PRO GUN IDIOTS UTTERLY AND LITERALLY BTFO
>>74722969
>Politico
>>74722969
>>74722969
Venezuela
>>74722969
>source: politico
SHALL
>>74723063
>>74723123
>Facts aren't facts if I don't like the source
>politco
Even if that statistic was true, fuck those 1,584 people that used guns to save themselves/their families though right?
>>74722969
Gives a number but not a time frame. This shit is stupid subversive trash.
>>74722969
>politico
>only citation
>>74723093
OP UTTERLY AND LITERALLY BTFO
>>74723171
>facts
>>74722969
Wow
I can't believe that I've been so deceived...
I am now a #Cubanmissilecrisis
Thanks OP, a real eye opener you've got there
>>74723207
>Ausfailia
>>74723289
>Amerifat
>>74723171
This poster >>74723093
Has 19 sources proving you wrong. Are you going to admit you're wrong then?
>>74723180
post the gun homicide rate yo
>>74723171
I wish I could be a dumb as bricks american.
It sounds easy as fuck.
>>74723327
this one?
>>74723308
>Pot calling the kettle black
>>74723093
noice
>>74723171
Of the sourse isn't trust worthy, then yes, people will doubt.
Give us a trust-worthy sourse and we will belive you.
Unless you don't have one and then please fuck a taser with your mouth.
hide all btfo threads
>>74723308
>>74723380
You needn't concern yourselves with this topic, kangaroo fuckers.
>>74723093
>>74723180
>>74723387
Your move Shilldog.
>>74722969
The number of DGU's isn't really important. Even if there were 0 DGU's that's not the point of the 2nd ammendment so this is really just a random number with no argument.
>>74723521
You needn't concern yourselves with intelligence, Amerifat
How much less likely are you to commit a crime knowing anyone in public could be carrying a armed weapon legally? Guns 1 - Crybabies 0
>this is what gun nuts want for America
>>74723171
>OP has the smallest dick in human history
>source: Me
Whelp, it's got a source so it must be true.
>>74723612
mirin' massive pecs and broad delts
>>74722969
How many of the killers were non-white?
>>74723387
Is that the poll that includes suicides on the death numbers?
>>74723653
>tfw LD652 still passed and Maine is still best state
>>74723653
If it were up to me, people wouldn't need a driver's license either.
>>74723756
It might be, not sure.
>>74723653
Damn straight
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>74723277
>I am now a #Cubanmissilecrisis
fucking kek. Im sold. I'm now a #ratorocket
>>74723093
Your uk statistics are fucking retarded because you have no understanding of what constitutes a violent crime here
Also retarded because you imply that the reason for the violent crime is the handgun ban
Also retarded because you claim guns are banned in the uk when they arent
I could go on
Basically stop getting information from fucking infographics
>scare a criminal off with a gun
>don't report it because you don't want to be charged with assault by your liberal DA
OP UTTERLY AND LITERALLY BTFO
also don't forget to sage
>>74723521
>Uhoh, a non-memer
>QUICK POINT AT HIS FLAG
sure thing fampai
I've seen DGU numbers ranging from 700k to 4.7 million a year. All analyses done via the NCVS, or Kleck's surveys.
I'd be interested to see what source Politico uses. I'm not going to give politico traffic, so OP should give us a direct link.
>>74723653
That guy is retarded, look at the number of deaths thanks to idiot drivers and look at the number of deaths caused by guns. He's also forgetting the damage caused by crashes.
>>74723653
Reminder OP got BTFO but is avoiding facing it.
>>74723093
>>74723653
Guess which one kills more every year.
>>74722969
Weird.
Obama's post-Sandy Hook study put it at a minimum of a quarter million a year.
>whine that the government won't fund a study
>ignore the results when they do
There is no one on the planet more pathetic than a gun grabber.
>>74723756
>>74723819
It says 'homicide deaths' so I hope it doesn't.
>>74723093
Thank you for BTFO of dumbass op
Now i can pray in peace.
1,500 DGU's in OP's post is defensive gun uses with shots fired. How many times is just brandishing a gun enough to make someone fuck off without incident?
>>74724372
OOSH. Of course. That's the info I was looking for.
Yep, OP is full of shit.
>all these (you)s
wew
>>74724340
praise the kube
>>74723922
t. Stein
>>74723521
Since Australia is a country that is supposedly a model of effective gun control, it seems like his input would be very relevant, doesn't it?
>>74724211
Last time I searched for the info I could only find the numbers of general deaths, which would mean the number of actual homicides is even lower.
>>74724656
*cough cough*
>>74724656
>Australia is a country that is supposedly a model of effective gun control
do you actually believe this
>>74724676
If a gun grabber posts gun death statistics, it includes murder, suicides, accidents, police shootings, and lawful self defense.
Every. Single. Time.
Here are the actual numbers, straight from the FBI.
>>74724743
>>74724656
wrong pic, whatever, cant find the one I meant to post.
>>74724745
That's what every liberal likes to trot out
Redpill me on what it's really like
>>74724743
>>74724745
I was playing devil's advocate since OP (ever the peter poppin' cock gobbler who would seem to support gun control) was telling our Australian anglo brethren to fuck off from the thread. We're frequently told in the US that Australia has practically nil gun homocides since port arthur legislation. I don't believe the narrative of course :P
>>74724860
yeah I got you.
anyways enough BTFO tonight, goodnight friends
>>74724760
I don't know if it's too much work but someone should try making a comparison between the poorest counties's violence and the blackest counties's violence. Because I KNOW the poorest counties are actually majorly white, but I don't hear about violence in them.
>>74724044
It's from the FBI's accounting of justifiable shootings per year.
So it's only instances where they shoot person and it's officially recorded. Basically 2000 George Zimmerman a year.
Not including any brandishing or the times the shooter missed and thecops don't even log it as a defensive shooting because no ones ever caught as the hood rat ran away.
>>74725007
>Because I KNOW the poorest counties are actually majorly white
Is this bait or just pardo stupidity?
>>74725007
There's a chart floating around.
White America has a murder rate comparable to most of Europe.
Hispanic America has a murder rate comparable to South America.
Black America has a murder rate comparable to Africa.
>>74725105
http://news.discovery.com/human/life/poverty-owsley-appalachia-120424.htm
>>74725105
I got that info when senders made that stupid "if you are white you don't know what's like to be poor". I will try to get the info again.
>>74722969
>source;politico
well golly gee that sounds conclusive
>>74725007
>the poorest counties are actually majorly white,
Dude, had are you smoking. Eastern Europe is the closest thing to "poor" white countries and they're all fantastically rich compared to nigger countries.
Polanf might be poorer than south africa, but only as long as SA rides the white man's accomplishments from 30 years ago.
>>74725240
I said counties, not country.
>>74725240
Oh, you daid counties.
Hah.
Nm, Appalachian hillbillies are poor motherfuckerd.
>>74725240
He said counties, did he mean countries? The poorest fewest counties in the US are actually majority white. See >>74725180
That doesn't mean that a majority of the poorest areas in the country are white though, just that the top 1-3 are.
>>74725180
>>74725228
Oops
I read "countries" not "counties"
But yeah I've been to some places in West Virginia that are definitely third world
>>74722969
The actual number of defensive gun uses is more 160% that of offensive uses. The fucking CDC confirmed this. Sorry for liberals that lie to each other.
>>74723387
Dont forget, between 50% and up to 90% of that is gang related. If we wiped out baltimore, detroit, and chicago we'd have a murder rate just as low as most european countries, if not lower.
>>74724656
>Since Australia is a country that is supposedly a model of effective gun control, it seems like his input would be very relevant, doesn't it?
It has never been effective here.
City cunts banned each other from owning guns, meanwhile not a single farmer turned theirs in.
In the two decades prior to the Port Arthur Massacre more than 2 MILLION SKS/SKK rifles were imported into Australia and after the amnesty was completed a little over 2 hundred thousand were handed in; that's just one type of gun.
Hell, back in the days of the amnesty, hunting shops and gun stores were fucking selling PVC tubes and end caps.
>>74725383
But how's violence in them? Comparisons made only check by wealth and gun possession not by race and gun possession, and that's what I'm interested on.
>>74723653
>>74723798
You dont. You can drive any vehicle on private property. You need a licence to drive a car on public roads. And keep in mind this entails USING your car, not simply possessing it.
So, similarly, i shouldnt need a fucking license to keep a gun in my home or at a range.
>>74724810
See
>>74725528
Gang shootings are a daily occurrence in every city, with machete attacks quite common as well.
Bikey gangs make and sell SMGs by the truckload, there are tens of thousands of guns imported illegally every year and hundreds of thousands are on the grey market - every single one is going into the hands of gangs and criminals.
>>74723653
>Portland
kek, figures.
>>74725007
>>74725180
>>74725178
West Virginia is one of the poorest states, yet it has lower than national average crime rate.
I'd love to see the crime rate of that 98% white, Republican country that majority get welfare that is on the Occupy Democracy picture
>>74725564
Pretty bad
Drug addicition there is insane, almost everyone is a pill addict (oxys aka hillbilly heroin)
Since the EPA put a bullet in the dome of the coal industry the state has fallen apart
There's no more jobs there and these people are stuck collecting welfare and going to crooked doctors for pain killer prescriptions
No one calls the police because they are very distrustful of law enforcement and prefer to solve their own problems
Because the communities are small and isolated if someone breaks into their house they'll find out who did it then go shoot them instead of calling the police
It's not Chiraq-tier though
>>74722969
>source: politico
L O L
>>74725652
I heard about the bikies making machine guns in their garages but I had no idea it was so widespread
Are the bikies the lords of the criminal underworld there?
>>74723653
>Sauscuck
It's like that Milwaukee Police Chief that is going redpilled on reporters about blacks and violence, then blames guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MAO7McNKE
>>74724810
The only observable affect of Gun control in Australia is that it makes people FEEL safe, sure our violent crime is lower than before 1996 but it was already trending down far earlier and the rate of decline was not significantly affected.
Not to mention more people in Australia own more guns than ever before. This kinda makes the whole "more guns = more crime" not work even when using the country that is often cited as a successful example of gun control.
Our laws are quite simply red tape only applied to legal ownership, making it as much of a pain as they can get away with while doing nothing to the illegal market.
Picture is preemptive
DONT YOU GUYS GET IT??? CRIMINALS WANT YOU TO PROTECT YOURSELVES!!!!!!
>>74725917
>I heard about the bikies making machine guns in their garages but I had no idea it was so widespread
It's a solid stream of income, with lower rates of prosecution and lower penalties than fucking marijuana.
Think about it - they can get $1,000 for about 3 hours of work on a Luty (production line style) or $2,000 putting together an Owen gun kit left over from the second world war.
What other industry has that rate of return?
>Are the bikies the lords of the criminal underworld there?
Basically - back in the early 2,000's the wars were much worse, but since then the cops have taken a step back and the bikeys have sort of self regulated.
Bikeys still shoot each other, but they mainly funnel weapons and drugs to the smaller Asian, Arab and African gangs.
>>74726056
Melbourne needs to burn in radioactive fire.
Fuck off OP
>>74726218
you never heard of pearl harbor?
>>74726397
Hawaii didn't become a state until after the war
>>74722969
Our firearm rights aren't subject to DGU's.
>>74723653
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
Owning firearms is a right, not a privilege.
>>74722969
shall not be infringed, you nigger
>>74726467
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
>Location Primarily Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Territory, U.S.
>>74723171
>((((((((((((((((((FACTS)))))))))))))))) gathered by """"honest"""" kikes
>>74726520
Territory=/=state
The Japanese also attacked the Aleutians but no one ever talks about that
CONSERVASHITS BTFO
Bet you racist republicans can't refute this.
>>74726771
What drives someone to create such an asshurt image?
>>74726771
>still buying into the left/right narrative.
>claiming there is literally anything wrong with being racist.
>actually thinking that our firearms rights are up for debate.
lol you trolls are horrible.
>>74726771
>comprehensive federal background checks
We already have that
>mentally ill and domestic violence convicts can't get guns
We already have that
>sue gun manufacturers
So why not be able to sue beer and liquor manufacturers when there's a drunk driving death? Why not be able to sue the car manufacturer as well? And the car dealer. After all if they weren't sold a car then they couldn't drink and drive
>>74726771
But there's a major hole with the circle. If there are more guns in proliferation wouldn't that mean there's less mass shootings in proportion to the amount of guns. Taking it literally it just says "mass shooting" so with one event that means there will be more guns compared to mass shootings as the cycle goes on.
Just a reminder to everyone here, if someone says that gun carry doesn't stop mass shootings (which is a lie) just point out that if someone doesn't kill more than one person it isn't considered a mass shooting and therefore it doesn't enter on the rare studies that are made about it.
>>74726771
It's impossible to count defensive uses unless the victim calls the cops. And why would they if the perpetrator took off and no shots were fired.
>>74724810
Most people who talk about how amazing our laws are don't actually know what the laws are. They just know that they've never been shot and never seen a gun, therefore our laws (whatever they may be) would work everywhere else on the planet. They probably don't realise that in most states replica guns are more heavily regulated than real guns, or that suppressors are actually safety equipment.
Usually it's city people making laws to stop city people doing things they don't like. Every cunt and their mum has guns in rural areas and our schools remain not-shot-up.
Basically the 1996 NFA is a massive collection of laws that were rushed into action. The laws were drafted and written by people who didn't really understand guns, but knew they were bad. Some of the things in the NFA may well have helped prevent some kind of gun violence, but a lot of the laws are just horrible red tape that prevent people who willingly follow the law from doing whatever harmless thing they want to do.
Pro-gun groups and people here try to get rid of some of the rubbish (like the bans on pump-action/semi-auto shotguns, Semi-auto rimfires, some of the genuine need shit etc.) but as soon as they say anything, the antis assume they want to repeal the entirety of all gun laws and just hand out guns to everyone.
Also there's a massive grey market of guns that were never handed in. Our laws do a mildly effective job at keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally handicapped but beyond that our lack of shootings can be attributed to our lack of wanting to shoot each other.
>>74728344
And that's the thing no amount of legislation will stop the lone wolf
Only intellectually honest supporters of gun control will admit this but those are extremely rare
It's funny that all of the anti gun people have never shot a gun before and they are literally terrified at the thought of seeing anyone but a cop with one
One of my friends (he's a liberal, not hardcore, essentially just believes in every Democrat position yet is quite racist himself) came to visit and we went to the store to buy beer and someone was open carrying as is common around here and he became visibly nervous
>>74723653
Because if you're driving on the public highways you need to follow the rules, you don't have any "right to drive around how you want". You do have a right to live, and if you don't have the ability to protect your life and aren't allowed to, like in the UK then any old worthless nigger with a kitchen knife and a wrap of heroin in his butthole can slice you ear to ear and quite happily languish in prison with 3 meals a day.
>>74729015
Do you think that Brexit is going to happen?
I don't think that it will happen because the stay people are flooding the airwaves and newspapers with stay propaganda that most importantly says that to leave will mean the individual loses money and as is well known few people place anything about the £
