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> my white 25-30yr old friends say they never want kids
I don't understand. Is this normal? I can't imagine not having the urge to have children. Like, what are you going to do all your life? Why do white people do this?
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>>74823742
With white women nowadays, it's totally understandable. The rare ones who aren't degenerate are already taken. Lost cause.
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>canadian queers producing kids
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>>74823824

>t. Schlomo Shekelstein
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Rats fuck and make a billion new rat lives everyday. Maybe kids make sense if you're religious but why even bother?
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>>74823923
t. white knight
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I know my genes are shit and have decided to do you all a favour?
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We'll be like the lost civilisation from those Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger games.
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What annoys me is that no one wants to have kids becauz they'd get in the way of boning hella chicks or prevent them from their destiny as a billionaire.
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>>74823956

First of all, my north African friend, I would like to hear what your grand plans (aside from praying to Mecca) consist of as you have so much free time devoid of family.

Also, what will you last words to your Filipino caretaker be on your deathbed while she rifles through your belonging looking for things to pawn?
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>>74823742
Haha are you saying you're not MGTOW? Get a load of this cuck!
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>>74824133
Win the ideological and racial war, subdue the women from the Zionists and their puppets and then rebuild the Roman civilization.

That's a bit stiff for you Christcuck, isn't it?
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I don't want kids because the future is looking bleak. Next generation is going to have it worse than us. I can imagine that being a long and heartbreaking road to walk down.
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>>74824134
2 of them are in relationships and one is a girl tho
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>>74824042
Less corruption in the bloodline is fine by me.
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>>74824293
>Win the ideological and racial war, subdue the women from the Zionists
>Christcuck

Wow, the muslims sure are getting uppity these days.
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If they believe any way in socialism, tell them how fucking hypocritical they are, willing to live in their old age with others people's kids money, but not willing to raise their own young to contribute to society and to also pay taxes and such.
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I see no point of having kids. I find kids rather annoying. They don't fill me with contentment. Why would I want to invest so many resources into something that will probably make me miserable?

And why would I risk putting a kid through an awful life? If he were lucky, he would be born with above average intelligence and have a well-paying job, allowing him to be a slave to the government for the next 50 or so years. Picking up a deadly disease which makes his life hell is always a possibility.

On top of that, I also have to worry about him getting indoctrinated by far-left liberals and disgusting lgbt scum. Imagine your kid on the front lines of an lgbt parade.

If the government payed me to have kids and the culture were more traditional, I'd consider having some, but until then, I won't.
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>>74823742
>can have half my shit taken away for no reason whatsoever to pay for my "wife" BBC addiction
>most women now want BBC or hate (white) men
>no jobs in sight, who would ever want to marry a jobless man? Tyrone gets government welfare so he is infinite money
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People who have kids are unhappier than those who don't have kids. I'm not interested in making myself unhappy
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>>74824461
>if you're not christian you're muslim hehehe

Bible belt faggot, how many generations have been lobotomized by middle-eastern religions?
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>>74823837
Produce some poo in the loo for a change.
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>>74823837
:c you are being naughty india
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>>74824543
>Not producing offspring to ensure the survival of your genes and your race

You might as well just kill yourself right now, anon. You may as well be committing suicide.
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>>74823742

I honestly just want to fuck hookers and play video games the rest of my life.
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>>74823742
kids are funny as hell i don't know why young people dislike them nowadays, and for example love dogs or other animals that while are cool etc are extremely annoying sometimes.
And will not take care of you when you are an old sack of shit.
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White people should just stop reproducing. The women should be breed with blacks and the males finish transitioning.

Hard truth.
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>>74823742
>wanting your kids to live in a nigger-infested shit-planet
Demographic trends don't change because you want them to. Resources and per-capita living space are declining, which favors r-selected subspecies (brown people). White people are smart enough to recognize this and bail before they accidentally subject their progeny to future nigger gang rape.
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>>74824674
Than why dont you go fuck multiple chicks like a nigger and say muh survival race you fucking abomination
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nationalism is dead, religion is dead, any sort of ingroup/outgroup thought explicitly discouraged

grow up smoking pot and being told to follow your dreams and chase your own happiness

now you're 25 years old and you have no conception of any good greater than yourself and all you care about is your own physical comfort. of course you don't want kids.

of course the fact that it's now impossible for 80% of people to get a job that pays well enough to support a family on a single income doesn't help.
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Leave it to the blacks. They'll be pumping up them hoes and leaving them.
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>>74824299
>things are hard
>might as well give up and ensure defeat by not raising another generation

You deserve every terrible thing that happens to you.
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>>74824674

>muh genes
>muh race

Literally neanderthal thinking.
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Why should you have kids these days? I've yet to see decent arguments that aren't
>muh caretakers when old
>muh genetics
>muh white race
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>>74824534
>most women now want BBC or hate (white) men
[citation needed]

>>74824543
Selfish as fuck. You're willing to live in a society that people fought, bled and died for, yet you're not willing to contribute anything. You might as well kill yourself.
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>>74824763
That is the defeatist approach. You could also impregnate as many women as possible in an attempt to save the white race. You can choose to be a pussy who gives up, or go out there and rape some white chicks.
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>>74824966
How can you be defeated if you leave the game before the other side has won?
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>>74825053
those are decent arguments
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>>74824796
Who the fuck said anything about fucking multiple chicks? The more people who adopt your mindset, the quicker the race dies.

Piss off with your selfish, nihilistic outlook. People like you are part of the problem.
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>>74823742
western culture is pulling a japan....we should've seen the warning signs.
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>>74825104
No they aren't.
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One of two possibilities.
>Young and dumb.
>Career girl.
If she's not a career girl, she'll hopefully grow out of the "me, me, me" bit that infests 20 something year-old thought.
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>>74824966
Fuck off mohammed
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>>74825044
Where do you think we are right now?

Also, yes, fuck me for advocating survival over nihilism. I forgot that's just how it is in current year.
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>>74825245
Are you having trouble comprehending things, Pedro? Must be that low Spic IQ.
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>>74824966
Look at the bright side, if we die, they will follow soon after.

Though that could summon the thought of a heaven full of dindus
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>>74825044
>ITS OLD THER FOR ITS RONG!!!1
>propagation of genetics and survival of your race is wrong
Please fuck off, kike
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Why do people think their kids will take care of them when they're old? How many people do you know take care of their parents?
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>>74824966
More like:
>things are obviously unwinnable
>might as well not devote my life to a failed cause, instead i should probably enjoy what i can while i can

Go quietly into that good night, anon.
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>>74825391

It's not wrong; I simply do not care either way. Have 10 kids if you'd like. As long as I'm comfy It doesn't matter to me.
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>>74824475
They already paid their fair share of taxes by the time they are old you retard.
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>>74824475
Nothing wrong with being a hypocrite. Whatever works.
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>>74825184

You're a nihilist so you don't have a leg to stand on.

Accept the challenge I proffer. Save yourself the suffering and BEAT DAT BOSS!
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>>74823742
It's completely normal if you're a white heterosexual male. It just means you've realized that you're fighting a losing battle.
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>>74823742
>do you think your genes are not worth passing on?
best question to ask those fuckers
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>all these defeatists
Pathetic. All is not lost, you faggot shills.
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>>74825745
>It just means you've realized that you're fighting a losing battle.
hello worthless cuck. why are you still alive?
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>>74825184
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>>74825816

You have to realize that most people who accept defeat have done so through personal (not societal) exploration.

They speak for themselves and their own inadequacies.
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>>74823742
white people being white people I guess
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>>74823742
My mum wants me to give her grandchildren so I'm gonna nig up and impregnate as many women as possible.
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>>74825828
>raising another mans child
>calls someone else a cuck
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>>74825816
>Oh vey bad goyim! Better raise the next generation of taxpayers to support the influx of shitskins!
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>>74825972

>Oy vey! We should all just kill ourselves now and avoid paying taxes at all!
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>>74825972
>Oh vey bad goyim! Better not making children to give way for the influx of shitskins!
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>>74825972
>implying the Jews don't want mass immigration and the genocide of the white race
>implying I don't want more white people
>implying I don't want the destruction of the welfare state (including pensions, you elderly faggots)
>implying I don't want lower taxes
Fuck off
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There are very few women worth marrying
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>>74823742
whenever i see a kid runing around, i have the urge to punching them in the face
so, no?
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>>74826112

Is that why you have 72 GB of hardcore gay porn?
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Because if youre a responsible adult you take more than a few things into account when making a child, certain things like:
Can I provide for my child right now
Will i have a stable enough relationship with my wife for the duration of my childs life
Can I raise a child in a way that makes him a good adult.
Am i ready to not only create a baby but also a toddler, teenger, adult, old man and than finally a dead person who will either have a great succesful life or a life of misery and despair and everything in between.

Whereas uneducated inner city thought process is
>OOPS I DUN NUTTED INSIDE XD
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>>74823742
Kids get in the way of individuality and they also cost too much
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>>74826103
>MUH WHITE RACE
You act like my singular decision of whether to have children or not will have a significant impact on the demographics of the future.
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>>74826248
The way to solve this is by dismantling the welfare state so poor stupid people (including their children) die off if they have too many kids.
If you take money from the more successful (intelligent) people, they will have less money with which they can raise a family. It has a dysgenic effect.
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so many defeatist faggots and anti white shills here.

The real reason none of you have kids is because it requires you to get a girl to have sex with you but your shitty personalities are so selfish and chucked no woman will ever want to date you let alone put your penis inside her.

Also, the retards saying that they don't want their kids to have to grow up in a world full of nothing brown people, if you all had a bunch of kids they wouldn't have to.

White people are the most precious resource on earth.
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>>74826350
If everyone who thought like you chose to have 2 or 3 (or more) white kids, things would change dramatically.
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>>74826254
>he fell for the Child Free Jew
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>>74826448
Or incentive based eugenics.
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>>74826472
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>>74826472
/thread
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>>74823742
>having kids at all
>not being a sperm donor
lmao
m
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>>74826500
Yeah they won't though, because white people are K-selected and our environment is becoming unstable. Stop pretending like you have free will, the actions of human groups are just another force of nature, like the weather.
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>>74826448
But you're assuming that the most intelligent people always rise to the top. That isn't the case at all.

We just need to stop welcoming foreigners into our countries and baby sitting niggers.
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>>74826472
Many of us would love to have families and get somewhere. The kicker is that society denigrated whites so much, men are literally ditching the system and not giving a fuck anymore as the system didn't give a fuck about them because of family fragmentation.

Now if No Fault Divorce never existed then maybe this shit wouldn't be a problem, but until the system is fixed, men will continue to be beaten over their heads with their own offspring by opportunists.
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>>74826500
>if everyone who thought like you
So what? Why should I care what others do? I can't change their decisions either way. I only need to worry about my own happiness.
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>>74823742
these are both it op
>>74824763
>>74824808

a lot of white people instinctively or maybe subconsciously, get that a future for white people is going to be a lot worse than the environment they grew up in
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>>74826472
>Australia

Pic related of your future offspring.
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>>74826053
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>>74823742

<_<
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>>74825093
>Impregnate women
>Getting called for child support and your offspring become leftist robots
>Getting thrown in prison where you get buttfucked by Tyrone due to "rape"
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>>74823742
I want to pass on my genes but I don't want to spend all that money and precious little time I have to live on raising kids. So I'm donating sperm.
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>>74826676
More intelligent people tend to make more money. That isn't necessarily the top, but it is well above average. (ie >75,000 USD)
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>>74826725
>I'm the only one that matters
t. selfish hedonist
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I dony want kids, and the family name will carry on so i dont have to have them.

I dont want them because I always want to have the option of doing whatever I want. I dont want to have to worry about whats going to happen if I die. I will always be able to say/do whatever I want. I will be able to put my life at risk skydiving or telling a random streetgoer to fuck off, and if I die, I wont leave someone behind who needs me.
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>>74826987
Please don't lie to yourself and think that you are living for anything other than yourself. If you inherited enough money to live the rest of your life comfortably, would you still show up for at work for Mr. Shekelstein at 7am every day?
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>>74826987
Yes, and?
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>>74823742
This is the norm in the west. I'm assuming you're middle-class or higher? Yes?
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>>74826717
That's a defeatist attitude. You say you won't get married because divorce laws are biased against men. You are going into marriage under the assumption that you will definitely get divorced so you probably will. You are also living under the assumption that whatever woman you choose to marry will be an awful cunt and ruin your life and she probably would since you hate women. The irony of all you MGTOW is everything you say is a result of having little to no contact with women at all.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>74827116
>would you still show up for at work for Mr. Shekelstein at 7am every day?
No, I would start my own business. I would still do things.

>>74827129
And people like you don't make good members of society. Kill yourself.
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>>74827221
>Kill yourself.
Why would I do a thing like that?
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>>74827221
And why are you starting your own business? Isn't it for your own personal satisfaction?
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>>74823742
>I don't understand. Is this normal? I can't imagine not having the urge to have children. Like, what are you going to do all your life? Why do white people do this?
It's brainwashing conducted by state institutions and entertainment industry in countries colonized by the U.S/EU/NATO.
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>>74823742

I'd need a wife or at least a gf to produce kids anon. If artificial wombs became a thing I might consider it.
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>>74827129
>I have no social obligations because muh spooks

This meme is so retarded.
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>>74827304
>y-you're just like me, I s-swear
Is it inconceivable to you that other people have things that they live for other than themselves?
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>>74827383
I don't have any social obligations though. Nothing bad will happen to me if I don't have white children.
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>>74827412
You live for things other than yourself because doing so brings you personal enjoyment.
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>>74827383
I pay my taxes. Why should I do anything else?
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>>74827355
You're going to have to go teach english in Eastern Europe for a few years, or settle for an ugly chick, if you want to find someone who is wife material. After a generation of boomer parenting, and being raised by single mothers, most people in the west are simply broken. They are hopelessly handicapped with neuroses and personality disorders that make relationships almost impossible.
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>>74827420
The point of life is the continuation of life. If you cannot fulfill the most basic biological urge, which is the urge to reproduce, then you've failed at the literally sole reason for your own existence.

Everything that you do ties in to the urge to reproduce. Eating, sleeping, taking a shit, enjoying yourself to avoid depression, all of these things is to keep yourself alive to the point where you can reproduce.
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>>74826952
I'm not so sure about that. Ass kissers, corporate whores, ruthless scumbags and affirmative action hires climb the ladder fairly easily. Intelligent people can get well payed but they actually have to prove themselves as being useful unlike others and they are often exploited by people at the top who tend to be from the ruthless scumbag variety.
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>>74827203
You do know Aussie that Divorce rates are 50% or higher and child support and alimony are heavily skewed towards women, not to mention false rape accusations atop that as well.

You may as well be putting your dick in a blender if you think it's a good idea to have kids in an economy where it's difficult to raise kids. Not to mention that the school system is fucked up and filled with leftist propaganda which would make your teaching them pointless.
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>>74824674
>tfw spic
>tfw don't care
t.wizard
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>>74827485
>I pay my taxes. Why should I do anything else?
LITERALLY a slave.
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>>74827500
There's no reason for my existence, I just exist.
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>>74827544
You're factually incorrect.
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Why should I want kids? I'll never had kids lol. Fuck that.

Tell me a single good reason to have children. There are none. If you're honest with yourself and think about why your parents had children you will find that it was most likely for a selfish reason. Most of your parents probably had you for their own ego fulfillment.

That's what it boils down to: ego fulfillment. Or a fear of death. Or religious dogma peddlers wanting a larger flock.

There is not a single valid reason for reproducing. Humankind would be better off if more people recognized this.
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>>74827564
You're right, I have no way to be certain that I exist.
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>>74827485
"red pilled"
you're paying for welfare queens,single mothers,people like Elisabeth warren, Bernie sanders,hillary, abortions, gender neutral restrooms,and shekleberg.
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Me and my wife already have 3 beautiful blonde hair, blue eyed children and we're both 24.

I have a 4 year old son and twin 1 year old daughters.

We plan to have another one within the next 5 years.
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>>74823742

>raised by Feminists
>repeatedly see the shitstain of the modern family, see older men get treated like shit by their wives, the legal system and by their kids
>don't want to go down that road

It's incredibly straightforward.
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>>74823742
I'd like to but I don't see myself being in a position to any time soon and I don't agree with people having kids so late.
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>>74827462
Even if what you say is true (it's not), it's still different from your entirely selfish, hedonistic life, as all you seem to care about is yourself. You apparently don't have in-group preferences, you don't want to be part of a larger community, you don't want to contribute to the future of humanity, etc., whereas I do.
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>>74827628
I'd rather do that than be sent to jail for tax evasion. But please tell me, why should I have any other obligations to society?
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>>74827582
>1 post by this id
>american
Fuck off CIA.
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>>74827582
I agree.

Let the iraqis and somalian families all have 6 kids and the whites can have 0.

good goyim
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>>74827642
The point of feminism is to destroy the nuclear western family. You're playing right into their agenda by folding and accepting your defeat that THEY consciously sought.
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>>74824966

There's no "giving up" when you've been beaten into submission. At some point you just accept your fate.
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>>74827420
>>74827485
Falling for muh spooks meme makes you disassociated. Too much individualism leads to the extinction of the species.
If you think only in yourself you're an evolutionary dead end, plain and simple. The West is collapsing and this kind of reasoning doesn't help anything.
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>>74827667
>I'm better than you. You aren't living your life correctly. Stop having different views.
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>>74827738
Of course there is, you're consciously giving up. You could choose not to.
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>>74827638
Please have at least 5. Thanks.
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>>74827509
Who said you have to get married to have kids anyway? Again you just assume things wI'll end badly so they probably will.

A good parent will always be a child's primary source of learning. You only have to worry about the liberal brainwashing if you don't pay attention to your kids, if you listen to them and talk to them they will learn from you.

A lot of the times parents don't correct their kids when they are wrong too. They either want to shelter them from harsh realities or they are too concerned with self esteem bullshit.
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>>74827723
Anyone have that image of the steps that were outlined by some feminist or communist (like there's a difference) manifesto? It was very clear.
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>>74827779
You're free to live your life how you want to, I'm simply pointing out that people like you aren't good for maintaing a healthy, white society.
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>>74827500

There isn't a biological urge to reproduce. There is a biological urge for men to achieve orgasm. There is a difference.

I can nut inside a woman with my tubes cut so that no sperm are present, or I can nut inside her with her taking birth control pills. We have moved beyond "getting pregnant from sex" like animals. We can control our reproduction as human beings.

Why should I reproduce? I have a biological urge to orgasm which can be fulfilled without reproducing.

There is NO good reason to have children. It all boils down to a selfish reasons.
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>>74827739
>Falling for muh spooks meme makes you disassociated.
>Too much individualism leads to the extinction of the species.
>If you think only in yourself you're an evolutionary dead end, plain and simple.
You think I don't know that, monkey boy?

>The West is collapsing and this kind of reasoning doesn't help anything.
Fine by me, let it burn.
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>>74823742
Why are you friends with degenerate hedonistic blue-pilled normies?
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>>74827834
This?
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>>74827882
>There isn't a biological urge to reproduce.
Yes there is

>There is a biological urge for men to achieve orgasm
That is how you achieve reproduction.
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>>74827893
>Fine by me, let it burn.
wew lad
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>>74828057
Can't handle my edge? Heh, you ain't seen nothin' yet, kid...
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>>74828057
>my 1-5 white children will be the difference between the world burning and not burning
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>>74828005

>There isn't a biological urge to reproduce.
>Yes there is

Nope. Males want orgasm. That's what their biological needs dictate.

>There is a biological urge for men to achieve orgasm
>That is how you achieve reproduction.

For animals; not for human beings. Stupid animals have sex because it feels good and they have a biological urge for it. It just so happens to lead to sex. Animals don't understand that if they have sex they will pop out another animal in the future. They just live off instinct.

Human beings are different. We have separated orgasm from reproduction. I can have my tubes cut so that no sperm are present in my sperm and fuck as many women as I want. We operate at a higher level of thinking than animals.
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>genociding white people
>hard

OMG I LIKE WOULD NEVER HAVE KIDS, IT MIGHT INTURUPT MY FUN LOL WHO CARES IF EARTH BECOMES ONE GIANT AFRICA, AT LEAST I CAN WATCH NETFLIX AND MASTURBATE AND NOT HAVE TO EVER BE AN ADULT

out of everything thing you could possibly do, from voting anti-cuck parties your whole life, being a political activist, to arguing on a korean gardening website for years on end

the most important thing you should take away from pol is that you have to make at least 3 white kids to stop our respective western countries from becoming brazil
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>>74827129
Who the fuck is this guy?
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>>74827638
You should have your kids closer together bro so they all grow up together. The group makes them safer to because they look out for each other. Knock your woman up immediately. Also it's easier for her body to repair itself the younger she is.

I had 4 kids myself before I was 30. But we had ours in a cluster all close together. Few years were difficult but as they get older they practically raise themselves you just have to keep them on the right path and listen and talk to them. You lose your social life but hanging your girl and your kids is more fun and fulfilling than hanging it's a bunch of losers who are doing the same thing as kids anyway, collecting toys and playing video games and shit. Most of thes man children don't want children because they think it means they can remain a child. Parent is right of passage they try to prevent. The truth is even though you are young you're a man unlike them.

You're not a man until you are a father.
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>>74828197
>Nope. Males want orgasm.
Males want to orgasm BECAUSE of their urge to reproduce.

>>74828183
Giving up ensures the world burns

>>74828235
So much this.
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>>74828235
>a single person having 3 white children will keep the world white
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>>74828338
>Males want to orgasm BECAUSE of their urge to reproduce.
I don't know about you, but when I jerk off I sure as shit don't think about having kids.
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>>74827893
I feel sorry for you and the idiots who think like you.
Society is commiting suicide. But I still want to be alive when it happens to look at the faces of those who caused it.
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>>74828389
It's mostly not a conscious thing, lad
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>>74828400
Feel sorry for yourself, you're Brazilian.
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>>74823742
No benefit to the individual except for the ambitions of others
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>>74827500
>The point of life is the continuation of life. If you cannot fulfill the most basic biological urge, which is the urge to reproduce, then you've failed at the literally sole reason for your own existence.

damn sweden. why are those africans with 20 children more succesfully at life than you people then?
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>>74827796
Then why don't you go out and screw every white woman you can get in contact with if you are that concerned about the White Race?

Just don't come crying here when you have to pay child support for them.
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>>74828452
Not necessary. My principles guide me in this sea of chaos.
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OP it's literally brainwashing from the public school system and the electric jew.

White genocide is fucking real.
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>>74828389
You think about fucking a woman, the purpose of which is reproduction.
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>>74828632
Because Government support interferes with the r/K dynamics, that is also one of the biggest contributors to why kids are screwed up, a cradle to grave welfare state system.

If the government shut off the spigot of support to the Africans, shit would change and quick.
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>>74828698
No I don't.
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>>74823742
Are they atheists? Because statistically they have the lowest birth-rates
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>>74828183
The individual is to society what a cell is for the organism.
His children may not prevent the world from burning, but those ideologies propagate and only make it burn faster. Just like cancer.
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>>74828646
That's a very niggerish attitude. No, I already have 4 kids and I already pay money to support them because I am not a nigger who bails on his family. I also have nice woman to have sex with whenever I want. I don't run around town fucking loose whores and contracting stds because I am not a nigger. The problem isn't me. The problem is manchildren who lack responsibilities.

People who have no children shouldn't be allowed to vote since they have no stakes in the future of the planet.
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>>74828879
Ok. I really don't give a fuck.
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>>74828879
>western civilization is superior
>western civilization can be brought down by shitposting
Pick one.

Might makes right, the civilization that survives is by definition the best.
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>>74828743
Then you're a faggot and you shouldn't pass on your defective genes anyway.
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>>74823742
White women are complete trash and why would you want to make a child suffer in a country that's going to shit?
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>tfw 198cm 101kg physically fit green-eyed white person
>world is too shit to make kids in
>spectating the madness from the side of it
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>>74829333
>>74829356
Have kids you faggots. Your kids will almost certainly be better than any nig/sandig's kids.
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>>74829481
I would if I lived somewhere else but sweden and europe is only going to get worse.
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>>74823742
>Grandparents had 12 children
>parents had 5 children
>I have 0 children, already 1/4 of a century old

I bring shamefur dispray to my ancestors.
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>>74829031
>Might makes right, the civilization that survives is by definition the best.

Not really. Cancer can always kill the biggest, strongest and most intelligent person. Doesnt mean its the best or a good result does it?
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>>74829692
>cutting out the wizard stage
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>>74823742

Stop drinking the fluoride.
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The moral of the thread is you're not a man until you are a father.

Being a father doesn't mean knocking up a woman and the fleeing and complaining you have to pay money to support then and other people should do it for you.

Fatherhood means you are the primary figure of guidance for your children. Many of the young men in this thread didn't have fathers themselves so their lives turned out shitty and they became selfish manchildren who think they will be content with a life of masturbation and playing with children's toys.

That is a pathetic existence and if that is your plan you should save the time and just kill yourself now since your suicide is inevitable anyway.

Women aren't evil. They are just naive and they are born followers. The reason most of them believe in leftist faggotry is because they have been told that it's popular, but they have no ideas about it of their own, they just repeat what people have told them.

You shouldn't fear this because if you are a strong male with strong beliefs and don't carry on like a childish pussy, your gf or wife will follow you instead of liberal bullshit.

A strong man will be the primary guidance figure in his household. Households that fail are those that have been allowed to be run by women.

Be a man, get a woman, lead her, knock her up a bunch of times and be the head of household.

Otherwise you are just a whining little child and nobody will miss your kind because you are a loser.
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>>74829831
Best in the sense that it works, yes.
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>>74829481
It is true that more white kids would be a helping thing to the situation (Or the only way to fix it?) Redpilled kids with human IQ, the best.

Should move to north though, so the kid will learn how to love the purity of nature, and not the jew's way of destroying the purity. Jews want to make health expensive for some reason. There are also not so many nignogs there, since they don't like the north for some reason.

Now if I would do it, I just need to find high IQ woman who is redpilled/redpillable.
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>>74830003
REAL MAN
HARD JOB
WORK HOURS
MUH DIK

lmao cant wait for your wife to fuck a nigger
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>>74823742
You won't want to bring a clone of yourself into this world if you hate yourself.
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>>74830094
I've noticed a trend with you manchildren. Youre all obsessed with niggers.

This is clearly because you spend too much time watching porn and masturbating so you are insecure about the size of your penis. All that masturbation has psychologically damaged you. Probably physically as well.

This is why you don't seek a healthy sexual relationship with a woman.
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>>74830003
>Fatherhood means you are the primary figure of guidance for your children.

What if your wife/girlfriend leaves you and shares custody with the kid and she gets a new man?

You're simplifying things too much. A man can do everything right and still end up fucked.

That's part of what scares me about having kids. I would be tied to a woman. How do I know she won't divorce me? Man, now that I think about it, I was best friends with this kid when I was a child. He lived with his mom and often talked shit about his dad. Now that I think about it I recognize what was happening. His mom divorced his dad and told the kid a bunch of bullshit lies about him. "Your dad killed your pet. Your dad is a bad person. Etc."

I think the kid eventually started liking his dad because last I heard he switched back to his dad's surname instead of his stepfather's.
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>>74829031
>he doesn't know why one civilization is stronger than other

Don't be so simplistic, man.
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>>74830059
All women are redpillable as long as they respect you.

Never persue a relationship with a woman who doesn't respect you.

Also, don't get too hung up on intelligence of a woman. If you are smarter than her your children will be smarter than her too.
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YOURE MISUING THAT IMAGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>74830401
i'm fat and jerk off to mlp and also autistic and jewish
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Really two only logical reasons I can see for why people think like this:

1. Future doesn't look too bright. In first world countries, most people with a brain can see that they likely have no chance of ever fully owning a home, having a decent car, and still having some cash to spend. Wages are low, home prices are high, women are whores, alimony is a thing, etc. So many ways to get fucked and even more when you also add a few extra humans for you to be responsible for. Unless the tables turn, which seems unlikely, comfort in life is a lot easier without kids. This also sort of plays with the massive delusion that most people seem to think they are destined to be millionaires in their life when they are really just going to be wageslaves. The numbers just don't add up right now. You need two incomes to own a nice home and then you have to spend like 300k on a kid throughout their lifetime (that 1M number is complete bullshit and likely a jew psyop).

Which leads to my next theory...

2. Infinite youth complex. People today just don't rally seem to think they're ever going to get old. 30 is the new 20! And i'm not talking about getting to 60; I mean that 20 year olds seem to think they're going to be doing the same things they are now when they're 40. Young men seems to think they'll still be at a club every Friday/Saturday fucking skanks and getting bombed. They think anybody is going to care that they can finally afford a high end sportscar when they're 45. They think that the times will change and they won't be left in the dust. Until they wake up at 40 with a bald head and flabby stomach with only really odd fat divorcees interested in fucking them after the Viagra kicks in. By the time they all realize that it's just a cheap thrill it'll already be too late.

With that being said, I want to have at least 3 kids. Hopefully 5+

People saying the threat of demographic change are likely inaccurate. Not everyone thinks like a stormfag
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>>74830590
Why would you allow your woman to do that?

You are describing situations where the woman was allowed to be the head of the house.
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Daily reminder that getting married is for chumps

My girlfriend is pregnant with my twin sons right now and I've told her straight up multiple times that we will never be married. Only whites fall for this, and we need to stop. If its an ultimatum then she can walk; i'll just get some other girl pregnant and send the child support. Worrying about divorcerape isn't a threat when you don't put yourself in the situation. Glad I don't live in a common law marriage state
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>>74830590
Also, if a woman is divorcing you you haven't done everything right. You were most likely weak and allowed the woman to be the head of the household.

This is the leading cause of divorce. Weak men allow women to be the leader. The woman lacking in male guidance realises she doesn't need him and begins following liberal doctrine about strong womyn or some othe bullshit.

If a woman is divorcing you and able to brainwash your own kids against you it is because you became a beta to your woman and allowed her to alpha you.
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>>74831038
I did the same thing with my woman. Divorce probably wouldn't even be a problem for you anyway since you clearly know how to alpha on your woman.

But fuck it marriage is outdated and meaningless now anyway. Especially since the faggots have claimed it.
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>>74831342

Niggers don't fall for it, and all the brown masses have strict family structures that haven't deteriorated yet. It's literally only whites getting fucked by it over some beta Disney fantasy bullshit. I don't wanna have some big ceremony and take gay fucking pictures and have gay little pictures all over facebook during the entire engagement period. Marriage is literally the removal of your manhood. Shit makes me cringe whenever I imagine engaged couples. I redpill everyone I know on marriage as often as I can and I encourage everyone to do the same. I always wanted kids but never wanted to marry even before I knew about divorcerape. Any man who wants to get married I just ask them; why?
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>>74831038

Get a fucking job Greg
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>>74824741 how can you be so sure your kids will give two shits about you? They could very well end as jobless weebs beating their mother for bringing him them the wrong brand of cheetos.
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>>74832025

Tell based Greg we should hang out
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>>74831899
A man after my own heart. Agree 100%.

>>74832042
>how can you be so sure your kids will give two shits about you?
Be present.
Don't be a little bitch.

>They could very well end as jobless weebs beating their mother for bringing him them the wrong brand of cheetos.
>Allowing your own child to alpha on you.
Don't coddle shitty people. Force them to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. Punish them for being human garbage. If your wife disagrees with you punishing your child bend her over your knee and spank her instead. Do it in front of your child so they see what happens to those who question your authority.
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