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some sites offering their own poll results/trackers:
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-brexit-watch/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/05/britain-s-eu-referendum

Try to support your arguments for/against with the most current, cited information available please.
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>>74786772

Bumping for Brexit!
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>>74787238
noice, If you're in the US does that mean you can vote Trump, or is it only a temporary trip?
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>>74787705

Temporary trip. Ends on June 29th, too, so I can't vote either way. FUCK.
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>>74786772
>reasoned debate on my /pol/
>encouraging such things

You won't last long here m80boi.
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>>74786772
That pic kek
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>>74786772
Anyone have the Nigel with platform for UKIP?

Something akin to

>Fags for teenagers
>No fags for Johnny Foreigner
>More Wars
>Banter
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>>74786772
>https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
>6 consecutive polls for remain

One month left for the EU to fuck something new up or we're stuck with it for good.
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>>74786772
So the Swissposter is confirmed to just be a single shitposter like the eternal Turkroach, then?
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How many survivors will there be lads?
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>>74788040
They put a ban of pack of 10 fags and menthols yesterday. That would piss of millions but the media has been quiet on it surprisingly...
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>>74786772
Good luck mates.
Remember, If polls existed in ancient times, Jesus would have kept being a carpenter.
Never lose hope
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>>74788142
It will be us and the dutch. It will be extremely painful for the rest
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>>74788270
That was actually very inspirational
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>>74788153
It needs to be much worse than that to swing it nearly 10%.
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>>74788142
They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother.
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>>74787797
If you have family within the UK you can get them to vote by proxy, or even register as an overseas vote I think.

More information here lad: http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register-to-vote/british-citizens-living-abroad
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800;000 foreign workers applied for national insurance numbers last year in Britain and it rises every year
That's 800,000 people taking jobs and benefits from the British people

They come to the UK and get paid significantly higher and go back home having much more money than their locals.
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>>74788487

Yeah, I looked into this, and it's not going to be possible. I have until june 5th for them to send me a letter, for me to send one back, for them to send one to my proxy, and for my proxy to send one back. Then they send one to me.

Totally not feasible. And they fucking know it.
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>>74788352
Well Euro 2016 is coming up, i'm sure ISIS are gonna ruin that for everyone
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1/2

Remaining in this unaccountable fascist dictatorship is the the most cowardly & disastrous act of ignorance anyone could ever commit. Europe is heading inexorably for civil war across the continent well within 5 years, as indigenous populations begin to rise up in protest at being ethnically cleansed from their own countries by mass uncontrolled immigration. By destroying national borders, the EU elite & treacherous self serving national governments, have made life intolerable for entire populations of people who don't happen to be self sufficient multi millionaires who can emigrate to safe democratic countries, or who aren't sufficiently rich to live in enclaves where economic migrants will never congregate. By allowing millions of people from militant Islamic countries to mass within all countries of the EU, the destruction of Western civilization is now assured. There is no way back now, Europe cannot survive. IS terrorists cannot believe how easy it has been to infiltrate & begin the inevitable process of destroying & conquering the West due to the delusion of left wing imbeciles, who believe that integration, capitulation & appeasement is the way to placate & unravel centuries of religious brainwashing. The process of richer EU countries being forced to hand over larger & larger amounts of taxpayers money to bail out the economic basket cases, & being forced to borrow money themselves in order to do it because of economic stagnation due to EU protectionism & spurious regulation, will inevitably lead to economic collapse of the entire EU. The EU has lead to loss of national identities, cultures, & the erosion of previously civilized societies, as the uncontrolled influx of uncivilized & backwards cultures are allowed to pour in unchecked, without the necessity of any quality criteria whatever.
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>>74788830
2/2

Many either from Eastern bloc ex communist countries, whose national average salaries are 9 times less than our own, or from religious cultures who not only prefer, but who insist vehemently, that we all regress to 7th century dogma. Voting to remain is this moribund sclerotic thief of democracy & economic success, is no less than a commitment to national suicide & civil war. It is equivalent to religious belief, in that it elevates faith, wishful thinking & confirmation bias over reason, intelligence & evidence. In my view, surrendering our democratic power to hold our governing bodies to account, & renouncing our national ability to control our own borders by suspending all critical faculties to the smoke, mirrors & propaganda of the political elite, is to commit treason. In 1940, David Cameron would have been taken to the gallows for selling out his country.?
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>>74788736
>tfw live in Toulouse
sheeeeiiiiiiiit
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The reason why the EU is in recession is because everything is over-priced, over-protected and therefore rendered internationally uncompetitive, the EU has allowed the manufacture of German cars that have been proved to be in violation of its own emission laws, but nothing happens to them, in the meantime, the fishing industry, the sugar refining industry to name but two, have been decimated in the UK which paid £13billion to the EU in 2015, and got back a whopping £4.5billion in return, could you explain how does that help the UK? The UK has come out of recession but almost a third of Europe is still in one, so again could you explain to me how staying in the EU helps the UK in anyway? Why is it that the UK cannot make its own trade agreements with India and China where the economies are positively booming in comparison to the EU's continuing flatlining?
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>>74788905

Off to Marseilles next month :)
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>>74788830
>left wing imbeciles, who believe that integration, capitulation & appeasement is the way to placate & unravel centuries of religious brainwashing

Based anon
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The 28 commissioners do not represent their 28 countries. They represent the European Union, they swear an oath upon taking on their role. They are from the member states but once a member of the commission their loyalty cannot be to their member states. They cannot be voted out individually, the MEPs can only vote to reject or accept the whole commission. They've never voted to reject the commission.
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newfag here

I want to know how you filter an individual.

I have OCD, so filtering some swiss cheese breath will literally make me think that we will leave the EU, maybe.

My OCD is so bad, that I have to re walk through doors, just because I had unpleasant thoughts on mind.

I also have to do things like re open or re touch things, maybe even re walk up an entire Road.

I also shout "oh THAT fucking number" when seeing the number 13 while looking at the time. I shout "thanks for letting miss THAT number" when the time happens to be 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 or 16 past the hour. And point at the sky/ceiling/God when doing so.
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>>74788040
You do make a good point. I'm trying to find the article covering the polls though. Whilst it's not solid it notices how there have been student majorities voting in all of these polls and how that may sqew the vote a fair bit.

Also the actual vote is during Glastonbury.

Captcha: Images with tea.
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Brits want to trade with the World, we want diversity and competitive industry and welcome those who contribute to British Society/Culture with skills and knowledge. We don't want Corporate bully boys with their heads up their collective backsides feathering their own nests and dictating our work practices by lowering wages and destroying our industries, making millions from free carbon credits, and selling them onto others, (British Steel Industry, TATA)
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>Cameron's years of friendly rhetoric towards Turkey come back to bite him in the arse
>EU can't rule anything out because Turkey has them by the balls

Truly it's beautiful lads
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>>74789145
It's also not a regular election that the polling organisations are familiar with, so the polls could easily be off by a few points.
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Apparently voting out because David Cameron is shilling for staying in is a thing on the left.
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>>74789335
That's going to be offset by all the celebrities who recently started pushing for remain.
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>>74786772
>brexit happens
>all shitskins leave
>British India is once again
>Africa is colonized
>Canada, Australia, New Zealand come home to mama
>Leyland make their stellar cars again
>BBC World Service is mandatory to listen to for all Commonwealth countries
>Porn is now pic related
>Rule Brittania
>Bovril is 50% off
this is what brexitfags actually believe
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>>74786772
Collectivism kills, destroy all unions and establish proper republics. America once was a republic, we are now, at best a faux-democracy controlled by an international plutocratic elite, made up of corporate elites, high finance and banking officials and international pressure groups, You either have a country or you don't, the states exist within the Union, but nobody gives a fuck about Montana other than some people in Montana, the same fate, applied to long-standing European nations can only lead to the destruction of familiar traditional culture, replaced only by federal mandates and a furthering of consumer culture to obfuscate the mere reality that, you have no identity other than that which given. Reclaim your countries or slip into the inevitability of decline and irrelevance.
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>>74786772
Holy shit my sides are reaching orbit

You really made it
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>>74789308
The polls in britain are always off. Especially forones like this. If people come out in favour of leaving because of immigration they have to put up with muh racism shit, which is why a lot don't answer.
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>>74788045
>So the Swissposter is confirmed to just be a single shitposter like the eternal Turkroach, then?
I have an actual question.

If I do filter Swissbro on one thread, will he be filtered from most threads?
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>>74786772

UK u need to stay in EU.

Its the best for u :^)
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>>74789996
No, IDs change in every thread.

>>74790114
Bro you're right
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>>74789335
>The left brings us out through sheer mirth

That's like history repeating itself.
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>>74789996
Unfortunately not, unless they get a trip-code and you filter that.

But no, you have to filter the individual ID each thread, but it's posts are easily recognizable often ending in 'your Autistic' and with filenames like in OP image.
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>>74789951
The shy tory effect will be a thing here, but it's unlikely to cause a big enough swing, and it's also going to be offset by people pussying out on the day of the vote.
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>>74789951
This, everyone I know is voting out, but when asked in public they get offended, its almost as if asking political opinions is rude.
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>>74790233
>pussying out
I direct you towards the MEP elections, massive UKIP turn out swinged the vote.
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>>74790278
The Austrians also said "everyone I vote is for Hofer". Now it's 50 / 50.

What people you know is as meaningless as polls.

The majority is standing behind the government and the EU and thus votes STAY.
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The Brexit movie segment about Switzerland was very misleading and shouldn't be taken very seriously. Leaving the EU won't make you as rich as us. Switzerland is pretty much part of the EU because of the bilateral agreements, which suck more than anyone here will want to admit.
You guys still need to Brexit, though. The freedom alone is worth it.
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>>74790359
Most voters don't give a shit about the EU elections nor their effects, especially when their elected MEPs practically go into a black hole. So it wasn't in the least bit surprising that UKIP got a huge share of the vote.
This referendum is completely different. It's a one-off vote which will have effects lasting for decades.
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I wonder if voting leave will decrease tariffs with Japan.

Or increase them?

This may decide who I vote for
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>>74790646
This is true desu
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>>74790174
Owen Jones shilling for ISIS?
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>>74790750
There is no reason it would increase them.
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>>74790646
>MEI nid umgsetzt wölls ede EU nid passt
>automatischi Rechtsübernahm vode EU
>alli Entscheid ide Politik dreie sich drum, was d'EU devo haltet
>"muh schwiz master rasse zum glück send mer ned ede EU"

:^)
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>>74790782
Owen Jones being a massive cuck and talking shit as usual. The EU has made it abundantly clear that it's not going to reform itself.
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>>74790174
Just last year Owen was talking about whethere Britain should leave the Eu after the way Greece got raped, now he's shilling the opposite way. Wonder what his equivalent of 30 pieces of silver was
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>>74790951
Sorry Ueli, I don't understand all the bourbine runes yet.
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>>74790750
We can't negotiate Trade deals with any country outside of the EU for ourselves. That and the EU has not been able to come up with any half decent trade deals in it's time either.

There's nothing to say we could get a better deal, but at least we;d have the option to start negotiations. Also It couldn't get any worse than trading with the EU, it's like rock bottom.

Imagine getting packages without any customs fees now lad.
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>>74786772
Reminder that leaving the EU will cause your country to decline into a third world as explicitly stated by many economist such as you.
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>>74791059
>Wonder what his equivalent of 30 pieces of silver was

The left has clamped down hard on this, even managing to slap Corbyn in line. If he goes against the narrative, he loses all his Guardian columns and book promotions.
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>>74791350
when we weren't in the EU we owned a third of the world

prepare your anuses :^)
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>>74791350
You are right. So many educated people are against it, but these guys here just don't want to accept it.

Even if they magically vote for a Brexit, it would take at least 5 years to leave the EU.
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>>74791579

>writhing hands
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Interesting watch for the anons with too much free time. It's the select committee grilling Osborne over his facts and figures.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07f6mjd/select-committees-costs-and-benefits-of-eu-membership-committee

Basically they interrogate his figures etc. and I always enjoy watching our politicians and representatives squirm and lie through their teeth.
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>>74791579
>lose control of your borders and have regulations handed down to you by a completely incompetent and unaccountable political body based in another country
>or it might cost you some money
>this threat is actually working

And this is why the country is fucked.
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>>74792006
>>lose control of your borders
How do you lose control of your borders if you are not part of Schengen-Dublin?

> have regulations handed down to you
Regulations passed by a parliament which the British people and other countries elected
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>>74792006
The idea is to ignore/filter them out m8. That is the poster from the OP image and it lives off destabilizing the (You) economy. Starve it of attention and it will die.
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>>74792237
I know, I should know better. His reply is borderline bait.
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>>74792176

>How do you lose control of your borders if you are not part of Schengen-Dublin?

We're obliged to let anyone with an EU passport in.
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>>74792500
not to mention when the EU starts passing rapefugee quotas
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>>74792006
If it weren't for the EU, you UKucks would still be delivering devices without electrical plugs.
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>>74793201

If it wasn't for the EU we might still be making devices that could use an electrical plug.
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>>74793287
The EU isn't at fault for this. It's the same in the whole of Europe and the US... it's a few cents cheaper to produce low quality crap in Chinkland, so they do.
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>>74786772
Really losing my respect for swiss faggots since i admire their country so much.They really show that you don't need to be in EU to accomplish shit.(which is kind of ironic)

And hopefully u guys should leave the EU and focus on the international markets
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>>74793512
The UK's economy is focussed primarily around services, you know like banking, telecoms etc. Alot of these things are done online which you would think is good because that means our business can reach far and wide across the world without tarrifs or taxation.
Unfortunately the EU has not agreed trade deals with America, China, India and such so we can't have Tariff free trade, we are locked into EU trade.

However this doesn't mean we do not trade, America is our largest trading partner it just means that there are still tarrifs and shit on top of that business for all parties involved.
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>>74793702
It's one Swiss faggot friend. They do not represent the entirety of Switzerland or their views.
That's why it's better to filter out the individual so other Swiss citizens that genuinely want to contribute to the debate can do so without worry.
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>>74789796
Filtered.
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>>74795824
Thank you
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Public notice, public notice: Do not ever get hyped about anything related to Britian, Doing the Brexit would mean they´re a relevant country - Which they clearly aren´t.

Watch the cucks vote to stay in the EU
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Came here just to post a pic I made.
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>>74789251
Conservatives
>Clearly one with the force

Labour
>Pic related

Who would YOU rather have run the country?
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>>74790646
But your politicians and populace were able to negotiate those agreements.

The UK populace gets no say in what the EU decides to legislate. They could be deciding what color lube to use to rape Britons, and all Farage or anyone sitting at the table at the EU could do is protest to deaf ears.
>>We do not wish to be raped
>That is not what this legislation is about, it's on the color of lube
>>But we do not wish to be raped
>So no lube?
The fact that the UK is even getting a say in staying or leaving should resonate, since they'll never get a say in any other EU legislation afterwards if they stay, but can negotiate deals if they leave.
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>referendum
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>>74788270
Wait I may be retarded, what do you mean by this?
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>>74797038
trump
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Get out of that shitty EU, you don't need them, you will always have your loyal commonwealth :^)
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>>74797196
>But your politicians and populace were able to negotiate those agreements.
Yes, kind of, but in return the EU can force their policies on us through the bilateral ways and threaten to break the agreements if we refuse them (or even when we vote in a way they don't like), which would be a disaster for our industry. (almost 50% of our exports are to the EU, and all other exports have to pass through the EU before reaching their destination since we're surrounded).
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>>74790646
>>74790174
>do as I say not as I do
shoo Mountain Jew shoo
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>>74798651
Same, I enjoyment of bantz is equal to my hatred for shills

>>74786772
Great pic
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>>74798776
>I have reading comprehension issues: the post
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