This image proves that we are not alone.
>>74701629
Yeah, no.
>>74701629
Please explain the Fermi Paradox then.
>>74703180
You know the fermi paradox is a theory right faggot?
No it doesn't. It just shows that there's a high probability of extraterrestrial life.
>>74703308
The fact that we are live is enough proof.
>>74701629
No, it says that from a logical perspective it's highly improbable that we're alone. "Indicates" and "proves" are two different things.
>>74701629
there probably is life out there , but the distances are too far for it to matter.
unless someone figures out warp drive, it will never matter.
>>74701629
The known universe is not that big desu senpai
If the condition of earth is one of the unique, then it's reasonable to say there's no other life around our galaxy
It's like you found some bush in the dessert. It'd be ultra rare that you wouldn't find another within radius of 10 miles. So the possiblily is too small to make me believe
>>74703294
Why did you have to insult him?
This is not /b/
>>74701629
I wish. But it doesn't prove anything. The sad truth is that we're probably just all alone and meaningless.
>>74703294
>fermi paradox is a theory
No dumbass, it's a contradiction. The math says that by all rights we should have actual evidence of extraterrestrial life, we don't. That's the problem. If they're anywhere as numerous as Drake equation says, we should have run into them or vice versa. The implications are thus: The drake equation is wrong and life is rare, the ETs are hiding from us, or we are alone.
>>74701629
>alone
what does that even mean?
>>74701629
ayy lmao
>>74701629
It's mathematically impossible that we're the only intelligent life in the universe, but I also say that it's most likely impossible that we'll ever meet any other intelligent life. At least not for thousand and thousands of years.
If I'm ever floating by myself on a boat in the middle of the Pacific, I'll be sure to remind myself that I'm not alone because there's people in Siberia
What is the possibility of us being the most advanced civilization in the Virgo Supercluster? Maybe other civilization fell for the Isamic Caliphate trap and live in some theocratic shithole waiting for us to free them?
Considering the size of the known universe the mathematical chance that we're alone is so infinitesimally small that it's not really worth considering otherwise without some kind of proof.
But because of the distance between habitable planets its quite unlikely that we'll ever meet any other advanced civilizations without huge jumps in space travel tech (warp drives and shieeet).
>>74704229
>mathematically impossible
It's not mathematically impossible.
The best we can say is that it is mathematically improbable - even so highly improbable that it is NEARLY certain that there is other intelligent life.
This image proves that tits are best
>>74703855
Does anyone take the Drake equation seriously?
we're not alone but that image doesn't prove anything.
>>74701629
>proves
No, it suggests.
>>74701629
you again? go here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
>>74703699
>The known universe is not that big desu senpai
the hell are you talking about? There are an estimated 10 trillion galaxies, with an estimated 100 billion stars in each one. Not that big..
>le god meme
>>74703699
That's a retarded example. The desert is a perfect example though, yeah we most likely have no intelligent life around us; but there's sure a shit a ton of other intelligent life outside of our immediate vicinity.
Your reasoning is like walking into a river, seeing a fish, looking around and seeing no more, and then concluding that that was the only fish in existence and that the oceans are empty because you never have personally gone out to the ocean and looked around.
>>74703798
Fuck off australia's dog.
>>74703855
It is still a theory.
Even if it takes into considerations all the things.
>>74704591
I'm going to agree with this paisan.
>>74704591
Holy fuck what is her name?
>>74703855
>If they're anywhere as numerous as Drake equation says, we should have run into them or vice versa.
No. Why would we run into them?
Do you realize people still get stuck on uninhabited islands, despite the whole merchant and military fleets of different countries sailing the oceans every day? Does it mean these fleets don't exist?
>>74704591
>being a tit man
tits are for children and betas
>>74704561
Differentiating between impossible and highly improbable is just semantics when the improbability is that high.
>>74704591
I don't know that pussy looks pretty damn good.
>>74704876
Only shitskins and niggers love asses. So, do you miss life in Pakistan?
>>74703180
>Please explain the Fermi Paradox then.
Alien races are not broadcasting to avoid drawing attention.
I'm not 100% sure on this paraphrase but you get the idea;
'Imagine that the galaxy is a dark park at night, their are no police; and the night never ends."
Do you think it's wise to be shouting to the stars "Here I am come and kill me!" ?
>>74704591
HIGH TEST (But also in need of Chef's pleasure bag) total butter face
>>74704677
Not even close.
You can have BILLIONS and BILLIONS units of sand, the reality that the one with this particular shape is unique can't be discarded.
Till we don't find it or create it in labos, you don't know shit you morons, go back to /x/
>>74704591
Literally the perfect woman.
10/10 would impregnate.
How can Dyson spheres be real when WHO WAS PHONE?
>>74704982
yes I do but I don't have time to visit, thankfully your great leader is bringing Pakistan to me
>>74704876
Nigger detected
The picture in your diagram is wrong, the earth should be flat
>>74705168
The Earth is actually a cone, and the sun, moon and stars are the ice cream.
So if you believe the fermi paradox then you are saying that you believe that humans are smart enough to actually detect or find other life. Lmfao, how niaeve
>>74704991
>Alien races are not broadcasting to avoid drawing attention.
Broadcasting exactly what? Do you realize that our technology exists in a very tiny time frame?
In 50 years we will probably forget how to transmit or receive radiowaves. In 100 years we will move on to quantum transmissions or some other shit.
The chance is there aren't any aliens in our technological timeframe - they are either too primitive or passed our technological level a long time ago.
>>74705151
Large hips and ass is a sign of fertility.
And I'm not talking about gelatinous nigger asses
>>74701629
In the words of a wise /b/ tard:
fuck off space niggers, we're full.
>>74705246
>>74705092
you guys really are shit at funposting
>>74705246
That makes no sense
>>74705372
Sorry I don't speak Rigatoni.
>>74701629
>>74703294
>muh saganillion billions of billons of trillion gorillion
>muh vaste of space god-perspective non-argument
no, its proves only that you don't understand anything about >>74703180 the Fermi Paradox
>>74705279
>Broadcasting exactly what?
EM radiation of some kind, most likely radio spectrum.
>>74705446
That's the point, nor does the flat Earth theory.
>>74703855
Flight 370
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missing_aircraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
but don't worry, if you don't know about it means it doesn't exist right?
>>74705514
>canadian reading comprehension
>>74704887
Specificity of language is important.
Does it ever blow yalls minds that there's a universe at all? Like, where the fuck did it come from?
>>74705006
>french education
We're not looking for a new Earth with elephants and mice and niggers for your froggie wife to fuck you imbecile.
>>74705623
>>canadian reading comprehension
Radio is the best possible long distance communication method we have with our understanding of physics.
What you are suggesting is basically "magic".
>>74704591
I must concur with your licid and well thought out argument sir. More tits for you.
>>74703415
Not really.
We have no reason to believe that life is common: we have no data to suggest it is.
Life could be nearly impossible, a 1/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 occurrence (I didn't count the zeroes, but you get the idea) and the only reason we exist is because we HAVE to exist in order to observe ourselves. We can only observe a universe in which we exist, so we cannot take our own existence as any indication of the probability of life existing.
We may, in fact, be alone.
>>74705525
https://youtu.be/lchtwf5Fvhc?t=1830
Then explain this footage
>>74704591
Nice attempt to slide the thread, alien idf.
>>74704591
nop
>>74705525
>>74705891
Supposed to play at the 30:30 mark
>>74701629
Please stop.
This shit gives me vertigo and makes me feel the pangs of cosmic horror like I'm stuck in a goddamned Lovecraft novella.
>>74705813
If you want to blame my education, ok I'm for it with actual arguments.
Otherwise, sir, fuck the dirty slut who did the very first anal born baby, you'll make a piece of art. Fucking shit posting scumbag.
>>74703855
Could it be because the closest star, other than our sun, is 4.24 light years away? Distances in space are massive.
That's what, 24,908,258,004,480 miles?
>>74705951
The Fermi paradox states that it's possible to like tits and ass at the same time
>>74705840
>Radio is the best possible long distance communication method we have with our understanding of physics.
It's actually the worst possible method if you are talking about space.
A space faring race must have something with a low ping. Quantum teleportation is a very good method and it doesn't transmit anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation
Allahu Akbar!
The U.S. must take Monroe Doctrine now.
The U.S. must withdraw American Forces from all Foreign Countries now.
I love American99% and the U.S.
Japan, Germany and China are evil empires.
Allahu Akbar!
>>74703180
Planetarium hypothesis. Your life of not being born Chad is because the person running the fish tank needed some bitch fishes to make his Chad fishes look cooler.
>>74705840
>cuckadian education everyone
>also cuckadian reading comprehension
>literally btfo himself - with our understanding
>with our understanding
ever heard of quantum physics?
>>74705006
there are more planets than grains of sand bud
ass is best
>>74701629
>inb4 Humanity is the first sentient life to emerge in our relatively young cosmos
Seriously our star is only a generation 2, maybe 3 sun, the universe is predicted to last much longer than it has existed for, and somebody has to be the first.
>>74705891
>>74706010
Anybody with a brain can see that there's a curvature there.
The universe is pretty young. What if we are the ancient civilisation you always read about in books? What if we are the ones who leave behind monuments for future alien species to discover and decipher?
Even without FTL travel, if you live forever and perceive decades and centuries in seconds, then suddenly millions of years become eye-blinks.
>yfw in a thousand years we build Dyson spheres and live as gods, while alien civilisations spring up around us
>>74706149
except one is better than the other
>>74706332
WouldTonguePunchTheFartBox/10
>preferring ass to tits
>>74706305
Fish eye lense
Explain the sun
>>74706332
>muh saganillion billions of billons of trillion gorillion
>muh vaste of bodyparts god-perspective non-argument
hips> ass = tits
>>74706276
The number of grains doesn't actually matter in this demonstration dude.
The fact that life came out on earth doesn't prove that it happened or would happen certainly somewhere else in the universe, except if the universe is infinite. Statistics don't work like that.
>>74706283
arsch ja
>>74706471
>Explain the sun
Well it's really far away, and really big, and wouldn't be visible at that perspective.
Did anyone else prefer tits from like 10-18, but now likes ass way more?
I'm 20 btw.
No, it's proof that OP is alone in his parent's basement.
>>74706563
doesnt have to be the same, just similar
>>74706312
Hell yeah.
>>74706508
for fuck sake its 4AM, Mario
>>74704801
Paradox =/= theory
>>74706638
Next step are legs, good luck with that IRL
>>74706701
Oh shit, am I haram?
>>74706638
Always prefered ass. Come on, the smell of a pussy or the tought of it makes me fucking copper
>>74706677
What do you mean by "similar" ?
ADN based with CHONPS or with other solvant that water ?
>>74701629
>This image proves that we are not alone.
That is wrong because even though the size of the universe is huge, so is the time scale involved.
It's inevitable that other sentient life has or will exists, but it is unlikely that other sentient life exists at the same time we do within a distance we could reach in our lifetime as a species.
Love these debates, Atheists demand empirical evidence for everything. Then blindly accept that aliens are real because....
Oh right. There is absolutely 0 empirical evidence for the existence of life outside of Earth.
>>74704591
>hips
>>74706234
>It's actually the worst possible method if you are talking about space.
What other methods do we have, non radio wavelengths. Anything shorter than visible light is subject to far too much attenuation from dust and is going to be overpowered by stars.
Anything longer than radio is subject to far too much size propagation requiring impractically large receiving dishes, and background noise.
Radio is a happy range that bypasses most obstructions, isn't naturally very common at our useful wavelengths and is reasonable in size and power use.
>A space faring race must have something with a low ping.
"Because it depends on classical communication, which can proceed no faster than the speed of light, it cannot be used for faster-than-light transport or communication of classical bits."
Low ping, still only slower than the speed of light. It's almost like you have no fucking idea what you are talking about but heard about this cool quantum thing and think it's a solution.
>>74706851
>debates
>everyone is talking about ass and tits
i love retards like you
>>74706851
There is proof that one body part is superior
>>74706259
>ever heard of quantum physics?
Yeah, show me a FTL quantum radio or an entangled pair that's stable over long distances and long times. It's almost like I actually know why quantum physics are not a solution for interstellar communication.
>>74706146
Why is Canada so autistic?
>>74706910
The ass is past us
Boobs are for noobs
It's the hips that are "hip"
>>74706563
the fact that life happened on earth in so many shapes and sizes and thrived in so many conditions, climates, temperatures kinda proves that life is a tough motherfucker with a will to just exist no matter what.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movile_Cave
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1qpffb_the-secret-underworld-movile-sulphur-cave-life-romania-national-geographic-adventures_tech
>>74706563
Well we know the universe is expanding, according to the doppler effect. There's also theories that state there are multiple universes.
Even by looking at the vastness of our -observable- universe, anybody with a brain can see that there's a very high probability that there's at least some form of life out there.
>>74706988
SAUCE FOR THE LOVE OF YAHWEH
>>74706638
bro wait til you hit 30 and appreciate feet, that's when you become god tier
>>74705871
Jesus Christ, tits!
>>74706988
>>74707050
because someones gotta be right on this continent
>>74706851
Evidence strongly suggests there is other life out there. There is no strong evidence to suggest there is a god, except for scientific ignorance and anecdotal evidence. Oh, and having "feewings"
>>74705701
thought she was rubbing a banana on her tits
>>74707333
Bless your accuracy, your willingness to use miles instead of kilometers, and also this bitchin' robot arm.
>>74701629
your image is an artist impression, it carries as much truth as a still image from X-men
>>74707233
sorry bud
>>74707238
I already think they are kinda hot desu
>>74705871
>>74706283
Delicious, but...
>not appreciating the best, sexiest part of a woman
>>74701629
Someday I hope to fuck an alien, don't you?
>>74707050
Is it to complicated to use a calculator when you know that the speed of light is arround 300,000 m.s-1 ??
>>74707128
Bad argument, we don't know if the life we know comes from one cell or multiple 0-cells.
And we don't know the environnement atm. The only right conclusion is : life can evolve to survive a lot of biomes.
Don't think that the first procaryota had spores.
>>74707130
>Well we know the universe is expanding, according to the doppler effect. There's also theories that state there are multiple universes.
Expanding =/ infinite.
Multiverse, like string theories. Let's just accord to the fact that we don't exist and we're in the matrix, ok ?
>>74707130
>Even by looking at the vastness of our -observable- universe, anybody with a brain can see that there's a very high probability that there's at least some form of life out there
Well, there could be 10^10000 planets with the size of the earth, located in the life crown of their stars, we simply don't know at this time, that's all mate.
>>74706637
According to your model of the world
However what was that big ass shining thing in the sky?
>>74707665
Ayylien booty
>passing off unverifiable physics and proceeding to claim that "math backs up" said physics
you all have zero idea about physics
>>74708208
i know the speed of my boot will surpass the resistance of your ass
>>74708326
>>74701629
Should have posted the one with Jesus looking down at the universe and saying "don't masturbate"
>>74706508
olive-nigger proving his point
>>74707370
>"Evidence strongly suggests ....."
wut ? talks about evidence but doesn't provide any. clearly too stupid to understand the scientific method.
>>74701629
YOU FORGOT THE LAST PICTURE IN THE IMAGE SEQUENCE, "INSIDE OP'S MOM'S VAGINA"
>>74707689
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
tl;dr:
1 - we're rare
2 - we're the first
3 - they came here before we existed or before we had a way to scientifically tell future generations about it (basically Ancient Aliens)
3a - they came and did shit here (full Ancient Aliens)
4 - we live in redneck country and nobody knows or cares enough to even say hi
5 - there be monsters out there and everyone is smart enough to not advertise their existence
6 - everyone is talking but we're too stupid to understand
7 - we're in their zoo
8 - they know and overnment knows but it's just weather balloons (basically Stargate)
>>74703855
>>74701629
drake used the equation to propagate that humanity is nothing special in the universe and used the 'out of the ass' values for the variables of the equation. after 'billions of billions' dollars put into SETI research, the same stupid equation bites the scientific community in the ass today.
the probability for other intelligent species who evolved on the same planet Earth is much more higher than the 'billions-of-trillions-gorillion-waste-of-space' child-logic non-argument
>>74703855
Ants run into humans every day, but we don't communicate. The ants can't even perceive our existence. Even as they perceive evidence of our existence they can't comprehend what that evidence means. The ants that live in the foundation of my house will never know the address of that house, or what an address is, or what a street is, or what a house is.
If there are other sentient beings in the universe capable of interstellar or intergalactic travel then they are, by virtue of that capability alone, a bonifide higher order of being than we are, like we are to the ants. You can try all day to communicate with the ants, demanding that they take you to their leader and trying to teach them what you know about science, but they simply can't hear your. They may feel the vibrations of your voice, but they will never understand its meaning, or even that it has meaning.
Also, the lifespan of a worker ant is only a few years, so a human can live 20-30 times as long as the oldest worker ant. The odds of any given ant colony coming in contact with a human on earth are FAR better than the odds of a sentient species coming into contact with another sentient species, but ant colonies surely come into existence, run their course, and die off without any human contact at any point.
>>74712173
>The ants can't even perceive our existence.
Stop smoking.
>ctrl+f=simulation
>0 results
We did not find aliens because they aren't a useful component of the current simulation.
>>74713618
>he thinks ants know what a human is
start smoking
>>74714029
perceive=/=comprehend
Drop the 'caine.
>>74705951
If you prefer asses to tits, you're a faggot.
>>74701629
It's sad to know humanity will never leave the Local Galactic Group. Why even live?
>>74714269
It's his black admixture talking, you wouldn't try to reason with a nigger, would you?
>>74714163
>he thinks ants know what a human looks like
>he thinks ants know what a human sounds like
>he thinks ants know what a human smells like
I can do this semantic, pedantic bullshit all day.but its a waste of my time and yours.
>>74701629
What if the Oort cloud is protecting us?
>>74712173
>oh now the reverse ant-perspective "logic",
using again child-logic and nonscientific argument how ants cant "perceive our existence" and projecting it to the aliens-humans relation is just bullshit not science.
>>74714471
>pedantic
That's you and you only.
Ants are functioning animals and as such perceive their surrounding as fitting.
To postulate they do not perceive us is a false premise.
Life is a mistake that usually correct itself quickly, Earth is an aberation, work with that hypothesis, rather than confirming yourself for a fool.
>>74714471
When you grab an ant, it starts flailing and biting. Why would it do such if it could not perceive us?
>>74714843
>pulling numbers out of my ass and calling it an "equation" is science
>>74715074
It perceives that it is being crushed. It does not perceive who is crushing it, or even that there is intent behind the attack. It can feel fingers, but it does not know that they are fingers.
>>74715231
"The ants can't even perceive our existence."
Call us when you stopped running with your goalpost, simpleton.
>>74714857
>>74715074
to perceive is not to understand.
the mayans sure perceived the spanish but they sure as fuck didn't understand them or their actions or the effects they would have.
also consider Africa and especially the fact dindu languages don't have concepts we have been working with since time immemorial so simply being born there and learning there would make one unable to mentally comprehend things like responsibility, promise, obligation, future and preparing for the future.
if such differences can exist among members of the same species can you be so sure tthat he great ant empire knows what a human is?
>>74715486
I don't think you know what perceiv means, so here's the defintion.
Now, in the example given where an ant is picked up by a human, does the ant:
-become aware or conscious of the human, or humans in general?
-come to realize or understand the human, or humans in general?
No, it does not. All it knows is that some force greater than itself is fucking with it.
>simpleton
gg you win again, literally BTFO I am stumped forever
>>74715914
oops forgot defintion
>>74701629
>you will never get to see naive little Ayys greeting us with warm smiles
>you will never participate in the inevitable race war that will occur when man united against the Ayys due to how shitty and sub human they are
>you will never watch as the various hardcore factions of man instantly shed aside their differences and team up to fuck/enslave these Ayys to death
>you will never watch Muslims blow up Ayy cities for max Ayy civilian casualties and high five rednecks and Slavs as they gun down Ayy women and children as Preachers, Rabbis, and Islamic Imams read our passages and Suras from the rooftops on the top of their lungs to inspire their troops to commit the slaughter in the name of their (superior and human) Gods
>you will never watch the Jews swindle and bankrupt the world Ayy economy as the chinks and Japs come in with the assist and bloat their economies to the point of maximum ruin
>you will never watch the Jews somehow systematically infiltrate the Ayy society and cause lots of internal strife
>you will never engage in the mass raping of qt Ayy women with your Bros from Africa
>you will never witness the few sympathetic Ayys betray their own race and convert to Christianity/Judaism/Islam (and other superior human faiths) and wage war against their own dying race
>you will never watch Australian shit posting divisions cause large loss of morale and suicides among the woefully overwhelmed Ayy military through sheer Bantz alone
>you will never experience mankind drive the extinction of the Ayy race and create a new breed of half-Ayys in its wake, promptly before enslaving them
>you will never see humanity truly working together to bring about or collective shittyness together to completely dismantle and destroy a lesser civilization from top to bottom
Why even live?
Yeah you'd have to be crazy to think we're the only sentient creatures out there.
The sad thing is, unless we find out something we don't know about how the speed of light barrier works, we'll never be able to visit any of them or even talk to them. Sucks man.
>>74715914
>Now, in the example given where an ant is picked up by a human, does the ant:
>
>-become aware or conscious of the human, or humans in general?
>-come to realize or understand the human, or humans in general?
>or humans in general?
lol, trying to conflagrate perception and conceptualization like a good little leftist.
The ant identify the current human according to the threat level. Sentience isn't a prerequisite of perception, faggit.
>2016
>trying to appeal to definition without etymologie
latin:perceptio, to recolt[data]
Perhaps, unlike me, you weren't aware of the latin signified?
>>74716289
In the hypothesis the universe is real this would be crazy.
If we are not real but simulated, that a lot less crazy.
>>74716464
if we are simulated then whoever made this simulation must have programmed irrational numbers into that simulation, which looks to be impossible, because theyre irrational.
>>74716464
Then the simulation would just have to be part of a real world which was no less complex. Doesn't really tell us anything.
>>74716397
>leftist
u r fgt so gay lol
>>74716397
You called me?
Considering the absurd number of stars and therefor planets and that the most common elements in the universe (H-O-C-N) are also the basic elements needed for life (as we know it), then take theMiller–Urey experiment for example, showing how easly complex bio-molecules can form in harsh conditions and it becomes quite impossible that this planet is the only one with life.
>>74716289
THIS
also we often talk about the speed of the ship
but never of its acceleration. we can't pass from 0 to the speed of light instantly.
>>74703180
That's like saying "if I don't see it, it doesn't exist."
There could be innumerable reasons why a nearby alien civilization wants nothing to do with Earth or humanity, most notably them not wanting to step on the political landmine that is first contact with a post-atomic age civilization.
And they could just not care about us at all. If intelligent life is common, then it's not worth interacting with unless you need to.
>>74703855
>Human society after 10,000 years of actual scientific progress hasn't made contact in a universe billions of light years wide so there can't be any other intelligent life in said universe
This is how retarded you sound
No, it doesn't.
>>74701629
Nah were not alone, but when the time comes to are these other species on other planets, your great great great great grandchildren will be long dead
>>74717023
The time element is a big one that people ignore. 100k earth years could be a single generation to an alien species. They could have visited earth some time in the past, lets say 50k years ago, taken a few notes, said "yeah its interesting enough but lets keep moving" and continued with their cartography mission. They could plan on coming back in "a few years" to them, which would be thousands of years to us.
>>74701629
You for the ">" in the beg fining OP.
Ya know, memedirection
>>74701629
No it does not.
>>74717023
>we haven't proved it wrong, so it must exist!
>>74717287
Well yeah besides the the issue of thousands or millions of light years of distance there's also the issue of time dilation for civilizations living closer to massive celestial bodies
>>74717371
>We haven't proved it right yet after existing for 0.0000000!% of the entire universe so we have to rule out its existence
All I'm saying is ruling out ET life at this stage is retarded beyond belief
>>74705871
Of course no one can prove we're not alone but consider:
1) The way complex patterns form in nature, even outside of biology.
2) The fact that we see biological patterns all around us from the extremely simple right up to the complex
3) Life itself as a replicating pattern is incredibly adaptable to lots of conditions. Once life starts replicating it's unstoppable.
4) Trillions of planets over billions of years.
It's just not realistic to think we're the only ones.
>>74717442
Are you willing to apply the same to God?
Either way, the amount of time we have been here isn't really what is in question. The question is the amount of time other planets with the ability to harbor life have had.
>>74717391
Plus bacteria and jellyfish don't have radio stations.
>>74701629
>>74704591
Lord have mercy
>>74701629
>>74701629
We can't even begin to comprehend how big the universe truly is. Anyone who is denying that there is an extraterrestial life somewhere out there, is fucking stupid.
You guys sure say some stupid things, lol.
We have no way to know if we have more chances of being alone than not being alone because we lack data. Maybe there is an unknown substance in every other part of the universe that prevents life from existing and that we can't detect.
Every idiot should leave this thread right now.
No, just stay there and write "I am an idiot" until this thread is down.
>>74717442
I'm ruling it out until it's proved to be real. Like what any logical person should do.
>>74717442
this
There are likely hundreds or thousands of species on earth that we haven't observed yet in any single deep trench of the ocean. It would be dumb to assume that they don't exist simply because we haven't seen them. Now consider the total land mass of the universe compared to an ocean trench.
I also think the assumption that a life sustaining planet must look like ours (similar temperature, liquid water, etc) is folly. Alien lifeforms could work on a totally different biological paradigm than earth life. They could breath methane, drink liquid nitrogen, eat silicone, and fart oxygen.
>>74718028
>Left is always right
Opinion - irrelevant.
>>74718039
You don't have to rule it out. It can be like that one niggas cat. Might be might not be, why not say both?
>>74718046
also, scientists had this conclusion that phosphorus is needed to create life everywhere. but a while ago they discovered that living bacteria here on earth could thrive in an enviroment in arsenic no differently than in phosphorus. So this anons theory could be correct.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ8jHM8QhU8
>>74703180
I just looked this because I had not heard of it but how is this paradox a paradox at all?
If there are allegedly million or even billions of planets with life that does not guarantee extraterrestrials visiting earth at all.
Of those millions of planets with life only a very small percentage (or indeed perhaps even none) of them will have developed sapient life of that percentage that have sapient life only a few (or none) of them may have developed a civilization advanced enough to reach space, and then a even smaller percentage of that percentage that are capable of interstellar travel, and of that percentage yet another that even knows earth exists and can reach it and then you have to assume that whatever infathonably sized percentage of a percentage of fraction of a fraction of these races both wants to go to earth and decides to come here.
It's really not all that strange at all.
Space is big and earth is but one of a near infinite number of planets.
>>74709374
Great post.
>>74715074
Ants are just biological robots.
>>74718046
The reason we assume that is because from the very beginning of life forming, specific conditions were needed at every single step. There is no reason at all to assume what you just have. Every single majorly developed life we have ever seen or known of, require(s)(ed) oxygen. The only exception being anaerobic bacteria, which does not constitute as majorly developed.
>>74716207
"In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world"
Ronald Regan
Speech to the United Nations General Assembly, 42nd General Assembly
September 21, 1987
look up UFO clusters
>>74718628
>we haven't seen it, so it probably doesn't exist
lrn 2 science
>>74718628
>does not constitute as majorly developed
Absolute shitpost.
>>74718874
We haven't seen it under any other conditions. There are far more planets that are not like Earth in anyway, than there are Earth like planets.
Life simply is not able to form in certain conditions.
Other than that, disgusting strawman 0/10. Also, you better start believing in God.
>>74718970
It doesn't. We are talking of highly developed species far beyond ourselves when we think of an ET, do we not? Do you not? No one cares if there is measly bacteria out there some where, we care about something advanced.
Why do people in this thread start arguing?
I'll start thinking you are as delusional as the people who think that Jews are trying to throw down America.
>>74719396
Yeah, exactly, that's ridiculous. Everyone knows the Jews threw down America a long time ago.
>>74719497
Jews are fine people, to be honest. They live secluded in their country and don't bother others.
>>74719158
>start believing in god
I do believe in god, but science is not about belief. It is the exact opposite of faith. If it cannot be observed than it cannot be assumed to be true, but it also cannot be assumed to be false.
>life can only be formed in certain conditions
sure, but we don't know what those conditions could be. We only know of the conditions under which life on earth formed, and even those conditions include a large variety of temperatures and pressures. There are fish swimming around at 5k meters of depth right now, but your body would be pulverized by the pressure at that depth.
>>74719396
>>74719567
>>74719935
Conspiracists are usually the ones baiting.
UFO sightings picked up when we developed nukes
>>74720216
The US and USSR both ramped up their aviation research and development considerably around the same time. Is it possible many of those UFO sightings were actually military research craft?
>>74719729
They still need oxygen.
This also completely avoids the fact that we have not seen it in any other conditions. There is no reason to look where we have not found any sign, especially when we can be looking at planets where we know it is actually possible in the first place.
This is still not to mention why no contact? We aren't developed enough, but surely that doesn't mean they are not capable as well? If we want to believe that just because the Universe is so and so large, then we also have to believe that because it is so and so large, there is no reason intelligent life out there some where has not become extremely developed.
The only alternative is that it's only possible that we can become advanced to a certain extent, limited by what science can do, against what it can tell us is possible; and that there is no way to make interplanetary contact because life forming planets are too great a distance, or 'some' sort of obstacle cannot be scaled.
>>74701629
>proves
no it doesn't, it just shows that it is likely that we aren't alone but we have not yet discovered any evidence that we aren't alone.
Personally I would doubt we are alone but are we the most advanced and is there any race out there at least equal to or behind us if they are creative beings with a thought process like us.
Or are there beings beyond our abilities, like the grey scenario we see often bandied about?!
We can but wonder.
>>74718039
>>74718028
this
>>74718292
>>74718046
>>74717680
>>74717287
>>74717023
>>74716774
instead of making up false evidence, dumbing it down to ants and humans and looking desperately for excuses for the alien-fetish, why don't you use the real evidence we can use.
-taking into the drake-equation the probability of every step of the know evolution on earth from simple elements through abiogenesis to bacteria and so on...
-taking into account all the we know from scientific research from our solar system and beyond (protocell/bacteria/intelligent species)
- probability of the unique events to have occurred for the earth-moon collision and several extinction events
>no clear evidence of abiogenesis on moon and mars
>no evidence of intelligent species, type2-civ or type3-civ throughout all the observable galaxies
after billions of billions of dollars of scientific research we must take into account the evidence of absence of life ! not only intelligent or primitive life but also bacterial and protobacterial form of life.
FORGET THE UNIVERSE IF THERE IS OTHER INTELLIGENT LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE IT IS LIKELY TO HAVE EVOLVED HERE ON EARTH !
>>74718292
Finely someone that gets it, space is vast and the distance between inhabited worlds would be great. Most likely two interstellar societies would never make contact with each other, let alone meet, before one or the other dies out.
We as human beings are moving toward non-broadcasted methods of information transmittal, as such our planets broadcast echo is shrinking. Any other sapient life out there is unlikely to even know that we were here in the long run.
>>74720591
Are you able to communicate complex ideas to lower lifeforms? Can you teach your dog how to cook omelets? Would you want to for any reason?
Wouldn't it be funny if we were considered to be the ghetto part of the universe and we are seen as a savage sub species?
I wonder sometimes if the only evidence of our existence to reach Aliens would be TV and radio signals and the Aliens ended up hearing about World War II and 9/11 and watching Maury and Ancient Aliens. They'd literally think we're fucking hopeless retards.
>Hey zyrgon check this shit out. I beefed up our space radio. You'll never believe this shit. These retards calling themselves humans just took sides and had a huge global fight. Some kind of war lord gassed six million of their big nosed, merchant species. The absolute madmen even nuked one of their subspecies that apparently have slanted eyes. It seems the supposed "good guys" won the war and there was mutual peace for like 70 years. Ten minutes later they had these sand people who believe in some sky pedophile fly a flying ship into their towers and they end up electing the lowest member of their species as the world leader.
>Oh yeah and they broadcast their retarded for entertainment and believe these little triangles in some desert were made by someone like us.
On the other hand the Aliens could end up being as dumb as orkz from Warhammer and we could end up using them as faithful pack mules.
>>74701629
What do you think the most powerful planet is like?
>tfw thought i saw an ayylmao the other day but then it turned and it was just a plane
>>74721115
No. No. So that I (they) don't have to?
That is the only reason I can think of. I don't see what this has to do with anything though.
>>74704872
>Do you realize people still get stuck on uninhabited islands, despite the whole merchant and military fleets of different countries sailing the oceans every day? Does it mean these fleets don't exist?
This has to be the most dumbest post i have seen since weeks
>>74721382
My point was that they may simply have no motivation to do so. I could teach a dog to make an omelet, but it would require developing special equipment that the dog can use, as well as years of training. In the end I would have a dog who can cook omelets, which is useless. If an alien species with unfathomably advanced technology was watching us they may see no benefit to contacting us and sharing knowledge with us. It could simply be a cost-benefit analysis on their part. Even if they are actively looking for a protege species to uplift they may have several better candidates than humans.
>>74721777
We aren't dogs.
Who is to say they aren't just like us? If they even exist.
>>74701629
>round earth
Ishygddt
>>74701629
Earth is flat that picture is fake
Honestly would you really want to contact Humans
We're the niggers of the space world
Kill ourselves in mass genocides and wars selfish, narcissistic, not trusting, us vs them mentality, can only work together in small groups and not on a world wide level and almost blew up the world multiple times over proxy wars between two ideologies
>>74721975
>>74722007
Is the moon flat too?
>flatearthers
>not trolls
>>74703180
Fermi Paradox is irrelevant to the Great Filter
>>74722137
>is the projection of the moon flat or round?
Gee I dunno. Does it matter?
>>74722137
yea i bet you dont even believe in chemtrails or the lizard people you pathetic sheep
>>74722470
>is the projection of the earth flat or round?
>Does it matter? Do you know?
Answer troll.
>>74703308
so what? humans mistreat every form of life on this planet -- why look for life elsewhere when we can't even manage our own shit?
>>74722544
I don't know, but I don't have to answer everything right away. If the Earth was flat, our understanding of the cosmos would have to be revisited. And it would likely point to a "heavens are an illusion" theory
>>74722683
The Earth isn't flat.
>>74703855
>reading some of the theory and claims to understand it
>>74704459
>>74720668
nigga what
>>74701629
I zoomed in with my vedic computer and couldn't see any alien
Then why am I sitting in my room by myself?
C-Checkmate
>>74703855
>The math says
Stopped reading there. You have IFLS-tier knowledge of the subject.
>>74728608
do the math
>>74720668
Im curious, how would we have found evidence of actual intellligent civs with the technology we have at the moment?
Radio signals like the ones we use today would most likely drown out in noise when it reaches us unless we were the specific target of the transmission.
100% of the planets we have fully explored contain life.
>>74732426
>fully explored
Which planet did we fully explore?
>>74701629
It proves it if you went through an american education.
>>74732877
>not all
Why do americans always immediately jump onto this non-argument?
>>74701629
#NoLivesMatter
>we somehow know what our galaxy and the universe looks like despite the furthest away manmade object having just reached the barrier of the edge of our solar system
>>74703446
The vastness of time and space sucks
>>74701629
>politics
>>74703180
Light based communication is super fucken slow and no space based civ would ever use it
faster than light communication isn't detectable.
>>74701629
It proves that the observable universe is very, very big and that it's mathematically improbable that we're the only form of sentient life in it, but no, it doesn't prove we're not alone. That proof will come in due time.
Andromeda is fucking huge, it's getting closer and closer and will tear the milkyway apart ;_;
>>74733856
In about four billion years. And it won't tear us apart, we'll just merge with it and create one big, beautifully diverse galaxy.
:)
>>74734071
FUCK YOU, I don't want your diversity, fuck.
They will literally destroy each other in the collision, and there there is a little dingus galaxy nearby looking at us and laughing while that happens..
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Andromeda_and_Milky_Way_collision.ogg
>>74734299
Multiculturalism sure is pretty.
>>74703110
hes right burger, dont think that your shoddy education system has taught u 0 single bit about the world
>>74703699
>The known universe is not that big desu senpai
Stopped reading and discarded your opinion there
