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A gun ban won't put a total stop to gun violence, but it's a step in the right direction.
We have start somewhere, in time we'll be at the bottom pic.
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>>74985240

We've doubled the number of guns in the US in the last twenty years. The murder rate is less than half of what it was when we started. Violent crime is nearing record lows.

How about you fuck off instead?
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>>74985240

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Now please tell me that the # of guns has anything to do with the level of violence in a country?
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>>74985240
>in time we'll be at the bottom pic

And then we'll move right along to killing each other with knives and fists, because if someone is crazy enough to want to kill another human being, they'll find a way to do it no matter what is or isn't legal.
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>>74985240

rare flag and no it will never be that circumstance hence why you should aim for the middle.
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>>74985240
>>74985240
Your flag is rare but your argument is generic.
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Piss off
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>>74985240
More like the bottom pic being him with a knife and 7 deaths again. Killing is an attitude not an ability
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>>74985240
what is switzerland
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>>74985240
I had to do a presentation on your country when I was 13. Things I remember:
>One of the poorest countries in the world
>Capital is Bujumbura
>Have 1 university: University of Burundi
>Previous French colony, speak French
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How about we ban guns in the hands of niggers and spics? Considering that's who commits 99% of the gun related crimes.
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>implying this isn't the solution
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>>74985240
This stops nothing. What about the millions of guns already in circulation and not accounted for? Even if you implemented the most draconian, strictest gun grabs and gun laws that exist. Face it. People who commit these acts want and will commit these acts with or without a firearm. Hate to break it to you but if a criminal wants a firearm, he will obtain it one way or another to carry out his criminal act. You just make it annoying and inconvenient for him.
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>>74985898
Speaks French, huh?
Well that explains the surrender mentality.
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>>74985240
in time we will all be like burundi if this shit keeps up.
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>>74985240
Fuck off PK
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>>74985240
It is also more of a national mentality thing. Here, only people who are similar to burger gun nuts are PTSD suffering rural war vets who hord weapons in their attics.
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>>74985359
Let me guess.

It's # of niggers that determines violence.

Ban Assault Niggers.
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>>74985240
>A gun ban won't put a total stop to gun violence, but it's a step in the right direction.

>A cock ban won't put a total stop to rape violence, but it's a step in the right direction.

You logic seems flawless to me!
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>>74985240
Can you do another depiction that also includes the possibility knives? I know I'm asking a little much, the real world can be hard to illustrate without ignorance or bias.
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>>74985240

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>>74985240
>0 deaths
there's the problem
the criminal is still alive
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>>74986079
So basically we have to kill all ethnically alternative folk and people with mental health problems just so that we can be 'safe' without guns?
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>>74985240
Proxy or vacation?
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>get rid of guns, no more violence and killing!!
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>>74986388
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>>74985240
We all know the real problem
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>>74985240
dont worry you'll get your way. its already happening in California. Its going to be the only way it can possibly pulled off though and you might not like it. the bill passed but needs to be signed by the governor of California. If it does get signed it will make all rifles with removable magazines a felony to own. But there is no amnesty in the bill. What this means is it will turn hundreds of thousands of upstanding citizens into felons overnight with no way to avoid it if you bought the gun legally and registered it. there are hundreds of empty prisons that were built by Halliburton all over the state staffed and ready to go with no prisoners in them. they call them disaster centers to keep people from freaking out. This is the one right next to my house. its fully staffed. notice how the barbed wire faces inward? It looks like the conspiracy tards were right all along. theres a shitstorm a brewin' and Americans better pick a side.
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>>74987028
>vacation

Kek

I hear its real nice this time of year.
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>>74987160

kekus maximus
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>>74987160
heh, giggled
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>>74987227
Some people like to live dangerously.
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>>74985240
Really makes you think.
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>>74985240
The pic seems to be missing pannels where a bomb, or airplane, or knife, or car, or poison is used.
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>>74985926

This sir is fucking beautiful.

I freely give you 200 keks!
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>>74987160
SHEEEIIIT
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>>74987160
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>>74985926
This 2bh
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>>74985240
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT OP!

WE MUST PRAY TO OUR DARK LORD SATA-, ER, GOD! FOR "COMMON SENSE" TEEHEE LEGISLATION!
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>>74985240

>banning guns for the average citizen will CERTAINLY stop criminals from obtaining them

EVERY....FUCKING....TIME....
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>>74987160
10/10
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>>74985240
I've never even heard of your country
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>>74986999
You are plenty safe in America if you aren't around niggers.

The firearm freedom of 350 million people dwarfs the lives lost to "gun violence" because so many other things are just so much more deadly.
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>>74986999
No we have to lock them up in crazy houses you idiot
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>>74985240
RARE AS FUCK
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I fucking hate this picture

>person wearing a shirt that says CRAZY PERSON, designating them as not of sound mind, a danger to their fellow man yet they are out and about
>THE PROBLEM IS GUNS
>implying crazy people won't find other means to kill en masse (see terrorists)
>meanwhile normal people's greatest defense is taken away

Are regular people supposed to compete and go through the same crazy antics as the insane to defend themselves such as bombing?
Gun control is such a fucking joke.

>inb4 hurr dumb murican muh guns

Come and take it.
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>>74987160
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>>74985240
>We have start somewhere, in time we'll be at the bottom pic.
I know you guys need to believe in fairy tales in adult life to not go crazy in Burundi, but sorry mate, it will never happen.
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>>74985240

Oh hello there.

Please read this.

In 1971, Article 10 of the present Constitution was reformed[11] to limit the right to keep arms within the home only (in Spanish: ...derecho a poseer armas en su domicilio...) and reserved the right to bear arms outside the home only to those explicitly authorized by law (i.e. police, military, armed security officers). The following year, the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives came into force[12] and gave the federal government complete jurisdiction and control to the legal proliferation of firearms in the country; at the same time, heavily limiting and restricting the legal access to firearms by civilians.

>As a result of the changes to Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution and the enactment of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives, openly carrying a firearm or carrying a concealed weapon in public is virtually forbidden to private citizens, unless explicitly authorized by the Secretariat of National Defense (SEDENA). For purposes of personal protection, firearms are only permitted within the place of residence and of the type and caliber permitted by law.

Gun banning really damn works.

Yay,

Now we have nothing but our limp dicks to defend ourselves and the acrtel can pick us off like rats in a barrel.

If we had weapons like the USA has at least the bloodbath would be fair and square. And the filth would be bled out eventually.
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>>74985240

Damn, pic related is really pushing the shill outsourcing far away lately
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>removing an object magically stops violent impulses

wow I'd love to see the study confirming this
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>>74985240

But where's the profit in that?
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>>74985240
proxy
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>>74985240
>CRIMINALS OBEY THE LAW AND THEIR GUNS WILL DISAPPEAR.

What kind of bubble brained retard comes up with this? That cartoon so fucking stupid, it made me sick.

How does banning guns from law abiding citizens take guns away from criminals?
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>>74985240
Burundi?

Say hi to Tarzan for me.

Then kill yourself.
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>>74985351
>Violent crime is nearing record lows.

Which is to say that it's 80 times higher than the first world average. Well done, America.
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>>74985898
I was fucking a girl from Burundi in Edinburgh, pretty sure it was a Belgian colony
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Proxy King pls go
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>>74988104
>80 times
citation needed
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>>74986906
Indeed
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>>74985240
Two basic rights you gun control nuts are overlooking
1) Universal right of self defense
2) Right to own property
If either of these rights is infringed, I have full moral justification to retaliate with force. The government tends to take away these rights, I will respond with force.
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>>74986812
>logic

So you believe in decriminalizing all drugs, then, right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burundi#Civil_War_and_Genocide_against_Hutu

Sure.
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>>74985240
Actually, it's 130 deaths.
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>>74985240
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
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>>74988200
NOW THIS IS RARE
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>>74988042
This.

I want them to explain how criminals obey laws.
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>>74988248
Yes.
Let the idiots kill themselves.

Praise nature!
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>>74988104
We just want niggers to "win".
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>>74985240
>Burundi
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>>74985240
Something about a magic piece of paper or something
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>>74985240
>criminals will follow law and turn in their guns
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>>74987896
capped
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>>74985240
I'll take "The Black Market" for $400 Trebek
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>>74985240
right of bearing arms is to remain unfringed my friend
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>>74988422
>I can't understand it so it must be magical.

Wow I heard liberals weren't fans of logic.
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>>74988104
Its still low enough.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>74985240
>>74988200
Give me all your rare flags
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>>74986812
that analogy is fucking stupid. men are born with dicks. people aren't born with guns.
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>>74985240
Implying people wont just use knives and blunt weapons
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>>74988183

It's about 80 times the Australian rate and 50 times the UK rate (per 100,000 citizens). It's all in wiki under deaths by firearms by country.
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>>74986944
he isn't a criminal though.
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>>74985240
Good luck with that, tard.
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>>74988673
Yea but if it stops one rape it should be done right? :^)
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>>74987213
source:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB374

it reads like you just go register the gun within 90 days as an assault rifle. but there is already a law in place that makes owning an assault rifle a felony in california. the law doesnt allow for these guns to be "grandfatherd" in and there is no clause to exempt people from the felony, so there is effectively no possible way to comply with the law other than take the felony charge and have your weapons confiscated and take the jail time.
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>>74988719
if you would be a criminal with a gun you would be a criminal without one, too
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The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, it's as simple as that.

>But if guns are banned bad guys won't have them!
lol
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>>74985240
A firearm is fairly simple to construct and the plans to do so are readily available. If someone really wants to use a gun to kill someone, they will find a way.

Your opinion just makes you feel better. It's not an actual solution.
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>>74988905
not necessarily
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>>74985240
Fun fact. Banning guns won't do shit. If crazy people wants to kill people they will use other means like knives and such. What next? Banning all knives? Even plastic disposable ones you use on picnics? Also criminals will always have guns because they're criminals.
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>>74988432
>criminals will follow law and not murder
>criminals will follow the law and not rape
>criminals will follow the law and not steal

I like guns, but this is a fucking stupid argument which you are parroting. You very clearly lack the ability to engage a subject with even a modicum of critical thought.

You are a vapid dimwit to have heard this soundbyte and thought that it was worth regurgitating.
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>>74989009
>if you kill your enemies, they win
thanks for the input justin
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>>74988712
Canadistan doesn't have gang-banger infested ghettos and a super shitty black culture. If you get rid of black-on-black gun crime the US has gun violence equivalent to Lichtenstein or some stupidly low number.

It isn't the guns, idiot.
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>>74986720
Trying!
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>>74985240
That shooting in pic is in a Gun-Free zone, though
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Banning guns would actually help lower the # of deaths and attacks.

However:
Banning niggers and a small systematic neighbourhood genocides would do your country far better.

Send the army into your own country FFS
America, invade yourself
Clean yourself of the nigger scourge.
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>>74989075
what? i never said that nor do i agree with that.
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>>74989117
I thought those were supposed to vaporize all guns that come in?
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Well fuck, why don't we just make crimes illegal
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>>74985240

>Make law banning guns
> Criminals obviously follow laws
>Criminals give up their guns
>mfw you live in a fucking fairy tale land, faggot.
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>>74988760
>Introduced by Senators Steinberg, Hancock, and Yee
>Steinberg
Every fucking time. When will we get our heads out of our asses and make the golden state great again?
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>>74989280
>Not wanting them to be double illegal
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>>74989000
SO easy an Ausfag can do it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-05/tradie-charged-over-homemade-guns-for-gang/4111600
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>>74989037
Britain is in the process T&T, it's working out GREAT for them! Now they're seeing a decrease in knife violence but a surge in blunt force traumas.
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>>74989307
as soon as they start trucking hundreds of thousands of heads of familys into these detention centers. which they will be trying to do. I know nobody with a right mind will go along with this. and those jews will get hanged.
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>>74985926
I love how you changed his shirt for france althought the words are different its pretty much same meaning
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>>74985240
Yes yes yes, government tyranny doesn't exist.
Kys.

Also, thanks. That flag was missing in my collection!
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>>74986375
Well God forbid we inconvenience or annoy a murderous asshole.
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>>74985240
>>74988200

>Implying I don't already have these flags

Step it up senpai
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>>74986999
yes. crazy people will kill no matter what. like that black dude that decapitated one of your soldiers to make a point or something. also, fuck you.
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>>74985240
This doesn't fucking works. Criminals get weapons illegally.
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>>74985240
where the fuck are you even from and why are you expressing an opinion on the politics of a country you are not from?
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>>74988732
Well you have to ban all the bullets too
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>>74985240

Pic description:

- First scenario is what is happening todayin most countries of euro. Only crazy people carry weapons.

- Second scenario: USA, Norway, Switzerland...

- Third scenario: Wonderland. Only exists in your imagination.
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>>74988712
>only firearm homicide is violent crime


>America
>nignogs, cartels, free access to deadly weaponry
>3,8/100k homicide rate

>Cucknada
>no nignogs, no cartels, three times less guns with severe restrictions in mag size
>1,4/100k homicide rate
How does it feel to be savage?
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I've had a gun pulled on me one dark night on my way home, I've never felt so powerless in my entire life seeing as there was literally fuck all I could do. I've been heavily pro guns ever since.

Try and tell the average Brit that you think the Americans have got it right about guns and they'll look at you like you've grown another head.
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>>74989596
It wont. It just annoys law abiding citizens.
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>>74988248
>So you believe in decriminalizing all drugs, then, right?

At least most. (bath salts is kinda fucked)

We need to punish people when they commit violent crimes, not put them in club fed where they write books and play vidya all day.
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But what do you expect from fucking Burundi.

>pic related is op's gang
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>>74985240
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>>74985240
The problem isn't guns.

the problem is BETAS with guns.

Alphas+guns = FINE.
Betas+guns = KILLING SPREES

line up all the mass shooters and take a look at what you see.
ALL BETAS. Prove me wrong.

The way to stop mass shootings is clear. Find the fucking betas and root them out, force them to work, help them to get laid, force them on their meds or just throw them in jail.
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>>74985240
Exactly what is depicted on the first panel?
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>>74989966
>
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>>74990138
An indian god with many arms shooting people
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>>74988130
Turns out you're right. My limited knowledge of Burundi has been slightly improved.
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>>74990222
>no one checking Hutu magic.
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>>74985240
There's a gun for every man, woman, child and infant in the US. Banning guns won't make them all disappear.
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>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>74990092
well california is going to do the opposite and temove citizenship from all the law abiding alphas complete with lengthy sentences leaving the families to fend for themselves. see >>74988760
this bill and one other that facilitates it have passed the senat with flying colors. If brown decides to sign it this will actually happen. but good luck trying to put all those gun owners in jail for literally doing nothing wrong. It wont go over like they think it will. This will be the start of a cival war between regular people and the far left liberals. good thing libs dont believe in guns. this is going to be the quickest cival war in human history.
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>>74989099

That doesn't seem to be true. The difference between the rate of deaths by firearm per 100,000 by race is clear. State by state, black deaths almost always exceed whites and by a large amount (often more than double). See this: http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-death-rate-by-raceethnicity/

But even if the blacks all went back to Africa, gun deaths amongst whites (82% of which is suicide, btw) would still be many times higher than the first world average. So the safest state (Rhode Island) would still have a death rate some twenty times higher than Australia as a whole (based on wiki's numbers). As a white country, the US would exceed Australia's death rate by much more (albeit again, mostly by suicide).

The solution is reduced access to firearms (which would be easy if all the blacks left - it's the fear of black crime, I suspect, that largely drives gun sales) and increased access to mental health services to reduce suicidal thinking. More social safety nets in general would help a lot too; economic strife is a major factor in depression/suicide.
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>>74985240
Nah cause see the bottom pic would just be an acid throwing niggeroid or a knife wielding asian. Which is worse frankly.
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>>74987160
kek
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>>74990927
11% of those deaths of whites per year are actually killed by the police by the way.
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>>74985240
>crazy people use guns
Do they forget that it is primarily minorities that use guns? White people rarely hold them unless they're on the job or in Texas.
Otherwise gang violence is where gun violence comes from.
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>>74985240
>crazy person
>not Tyrone shooting other nigs in da hood
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>>74985240
"A step on the right direction."
So not even you believe in this.
We must get the message out that
virtue signalling is the opposite of virtue.
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>>74990927
Reduced access based on what grounds? Economic standing? Race? Political stance?
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>>74985240
switch the top and middle picture and remove the bottom, and you'd have a more accurate representation of what disarming law abiding citizens would look like
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>>74990811
has*
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>>74988104
Britain's is just as high or higher m8
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>>74990811
>cival war
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>>74988324
WAHHH IM A VICTIM
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>>74991425
Apparently on the grounds of being a citizen.
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>>74991665
you think Americans with any brains at all are going to let 100's of thousand of upstanding citizens get carted off to privately owned and staffed detention centers for 5+ years just for owning a certain type of weapon that is completely legal right now? you would be wrong, as unbelievable as it might sound most americans still believe in freedom.
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>>74985240
R A R E
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>>74986999
You can't see their guns in the last frame since it's concealed carry and they're law-abiding citizens.
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>>74989410
Funny you should say that.
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>>74985240
With gun control we will be top pic m8. Best we can do is. Second
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>>74991658
Britain's is much higher. Britain bought into the idea that a 350lb bodybuilder working on you with his "bare hands" does not count as violence. They have insane "unarmed" assault rates. The cops look the other way for nightly closing time bar fights. What crime we have is self-segregated in ghettoes, not widespread. You can go your whole life in the US without seeing violence -- and you are much more likely to live so long and so peacefully in a gun-rich, white neighborhood.
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>>74985240
>criminals follow gun laws
big daddy government cant save you from the hearts of evil men. be a man and defend yourself
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>>74985240
>but it's a step in the right direction.

how about we start by removing the real cause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIsc8ooXug
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>>74991425

You do it the same way it's done in the rest of the developed world. Other countries ban guns in just the same way that America bans RPGs. It's blanket. No one needs an RPG. And I know this is hard for an American to understand, but the view in the rest of the developed world is that no one needs a gun. So America already has blanket bans. You just need to apply the same ban to the next lowest tier of weaponry, small arms. I know that white American will be reluctant, given the fear of street crime. But give than 82% of all white firearm deaths are by suicide, it literally is in their own best interest to give their guns. By being armed, the average American will have a much higher chance if death than if he were not armed at all. Sounds paradoxical, but it's factually true.
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>>74985240
>implying gun crimes aren't committed with illegal guns in 99% of cases.
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>>74993204
>But give than 82% of all white firearm deaths are by suicide, it literally is in their own best interest to give their guns.

>banning gun stopps suicide
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>>74985240
>A gun ban won't put a total stop to gun violence
A gun ban won't put a total stop to gun violence
>A gun ban won't put a total stop to gun violence
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The bottom picture will never happen.

The only two outcomes are the top and middle.

These are the facts of life.
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>>74993204
except they opted to just take away citizenship of people that own rifles and handguns that have removable magazines which is every single gun owner. They dont even give you a choice to surrender all your weapons to avoid the felony. They arent giving anyone a choice. and it PASSED the state senate with flying colors. these are our representatives. If brown signs it your going to see some real shit. They think they have the populous placaded enough to just look the other way but its not going to happen like that.
see >>74988760
this isnt some conspiracy theory this is as real as a heart attack.
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>>74985240
bullshit imbecile, give them a knife in lowest pic
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>>74993127
Usa has a nigger problem not a gun problem
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>>74987160
Kek
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>>74985240
Rare?
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>>74985240
It's a lot easier to do go ahead and commit gun violence if you've got them lying around everywhere. A bit hard to argue against, but I understand since the US is flooded with them a ban won't get them far.
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>>74985926
Thank you, mon frère.
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>>74985240
What the fuck is a Burundi? Fuck outta here senpai
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>>74994216

A ban is impossible. Trying to enforce it will end in the result of so many military, police, and civilian lives lost... while blacks and hispanics will continue to get their stuff illegally.
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>>74990927
>State by state, black deaths almost always exceed whites and by a large amount (often more than double)
There are more states unaccounted for than there are states where blacks have double or higher gun death rates, and the amount of states that do have black gun death rates that high don't appear often (28% of the time)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18OTJrjK3vbou8g3SPRALglPhmSGXX66P9cdber8VBzE/edit?usp=sharing
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>>74985240

What makes gun violence so much worse than any other kind of violence?
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>>74985240
There are four scenarios
>armed crazy person, armed citizen
2 deaths
>armed crazy person, unarmed citizen
7 deaths
>unarmed crazy person, armed citizen
0 deaths
>unarmed crazy person, unarmed citizen
0 deaths

Arming citizens produces equal or better results than leaving them unarmed.
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>>74994216
>It's a lot easier to do go ahead and commit gun violence if you've got them lying around everywhere

kek no

we had just a shooting here last sunday.
He got 2 Zastava M92 (only used one), which are illegal here. He got them from the black market.
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>>74993204
The important difference being, I don't care if:
>By being armed, the average American will have a much higher chance if death than if he were not armed at all.
That's the price of freedom, I'll take that risk any day over being told another thing I cannot have. You go ahead and enjoy your lack of guns, just be sure to keep mindset that in your country.
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>>74985240
>the government has the power to make guns literally not exist

how fucking stupid are these people
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>>74990092
Wasnt columbine an alpha psychopath dominating a completely submissive beta into carrying out the killings?
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>>74987160
>tfw retard and drunk and dont get it.
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>>74994725
We had one 5 years ago, but does it happen often? Not really outside of the criminal world. Would be suprised if it was different in Austria.
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>>74994905
its just a little inside joke for americans dont worry about it.
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>>74994990
But what the joke?
I theorised its threefiddy or black lives matter but cant really put it in he context.
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>>74995146
Look up the three-fifths compromise
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>>74994905

sauce? I've never watched that time freeze vid.
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somebody plz add another panel that has armed soldiers and a police man gunning down unarmed civilians with a death toll in the 1000s
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So when we banned alcohol in the US there was no alcohol consumption at all right?
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>>74994933
>Not really outside of the criminal world

thats the fucking point... how much "gun violence" happens outside of the criminal world with legal guns?

When more guns are available will they be involved in it? Sure they will because they are tools like everything else, but that doesn't mean removing this tools will remove the crime.

Best example here is Austria compared to Switzerland.
The have lower homicide rate than we do, but twice as much guns as we do.
If we look at family internal homicide in Switzerland the majoirity is done with guns, here the majoirity is done with stabbing or blunt weapons, we still have more family internal homicide compared to Switzerland.

Guns are not the problem, people are.
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>>74995232
>three-fifths compromise
Thanks muricabro
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>>74988712
>deaths by firearms
why does only this count? are there no other ways to end a life in canada?

also why is not "murder" by firearm. are they seriously including suicide and justified self defense?
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>>74993204
incorrect. it is only illegal to buy and sell an RPG. the only way they were able to make it illegal is by distorting the commerce clause, not by altering the second amendment
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>>74996293
>are they seriously including suicide and justified self defense?

yes they do.
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>>74990927
>literally including gun suicides in an argument about gun violence

You do realize that people commit suicide in Australia right?
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>>74989072

>canadian who hired a fucking camp instructor as their PM is trying to tell other countries who's stupid
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>>74985240
doesnt this thread belong on
/pony/
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>>74988104
What is population ratios-

>Leaf for a flag

2/10
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>>74993204
>no one NEEDS
There's that word again... I can buy a tank if I want to. Do I -NEED- it? Not really; it'd be fun as fuck though. Also,
>taking away freedoms is in the best interest of people
Don't be a statist bootlick. Dangerous freedom is always preferential to safe slavery.
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>>74985926


There are always shootings in America and most of them aren't stopped by civilians defending themselves
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>implying gun bans actually work
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>>74985240
drugs are illegal but people find the way to get them
The ban doesn't solve the problem
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>>74997660
And that's why every responsible, able adult should practice their right to conceal carry.

Nothing can stop a nig from shooting you in the back of the hed randomly but I'll be damned if i won't have a chance if I see it coming.
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>>74985240
>can't even stop NK from getting nukes
>supposed to somehow stop literally everyone from getting things 9999x easier to make
good luck
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>>74997660
>They don't all defend themselves
>So none of them should be able to defend themselves
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>>74995855
>doesn't mean removing this tools will remove the crime
Never said or even implied that. And I even never said that we should ban them but it's pretty obvious for me that in most societies giving easy access to guns (which are effective murder machines in essence) will not somehow improve society and will be more likely to make it less. A gun makes crime so much easier,'

And Switzerland? Well it doesn't have the cultural issues we have here now has it? Of course having guns in a peaceful little town won't affect its crime rates much. But take a big city and a heavily populated country and I will start to get worried.
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>>74985240
People who want guns banned suffer from a severe lack of testosterone.
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>>74997660

No, the news just doesn't focus on them because it doesn't fit their government controlled narrative to control you and take away your rights.

>1. In Chicago earlier this year, an Uber driver with a concealed-carry permit “shot and >wounded a gunman [Everardo Custodio] who opened fire on a crowd of people.”

>2. In a Philadelphia barber shop earlier this year, Warren Edwards “opened fire on >customers and barbers” after an argument. Another man with a concealed-carry permit then >shot the shooter; of course it’s impossible to tell whether the shooter would have kept >killing if he hadn’t been stopped, but a police captain was quoted as saying that, “I guess >he [the man who shot the shooter] saved a lot of people in there.”

>3. In a hospital near Philadelphia, in 2014, Richard Plotts shot and killed the psychiatric >caseworker with whom he was meeting, and shot and wounded his psychiatrist, Lee >Silverman. Silverman shot back, and took down Plotts. While again it’s not certain whether >Plotts would have killed other people, Delaware County D.A. Jack Whelan stated that, “If >the doctor did not have a firearm, (and) the doctor did not utilize the firearm, he’d be dead >today, and I believe that other people in that facility would also be dead”; Yeadon Police >Chief Donald Molineux similar said that he “believe[d] the doctor saved lives.” Plotts was >
>still carrying 39 unspent rounds when he was arrested

Want more https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
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>>74997660
Because the majority of mass shootings take place in "Gun free zones". What a fucking surprise!
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>>74993204
>no one needs a gun.
So it will be easier for strong men to mug grannies if grannies don't have access to firepower.
Guns are the great equalizer.
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>>74985240
eat dicks anyone who trusts giving the american government ALL OUR GUNS is a fucking morons with nogger cock in the butt
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>>74999432
Kinda interesting that the Canadian of all people is advocating right by might, puts to rest the idea that they're all super nice and apologize about everything.
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This is the most favorable outcome. 0 deaths because the person is not human.
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>>74985240
Homicide does not correlate with gun ownership rates, guns per capita, or the strength of gun control laws. It has been demonstrated time and time again that gun control is predicated entirely on a fallacy and yet liberals STILL believe in it.
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>>74986999
Exactly.
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>>74989293
Why not just make everything legal then.
It doesn't matter right?
Moron.
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>>74985240
Problem: Illicit guns - you cannot ban those. Disarming law abiding legal firearm owner will simply leave the victims defenseless.
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>>74985240
RARE SHITPOST
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>>75000569
The point is that banning guns infringes on peoples' right to self defense.
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>>74985240
Just like banning drugs gets rid of pot and banning gay sex gets rid of gays, amirite?
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>>74985639
this
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>>75000569
What CAN a person do to defend themselves, their family, and their property?

Tell me, kike.
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>>75000788
Anything can be used for self defense, its a meme.
Makes about as much sense as going around raping someone and saying "It was self defense! He/she attacked me first!"
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>>75000997
I don't know, assault them with a wrench or any hard object?
Not my fault you niggers don't know how to attack people without firearms.
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>>74998492
Do you actually read what you write?

First you say more/easy access to guns make crimes much easier, than you say Switzerland has less problems because it doesn't have cultural/social issues.

Switzerland has a higher population density than austira. While I agree in extremely dense cities you have higher chances of more crimes density is not the main problem. You even said what the problem is yourself, its a culture/social problem.

Compare tokyo to NY, tokyo having higher population density as new york, yet the crime rate is only marginal higher than in Zürich.

In short its a nigger/spic problem in the US and will be a shitskin problem in europe soon.
Gun availability only plays a minor roll.
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>>75001079
If a bunch of violent robbers broke into your house, would you rather have a baseball bat or a glock? What do you think would be more effective? Imagine if you were a women or a small child.
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>>74985240

A ban on cars that go over 55 mph won't put a total stop to vehicular deaths, but it's a step in the right direction.
We have start somewhere, in time we'll be at the bottom pic.
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>Being so sheltered that you think hardware configurations can be completely unobtainable
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Just make crime illegal dipshits
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>>75001079
Oh you can defend yourself with what a kitchen knife against 4 attackers who invade your home? Happened to my neighbor, he almost died. Was in hospital for weeks. If his daughter would have been there - god knows what they would have done to her.

Don't be so fucking ignorant Estonia, I expect more of you.
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>>74988712

>Death by firearms

>>74985351 references VIOLENT CRIME.

You aren't even smart enough to differentiate between to very different stats.

Fuck off, homo.
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>>75001196
How many swings or cuts does the nigger get before you can kill them?
Is there a duty to retreat or can you stand your ground?
If the nigger runs away, can you still kill them?

The totalitarian gun confiscating kikes don't publicly answer this part of is, because they want counties and homes torn apart with racial strife. This is the gun control kikes endgame.
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>>75001234
A knife, probably.
Also how many women actually use guns?
They'll just hide and call the police.
And what kind of moron lets a small child use a gun? That's assuming he even has enough strength to pull the trigger.
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>>74998621
Kek there goes the Do No Harm oath.
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>>75001536
>call the police
Pic related.

>A knife, probably.
See >>75001512
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>>75001512
>Letting the nigger cut you first
>Not knocking them out cold
>Not running after them
Not my fault you're just a weak limp-wristed beta.
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>>75001671
Nice reading comprehension.
I said that's what most (((women))) do.
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>>75001536
>just hide and call the police when someone tries to take your property
>don't defend yourself
Is this the average mentality of a European nowadays? I thought you people supported women's rights? I know liberals like to ignore biology, but women actually are a lot weaker than men and can be easily overpowered. However a gun puts them on an equal footing with any potential aggressor. Why don't liberals champion gun ownership among women so they can be independent and strong?
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>>74985240
>in time
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>>75001706
So it's legal to go on the offense and kill niggers, but we just can't do it with evil scary guns?
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>>75001706
>nigger doesnt have a knife
>nigger has a gun
>nigger shoots your fedorable ass and you die
ding dong bannu.
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>>74987160
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>>75001536
Actually children are allowed to shoot at the shootin range under supervision of their firearm license owning parents and the sr-supervisor.

Outside the shooting range it is against the law. It nearly never happens in Europe.
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>>75001847
Great, so MOST women call the police, who do not have to answer the call.
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>>75001883
>that kid with no trigger discipline
rrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>75001671
I feel this is taken out of context. I'm pretty sure this is to defend against getting sued for not putting yourself in an unreasonably dangerous situation to save another person. can you put this into context?
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>>75001865
>just hide and call the police when someone tries to take your property
>don't defend yourself
>Is this the average mentality of a European nowadays?

It's already much worse. Remember the police will arrest YOU for trying to keep kike-imported niggers from raping your kids.

Really makes ya think.... :^)
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>>74985240
im going to grab a branch off the local tree before i enter something and poke you with it, ban that
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>>74989547
Not adding Merkel and Löfven
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>>75001883
I didn't say anything about killing.
Just catch the fucker and give it a few whacks so he's barely awake and wait for the cops.
Plus there wouldn't be another BLM chimpout, unless thats what you want.

>>75001865
Because most women don't want guns.

>>75001998
If you're there you might as well already hit/stab him with something else, why would you need a gun?
And face it, majority of women will not use guns. Period.
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>>75002140
If you are killed by niggers after calling 911, the dispatcher, authorities, etc have a precedent now to escape liability from a wrongful death lawsuit.

In general, enforcers of laws may selectively enforce them, and this is a huge problem with the "if you have nothing to hide mentality". It's also why the mexican border is a mess.

It's all selective law enforcement, selective responses, and selective prosecutions, all will precedent in the Supreme Court.

Remember, YOU are ultimately responsible for your own safety and well being.
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>>75001706
>if you don't fight armed criminals unarmed you are a beta

Not everyone has fedora anime bullet stopping skills like you
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>>75002438
>Because most women don't want guns.
Most women don't want to be in STEM either but you guys keep shoving that down everyone's throats. How about some consistency?
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>>74985240
I don't care what anybody says PK flags are legit.
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>>75002438
What do you feel when you look at that picture?
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>>75002523
>most women don't want to be in STEM either but you guys keep shoving that down everyone's throats.

I don't fucking care what womyn want to learn, the fuck are spewing?

>>75002489
Odds are if a criminal has a gun he's going to shoot you first anyway. You probably wouldn't have enough time to grab your gun from you box anyway. Contrary to movies, criminals don't enter the house with guns at night to rob people.
Not everyone has Arnold level shooting and reaction skills.
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>>75003127
I feel like you're trying way too hard.
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>>74985240

>guns are the only thing that can kill people

Silly Burundi poster.
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>>74986999
No you treat them roach. The fucker will use tools to kill people until he gets effective treatment, whatever that may be
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>>75003129
Nope. That argument was disproved uncountable times. Look at the selfdefence statistics.

Listen man, when your life (or your loved ones lives) is at risk, you want the best tool to protect it. That is a firearms in this era. Some centuries ago is was swords maces axes and crossbows. Technology changed.
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