JUST IN: Sanders on possible "messy" Dem convention: "So what! Democracy is messy" http://hill.cm/LxjnWVP
>>74911063
>Democracy
Is there a bigger joke?
>>74911149
>>74911149
>>74911149
The whole democracy meme needs to die.
>>74911063
He will lose California and nothing will matter
Doesn't surprise me.
He's so old and senile, I think most of us have been expecting him to mess himself.
>>74911388
Maybe he's on our side, and he'll burn it all down. He has nothing to lose and he's old. I can only dream.
>>74911484
>Open borders
>On our side
Gtfo
>>74911484
>communist jew
>our side
>>74911666
What's pandering to liberals? You can't really deviate much on the Dem party, otherwise you are seen as a racist. It's a possibility
>>74911763
Just speculation. Maybe he's a "self hating jew", like Finkelstein
>>74911063
>Sanders represent the Dialectical Contradiction of Western Globalism.
There is a reason why I decided to side with Trump...even if I defend his nonsensical ramblings.
>>74911063
"Democracy is messy"
-Donald Rumsfeld on the post-invasion looting of Baghdad, March/April(?) 2003.
>>74911063
Crashing this party...
>>74911891
You sound like a true intellectual
>>74912020
There are more important things in life than to be an intellectual. Like Honesty, Humility, or just knowing how to talk to people.
Nevertheless, Globalism and Socialism are enemies, but Globalism creates Socialism at the expense of Globalism, due to its inherent dysfunctions with culture and civics.
Of course, you could be trolling. I couldn't tell without a tone of voice
He's going off the reservation.
This guy is going to have such a humiliating downfall.
Clinton is going to knock him down hard at the convention and people will riot. She knows it will be a waste of time and will only embolden the GOP if she debates.
I find it strange Obama is not siding with Bernie.
>>74912231
That's the one thing nobody on Pol has put together. All of the problems of Globalism aren't actually from Globalism but from Socialism ('Populism,') and Globalism is helpless to stem this tide. Islamism is also going to destroy the European project.
>>74912305
Sanders will get everything he wants but the nomination. One of the things about understanding Politics is that defeats can become victories and victories can become defeats. It's all about dat Calculus/Forces of History.
>>74912305
>people will riot
This will be unlike other conventions because they will all riot INSIDE the convention venue.
Hillary could be torn to pieces, or her guards might have to open fire on the barging multicultural hordes.
Either way it's going to be so fucking great. I've already convinced a local sports bar to have it on!
>>74912510
Bruh it's philly. The nigs will look for an excuse to chimp out
>>74912658
Yeah but this time they will be INSIDE THE CONVENTION HALL, not outside throwing their own feces.
>>74912743
Expect both
>>74912470
The point of the twin refugee crises (recall that the Mestizo Brown Tide at first was about refugees, immigrants were coached to talk about traumatic violence) is to collapse white governments and bring in totalitarianism.
Who would have expected the democrats to have a huge divide and contested convention top kek
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>>74911666
>bernie sanders
>open borders
Low info voter detected.
educate yourself.
>>74912872
>THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA BE CONTESTED
>LMAO LOOK AT THE STUPID REPUBLICANS TEARING THEMSELVES APART
>US UNITED DEMOCRATS ARE SUPERIOR
>>74912813
If, at any point, the government changes, then all of the powers are gone. Stalin was a fucking drunk before the Czar fell. Nobody would be that stupid to use the Shock Doctrine to overthrow the government they work with.
>>74912929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0
Forgot this. He names the republican establishment and their big business friends as the true pusher of open borders. Jeb is hated from all sides.
>>74912929
Those Hispanics look black as fuck to me.
>>74912784
The outside's always a mess, the inside has always been very tightly controlled.
They are going to have to let in shitloads of Bernouts this time though.
It's going to be funny as fuck, they will chimp.
>>74911063
Get cucked Bernout
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2016/05/04/bernie-sanders-embraces-undocumented-supporters-at-kentucky-rally/
>>74911888
marx was a self hating jew
have you not learned how damaging these types are?
>>74911063
>Democracy
>old commie jew who never worked a day in his life doesn't know we're a Republic.
Then again, this faggot is the type to unironically support mob rule. Which by the way, the Founding fathers were TERRIFIED of, and put in loads of safeguards so this never happened.
>>74911063
Ooo man what a twist. People won't realize what happened until it's over. They know hillary can't win, so hillary supporters are gonna stage protest leading to violence leading to martial law leading to emergency powers and elections postponed. No one will question it just say "goddamn commies" but it's why bernie's staying in. God he is so pathetic
>>74912743
Don't forget, there is gonna be more alcohol there this year too, or some shit like. IDK some anon linked a story about this a few weeks ago.
>>74913094
I find amusing that he always says in his proposals things like "the rest of the industrialized world" and "major countries". He just knows how shit the non white/ east asian world is.
That's probably why he lives in one of the whitest stated in the US. This dude is a national socialist who is hiding his power level.
However, he is a jew, so it might be trickery too.
Yfw Sanders kamikazes the Democrat party because Reddit made him feel like Lenin 2.0
>>74913523
Yea they never accounted for unlanded wealth, mass transit, or mass media like to. You can bet your ass they would've put safeguards in against money, commerce, and media if they knew the roles they had played today
>>74911388
This. I'm voting for Hillary in CA.
>>74913523
>republic
>not a type of democracy
What the fuck
>>74913106
I think those are black people
>>74913829
Yeah, absolutely. This is why I think libel should be criminalized. If the founding fathers knew HOW EFFECTIVE TV and the internet was compared to newspapers, I'm sure they would agree. At some point the bias and the lies become an organized attempt to SUBVERT our democracy, that can't be allowed to go unchecked seeing as how the media is supposed to be the "4th estate".
We had this same problem in the 50s, and McCarthy wasn't allowed to finish his task.
>>74911063
Real question Paraguay and all you other non-Americans out there:
Do you follow every American election? Like does your media report on it daily?
>>74914051
Or at least libel regarding anyone involved in government or trying to be, the rest can be civil suits.
It's one thing to not report inconvenient facts, its another to intentionally distort the truth over and over again to foist some nefarious agenda upon the people, and on our political process itself. Just look how afraid anyone is was/is to challenge Obama, for fear of being called a racist.
Sanders knows he can push his weight around without a majority because his supporters hate Hillary so much that she can't beat Trump without his support.
>>74913873
Enjoy having Gropin' Joe Biden as your nominee, aka the Hubert Humphrey of 2016
>>74914176
Our military and definitely our economic decisions effect the entire world, I don't blame them. It's ironic that the entire "establishment" world wants Hillary, who will crash the US economy and the rest of the world's as well.
>>74911891
>>74912231
Shit I thought that I was the only one who recognized this shit. If we don't stop globalism now then socialism will be inevitable in the future. History cannot be stopped but perhaps it can be slowed.
>>74914517
>who will crash the US economy and the rest of the world's as well.
I hate hillary as much as the next man, but do you have a single fact to back that up.
She is the only person in the race right now dedicated to protecting the current card house we call an economy. She is the most likely to do anything and everything to keep it propped up.
>>74914694
You stupid fucks don't even realize the TPP and TISA will replace everything with corporatism - socialism is the boogeyman they use to keep retards like you crabbing about MUH RACISM, etc
>>74911388
I'm voting hill dog in cali. Fuck this old idiot
>>74914756
>>74911063
Oh shit. I hope for a huge liberal chimpout at the DNC.
>>74914820
good goy
>>74911666
Bernie actually does talk about immigration being an attack on workers. He doesn't do it enough and he wants amnesty but it's something.
>>74914756
>She is the only person in the race right now dedicated to protecting the current card house we call an economy.
Nonsense. Trump's wealth and the well-being of his kids and grandkids is directly tied to large amounts of real estate in this country. Nobody actually has a great incentive for a healthy economy than Trump.
>>74911063
Pretty based, for a commie.
>>74914694
The order is misunderstood.
Socialism will stop Globalism.
In the year 2020, Germany will pay about 17% of its budget on welfare to refugees. Sweden and France are two other examples. America will fall in time because Mexicans use a ridiculous amount of Welfare too.
>>74914781
Right now. There are extremely powerful people think you are working for them because you vote Democrat. I shit you not.
If wealthy power players knew what was coming, they'd be buying property in Auckland. The die has been cast in this case.
>>74914820
sanders creating a contested convention is literally Trump's best outcome though
he's already on the cusp of passing Hillary in the polls and he's got a yuge amount of momentum
if it doesn't look like hillary can unify the party, Trump could win this election in his sleep. And he doesn't sleep much.
>>74911063
>MFW there's huge riots at the convention over Sanders, and leftists/feminists start beating each-other and tossing molotovs.
>>74915101
Not even New Zealand is safe - they're on the verge of ratifying the TPP as we speak
>>74915313
All the more reason for the wealthy to get on the jet. Remember now, the Corps have put themselves in a death grip between Pedro, Ahmed, Jamal, Karl, and Cletus. They are pinned down and are just discovering this because they can't activate people anymore. Memetically, we are becoming deprogrammed due to really, really, stupid decisions made around ~2012.
>>74915313
I can't emphasize this enough. There are powerful people who think you are on their side and that you are their puppet who'll dance to their tune. But we both know there is a dangerous force that brews within the Bernbros.
>>74914781
>>74915101
TPP was passed by the top Democrats, while Trump and other nationalists (often capitalistic) opposed it.
If you've noticed, anybody that tries to support national labor sovereignty gets shat-on as being "racist" by the left for not wanting to let more low-class foreigners in.
Trump's going to win simply because Bernie is going to shatter the Democratic party.
>>74915807
NLP theory would agree.
>>74915783
The problem is these low-class foreigners aren't pushed and pulled by the Corps. So while the right has fully fallen out of control, the left is slipping very fast. But the money will go away very soon as fiscal imbalances will break the system.
If I thought this could be saved, I would be saving it and working against all you pollacks, no offense.
I didn't think they could get any more desperate and then here we are
http://funnymatt.com/to-all-my-republican-friends-in-california/
tl:dr trump already has the nom so it doesn't matter so swtich sides and vote bernie
>>74911063
>MFW no one wants hillary but she still wins
Communist revolution when?
>>74911149
Berniefags
>>74911484
>>74911666
>>74911763
Politics makes strange friends. Sure, he's a communist kike that hates white people and western civilization BUT he also hates Hillary Clinton and the DNC and can tear their party apart if he chooses.
So, in a sense, he is on our side at the moment.
Also, hail Satan.
>>74916013
When I say Corps, I mean Globalists. I'm definititely pro Capitalist and it has a function in our society. But Globalists organize themselves into corps so I refer to them like Army Divisions.
>>74911063
And people were upset about trump?
>>74916168
Naw mane Communism is perfectly okay :^)
Totally a system that works
>>74911063
So when Bernie literally tears the democrats apart, how will they "unify" in less than a year? We're talking a guy who is so deluded he's willing to let his supporters riot and rip shit up because his ego is out of fucking control and he really believes he's going to somehow change America by promising free shit to everyone.
Can the democrats even recover if he incites violence at their convention? Could anything stem the explosion of negative press as the entire world sees that Bernie's supporters are fucking insane (Which will reflect poorly on the rest of their party) and are willing to throw an election because they want free shit?
>>74911063
>Bernouts and Hillnigs will race riot at their convention.
>The trump convention will be comfy af.
>So what? democracy is messy
What did he mean by this?
>>74916105
probably after the anarchist get done with the country so itll be a while. they havent even started yet
>>74916513
>>The trump convention will be comfy af.
There will probably be a bunch of rowdy Bernouts/Soros provocateurs around to try to shit things up outside of the Cleveland convention.
>>74916420
Clinton can definitely still win. But the Democrats will be an inter-civil war between Globalists + Black Community vs. Karl the Cuck and AIDS Skrillex. On the local level, the Globalists will be swarmed, and if Clinton doesn't win, then the Globalists will never again see the White House.
The Globalists made the fatal error of breaking apart the Southern Strategy. There is no recovery from this. Nixon was a political genius that the Beltway doesn't produce anymore.
Hahaha can't wait till Bernouts burn down the convention. It's going to be glorious.
>>74916630
What do you think the libertarian party is?
>>74916791
>3%
Reddit will convince itself that if they send more money to bernie that he'll somehow win. I really don't understand how those people got that way.
>tfw my "friend" says this is good
>he wants Bernie to "make a brighter future"
What do I even say to this cuck
How can someone be this stupid
>>74914923
Ssshh your neckbeard is showing...
>>74916900
>you can make a brighter future by MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
>>74913094
Ezra Klein looks so disgusting, like the sneaky jew meme.
>>74916900
>tfw leftists from outside America try to butt their heads into our election
I feel sorry for the right winged non-americans outside of our country.
>>74916992
He says "america cant be great again, we need a new system"
A new system of what? Fucking bread lines? Poverty?
>>74916900
Tell him he can come over to the winner's side when Bernout gets eliminated
>>74915184
dream come true bb
>>74911063
>majority rules
>messy
Just end your campaign cucknard
>>74917074
I live in Melbourne.
You dont understand this pain.
Cant wait to leave once I get a job overseas.
>>74917121
no
the longer he stays the more pissed off his delusional supporters will be thus making them more likely to split the vote or vote trump
we need him in
I love what Bernie is doing to the Dems. Maine and Vermont dem committees have both passed resolutions to bind superdelegates to the popular vote beginning in 2020.
>mfw the Democrats had this election on a silver platter and fucked themselves in the ass by letting Bernie drive the rhetoric to the left so hard
>mfw Bernouts are pushing Trump over Shillary in the general
America is waking up
>>74911063
Dems got so smug about the Republican party not being in total lockstep like the Democrats supposedly were, they didn't even realize how disconnected they were from their own base.
>>74911063
>3 million votes behind in the primaries
>Either trailing or tied in every remaining primary
>Still acts like he should be the nominee
Say what you will about the GOP, but at least their candidates had the decency to drop out when they realized it was impossible for them to win. How are people not realizing that this is just a money grab attempt by him to bilk every last dollar from his gullible supporters?
>>74916888
they grew up rich, whenever something doesn't go the way they want they fix it by throwing money at it. Why would they think this is any different
>>74913094
>defends the concept of the nation-state
Can't say I saw that coming. No wonder the Democrat establishment hates him like the GOPe hates Trump. He's not with the NWO agenda.
![hqdefault[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IvZE3nA.jpg "hqdefault[3].jpg")
>>74912305
Bernie has meddled with primal fuckin' forces. His attacks against Wasserman-Shutlz were the last straw. You don't draw the ire of the national committee like that and get to walk away unscathed. He's gonna get Howard Beale'd HARD after the election, given some token position within the party or the Clinton administration that will make him look like a fool and muddle his message, making everything he's worked for meaningless.
>>74917450
Everything just falls into place perfectly for the Don. Every fucking time. You have a portion of cuckservatives who won't vote for him, so the only way he should be able to beat the Democrats is if they eat themselves alive, and they're fucking doing it
>>74915101
>Socialism will stop Globalism.
I actually choked on my water reading this.
>>74915101
Dude. The goal of communism is complete globalism, and the abolition of governments from there.
Are they really going to riot in philly?
>>74917782
> network
Mein nigga
>>74917979
It'll be Chicongo 2.0.
>>74917845
>>74917906
Found the conspiracy theorists.
Despite what you may believe, big businesses doesn't want to pay for Bernie Sanders handouts. But we both know it is these very businesses which push the globalization of our world.
About ~10% of the population can distinguish between enemies, where-as most males are forced to lump their enemies together due to cognitive deficits. The world is full of many factions, and knowing each of them is the secret.
>>74917979
I can't fucking wait.
Black Lives Matter is going to bus in every nigger in Maryland.
>>74911888
He probably is a self-hating Jew, considering that, quote, "white people don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto, they don't know what it's like to be poor, etc."
>>74918295
but isnt the DNC in Washington?
>>74918374
No, Wells Fargo Center in Philly.
>>74918167
What the- have you even read the communist manifesto? I'm a fucking communist and I know this. It's not a conspiracy theory. The end goal of communism is for autonomous worker communes to govern themselves
THIS IS THE GREATEST ELECTION EVER
THERE'S A NEW TWIST EVERY DAY
ALWAYS ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT
EVEN GAME OF THRONES*** DOES NOT HAVE SHIT ON THIS
I FINALLY HAVE AN AMAZING STORY TO TELL MY GRANDKIDS OF "THOSE DAYS"
.
.
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***(Season 1 only, rest are DnD fanfiction trash)
based bernie is helping trump, time to shill for him if he can win california it will split the dem party
>>74918826
Bernie is an absolute madman, I'm not sure if he'll even ShillForHill after he gets fucked at the convention.
They can't control him, it's like he actually believes most of the retarded bullshit he talks about.
>>74918702
Globalists in Corporations are shilling Globalism. In Communism, these Corporations wouldn't exist. So how exactly do companies like Monsanto bring about a Communist revolution if it would entail that the shareholders would have to give away their property to Pedro?
I hate to be a dick but I have to draw a line against the Glenn Becks. Although even this, this 4chan discussion won't change what's already been set. The inter-party collapse of the Democrats.
>>74919113
Who are you arguing against? I never said anything about corporations or monsanto
>>74918167
I don't think socialism is exactly the answer to globalism. I understand that pushing welfare to its limits will make businesses and governments think twice about flooding countries with cheap labor that they will have to foot the bill for, but I also think they will look for corners they can cut like always. The quality of services will decline dramatically like we're seeing with the VA in our country, and the government will just tell you that it's like waiting on line at Disneyland:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/va-secretary-compares-wait-times-to-lines-at-disneyland/
They will also encourage euthanasia for the elderly like the architect of Obamacare (Rahm Emanuel's brother) has said:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
The government will be importing cheap labor from hellholes. These migrants will be thankful for getting any assistance at all. They riot now when austerity measures are proposed, but they can slowly be phased in as the demographics change. It can be done by grandfathering old people in and the like so that nobody really notices the change of quality of life, and the giant Ponzi scheme of globalization can continue.
>>74919352
Ah. I'm the derp here.
There are many forms of Globalism and I fucked up because Communism IS a form of Globalism (Before Marxist-Leninism.)
my bad. I am 100% in the wrong and that happens when you talk about complicated shit.
>>74919487
No worries, I was just confused as fuck
>>74916720
>Nixon
>genius
Is there some redpill about this? Wasn't he a crook?
>>74919391
Well someone better find me. Because you are only the SECOND person I've ever met who has said something in defense of Globalism.
Fun Fact: Either the 'elite' will pay sacrifices to keep their order or they won't. And honestly, about a third of them, when presented with the reality, would vote Trump.
>>74919676
Nixon was redpilled as fuck. Go listen to the tapes. He sounds like /pol/ when he talks about the degeneracy of homosexuality and drugs bringing down the Greeks.
>>74919688
I'm not defending globalism, I just don't believe socialism is the magic bullet you're making it out to be.
>>74920083
I'll pay attention when the Democrats are back under the boot heel again. Or. Bonus points. When the Sunnis are back under the boot heel. Because neither of these groups will fall under the boot heel on the Political Left.
I don't think you understand my argument, to be frank
>>74918826
He already has a yuuge following in California. It's disgusting but encouraging at the same time.
>>74919959
Not drugs bringing down the Greeks, but he relates marijuana to how homosexuality weakened society and how the USSR knew this too.
>>74916720
You're rambling. Good stuff, though.
>>74920277
Yeah. I do that....A cost of being like me.
>>74911063
REEEEEEEEEEEEE TRUMP WANTS TOO SUPPORT MUSLIMS FUCK YOU ALL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>74920110
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>>74911063
Kek seems like some old man got frustrated
>>74920182
I guess not. I know the globalist elites fear nationalist movements more than anything, socialist or not. The reason why Bernie is feared is because he's nationalist, not because he's a socialist per se.
I'm going down with the ship.
Fuck Hillary Clinton.
>>74911388
Fuck you guys, ypwe want him in because it will keep this shit show going longer. The longer this goes on the better for trump.
>>74920487
No. He's Socialist because he specifically wants to increase the Federal Government to distribute money to the poor and downtrodden.
Trump is nationalist because he wants to isolate the nation from the global trade networks.
Both are threats, but the fact that the Globalists have to fight them both off is like Germany trying to fight off Capitalism and Communism at once. It's just not going to happen.
>>74918626
Fuck fuck fuck.
>>74920360
>Muslim supports Trump
>"HURDUR TRUMP WANTS TO IMPORT ALL THE SANDNIGGERS FROM SYRIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>>74920273
Here's the transcript of what I was talking about:
http://www.csdp.org/research/nixonpot.txt
There's a lot more great stuff he discussed on the tapes too, of course, but this is what I was thinking of right now.
>>74920678
>Trump is nationalist because he wants to isolate the nation from the global trade networks
So does Bernie. He's a nationalist too. He opposes things like TPP and defends the concept of nation-states:
>>74913094
Both are national populists. They're both very similar. They are both in support of socialist policies.
>>74921386
Honestly, they aren't at all similar other than their opposition to the current regime. Again, in politics, you have to distinguish between groups but it's hard for most people to do so. Trump isn't going to wrek our budget from free feminist classes in college. And Bernie isn't going to try and deport every Mexican he can. They are two seperate forces just like America and Russia was during WW2. Think Game of Thrones.
Neither of these people may be Presidents but they've both successfully kicked out Globalism from their two respective parties. Which is the fundamental change. For me, the presidency is less relevant in the long term.
>>74921572
Nah, they're very similar. In politics, you have to see similarities between groups, but it's hard for most people to do. You're focusing on surface rhetoric and not seeing the big picture.
Also, I would compare Bernie's massive infrastructure renewal project to Trump's wall. You'll start to see the similarities once you make the right comparisons. There are many.
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>>74911321
>democratic party ends
<reemerges as the New Socialist Party of North America
>>74921903
Slow down anon, the Republican Party hasn't changed anything yet and Bernie isn't even going to get the nomination. Shillary swung left on socialist bullshit but everyone knows she doesn't give a shit about it.
The purges will come soon enough.
>>74915313
Then i can sue 4chan for giving me PTSD and no friends
>>74913827
goodfeelsallaround.png
>>74921998
Demographically and rhetorically they are different. On policy, they are distinct but rhyme. Yet they serve different constituents toward similar ends.
As someone who is focused on the nitty gritty shit, it doesn't matter if the Lion and the Bear both walk on four legs because their subtle differences lead to tremendously different creatures.
But both are insurgent candidates and take on features of being insurgents. Not trying to be argumentative, perhaps I overlook a few of the similiarities though differences are more useful in Communication
>>74921572
New guy here. I'd say there's a larger ABC - Anyone But Clinton mentality at work. To riff an old newfie phrase.
The personalities here are enough to belie the ideologies you're labeling here
Start shilling for Bernie you fucks.
Listen, in a fair election Sanders doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell against Trump. Clinton however has the capability of stealing an election. If you support Trump you want Bernie against him.
>>74922410
And maybe I take Trump's policies too seriously. The guy can be bipolar as shit. Your right. There is no convient term to describe 'Communication to appeal to Demographic' so Ideology is the closest comparable term I got.
Maybe I should use the word Marketing? But then it opens up all sorts of shallow properties that are absent in this campaign.
Good point.
>>74922393
I think even demographically and rhetorically they have many interesting similarities you can point to. Like I said, they're more alike than many people may think at first look. That's why at least a fifth of Bernie supporters are saying they're going to vote for Trump if Clinton gets the nomination.
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>>74913094
He's not wrong. I feel wrong for saying it but Bernie is right. There is absolutely a conservative element to blame for open borders. Many cuckservatives want cheap labor just as much as Democucks want cheap votes.
>>74922830
Alright I'll concede and give it a second look.
>>74922112
Anyway.
I'm curious about the "purges." What the fuck is going to get purged? The Entire American South? The memes that have cemented the Republican party are dead. So what's left to 'remove' if Reagan himself is removed?
I can't take people who work in politics seriously because they have no understanding of narrative crafting. It's like we've been doing the same reruns again and again without building our own new memes. That's why Trump took power.
>>74922576
In my more cynical moods I settled on manipulation, but rhetoric covers the basis.
Trump's done well in locking in the 'base'. My ten foot pole touch with politics taught me one thing- they're all whores cause making a deal is that important. Any deal is a victory, or can be spun as one.
That's why Bernie has trouble cause he's seen as too insurgent, Clinton too established and Trump is just right plus he inoculated the deal concept.
>>74916105
>nobody
She's winning the popular vote over Sanders by 3m.
>>74923798
Good points.
>>74920917
Nixon was an asshole but kind of a badass.
>>74911063
>the United States
>a democracy
Pick one you old fart.
>>74913714
Also drugs, don't forget the Bernouts are also mostly junkies.
It's going to be an actual riot.
>>74914176
There isn't a single nation in the world whose media doesn't mention Trump daily.
>>74922861
Of course he's right, and /pol/ keeps falling for the tactics that would divide the populist impulse that's rising up and threatening the globalist status quo.
Trump supporters really need to stop fucking with and antagonizing Sanders people. It directly benefits Clinton and her GOPe pals.
>>74918295
Why? Niggers hate Sanders.
>>74922054
The 2024 election is going to be full blown White Nationalist Party vs. Communist Party. Shits gonna be crazy.
>>74923996
Not to talk over some of the earlier points:
Ideologies tend to be groups of principles made by historians and academics.
Representative politicians work day to day in the the quanta of principles. Getting shit done and keeping the right principles for today, different from yesterday, is the hard part.
Ideologies are still a guiding hand.
It's rare to see a politician fully crystallised, keeping their principles intact through the entire rise to power. That's why I think /pol/ is fanatic about the last mega one
>Literally threatening a riot
Godspeed Bernie
>>74926816
This guy went to the Soviet Union for his honeymoon. It's not that far-fetched to think that he wants a similar revolution in the U.S. A riot is nothing to him.
>>74925765
If nothing is managed, then this the inevitable results. But it's very possible to derail this situation if enough good men get together. Anything Trump knows, I know as well (NLP,) and more importantly, I know things the current players don't. But it takes more than just one man.
What's interesting to me, that caught me off guard, was how you said that politicians are deal makers who then spend their days selling the deals they made. It was like one of those obvious things I missed that made perfect sense.
High-tier politicians/mega-ones (Reagan, Nixon, Lincoln, Roosevelt) maintain honesty because they can just invent principles and convince people to buy into them. Politicians who don't have that 'visionary' gift are in a much tighter spot because all principles fail when put to the test of politics.
There are far more prominent true-believers in history than cynical machievllians. But only because they started entering the morality scale beyond Kohlberg 6. At 7 you can meme-craft and begin to see patterns in history.
>>74926655
Lincoln getting the South to fire on Fort Sumter was perhaps one of the most crucial operations ever done in American History. The confederates couldn't cope with him or Sherman as an opponent because they were always ahead forever.
>>74927004
meant for as well >>74926655
>>74925226
trump hasnt touched sanders people, all he does is attack hillary and say sanders is being abused
>>74913827
>>74912929
>what_hispanic_people_may_look_like.jpg
>Socialism/Communism is anti-globalism
Literally the ideology made to enforce an one world order.
>Bernie is anti-globalism
You guys really gonna believe the socialist and jew? Trump himself denounced globalist and establishment sellouts from both parties several times, while Bernie just says "uhh open borders is a republican thing", and demonizing Trump while simply giving a free pass to Hilary, maintaining the leftright narrative the globalist bankers enforce so people keep blaming each other instead of them.
Look at latin-america, it's filled with socialists with a anti-globalist and protectionist lip service but just destroy the countries economies and do open borders policy, just so later "right wing" neocons sell the countries on the cheap, look at Maduro (jew) who is always pretending to be fighting globalism, but if he REALLY WAS, don't you think he'd get Gaddafi'd?
Also even Cruz and Rubio spoke about defending the borders and building the wall, after Trump spoke of it and had massive support. Bernie would be all about opening borders if Trump never had entered the race.
>>74911412
So underrated
>>74927301
Huh, that's fairly powerful event, though not my historical context. More so grapeshot and blackshirts.
Dunno your situation, but try to hustle with an immigrant conservative candidate, with a dumb smile on your face. You'll learn a bit on the practice of engineering
>>74929228
>blackshirts
Fuck
Strike that, redshirts
>>74929228
One day I'll get over my cold feet.
>>74913873
>>74914820
Fags, should have changed your party, he's going to lose anyways.
Trump for me.
>>74914781
>supporting candidate that is anti globalism
>somehow not anti-TPP/TTIP/TISA
>somehow getting tricked by fake socialists
You should get yourself checked, you might have a case of mental retardation.
>>74914781
This.
Also TTIP probably takes this even future and will try to abuse the instability in Europe caused by both debt and refugee crisis. We need to say fuck you to the global Corporatocracy and big banks.
>>74915783
TPP has not been passed yet.
>>74911484
That's the major problem with commiefags like the bernvictims. You're all dreamers, get a reality check bro. Human nature is inherently greedy and self absorbed and a society of pure equality can't work and also equality by force reduces the value of my effort the harder I work.
>>74911063
>Start preparing your police for total chaos at a republican convention
>End up having to suppress raging gommies instead
>>74913873
Ill be at my grandfathers farm in Texas taking care of him but im mailing out my republican ballot for Trump soon. I will only be able to vote for trump 3 times in my life, and I want to make sure I dont miss any of em.
>>74917782
good
>>74920539
same. fuck her.
>>74911063
It's gonna be a riot.
You faggots still don't know the difference between government welfare and socialism.
>>74933661
>but I'm not going to offer anything to the thread.
Fuck off leaf.
>>74912510
I cant think of anything more satisfying that raping a qt cop like this
>>74933661
>I am going to waste everyone's time bitching about semantics around the word "socialist"
>>74925765
>inb4 quoted by Young Turks
538 updated their forecast.
Sanders is going to get demolished in California.
>>74916833
Gary Johnson is very far from anarchist.
Hardly a "true" libertarian
Clinton will win the nomination, make a bunch of concessions to the hard left, pick warren as her vp and bernie and his supporters will fall in line because they don't want to give aid and comfort to trump.
a few ultralibs who didn't belong to the party anyway may vote green or socialist or workers world or whatever, and maybe a few supporters will vote trump, but not enough to to make a difference
clinton wins the general vote 54-46 and the electoral vote by like 120.
>>74932625
There won't be a third time. If he gets through his first term alive it'll be a miracle.
>>74920273
>>74919959
Reminder that Nixon abolished mandatory sentencing for Marijunana.
Big guberment Reagan reintroduced it though.
>>74912510
>>74912658
>>74912743
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>>74913714
>>74924520
God bless this election cycle.
>>74933661
I do, Bernie Sanders doesn't.
>>74912510
>I've already convinced a local sports bar to have it on!
We should also host a thread on /sp/, it's been too long since we last had a riotbowl thread.
>>74935673
>fun
>/sp/
you have to pick just one
>>74922491
based varg speaks the truth
>>74912929
His voting record says otherwise
>>74912305
>I find it strange Obama is not siding with Bernie.
You shouldn't. The Obongo camp brokered a deal with Clinton in 2008 for her to drop out so we could have our first nigger president, and she would get the full backing of the Democratic party in the 2016 election. That's where all bullshit regarding the rigged super delegate system stemmed from.
