Why does /pol/ vote against its own economic interests ?
>>74978192
> /pol/ is one person and that person is my strawman
FTFY, OP.
>leftycartoons.com
Kill yourself
>mass immigration is in your economic interest
>cheap credit is in your economic interest
>outsourcing is in your economic interest
>TPP is in your economic interest
Democrats "are" the corporate establishment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0TEY1QVKbo
kill yourself kike bastard
this is the cartoonist btw
>give free things to minorities and women
how's that my interests
>>74978192
>implying the American industry didn't lose tons of jobs to third world countries because those countries don't have a ton of regulations
>>74979173
Move to China and see how awesome it is, retard
>>74979316
Holy shit, you're retarded and should learn how to read.
I'm saying the comic is wrong, because the American industry did indeed die and mostly moved overseas. It's not corporate whining.
>>74979417
Industry died because we got rid of protectionism
When we first built this country tariffs were 40% to ensure we had a trade balance
now we have a trade deficit because of idiots like you who think it has anything to do with "regulation." Guess what, you can never have less regulation than China they are willing to make their products out of lead and serve you human waste products.
Le bump
Dis gonna b good
>>74978192
But industry DID die in America.
We're all service now.
>>74979417
oh and they use slave like labor
have fun competing with slaves
also
>regulations are bad goy trust us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcpjOIH7bG4
>>74980418
This
> the free markets regulate themselves
Top chuckle
>>74978192
>give blacks an entire dollar
and here lies the saddest joke of all, unlike modern wage slaves negroids had all their basic needs paid for! Housing, food, water etc all paid for by the plantation owner. All they had to do was go out and grab some cotton or whatnot. A modern slave has to slave away for everything! Good luck getting someone to give you free housing, food, water etc!
>>74980729
I wonder who could be behind removing health and safety regulations.....
>>74980935
>that picture
>an argument
>smugmolyneux.png
>>74980925
Nice b8 m8
>>74980418
Except regulations are used by both kikes and people who think they are doing good with them.
Look at the American Medical Association, they have a strangle hold over the medical industry and are the cause of high pricing in health care.
Doctors and physicians have a hard time getting licenses and setting up businesses because of the regulations intended to "help" us. There are still shitty doctors and there always will be but by giving people more options people will have a better quality of care and be able to afford them.
>>74981072
"not an argument" is not an argument
>>74981628
>Except regulations are used by both kikes
For competitive regulation not health and safety regulation
Are you too dumb to separate the two?
>health and safety regulation
Stops China from serving you lead and human feces
>competition regulation
exists to stop anyone from competing with the establishment
It's two completely different things.
>>74978593
>vid
theres no hope for change, is there
>>74980258
Seriously, does anyone with a US flag work in a factory? Not a warehouse, not a repair shop, but an actual factory where thousands of cheap consumer goods are created every day?
I used to work at one, a food packing plant (hey, making thousands of gallons of mayonnaise and filling squeeze bottles with it is still manufacturing, sort of). It shut down and moved to Mexico in 1998, and the factory is just a big storehouse now.
Even the local poultry processing plant moved all their operations out of town. Are there any actual factories still operating in the USA?
>>74982553
why would they use expensive white labor when they can use cheap spic/chink labor?
>>74982pu
>>74982553
Pulp and paper are still strong industries within the US.
>>74982989
Make america great again.
>>74978192
>1842
Legality has never been a issue with strikes because all that is is people threatening to quit, only in a feudal or socialist country is quitting your job against the law.
>1887
Why is he complaining about a democratic argument? Isn't the artist a democrat?
>1912
What are anti-sweatshop laws?
Is he talking about OSHA?
>1915
Unions were always legal in america just not always a popular idea, you can still fire people for any reason
>1924
What is wrong with child labor?
Kids will be made to work by their parents anyway all banning child labor does is prevent them from gaining a profit or being able to list that experience in a resume.
>1938
Plenty of people work in excess of forty hours, it is cheaper for employers to hire more workers part time than a few employees for full time
>1964
Again that was democrats trying to pay women and blacks less, why is this democrat complaining about democrats?
>1970
OSHA? safety laws protect businesses from legal action which was always a possibility.
>Now
What is this in reference to? Fight for $15?
why should a part time burger flipper be paid more than a EMT?
>>74978192
Oh look, another revisionist history cartoon.
>>74981910
>"not an argument" is not an argument
Nor is it meant to be.
In these situations, you are the one making the claim, that ”[thing] is bad". Therefore the burden of proof is on you.
If you can provide no arguments to support your claim, then I don't need to argue. All I have to say is "you haven't given any arguments to prove your claim", and refute everything you claim, unless you provide arguments.
>>74982553
I work in a paper mill.
>>74982946
If they would have to pay import tariff of any signifigance then they would use expensive white labor.
>>74978192
Well certain laws and regulations do in fact harm economy.
Germany has a very strict job protection and it only leads from one problem into another.
Since companies weren't able to just fire people when they didn't need them companies were much more reluctant to hire someone in the first place. A side effect was that they started leasing workers through proxy companies, that would hire them for a smaller wage and keep the difference in pay.
Now people work in the same place, but just with lower pay.
So governments passed a law that said after 6 months they need the leasing company needs to hire the person.
Then leasing companies just switched the worker after 6 months.
Now government reduced that timeframe to 3 months.
But leasing companies still keep doing the same, just now they don't even care to educate the workers properly for a particular job.
And no party dares to just remove job protection again, which was the original cause for all of this bullshit.
>>74983649
"Jews are subversive" is an a priori truth at this point
>>74982553
That's what trump is rambling about mate
>>74984061
>only leads from one problem into another.
>huge trade surplus
>huge Manufacturing output
you will complain about anything
>>74978192
>Why does /pol/ vote against its own economic interests ?
A combination of Stockholm Syndrome and wanton stupidity.
Mostly the latter.
>>74982553
I worked in a gun factory for many years. We made over 2 million guns a year. What is your point?
>>74983961
this, import tariffs are what this nation needs.
>b-but go-er guys cheap iphones.
>>74984327
>implying it does
>Hillary would be better than Trump I swear
>>74984719
>>Hillary would be better than Trump I swear
The Strawman cometh...
>>74982553
I worked in an aluminum plant for 6 years before anti coal bills made it too costly to run
>>74984875
If you are pro Democrat you are pro NAFTA and TPP
if you are pro NAFTA and TPP you are pro outsourcing, mass immigration, and oligarchy
if you are pro outsourcing, mass immigration, and oligarchy you aren't very well voting in your economic interest are you?
>>74982553
the country's most popular tv show (simpsons) features a man who works at a factory-like job
>>74984267
And this is due to job protection?
We are exporting more than we import due to Euro, which is 20% undervalued compared to what we would have if we
This means we are exporting more products and services than we import, and we get currency. The other European countries are exporting more money than they import, this is not sustainable. Since we now vouch for other Europeans countries debts this will eventually come back to us, so we are working for free to a large extend.
>>74985133
Simpsons is a relic of the late 80s-early 90s
>>74985056
>If you are pro Democrat you are pro NAFTA and TPP
The Strawman intensifies...
>>74978593
Chris Edges is a leftist
You're confusing the Democrat/Republican dichotomy as in left/right when they just are different sides of the same coin
>>74978192
Because I reject materialism, globalism and growth economy. I'd rather have system that's actually sustainable both economically and environmentally. If it means that I'll have to give up on some of the luxuries we currently have then so be it.
>>74985133
Uh who exactly?
Homer works in a Nuclear Power Plant where all he does is sit in a chair all day and press buttons before going off to start the plot of the show
>>74985309
You realize that having a low Euro is protectionism by other means right?
Germans can have high wages AND export a ton to the EURO because the other idiot countries adopted the same currency as you.
>>74985381
But he's not pro oligarchy/wall street which Obama is
>>74978192
I vote for my cultural interests
>>74985401
>globalism
what is globalization?
I do not vote in self interest because I am not a selfish prick but a person trying to pursue virtue.
>>74985581
Voting for you cultural interests are in your economic interests
unless you think Mexicans pushing down wages is good for the economy.
>>74984875
>>74985327
>just vote for some obscure party that has 0 chance of ever winning anything
Yeah, that's in our interests, faggot pls, you were all about talking when it was to make assumptions about /pol/'s ideas and insult them.
But suddenly when it comes to actually coming forth about what you'd do suddenly silence.
>>74985701
wages are mostly pushed down because workers can't bargain with their bosses since they are not organized in unions
>>74985701
Your problem is with Neoliberalism. You simply haven't worked this out yet...
The reason for this is: in the United State no one is allowed to criticise "Capitalism" (in any of its forms).
>>74978192
I don't. I vote against taking MY money, and giving it to someone else that's too fucking lazy to work.
Literally every credible economist and CEO has already said raising the minimum wage would, at BEST, stifle job growth and prevent entry level workers from getting into the workforce.
At worst, it'll cause unemployment for a lot of people.
I vote against:
Taking my legally earned money
Giving my money to other people against my will
Mass immigration of foreign cultures
Refusal to acclimate immigrants
"Pressing One" for Spanish when I call a government number
Passing absurd regulations that serve no purpose than to put one form of business under
Basically, I vote against liberals and neocons whenever the opportunity arises.
>>74978192
Why do Marxists shitpost on /pol/ thinking that no one will recognize their shitty political philosophy?
>>74985799
Check the flag, retard.
>>74985906
You retard, we have a full blown Socialist running for office. The entirety of the democratic party despises capitalism.
>>74978192
>massive outsourcing to China and various other countries
>Lack of employment in numerous parts of the country
>Businesses "forced" to hire more women and minorities over hard working white men
>Labor unions protect even the shittiest of workers. Businesses have a harder time weeding them out and bringing more profitable and responsible workers in
No thanks
>>74985801
>they are not organized in unions
That's why unions were always against mexican intellectuals invading the country and driving down wages
>>74985906
I know what neoliberalism is
It the economic policies pushed by globalists to destroy nationalism and hand all power to jewish oligarchs and multi national corporations.
But you're so delusional and obsessed with muh identity politics that you think mass immigration and destroying white nations is actually good.
>>74985972
Nigger I know you're a Brit.
Doesn't mean you don't have an opinion on foreign nations.
I have opinions on yours, and if I were to guess you're a cucked labour voter.
>>74986225
>bringing more profitable and responsible workers in
You mean "cheaper and lower paid Mexicans"
>>74978192
The interest of the middle class is not socialism.
>>74978192
thre's a reason growth was tremendous back then and we can barely stave away recessions right now
would you rather feed stinking negroes or build a space elevator? lmao
>>74986086
>You retard, we have a full blown Socialist running for office.
Er... Bernie hasn't recieved the nomination.
> The entirety of the democratic party despises capitalism.
The Democratic Party is Neoliberal, same as Repbublicans. This is why Bernie Sanders is such a threat to the democrat and republican establishment.
Trump is a Neoliberal. Same as the establishment.
>>74986261
>It the economic policies pushed by globalists to destroy nationalism and hand all power to jewish oligarchs and multi national corporations.
Well done.
>But you're so delusional and obsessed with muh identity politics that you think mass immigration and destroying white nations is actually good.
Er... wat?
Is that supposed to be ron paul?
>>74986392
We need to feed the niggers, so that they can make more niggers.
They'll become great scientists n sheeit this time we swear.
We just need to give them mo money fo dem programs.
>>74986603
>Er... wat?
the average leftist talking point is that we love the middle class but mass immigration pushing down their wages, outsourcing, and increasing housing costs is objectively good because "muh diversity"
>>74986345
It's been an more of an issue with more professional jobs I've seen. My father works at a university. They hire shit faculty and once they stay there long enough, they can't be laid off as easy, and eat the hell out of the dept.'s budget.
Good point tho, businesses know they can pay Mexicans shit and get something out of them, it just depends if you work blue or white collar
>>74978593
He looks like a Dan Schneider happy merchant caricature.
>>74987014
well lib art majors are useless in general
They shouldn't even be paid imo
>>74982553
I worked in an automotive factory from 2004 to 2015. Made 55K a year to run a stamping press. The plant shut down and shipped to Mexico last year. Industry is dying in the rust belt.
>>74986513
Even this Britbong Knows trump is full of shit
>>74983716
Yeah, that counts. We'll still be able to write everything down.
>>74984353
Awesome. Never been so proud, etc.
Worries over, thanks /pol/
>>74978192
Industry always lobbies and politician shouldn´t care about it. Too bad they do.
>>74987490
>Trump is a neoliberal
KEK
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https://newrepublic.com/article/133431/donald-trump-right-deficits-dont-matter
Trump is a nationalist
>>74987570
My electrical engineering and mechanical engineering degrees won't ever go out of use. No worries.
>>74987249
Pretty much. They always find ways taking most of the advising and organization jobs. There's one woman in his offices that has been there about 10 years. She has a shitty English degree.
He has a degree in accounting and finance and has only been there 3 years. He only makes $1k less than she does a year. In the end, their shit degrees don't land them very far
>>74978192
The this entire cartoon seems to forget that different time periods and different locations have a lot more factors to be considered than just what their liberal arts Professor taught them
>>74978314
>posts another strawman pic
Reminder that global cooling was never a 70s belief, no matter how many non-scientific magazine covers you post.
>>74985570
>But he's not pro oligarchy/wall street which Obama is
Which don't really contradict what the Poortugese guy said.
>>74978192
Does anyone even think the job situation in the West is even good in this day and age? There are no jobs.
>>74978192
This image of full of strawmen. It is meaningless.
>>74978192
>"I do things to help others, not because they're necessarily in my best interest!"
>"Why is /pol/ so stupid that they do things not in their best interests?"
>>74982553
>>74982553
The problem isn't just industry moving, its that the labor plants that do stay, for the short while they last, pay piss-poor wages with huge turnover rates and no job security. The very act of allowing so many to leave manages to hurt the ones that stay.
You can do the same thing with a lot of shit OP.
Remember how the global warming alarmist warned us we'd all be dead by now?
Even funnier, remember when the liberals went nuts over the sequester?
And claimed it would destroy our economy like 1936?
And then our economy was not only fine, but actually became even fucking better somehow?
There is only one truth to economics.
Corporatism works. Corporate welfare works.
We have such a low unemployment and record high stock equity thanks to the bailouts and TARP.
>>74982553
I used to until I got a better job.
I worked in a auto parts factory that specialized in making formed fiberglass hoses for GM.
This is in Ohio
>>74984327
Fabian Socialist/Communist GTFO
Not Horsey, but same opener. These threads need to stop. Sage goes in all fields.
Might as well shill my page:
http://trudetude.imgur.com/
