Are there any young earth creationists on /pol/? Im legitimately interested in learning your arguments and evidence. What is the biggest evidence you have?
> Im legitimately interested in learning your arguments and evidence.
One of my main concerns regarding Old Earth THEORIES is the lack of certain elements when the atmosphere/litosphere should be full of it. Helium for example. The radioactive decay of several elements produces helium, which migrates to the atmosphere. There is too little helium in the atmosphere to account for the amount that would have been produced in 4.5 billion years. Escape of helium into space is not sufficient to account for the lack.
>>74772546
>Escape of helium into space is not sufficient to account for the lack.
Why
>>74771939
The bible
>>74771939
Muh book said so
>>74772817
A fucking leaf
>>74772901
Is this what /pol/ turned into? An anti Christian tranny supporting gay rights far left board?
>>74773337
>He isn`t redpilled on the religious jew
Of course; /pol/ is a Christian board. If you're not a young earth creationist you're a fedora tipping fat autistic neckbeard nerd loser.
>>74773714
This is what makes Christianity weak, the rejection of the bible. The bible is the truth nothing in it is false yet Christians even the most strict believers will say this is meant to be an allegory and so on this weakens our religion. If one part isn't true then why would any other part be true?
The whole of the bible is nothing but fact this is the true red pill
>>74771939
Pray the Lords prayer in Matthew 6:9-18 and ask Jesus Christ to show you and repent your sins, and mean it from your heart.
Afshin Javid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2-L1KIU7lao
Ian MacCormack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CsbQeCYJ0Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1-ezZ9hkD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WLoc1yDYzlo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HbTAmN4m2lQ
Bill Wiese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoYCUtIRP30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G13ArSGr4es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7rQow8NzZo Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX3Ow_VEkuM Part 2
Tamara Laroux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HGQDkCi-OIY
Mickey Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xRSjzY0s0SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s66DchGhhD0
Howard Storm Atheist Professor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8vj0qKthCgg
Atheist Dr. Donald Whitaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X54dYbfCSR4
A dying mans last message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TeE2xg3REtA
Ex-satanist confession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6l7A4cQHxuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZOj76xrG62k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BY6xD4dl1x8
Ugandan Pastor Shocked he would not enter Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nnM_NtZfQTM
Orthodox Priests in a cave monastery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FcvPDNz9xHo
>>74771939
>What is the biggest evidence you have?
Not knowing what carbon dating is
Damn. If I wasn't on my laptop I could have dumped a whole bunch of pics for you, OP.
I find this stuff fascinating too.
>>74774199
Hold up
So /pol/ will say scientists are wrong about all races being equal
But will believe scientists when they "prove" Christianity wrong?
>>74771939
I'm a young earth evolutionist.
I cannot deny creationism simply because I was not there to witness the beginnings of the Earth, and it is surprisingly easy to drastically misinterpret things, be it social customs in other countries or physical things such as carbon dating. And, on top of this, I also fail to reject God. Scientists attempt to prove or disprove God, but this is broken because science is physical and empirical in its entirety, yet the concept of God transcends what is physical and empirical, so it follows that trying to find God through objective physical and empirical means will not work.
There are so few answers to creationism that can be verified by physical tests that it is rendered more believable to me than what is physical because what is physical can be repeatedly refuted given the proper evidence.
>>74771939
That's a protestant meme. /pol/ is an Apostolic board.
>>74774318
/thread
>>74775045
How is the bible a Protestant meme?
>>74774318
>scientists are wrong about all races being equal
No real scientist, a biologist or anthropologist not psychologist or sociologer, would ever say this.
>>74775209
Catholics don't follow the bible
>>74775209
Taking the 6 day creation literally is sola scriptura, which is a protestant meme. None of the Church Fathers believed in a literal 6 day creation.
>>74775361
I think 90% of Christians these days don't follow the bible
>>74775375
It literally says in the first pages of the bible the earth was crated in 6 days. It doesn't matter what denomination you are if you are a Christian you should believe the bible
>>74771939
A lot of creationist secular argumentation comes from contradiction against Old Earth.
>>74772546
It's no surprise that we mine the vast vast majority of our helium underground as helium gas gets trapped inside rocks. But that's besides the point, uv radiation can ionize helium creating polar winds which allow it to become light enough to escape along the open lines of the Earth's magnetic field.
>>74775808
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
>>74776115
That sounds like Satan talk to me
>>74776130
Yes? But it didn't say it was one day for God it just says one day. When it says Noah lived for 900 years was he actually a million years old?
>>74776130
This desu senpai
People so quick to ignore the full scripture to shill against the bible as something unbelievable.
BASIC INSTRUCTION BEFORE LEAVING EARTH
Everyone should read the full texts even if an atheist.
>>74776306
Noah isn't God you fool.
With the Lord one day = a thousand years.
>>74776306
Is Noah God? Was God writing about Noah or was Moses writing about Noah?
>>74776276
The OP asks for evidence for creationism yet the vast majority of the posts in this thread so far has been spiritual proofs in favor of God and not scientific proofs for creationism. Creationism tends to rely more on spiritual proofs rather than physically empirical evidence.
>>74776319
You realize that many of the non-relgious were raised as christian, read the bible and decided it was bullshit right?
I asked in another thread but got no replies. Can someone explain Jeremiah 32:35 for me?
>>74776448
>And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Literally on the first page
>>74771939
Yes. Life cannot come from nothing.
>>74776563
Yeah I know that's one of the reasons I find creationism so fascinating. The amount of mental gymnastics they use to try and prove their "theories" is hilarious.
>>74776563
Of course man, people who believe in magic tales of creation aren't known for their knowledge of science.
>>74771939
you need to learn its wrong.
>>74776641
>Literally
There's your first problem. Taking the bible only literally while ignoring the allegorical and spiritual meaning is kike-tier.
>>74776692
Right and the bing bang theory requires no amount of mental gymnastics.
I've been hired to plant fossils to fool silly goys like you.
Hah
>There are no errors in carbon dating whatsoever
Silly goys! Enjoy hell, as we rule as your overlords!!!!
>>74776947
This is ridiculous, so the bible isn't fact? That means there's no God, no Jesus, what's the point of being a Christian then? Just to go to church and find a wife? This is why Islam dominates because Christians don't care about their own religion they've lost their faith and can't justify their religion because they themselves don't even believe it.
>>74776597
It certainly is true that the majority of the children of Christians in the 1st world has stopped going to church and reject the religion. I for example went to a private independent Baptist school and my faith waivered after long debates on both the philosophical and scientific side of the faith.
>>74777001
Pfft everyone knows Satan was the one who planted fossils in the ground. Don't try and take credit for His work.
>>74777158
Nobody denies the existence of dinosaurs
>>74771939
God lives outside of time.
>>74777290
Some denominations do.
>>74777290
Oh I'm sure there are people who do.
>>74777074
Do you read the parables only literally or do they have a higher meaning? Do you read the psalms and proverbs literally? Go cut your foreskin off or just become a Muslim if you want to take all of the scripture literally while ignoring all spiritual meaning. You don't know what it means to be a Christian if you can't understand allegorical writings.
>>74771939
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
Work your way through the first list of videos.
>>74777520
No other topic makes people use videos rather than their own knowledge and intelligence more than explaining to Christians that magic isn't real. It's so fucking telling.
>>74777413
>>74777428
Well they're wrong, they obviously existed just they died in the flood.
>>74777512
Circumcision the biblical way does not involve removing the entire foreskin, this is mutilation circumcision is just the tip of the foreskin. And besides God only commanded the Israelites do this because he wanted proof of their devotion to him, remember back then there were many horrible cults and religion practicing infanticide, animal and virgin sacrifices God did not want any of that but he needed proof from the Israelites that they were devoted to God.
Besides, it says in Galatians 5:2 "behold, I Paul say unto you if you are circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing"
>>74777074
Don't listen to Catholics and sadly 90% of Christians. The Bible is absolutely the foundation of our faith and all the evidence is in the world and in the sky. God created everything and I gave a link to a lot of videos at pastebin.
A lot of "Christians" don't want to even bother trying to refute evolution even though its full of holes.
>>74777721
I've done it before but I've just gotten trolled by "hurr you're so stuupid" without anyone checking out what I posted.
>>74777882
Holy shit you are dense and missed the point, although I don't know how much common sense I expected given the topic at hand.
>>74777927
Genesis is a fairy tale. It states that the oceans and wind existed before the sun and the land, which were then created. It's so fucking obviously made by ancient people trying to answer the biggest questions and failing.
It's a fairy tale, we know how the Earth and sun were created and none of it requires fucking magic. I'd love to see you try to explain your reasoning.
>>74778247
God can literally do anything he wants, if he wants light without the sun he will make light without sun. We can't comprehend this because we are humans we don't understand the powers God has
>>74771939
People that are religious but reject truth for their peer-pressured view on existence are on the level of jihadis and degenerates, since an abject rejection of reality and with it, god's creation is the foundation of their twisted ideologies.
The earth is older than shitty desert jews claim it to be. Deal with it.
>>74778442
But we don't have any physical proof of that besides the words of the Bible which is insufficient as physical evidence for such. Just no empirical evidence of the supernatural.
>>74778400
Oh so I suppose Yeshua Christ referring to it as actual history was just an accident and his lineage going back to Adam and Eve was just another accident too.
Are you calling God and his Prophets liars?
>>74778627
The fact that you even exist should be proof enough, what do the most well respected scientists in the world believe? There's an explosion and life happened! Well, go make an explosion in your backyard and maybe you'll create a new species
>>74778442
Then explain Jeremiah 32:35
>They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin
>nor did it enter my mind
Does God usually not consider things?
>>74778845
God is inherently Good. He does not consider evil a good commandment to give. You're misunderstanding middle english.
>>74778651
>Are you calling God and his Prophets liars?
Considering they couldn't even keep what colour robes were put on Jesus consistent I'm going to say yes.
>>74771939
Evolution is confirmed by low IQ peasants.
>>74779026
He knew it was a possibility though
>>74779141
Certainly. A necessary one, even, given His taste for freedom.
>>74778651
>Are you calling God and his Prophets liars?
They ARE liars/
>>74778813
>Explosion
>>74779214
I hope you're saying that in ignorance.
>>74774318
>But will believe scientists when they "prove" Christianity wrong?
Actually they're proving Christianity right
Especially with "meme magic"
And the programmer god theory.
>>74778442
It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.[17]
With the scriptures it is a matter of treating about the faith. For that reason, as I have noted repeatedly, if anyone, not understanding the mode of divine eloquence, should find something about these matters [about the physical universe] in our books, or hear of the same from those books, of such a kind that it seems to be at variance with the perceptions of his own rational faculties, let him believe that these other things are in no way necessary to the admonitions or accounts or predictions of the scriptures. In short, it must be said that our authors knew the truth about the nature of the skies, but it was not the intention of the Spirit of God, who spoke through them, to teach men anything that would not be of use to them for their salvation
St. Augustine
>>74777370
In this universe - yes.
>>74778845
Are you saying he should have known this? He allows us all freedom, sometimes we go against what he wants for us or expected of us very many people unfortunately go against his word
>>74779296
Can you explain what the Big Bang was then?
>>74778651
He was real, he wasn;t magic. I'm talking about genesis. Genesis is a fucking fairy tale that gets the story of Earth's creation wrong even in a metaphorical sense. The timeline is absolute nonsense and is exactly what you would expect a Roman era dirt farmer to think about the world.
>>74779462
>Are you saying he should have known this
Uhh...yes. He's supposed to be God.
>>74779517
Thats when the universe started to expand
>>74771939
>the biggest evidence you have
The bible.
The other evidence just supports it, for example radiocarbon dating not being accurate, etc.
>>74778627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0QDc7baQfk
I reaallly didn't want to post this but people keep saying the supernatural doesn't exist. Its on your own hands if you choose to follow evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMkMBXAVZ8
This is a basic intro to creation although there is a lot more out there. I have to go now. God speed.
>>74779526
Its a hell of a lot more interesting than anything in the New Testament though. Barring Revelations.
>>74779831
Only because it has some references to Atlantis and the global flood caused by the younger dryas impact.
I'm a young-earth creationist, Adventist Protestant.
I like the way this pastor makes sense out of it, he has several good arguments for pro-creationist belief.
Walter Veith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJH7A5NHT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9hQKD0vceQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxiOSsI-mzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ni9kYzqWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeCtex9SJaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaE3MIRcrGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_-4UagW4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWXQlNSyMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgfA7Cw0oD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leeS3I_jNGo
>>74780053
As adventists we base our belief on Sola Scriptura, AKA only the Bible.
>>74779635
Yeah I agree, he would have known but maybe he didn't expect it? Don't you usually expect better from your children?
>>74779686
What caused it to expand? Did the universe one day just decide it should start expanding
>>74780307
He still would have known it was going to happen. Maybe he thought they'd make the right decision.
But if he's God then he already knew what decision they were going to make which means he knew that all the sacrificing was going to happen
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>>74780307
Im not a physicist i cant give you an answer as to why, but since the universe is expanding it had to start somewhere
>>74780307
I believe that God knew all of that would happen beforehand. He is God, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
There is no reason for sin. Because sin is irrational. God knows this. Sin has no reason to exist but it exists anyhow. God didn't invent sin nor did he wish for it to fall upon us, but he knows that at some point it will come to existence.
Ellen G. White writes about it with wonderful insight.
http://www.whiteestate.org/books/gc/gc29.html
https://text.egwwritings.org/publication.php?pubtype=Book&bookCode=HF&pagenumber=304
>>74780307
>What caused it to expand? Did the universe one day just decide it should start expanding
>The universe can make decisions
It's called the Singularity. CERN is working on how and why.
>>74780146
From the time of Adam until that of Abraham, according to the old chronologies, 3,678 years passed, and if we add 430 years when the Israelites remained in Egypt, we have 4,108 years. Throughout this period of time Holy Scripture neither existed nor was the Sabbath considered as a feast among the people. During this period of many thousands of years the faithful and chosen people were guided to the path of salvation only by Holy Tradition, namely, from the teachings about God which they received from a living voice. Only for the duration of 1400 years - from the time of Moses until the advent of Christ - were they guided by the Holy Scriptures of the Old Testament.
Young earth creationism is almost worse than flat earth
>>74774002
You turned your brain off, bro.
Don't do that.
>>74780053
Please summarise your points, don't link to hour long videos if you want to make an argument.
>>74777927
What holes is evolution full of? Most people who truly look at the evidence don't refute it because it's overwhelming.
Your failure to understand the evidence doesn't mean it has "holes."
>>74780307
>>74780828
Asking what happened before the singularity is physically nonsense, time does not really exist at a singularity, time dilates to become infinitely long.
>>74777927
>refute evolution even though its full of holes.
Except it's not. If you accept that genes mutate and that a mutation that helps a creature survive longer on average will mean that gene propagates itself more easily (through reproduction) then you have to accept some form of natural selection.
>>74781891
>Asking what happened before the singularity is physically nonsense, time does not really exist at a singularity, time dilates to become infinitely long.
This isn't true. We don't know what caused the singularity in the first place. Infinity is also a fantastical concept, a cop-out word. Basically a "God of the gaps" argument.
>>74779738
>botany, zoology
>biology: mitochondrial dna, tree rings, adaptation
>cosmology: stars, physics
>geology: fossil distribution, strata analysis, the grand Canyon
All of this and more refute literal creationism. Face it. Every day you have to try harder to deny facts to support you cognitive dissonance.
>>74771939
When God made Adam and Eve, He didn't make two embryos. When God made a chicken, He didn't make an egg. He made His creation mature to some degree. The same goes for the earth, so evolutionists and creationists wrong and right at the same time.
>>74782171
I know, but the mathematics of general relativity gives you infinite time scales at a point of infinite density. (And also travelling at the speed of light, photons don't experience time as we know it).
The problem is infinite values make no sense physically even if we know they exist (eg a black hole).
>>74782502
How do you know all this?
>>74779738
>radiocarbon dating not being accurate
Most fossils are dated through uranium dating or other elements, carbon dating is only good back a few 10s of thousands of years at most.
>>74782103
natural selection within the species is generally not contested, it's the alleged species-to-species jumps that raise issues.
>>74782889
>it's the alleged species-to-species jumps that raise issues.
>small changes over a large period of time never amounts to one species changing into another over the course of a millenia
>all species have always looked the same
>>74782889
So they deny that two populations of species physically separated can have small changes in different ways due to differing selection pressures? And that these changes can build up until the two populations cannot interbreed successfully any longer? Because then you have speciation.
>>74782644
I don't think a black hole doesn't have an infinite value. Our math isn't perfect.
>>74783257
>I don't think a black hole doesn't have an infinite value. Our math isn't perfect.
Well yes, that's the thing, the mathematical model predicts a singularity at the centre, but the event horizon acts are a surface that prevents anything inside having causal effect on the outside universe, so the singularity, even if it does exist can never be observed or effect the universe we inhabit.
>>74775361
practically nobody does.
spoiler: sabbath is not saturday. biblical sabbath is based on both lunar and solar calendars. a luni-solar sabbath happens every 7 days after each new moon, which is also the first sabbath of each month.
>>74778247
>one guy doubts the sumerian genesis present in the bible as being literal.
>second guy is so simple minded he doesn't question anything, but blindly runs into it like a true goy.
>all the while everything from genesis 1 until abraham leaving sumeria was rephrased sumerian tablets.
>if you look at them allegorically, you'll see the whole garden of eden parable as the moment when mankind lost its divine/angelic form of pure light and after a brief period of being "naked" with no body of energy, just an empty spirit, became trapped by el in the fleshy form of beasts, animal skins, the mark of a wild beast, which is also shared by mankind.
>physically that can be interpreted as the moment anu-created slave race of humanity stopped being mindless animal-like slaves and gained consciousness, their eyes were opened and they realized just how fucked they were by their annunaki gods.
>>74777428
the dinosaurs were the previous density's dominant life forms, like our mammals.
they had their top of the line intelligent beings too. reptilians/annunaki who were that moment's humans.
that is where satan (el) and his people were created in. that's also why he's often portrayed as scaly. not because hurr devil. because satan was a reptilian annunaki.
then through bible corruption during babylon times he replaced the original revealed god and revelations of love and unity were replaced with ones of hatred, jealousy and pride, and that's how he deceived the whole world.
>>74776947
>I can't understand God's Word so I won't believe the Bible itself even though I profess it's the world of God.
Christian "faith" personified. No wonder you abolished every single commandment and remained with new-agey "spiritual" bullshit and the only parts of the Bible you believe in are the ridiculous addins you've stolen from the Greeko-Roman pantheon about Zeus impregnating random mortal females.
>inb4 Muh Jeebus died for our sins!
Your Jeebus was literally a product of adulterous, interracial cuckery. Fact.
>>74772684
because jesus
>>74787370
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>>74777001
>Right and the bing bang theory requires no amount of mental gymnastics.
You wouldn't be asking that if you knew anything about the big bang theory. Everything is moving away from everything else, therefore things must have been closer to one another in the past. Simple logic.
