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Refute this.
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>>74981372
The bartender would lose his business the very next day or even get killed by husband, father, son, brother of some of them
He would not do that out of self of self-interest.

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>>74981372
You're right. Regulations on alcohol were created immediately after fermentation and persisted until the present, and totally weren't invented in the last century or two.

Back in the day, people were dropping like flies because all the booze was poison. When Jesus turned water into wine, there was a certified Roman FDA member there to certify it was in fact safe to drink. They left logistical stuff like that out of the Bible.
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why would a business kill their customers?
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>>74981372
The bartender then has no business because no one trusts him.
No money, no food.
He dies.

also

"If mankind were thoroughly evil, no law would suffice. If mankind were perfect, no law would be necessary."
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>>74981372
This gets reported by independent journalists. People read about it and stop going to the bar. The bar closes
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>>74981372

>because serving poison is unregulated
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>>74981372
Why would he do that to himself and his business?
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>>74981544
fpbp and checked
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>>74981617
tbqh I would totally go to a bar that poisons libertarians.
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>>74981372
>Refute this
What, that nothing of value was lost? I can't.
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>>74981599
>why would a business kill their customers?

Because strawmen are important to people with no real arguments.
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>>74981544

But that's wrong. People sold tainted shit all the time. That's why we have regulations now.
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>>74981372
>shitting on ayn rand
Damn, bitch. The fuck did she do to you? She wrote a mediocre book.
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>>74981372
Deregulation does not make it legal to violate a contract. The bar would be legally liable for fraudulently selling a product sold as safe for consumption.
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>>74981372
>regulation is present in the bar to stop the bartender from serving tainted beer

as brilliant as gun control
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>>74981788
Holy shit this is the third time in like 14 hours that I've gotten 88. Is Kek speaking to me?

I wish I'd been capping these.
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>>74981372
alcohol inherently filters the water when you add a positively charged reagent after fermentation, which is why it was such a valuable source of non-lethal calories
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>>74981372
>Refute this

This same scenario could play out under total regulation as well. All it takes is one murderous bartender.
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>>74981372
>worrying about regulations when you're serving beer that kills people.
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>>74981372
> not joining up with the bartender in an exclusive profit sharing partnership to serve poison selectively only to road builders or road enthusiasts
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>>74981372
Obama, Clinton, and Bernie walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because he has no moral compass. They die.

Refute this.
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>>74981567

>Back in the day, people were dropping like flies because all the booze was poison

Not like flies maybe but people did sometimes die from bad products before regulations
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>>74981372
Libertarians are not anarchists. Refute this.
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>>74981372

Paul Ryan is a goverment worshipping spineless faggot. He probably ordered juice and was fine
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Ironic, given that the most deaths from bad alcohol happened during prohibition, when the government tainted it on purpose.
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>>74981372
Not an argument
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>>74981372
Other people don't buy tainted shit, they live
the world mourns some great people. and then keeps moving
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And then his business died and he starved to death.
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wow...really makes you think...
can libertarians recover?
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>>74981372
WRONG!

All 4 have been dead for a long time because someone organized a deathsquad to kill all who stand agains them to rule the land.
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Let's assume the alcohol was tainted at the company of those who produced the alcohol for sale to the bartender. How does this change?
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>>74981890
>People sold tainted shit all the time.
They still do. It's just now we have an expensive (and expansive) bureaucracy devoted to doing what the free market does automatically.
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>>74981890
>People sold tainted shit all the time.
Look at this fact checked statement, people.

>That's why we have regulations now.
So true. The government would never act out of self interest and try to make money through unnecessary regulation.
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>>74981372

damn...really makes u think...
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>>74981372
Why would a bar kill patrons? It's in the bars interest to keep them alive.
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>>74981372
OP walks into a bar. The bartender serves him tainted alcohol because Prohibition has caused the government to mix in wood alcohol with ethanol in order to keep people from drinking it, killing OP and about 10,000 others.
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2012 Czech Republic methanol poisonings
The 2012 Czech Republic methanol poisonings occurred in September 2012 in the Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia.[1] In the course of several days, 38 people in the Czech Republic[2] and 4 people in Poland died as a result of methanol poisoning and many others were taken to hospital.[3][4] The poisonings continued for several years after the main wave, as of April 2014, there were 51 dead and many others suffered permanent health damage.[5]
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DUH FREE MURKET WILL FIX IT
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>>74981372
NOT AN ARGUMENT
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>>74981890
Yes, and the retarded people who bought questionable products from questionable people would die.

I don't see any problem with this whatsoever.

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of their folly is to fill the world with fools."
-Herbert Spencer
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>>74981372
There will be regulations in an anarchist society, anarchy is no rulers not no rules


Its just a strawman
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>>74982858
PRAGUE — The Czech Republic has banned the sale of liquor containing 20 percent or higher alcohol content after at least 20 people were killed and dozens of others were seriously injured from consuming methanol-tainted spirits.

The poisonings have raised questions about the effectiveness of European Union and Czech safeguards against bootleg alcohol, which has plagued the Czech market for decades. The country has the world’s second-largest rate of hard alcohol consumption, after Moldova, according to the World Health Organization.

The poisonings, which began about two weeks ago, have also brought into focus the penchant of the country’s less well off for hard alcohol on the lowest rung of the market.

According to Czech News Agency, Vladimr Lipina, a 51-year-old car Czech factory worker from the industrial town of Havirov and one of those affected, bought a bottle of rum from a street kiosk on his way to a soccer game two weeks ago. He said he had a few shots but thought that the drink tasted strange. Four days after his pregame celebration, Mr. Lipina became blind. “I woke up with a terrible headache and stomachache, but I thought I would just get over it,” Mr. Lipina was quoted as saying. Doctors are not optimistic he will ever see again.
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>>74982807
In case you're wondering:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html
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>>74983102
Who will enforce the rules?
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>>74981372
>Tainted alcohol

Alcohol was one of the first ways to actually make drinking water safe. In Rome a cup of wine was safer than a cup of water because the alcohol content made a hostile environment for microbes. At the time they didn't really grasp the reason why people who drank alcohol weren't getting dysentery and other shitty diseases, they just assumed wine was blessed (thanks Bacchus)

And then this slut comes along with the classic "if it weren't for government regulations everyone would die! Government regulations somehow work but contract enforcement and self interest do not!"

Remember kids, we need to put price ceilings on food, because companies could charge 80 bucks for a gallon of milk and 100 for a loaf of bread because people need to buy food to live! Watch out!
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>>74981599
Why do drug dealers often kill their customers with bad product?
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>>74981890

"Hey I heard that bar serves tainted stuff, let's not go there"

"No there's no regulations that means that we HAVE to drink at that bar no matter what"
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>>74983102
>anarchist society
Anarchy's a transitional state between governments. Humans instinctively organize.
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OP walks into a wal mart, he buys 100 twinkies and soda.

He dies at age 40 from obesity related illnesses. He is just another statistic, there are millions like him.

He trusted the FDA and not his own judgment
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>>74981372
No. Its a stupid joke, even tho i get its point
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>>74983108
>drinking alcohol
>complaining of the consequences

wew lads
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>>74983260
Because drugs are illegal so only shitty people become drug dealers


Also,

>implying FDA approved drugs dont kill thousands every month
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>>74983260
That is a myth.
99.9% of people who die from drugs, typically relapse then take their 'regular' dose, with 0 tolerance then die.

The other .01% of the time, it is because the product is actually HIGHER QUALITY. And once again the user goes to take their 'regular' dose and then die.

I've been an EMT in a city with a heroin epidemic for 2 years.
Never heard a story about 'bad' product.
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Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan walk into a RupAyNuaPRaulYnPauLnUNAnDPLryUAPllR
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>>74981372
Ayn Rand, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan all walk into a bar.

It knocks them unconscious.

>refute THAT
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>>74983260
They don't actually, because they too would lose the fuck outta their clientele.

If anyone dies from drugs, it's because they were marked to die, they were too stupid and OD'd, or there was some kind of accident.

Dealers selling laced shit to their average consumer is a myth for exactly the same reason - killing clients ain't conducive to business. Unless they snitch.
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>>74983311
>implying organization requires the initiation of force
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>>74983449
calm down friend
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>>74981544
fbpb, also czech'd
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Watch Donald J. Trump destroy degenerate Current Year Icon John Oliver right here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9EjEQnI5w
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>>74981372

What's to stop someone from doing that right now? You think there are regulations that tests alcohol? Fucking retard.
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>>74983586
Security dilemma, my dear faggot. All it takes is for one chucklefuck to realize "hey, I can hit people with this huge stick to get what I want!" and its over.
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>>74983187
When 6 year olds want to play a game and somebody cheats what do they do?

They ostracize.


Adults apparently need an extensive theft supported system to punish rulebreakers and them release them without fixing them
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>>74982194
>>74982807
Came here to post this.
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>>74981372
>Ryan
>Rand
>Rand
>Paul
>Paul
>Ryan

Are libercucks only given 3 options for their names during birth?
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>>74981544
Czechmate.
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Regulations can't even stop grocery stores and restaurants from serving ecoli, salmonella and other food poisoning incidents that occur in the hundreds of thousands each year.

>muh regulations will keep me safe
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>>74983747
No. They would be shot.
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>>74983910
>CUCX

WITNESSED
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>>74982101
Before regulations or before capitalism made proper alcohol cheap as shit?

If they were drinking redneck moonshine was because they were poor and couldn't afford imported whisky from Scotland, not because there weren't regulations. Nowadays anybody can afford proper alcohol with firm reputation, specially if government didn't tax it to hell.
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>>74981372
What happens when Ryan Ayn walks into a bar
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>>74981890
but they still do, and people still die, except now they don't take any caution because they're promised by The Government that they're safe.
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>>74981372
>people are so coddled by government regulation that they have no idea how to function on their own anymore
See the current welfare state.
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>>74981916
Only 300 posts away from meaningful 88's.
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>tfw you realize government is more concerned about the TAX on said booze, and is willing to kill you for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
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>>74981544
When people did this shit back in the day they disappeared within a couple of days and setup shop in some other area.

Good luck finding them after that.
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>>74981372
>muh no regulations meme
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>HURRR DURRR LIBERTARIANISM AND ANARCHY ARE THE SAME THING HURRR FUCKIN DURRR PLEASE SHOOT ME IN THE FACE
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>>74981890
>People sold tainted shit all the time.

The US Government intentionally tainted alcohol in the 1920s.
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>>74984189
Guys, Poland got too drunk and fell over.
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>>74981372
Why is Paul Ryan hanging with Ayn Rand and Rand Paul? or is she just picking people that have first and last names that match
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>>74981912
Yes, MORE GUN CONTROL PLEASE!!!!
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>>74981372
>c
You know as much about libertarians as you do about Socialists.

If you don't yet understand...You're a retard
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>>74981372

>Bars that knowingly gain a reputation of serving tainted alcohol stay in business
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>>74981890
Like the FDA gives a flying FUCK about you, your family, or your friends. You have no recourse if someone dies due to tainted product. You rely on an agency to investigate and get shit right, and then the corporation responsible pays out, but not the people responsible. If you kill the person behind it, you will face greater punishment than they did.

Authority keeps order among the stupid, but the intelligent feel trapped within the confines of a system geared towards the lowest common denominator.
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Won't happen, since:
1. The bar would be owned by the Mega-Corporation, the merger of all world corporations since the abolishment of anti-trust laws
2. Late night alcohol drinking is illegal by the decree of Mega-Corporation CEO, since it makes workers less productive the next day

>>74981544
Not gonna happen either.

Mega-Corp employees (and all employees are Mega-Corp employees) are protected by the private army of Mega-Corp, and consumers are regularly fined by Mega-Corp "persuasion corps" if they don't consume enough Mega-Corp products (which are all products).
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The last time people were dying from bad alcohol was when government regulation was the heaviest; when alcohol was fully illegal.

Poisoning your customers is not a smart business move, and even if you're careless enough to do it, it would still be illegal in a libertarian society.
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>>74985253
It doesn't help that any three Libertarians will give you different opinions on anything but "Don't Tax Me Bro!"
Makes em out to be dubious tax dodgers like Scientologists and Mormonies.
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>>74985393
no regulations
the bartender might accidentally bought counterfiet products and served the patron those.
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>>74981372

Answer: Relatives of all 3 go to the bar and lynch everyone involved in the poisoning. If it was not a legitimate poisoning, no one is going to buy that guys shitty bootleg liquor again, and "tainted alcohol" is about the most retarded example possible.

People don't make money by putting out shitty products that no one will buy or ones that harm people. It already happens today, and when it does people speak with their wallets.

While they could burn it to the ground, they decide instead to rebrand it as a bar that serves decent alcohol purchased from reliable vendors who have been making quality alcohol for hundreds of years.

Everyone gets drunk and enjoys themselves, except teens who can't handle their liquor, because the bar can kick anyone out at any time because there are no regulations.

They also get to use their bar as a public house and a casino, because there are no regulations.
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>>74981372
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>>74981372
everyone in the bar who liked those people kill the bartender because in a lawless system vigilante justice is law. that took three seconds of thought
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>Open a bar
>Poison your customers
>???
>PROFIT
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>>74986075
>If it was not a legitimate poisoning
Subtle/10
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>>74981372
>bartender kills his own customers
Sounds like a shitty business idea to me.
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Dear God,
Hi, its me, Anon. Please bless Mommy and Daddy and Skip and Jan. And Spot, too!

And please tell me that the fucking morons on this board aren't so stupid they dont realize that the original joke was about government interference in business. Thank you.

>Amen
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>>74981544
Nothing would happen because the bar owner donates to Hillery and is "protected" from any harassment.
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