Well lads?
The only thing they have in common is how fucking big they lost and how hilarious it is to make fun of their supporters.
>>74888908
>>74888908
Bernie is à great person, his ideas are just off. If you compare peaceful but idealist Bernie to war monger Clinton, youll see why so many people like Bernard
>>74888908
Good thing his meme died.
You don't see happening posts anymore.
>>74889049
sanders is losing but he's not losing big
>>74888908
Two old faggots that got cucked beyond belief.
No shit.
>>74888908
Anti establishment pariahs within their own parties.
Naw no kinship here.
>>74888908
They have a crazy old kook kinship
>>74888908
Dang it Ron Paul
>>74888908
>no link
>>74888908
well, now that's a bummer
![[EMBARRASSING]_1.png](https://i.imgur.com/TYRp59v.png "[EMBARRASSING]_1.png")
>>74888908
Ron what the fuck are you doing
>>74889173
>panders to minorities
>all minorities vote for hillary
I would say he lost big in this area
![18ceeb5f38[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gYCR8vb.png "18ceeb5f38[1].png")
>>74889332
Senpai...
>>74889101
Republicans really dropped the ball with Trump. Or should I say with other candidates.
Hell even Jeb or Kasich would have a decent chance of beating unlikable Hillary. Instead GoP had Trump and Cruz, two of the most unlikable Republicans, as front runners
>>74889399
pledged delegate votes are close if you don't count super delegates. i don't see what the number of minority votes has to do with what you originally said.
>>74888908
All minds start to slip after enough time.
>>74889332
>>74889354
>>74889357
It's not that hard to believe desu, sure in some ways they differ drastically
but on certain issues, like military expansion, they seem to completely agree
I may be wrong because I don't fully understand American politics but weren't they both independent/ not affiliated with one of the main parties for most of their political careers?
that also probably adds to the sense of "kinship" mentioned
>>74888908
Eh part of politics that many plebeian don't seem to comprehend is actually understanding other statesmen and working co op on points that you can agree on regardless of which side you're on.
But Paul fucking hates Sanders for neutering his Audit The Fed bill.
This smells of kikery.
He's lived long enough to see himself become a villain.
>>74889605
you balkan monkey, don't talk of something you know nothing about
trump is ahead in polls and is the best candidate to beat hillary
>>74889114
>>74889264
>>74888908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOEJGKusJb8
>>74888908
People have been saying it for years, libertarians and commies are flip sides of the same shekel. They both originate from Jewish anti-Western and anti-authoritarians and they both result in chaos, death, and degeneracy.
Shit, he's got a point.
Guess I'm a Cruzmissile now.
>>74888908
Ron "CONTROLLED OPPOSITION" Paul
at it again. He is a FALSE PROPHET
Only one man can save us...
>>74888908
I'd honestly vote for Sanders over Trump, because Sanders is more like Ron Paul in a lot of ways. However, since that is an exceedingly remote match up and I fucking hate Clinton, I'd rather vote Trump that piss away my vote on some pseudoLibertarian being funded by the Koch brothers.
>Free market libertarian feels kinship with big government socialist
Old man's going senile. Ron Paul's big thing used to be his integrity, and now he's viewing a generic slimy kike in a favorable light.
>>74890033
>Drumpfarts think their flip-flopping idol and long-time Democrat supporter/billionare playboy will change anything
>>74890259
>flipflopping
>Ron Paul is feeling akin with Sanders
A bit hypocritical pham.
>>74889904
The ideologies are completely different--as in, completely on opposite sides of the political spectrum--and have nothing to do with each other, really. Get laid you fucking NatSoc virgin fuckwit, and maybe you'll stop being so butthurt towards people who give no fucks about you.
>>74890259
Listen to you faggot.
Ron "False Prophet" Paul suddenly feels kin-ship to a fucking SOCIALIST? Even the manlet Rand would not say this shit.
GO fuck yourself.
>>74888908
man ron paul has gone insane, he has been against trump since the beginning even calling him a shill. yes he used that word and now hes siding with a communist. does he realize the people who used to support him even the people running his website is siding with trump? why is this old man so delusional?
>>74888908
Of course Ron shares certain characteristics, he does with nearly everybody. Bernie Sanders was a true fighter in the civil rights movement, and that's kind of admirable.
He's just misguided about how to fix the country and economy and therefore should NOT be President.
>>74889824
>(((((Sacha Baron Cohen)))))
>>74889615
>If you dont count superdelegates
Top kek
>>74888908
He's a populist but for all the wrong reasons. Some ideas are good but he panders to minorities and he is a crypto-commie-Jew, ergo he must lose. Fuck commies
>>74890498
Agreeing that society has problems, and agreeing on those problems, has nothing to do with political stances, retard. You didn't even read what Paul said. Corporatism and the military industrial complex ARE huge problems and you'd have to be a head-in-dirt retard to not agree.
>>74890033
Yes I can't wait till Trump wins.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to go get my wife's son circimsized.
>>74889904
>libertarian beliefs result in chaos, death.
Fuck no. Neoconservative globalism results in chaos and death around the world. They profit from absolute foreign policy disasters like the Iraq War. Sanders, Paul and even Trump are above that shit.
Honestly I'm not surprised they have some kinship. There aren't many U.S. politicians willing to call out our fucking retarded foreign policy. Sanders and Paul are also some of the last remaining faggots trying to stop the out of control government surveillance.
What's got me worried is Trump meeting with that evil, globalist debt-slut Kissinger.
>>74889748
fucking this
Is there anyone who is actually for corporatism or special benefits to big business?
>>74890963
Hillary
>>74890741
Yes but you do not fix those things with MORE government. This should be counter to everything Ron Paul stands for. Agreeing that there are problems should not make one align themselves with a fucking socialist.
>>74890963
>Is there anyone who is actually for corporatism or special benefits to big business?
Yes, but sometimes unwittingly: Including everyone supporting Clinton, and any Republican that isn't supporting the Trump or Paul alt-right ideologies.
>>74891200
>Agreeing that there are problems should not make one align themselves with a fucking socialist.
Believe it or not, the problems they're united against are bigger than economic differences. The military industrial complex and global elite hegemony is a debt-fueled cancer on not just the U.S. but most of the world.
>>74891200
Paul clarified and said that the ways to combat those issues, in his opinion, are way off from what Bernie believes. He's not aligning himself with a socialist. Read what he said. Agreeing with something someone said isn't "aligning" himself with Bernie. It might even be a tactic to encourage Berntards to leave the Democratic party.
>>74891442
Paul isn't alt-right
>>74891563
I'm not sure what really qualifies as alt-right tbqh familia. I consider anything outside the current neoconservative Republican establishment to be alt-right.
IE: nationalists and libertarian faggots.
>>74890629
what?
>>74891791
Alt Right is not just "non-neocon"
Alt Right implies an implicit rejection of egalitarianism
Ron Paul was alt right in the past but he has moved away from freedom of association issues with racial implication, and from border enforcement
Nowadays libertarians are leftists that want low taxes
>>74889605
oh look it's that hillary shill from herzegonikivaolol, kill yourself you muslim piece of shit i've seen you post alright
Ron Paul is Libertarian-Right
Bernie Sanders is Libertarian-Left.
They both live in a country run of authoritarians. Many of their concerns for future of the US resonate well with each other, economic policies are vastly different.
>>74891791
He's a paleolibertarian. It's like libertarianism realism, that could be implemented within our lifetimes.
>>74892313
>Bernie Sanders is Libertarian-Left.
haha oh wow
>>74892313
> libertarian
> expansive government
>>74892365
He is though. He believes in great societal freedom, and less economic freedom.
>>74892558
Is it so hard to see that being Libertarians is not all about money and economics?
>>74892611
so he is a progressive, not a libertarian
>>74889332
Oh look, it's the Mexican pedo poster again.
>>74892761
> Libertarians is not all about money and economics?
wut
For some bizarre reason you wanna call progressive libertarians?
>>74892202
>Alt Right implies an implicit rejection of egalitarianism
I wish you'd expand on that. I'm a leftist nationalist, but I consider myself very egalitarian. My egalitarianism just happens to end at our border.
>>74892313
You got it. Few people can see the nuance during all the shit-flinging.
>>74892365
It's true to an extent. We're thinking on a different spectrum. Pic related.
Fuck it, links related too:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/is-there-a-libertarian-case-for-bernie-sanders.html
http://www.alternet.org/comments/election-2016/why-libertarians-should-love-bernie
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/penn-jillette-bernie-sanders-libertarian/
>>74892611
>He believes in great societal freedom
Haha oh wow. He's anti-gun. He's a traditional big government regressive.
>>74892313
>Bernie Sanders is Libertarian-Left
No, no he's not. He's Authoritarian-left.
>Libertarian left
>I don't think the government should interfere but I live life otherwise like a leftist
>Libertarian right
>I don't think the government should interfere but I might shame or deny service to people that live ways I disapprove of
>Bernie Sanders
>The government should take care of peoples problems.
>>74888908
I'm sorry, /pol/
>>74889605
Find those snipers yet?
>>74888908
>Ron
>supporting a communist
K
>>74893033
> My egalitarianism just happens to end at our border.
then you are tribalist, not egalitarian
e·gal·i·tar·i·an
iˌɡaləˈterēən/
adjective
1.
of, relating to, or believing in the principle that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.
> all people
>>74893056
>>74893038
>>74892852
>>74892785
He's advocates: Open borders, non-interventionism, LGBT rights, legalizing drugs, and generally advocates less government regulation on what people can and cannot do. This is VERY MUCH inline with Libertarian ideals. Ron Paul shares many of his viewpoints on society and its freedom from governmental control, just not the economic part.
This makes him a left-libertarian.
>>74893056
>No, no he's not. He's Authoritarian-left.
Nah, brah. Our country is authoritarian in ways you may not even be noticing.
Sanders, and other leftist libertarians, want to end the drug war and end the domestic surveillance. They also want to end the foreign interventions that end up putting us in debt.
That's a lot of CRITICAL fucking common ground. Especially since every one of those issues is an up-hill battle for anti-establishment politicians. We need all the cross-aisle allies that we can get.
>>74893599
that makes him a progressive
You seem to believe Trudeau is a libertarian for some reason
>>74893605
Why are u people ignoring that the difference between progressives and libertarians is their view on the economy?
>>74893149
>false song of globalism
This is what brought me to Trump in the first place.
He's not perfect, but at least he's saying what needs to be said.
>>74893605
>want to end the drug war and end the domestic surveillance
I'm fine with that. But I don't know how honest he is about that. And he also wants to insert a bunch of regulations on the government as well.
And even if he was perfectly aligned with my ideals, he still lost.
>>74893779
You seem to believe that Libertarianism is only about economics and taxes.
>>74893877
I'm getting somewhat tired of this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
>>74893599
>advocates less government regulation on what people can and cannot do.
Unless you want to buy the ultimate tool of freedom. Then it's a no-no.
He fails the test at very basic levels. He's not even off the ground in terms of libertarianism.
>>74894121
What do you think the differences is between them and progressives?
>>74894121
>You seem to believe that Libertarianism is only about economics and taxes.
It's not, but if you are not staunchly pro-gun, then you are a not a libertarian of any stripe.
>>74893358
>then you are tribalist, not egalitarian
Now that's hilarious. I don't think that's a label that would make me many friends outside of nationalist circles. My tribe just happens to be America. Including Americans of all colors.
All people should be treated equally - ideally - but socioeconomic realities in the third world and Middle East still necessitate nation states and strong borders.
>>74893877
It's just a case of differing priorities. While I think that the economy is important, I believe we have bigger fish to fry. That's all.
>>74893599
>Open borders
Terrible idea, completely screws over the American people but libertarian nonetheless.
>non-interventionism
Doubtful, I do believe he refused to cancel the drone program.
>LGBT rights
Government forcing churches to marry gays isn't libertarian, ending marriage as a government institution would be the libertarian idea.
Forcing people to call tranny men women isn't libertarian. Neither is forcing people to sell to or hire gays.
And there is nothing that gays can do that straights can't do.
>legalizing drugs
Libertarian, but chances are he won't do it.
He's just a leftist, stop trying to pretend to be a libertarian and just admit what you are.
>>74889332
Who is this semen demon
>>74893877
While is is a lot on the economy.
Regressives also believe in.
>forcing tolerance
>forcing association
>banning speech they don't like
>forcing people to do things they don't want to for the sake of "tolerance"
>>74894329
Because guns are the ONLY measure of freedom a society has. Jesus christ, dude. How black and white is your world?
>>74894324
They're synonymous and are used interchangeably. I, however, do not like the name "progressives", as it gives people the idea that you are moving towards progress, which is entirely subjective.
>>74894631
All those points are highly Libertarian. Also, I have not heard Bernie Sanders advocate governmental control over private institutions / churches if their Religion conflicts with a service a customer may request.
Also, you fucking idiot, I'm right-libertarian by a fucking mile. I'll always advocate free market, free people, small government, and low taxes. I'm just not living in some bubble world where only right-wingers can have Libertarian view points.
>>74890467
They are opposite sides of the same coin. They both share the same belief that normal Western civilizations are all evil and need to be deconstructed in favor of radical collectivism or radical individualism.
One day when you grow up you might have enough experience to know that the same sort of people flip-flop between these ideologies.
>Get laid you fucking NatSoc virgin fuckwit, and maybe you'll stop being so butthurt towards people who give no fucks about you.
High school must be hard on you.
>>74894631
>non-interventionism
>Doubtful, I do believe he refused to cancel the drone program.
True, but that's still a huge step away from the regime-changing rhetoric from the Clinton/Bush/Obama partisans.
>LGBT rights
>Government forcing churches to marry gays isn't libertarian
That's not happening. They're forcing states. Churches can still deny a ceremony service if they wish.
>legalizing drugs
>Libertarian, but chances are he won't do it.
He's said more about it than any other candidate. At least for marijuana.
>He's just a leftist, stop trying to pretend to be a libertarian and just admit what you are.
He may be a lot of things. But we know what we are, and we're voting for the old faggot that happens to come closest to that ideal. Unfortunately American two-party politics don't leave us anti-establishment bastards with all that many choices.
>>74889101
how is he a great person
he has held a high paying govt job for decades and has not actually accomplished anything
he has actually prevented anything good from happening
You can't expect him to support Hillary Clinton
>>74895713
If you actually want to vote Libertarian, Gary Johnson would be the best choice I believe.
>>74889399
They both pandered to minorities desu. Black people just really like Bill tbqh
(((((RON PAUL)))))
>ebin
Do they regularly shoot the shit over vicodin and mushy peas at the shuffle board table
>>74895316
>Because guns are the ONLY measure of freedom a society has.
They are the only means of guaranteeing freedom. Everything else is fancy words and ivory tower bloviation.
>>74890564
>Bernie Sanders was a true fighter in the civil rights movement, and that's kind of admirable.
?
He was one of those paid professional activists
A northerner travelling to a black area to advocate for the negros, then moving back to his white vermont home
>>74895316
>Also, you fucking idiot, I'm right-libertarian by a fucking mile.
So you are 100% no-restrictions pro-gun?
R34?
>>74895957
>If you actually want to vote Libertarian, Gary Johnson would be the best choice
Oh yeah, I agree. I'd take Trump over Clinton any day, just for his nationalist message, but I'll probably pussy out and vote third party.
I'm not in a swing state so it's not like I matter.
>>74897066
>A northerner travelling to a black area to advocate for the negros, then moving back to his white vermont home
Sure.
Hate the guy all you want, you can't take that away from him.
>>74897184
If you want to make this a contest: I don't even believe in private ownership or property rights.
If you can't defend your shit, you'll lose it if someone wants to take it from you. More so, nobody has any kind of right on anything. Not healthcare. Not education. Not water. Not food. Not land. Etc. Claiming owner over anything that is INTRINSICALLY cannot be owned is just as bad as theft, which is only just a forced repossession of anything.
Do you I support people having the right to own guns? NO I don't. You don't have a right to anything. If you happen to have a gun though, so what. You probably want to defend your shit as well.
>>74898222
This sounds like anarchy rather than libertarianism. Barbarism, more specifically.
>>74888908
He says he agrees with some problems he brings up but the way to resolve them is the opposite of what Paul would do. Do you guys even watch the videos or read the articles or do you get your news from headlines?
>>74888908
proof that libertarians are fucking idiots
>>74889605
>the person who won is more likely to lose
I'll never understand cuck logic.
>>74898222
In a country with blacks and Mexicans this would mean a revolution every week.
