So which country is currently winning the real life game of Civilization?
>>74687740
Flag related
usa if they dont fuck up
China
>>74687789
>>74687803
/thread
>>74687740
USA by cultural victory
>>74687740
Flag related, we're just turtling.
American inventions in Civ4:
>Constitution
>Replaceable Parts
>Printing Press
>Democracy (inb4 greece lolno)
>Assembly Line
>Refrigeration
>Flight
>Electricity
>Radio (US+UK)
>Plastics
>Satellites
>Fission
>Mass Media
>Computers
>Advanced Flight
>Computers
>Ecology
>Superconductors
>Stealth
>Fiber Optics
>Robotics
>Genetics
This is more than half of all of the inventions available during the time period that the USA has existed in reality. Rest of the world, are you even trying?
>>74687883
We were trying for a science victory against the ussr in the 60s but we switched to cultural after we forced them to switch ideologies
Culture victory eminent. Only Russia and China are putting up a resistance. Fucking Great Firewall.
USA but Harun al-Rashid managed to get Islam everywhere through gay ass trade desert traxe routes and fucking desert folklore
USA by far
>>74688041
Saudi Arabia putting up a good culture push right now though with religion spam
China
>>74687973
The US is more like the Republic from Civ 3. True Democracy is mob rule, a republic utilizes Senators.
>>74687973
>printing press?
>Democracy?
>Satellites?
England won in by culture in February 7 1964
>>74687740
define winning
>>74687973
They're trying but Americans are simply genetically superior so everyone else is at a huge disadvantage and might as well accept the Big American Cock (BAC) as their overlord
>>74687740
We have the lead right now but if the globalists get their way Russia is gonna take over.
>>74687740
>CHINA
>>74687973
>printing press
bruh
>>74688296
If you don't recognize Israel is winning the culture victory you are retarded.
Just look at gay marriage, abortion, interracial couples, mass immigration etc.
>>74687740
You can calculate it yourself
Using the Civ 4 scoring system:
(Percentage of population * 5000)
(Percantage of Land * 2000)
(Number of Wonders * 20)
+ 2000 for Technology
China is currently winning on a score of 4005
>>74687973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9-Marie_Amp%C3%A8re
WE WUZ SIENCE
dude half of that list is wrong desu senpai
>>74687740
Brazil
We just got a right-wing president, Brazil for world leader 2030>>74687789
>>74688269
There are 5 victory conditions.
Culture (Have five full tenets of culture)
Science (Send a colony ship to outer space)
Military (Be the last country standing)
Diplomatic (Be elected world leader by the UN)
Time (Be the best country at the end of times)
>>74688426
>>74688228
>he doesn't know that Johannes Gutenberg was born in Virginia
>>74687789
No we're not. USA is where Rome was in 400. On top of the world, but on a downward trajectory and demise in the near future.
I'd say the chinese. They're doing fairly well. They have a high IQ. All they need to do is start deregulation and become less authoritarian, and they'd take the world by storm.
If they fail to do that, then the mantle of civilization will probably go to the slavs instead. Eastern europe is the only uncucked part left, again going by current trajectories.
>>74687973
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 9/11
>>74687973
>WRITING DOWN TESLA'S INVENTIONS AS AMERICAN
ooooooooooookkkkkkkkkk
>>74687740
Jews by diplomatic via united nations
>>74688593
>murican education
>>74688739
This
>>74688594
no they wouldn't, you're an idiot. China has a billion people and they don't do shit except rip people off and try to steal their shit
Imagine a country of a billion Germans. They would rule the world. But the Chinese are Chinese, and that's a matter of fact.
USA has almost won the culture war but the left is forcing their citizens to hate American culture so we're losing culture points left and right
China is gaining in technology and will surpass us in culture by 2050
>>74688594
>China
You're out of your mind. China is incredibly fragile. If the door is kicked in the whole rotten structure would come crashing down. Nothing in China works, nothing in China is efficient, everything in China is polluted and dirty, and there's more corruption in China than in Russia and Mexico combined. The army is divided into sections loyal to individual men rather than the abstract concept of the Chinese nation.
They're going nowhere fast. Their single one (1) aircraft carrier can't even leave port. Eastern European nations may have a chance to shine in the future, but there won't be a superpower to replace the United States in a long, long, long time.
>>74688688
Tesla was American. Nice dubs tho
>>74688553
those are the vanilla ones
BNW
Culture (half of the citizens in each empire prefer the winning culture over their own)
Domination (all the clay belong to you)
Diplomatic (bribe everyone into saying you are the best)
>>74687740
>Cultural
America's cultural victory is eminent
Arabia using religion is a close #2
China is #3 by spamming numbers
India is #4 for that same reason
Japan is also a key competitor
Britain was winning last century but they fucked it up, they're still in the running as long as the former colonies still recognize the queen.
Spain used to be strong, but they committed suicide 2 centuries ago.
>Science
America is winning. No one else is in the race
>Military
America #1
Russia #2 trying to stop american cultural victory with military intervention everywhere
China #3
All of Europe except for Britain is city-state status. Spectators only
>>74687740
Saudi Arabia
They're rich, they're Muslims are flooding the West.
Israel via cultural victory
>>74688888
well fuck
I wanted those numbers
>>74688869
>>74688869
Nikola Tesla
Father: An Orthodox Priest
Mother: Born to a Serbian monarch and croatian housewife
But tesla is American, right? Fucking right?
Logic is awesome
There isn't anybody close to taking the win yet, just gaining the midgame advantages. A clear winner won't be obvious until way later on.
China will definitely remain a semi-strong late-game player. If USA and Russia make it there they'll both be battered and just scooting along, I can't see either making it to the endgame.
>>74688869
>Tesla was American. Nice dubs tho
He was born in Croatia, he is Croatian
WE WUZ TELSA N SHIT
>>74688891
>All of Europe except for Britain is city-state status
*erm erm*
US won cultural victory at the end of the cold war
Right now it's like the Just One More Turn phase where no one has any goals and we use our guided missiles to take out barbarian camps
>>74688891
Science race is irrelevant because no one gives a fuck currently about space colonies
>>74689016
If you live in America as an American citizen then you're American.
Otherwise you can get the fuck out.
>>74689044
You too
Do you people live under a fucking rock?
Is it that hard?
>>74689016
>>74689016
>>74689016
>>74687740
China.
All other answers are really ignorant.
>>74687973
france invented democracy
>>74689016
>>74689044
>>74689124
Any white person who speaks the American language, practices the American culture, and lives in America is objectively American.
is this a subtle Civ VI marketing campaign?
>>74689068
shut up france and trade bread with us before we invade you
>>74689094
this, no one gives a fuck about space anymore
we fight with t.v. shows and refugees now
>>74688840
>Imagine a country of a billion Germans
Open borders Muslim rape
america shouldn't even be in the game desu senpai
it starts in 4000 BC
they just included america as a necessary evil to sell copies
and I'm not anti-american, i love those guys, but as a civilization america (and canada) are just offshoots of the english
>>74689120
So if you ever get a job to... install infrastructure in Mozambique... and they give you a goat and their citizenship as a reward... are you then Mozambican?
Or pic related?
Sorry to ruin your shitposting fest, but given enough time, México will win in everything forever.
By the year 2250 this planet will be called México.
Everybody will nap all day and gardening will be done by robots, and niggers will be sold as slaves to an alien species.
>>74689205
civ 6 looks like garbage and it kept all of the worst aspects of 5, like one unit per tile
>>74689272
>France shouldn't even be in the game desu senpai
>it starts in 4000 BC
>they just included France as a necessary evil to sell copies
>and I'm not anti-french, i love those guys, but as a civilization france (and spain) are just offshoots of the romans
>>74689203
Sure, buddy
>>74689205
Yes because I would use the Civ V logo if I was shilling Civ VI: Revolution
Fucking idiot
USA of course. Russias a tin can, and China is about to collapse.
>>74687740
In civ 5 population=science and worked tiles
China and India have the highest populations.
I think with the West eating each other China has an opening to shoot forward. China will have the highest score and military potential.
Russia is in the best position to win a science victory.
Jews are pushing for a victory too except in unconventional ways. They're going for a globalist one world government so in a sense diplo and globalist cultureless culture victory with tasteless hollywood degeneracy.
Really white countries would exist as city states with half of their pops from other civs.
>>74689305
>planet will be called México
yeah sure... maybe because your known planet is behind a wall.
>>74689305
Then you'll wake up, all dirty and oily, realizing you're cleaning a lawn-mowing robot for your Chinese Overlord Trumpdong Jong Jim
>>74688594
Trump
>>74689336
>kept all of the worst aspects of 5, like one unit per tile
You can merge units in Civ VI apparently, so it has a form of pseudo stacking. Not perfect but is an improvement.
humanity won via culture
that culture being stupidity
>>74689390
>offshoots of the romans
France yes, Spain no.
Charles the great, Frank/Holy Roman Empire in CIV 6 when?
>>74689398
didn't he live in the US for the majority of his life and do most of his important work here?
>>74689336
>worst aspect
>one unit per tile
clearly you never played civ 3/4
>>74688594
The Chinese are way too fucking jewy to ever run a top tier civilization. Over 60% of Chinese would be willing to pay for the same product made by Americans over Chinese even if it cost more.
>>74689602
Whatever faggot, his genes, ancestry, heritage and persona didn't change, only his papers did
Gtfo
>>74689706
>>74689648
>>74689624
>>74689602
>>74689579
>>74689576
>>74688530
>>74688527
>>74688460
>>74687789
>>74687803
>>74687827
To all idiots saying USA. No a civilization with massive racism can't win at anything besides racism.
>>74688041
American culture is being destroyed
>>74689579
>France is more Roman than Spain
honestly this posts upsets me
>>74689773
A
>>74689135
No, Greece did you fucking idiot.
Forgive my countrymen, they're naturally retards.
poo in loos are a future superpower
>>74689624
there is literally no downside to stacks, they are already countered by artillery
if that isn't enough, guess what, they have a bigger army and should beat your smaller army
it's certainly better than moving 50 units per turn in a war
>>74689706
>only his papers changed
right, he moved to America
>>74689773
nice b8
you have to ask?
>>74689773
If you kill your opponents in civ, they win.
>>74689773
Shut up eh you're linking wrong posts
Think aboot that eh
>>74689844
Greece didn't exist until 1832 buddy
>>74688594
Nah, China is the one on a downward slope. China has been overhyped for the past 20 years, and now it's on the verge of blowing up. The same goes for any BRICS country. Meanwhile, USA has stayed consistently on top, and is now the most diversified and robust economy in the world, and considered a safe heaven for everyone in the world including rich chinks that need to move money out of their country because it's a shit-hole.
>>74689880
Pic related is your natural facial expression
>>74687740
Saudi Arabia, via ''''''''tourism'''''''
The US is winning the Culture Victory and the Science Victory.
Diplomacy Victory was unselected during the pre-game setup.
Military Victory has not yet been decided though the US/NATO is the likely winner.
Nobody wins Time Victory.
>>74689813
Was Spain ever the seat of Catholicism?
Was the Pope ever based in Spain?
Was a 'roman empire' ever based in Spain?
Has Spain ever united Europe?
no?
France has.
They dropped out of the race with napoleons death tho.
>>74689773
>>74687740
End of history is a very 90s-00s idea.
>>74689495
>>74689888
leave troll
>>74687973
>Electricity is an invention
>Fission is an invention
>>74687740
America already won a culture victory
>>74689773
Shut your hole pinko.
So Culture or Time are the only realistic victory scenarios right?
>implying anyone cares about space colonization
>implying anyone would vote for a world leader
>implying anyone will manage to capture every capital city
>>74690087
>>74690087
Fucking burgers so dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_V,_Holy_Roman_Emperor
>>74687740
USA by technological, cultural, military and diplomatic victory no one even close to being second. Only real rivalry currently happening in geopolitics is between the decaying first world and european nations and the emerging world.
>>74690087
>Was Spain ever the seat of Catholicism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI
>Was the pope ever based in Spain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI
>Was a Roman empire ever based in Spain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_V,_Holy_Roman_Emperor
>>74690087
>Has Spain ever united Europe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_V,_Holy_Roman_Emperor
get out of here Francoboo
>>74689495
Russia with a science victory? Their universities went to shit after the fall of the Soviet Union. They can still produce decent scientists one in a while (which you would expect for a country this massive), but they all move to the West and never stay in Russia for too long. No scientific innovation comes from Russia directly those days.
>>74690407
That's not what he meant by "seat of Catholicism," see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy
>>74689934
More specifically the Citystate of Athens which is IN GREECE.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>74690556
Avignon wasn't part of France. It was a piece of the HRE run by German rulers and then later came under the direct administration of the Papal States.
Either way he's fucking wrong
>>74690600
pretty sure Athens is in Georgia, the GA museum of art is located there.
>>74687740
Israel. Total economic and cultural victory.
>>74689934
top bantz
>>74690178
I want to sexually FUCK this little warmonger
>>74690311
>charles V
A fake can never surpase the original
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne
>>74690407
see >>74690556
ur either a butt hurt 'latino' or an uneducated fuck
>>74690716
>The Avignon Papacy was the period from 1309 to 1377, during which seven successive popes resided in Avignon (then in the Kingdom of Arles, part of the Holy Roman Empire, and now in today's France) rather than in Rome.[1] This situation arose from the conflict between the Papacy and the French crown.
>The Kingdom of Arles (Arelat) or Second Kingdom of Burgundy was a Frankish dominion established from lands of the early medieval Kingdom of the Burgundians in 933 by the merger of the kingdoms of Upper and Lower Burgundy under King Rudolf II.
>>74687740
Sweden.
>>74690787
Not taking the bait.
>>74690950
>I want to sexually FUCK this little warmonger
Same but only if she yells at me in Spanish and calls me the devil.
>>74690960
why did you make this post if you were just going to agree exactly with what i said
>>74687740
China
>>74688840
Nice China not creative meme leaf.
>>74690511
*waves*
>>74687973
We didn't invent the printing press however we did perfect modern democracy.
But then we fucked it up.
>>74691074
Do you even know what the HRE was or are you just trolling?
>>74687827
Only this.
Would ISIS be a barbarian unit or are they a special unit from Iraq?
>>74687973
You can't be fucking serious... constitution, printing press, refrigeration, replaceable parts, satellites, computers... really? You couldn't even be fucked to do a quick Google search?
Hence 'education' is not on that list.
>>74689921
Launch those fucking nukes already then, you've never killed another civ.
>>74691216
not an argument.
>in Avignon (then in the Kingdom of Arles, part of the Holy Roman Empire
in Avignon (then in the Kingdom of Arles, part of the Holy Roman Empire
in Avignon (then in the Kingdom of Arles, part of the Holy Roman Empire
get the fuck out of here leaf if you don't know what you're even talking about
>>74688527
that's just how score is calculated; to win you have to meet one of the 5 >>74688553
criteria
>>74689624
>still butthurt from 20 keshik rush
>>74688840
if only Germans had enough "breathing room" to reproduce properly
>>74691044
Oh fuck you it's a really nice museum it might not be as nice as the national gallery of art architecture wise and may have a lot of contemporary shit compared to dc, but it also offers a lot of good stuff like the dress collection.
>>74691369
kress collection
>>74687740
I don't know how anyone could argue against the US.
China and India have potential but they've got major problems to overcome. The rest of the world is either stagnant or in relative decline.
>>74691319
Holy roman empire was France and Germany trying to continue Rome's legacy. There was also a distinct French part and German part.
Even Charles the great had them divided along similar borders that we see today.
Stop being butthurt spic
>>74687740
Is entropy a civilization? That one. Otherwise, none.
>>74691563
Moving the goalposts. The claim was that Avignon was part of France. Avignon was part of a Germanic kingdom which was subject to a German emperor and therefore France was not the seat of Catholicism as was claimed.
>>74690407
BASED american.
>>74691678
>>74687740
USSR.
We're a slave species from Stellaris
>>74691703
By that logic French Canadians and Basques don't exist
>>74691369
>>74691436
>t. American with German descent in Germany
Btw I think I may have heard you on vocaroo before, did you by any chance call me autistic on there when I was speaking with somebody else?
>>74691863
That's not the case at all. France in the context that we are discussing is a government body. French Canadians and Basques are a people group.
>>74691851
pretty sure they died after seeing star wars because of some kind of war cold they caught.
>>74691703
Your logic is terribly flawed, it was a french kingdom under holy roman rule, when the holy romans were german based
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Arles
the time of the avignon papacy though Im pretty sure they were under the french crown, because the avignon papacy was born of a dispute between the FRENCH crown and the Roman Church.
>>74691999
So then Avignon was (and still is) inhabited by French people, which makes it a French city
Also pic
>>74687740
USA has the strongest military
produces the most GDP per capita and total
dominating in cultural influence
#1 in technology
its not even close
>>74692096
It was not a French kingdom. The first kings were Franks, and later the kingdom fell into the possession of German kings. The some of the people living there may have been French, but that doesn't make it France.
>>74692213
Place where French people live != France
Maine and Louisiana are part of the United States buddy
>>74691856
>tfw America get's two armies to represent it while China, Russia and Europe only get one
>>74691998
No I'm not really american (yet) or "german". My girlfriend is American and we will marry as soon as I finish school here, then i'll sign up for the navy. I am a Transylvanian Saxon and really proud to be one, so I'm just kind of german, even though 3 of my great grand fathers served in the Waffen SS. But if it makes you happy, you certainly sound like one autistic fucker.
>>74691500
Israel has the most city-state allies, so when it feels like it, it will just repeal Nuclear Non-Proliferation and let the missiles fly.
>>74688888
Quintups
>>74692372
Frank=French
Avignon papacy was from 1309 to 1377
Check the link, avignon shouldve been a french possession at that time. Even though thats not how nationalities or cultures work.
also see the nice chart >>74692213
>>74692828
>Frank=French
You are quite simply wrong.
>>74687740
Can't really tell who's winning but I'm sure as fuck can tell who is losing with germany, sweden, uk, us and few other countries bleeding points left and right.
>>74692828
No not really. There is this reason called Franconia that culturally and linguistically resembles the Franks more than the frog eating chainsmokers of gallia ever could.
>>74693080
just like castillian isnt spainish right?
frankish is french
>>74693141
you're only disagreeing because you dont want to be associated with the present day french
Israel.
>muh jidf kike gtfo faggot
aside, think about it:
This group of people has managed to take over the entire world, rule over it with an iron fist, and can deflect any form of criticism back at the opposing force under the guise of "being anti-semetic".
If that isn't "winning" at real life, then I don't know what is.
>>74693440
Franks were a Germanic tribe. French are a Latin people that emerged several hundred years after the Franks crossed the Rhine.
>>74693741
Yes he won't believe me that the Franks and their decedents live in a place call Franconia, right in the middle of Germany, speaking German.
>>74693954
The only way he can defend his retarded and unfounded fanboyism of France is through outright lying.
He probably just got done watching the Aristocats.
>>74689089
This is probably the most accurate post.
>>74694038
I know it's odd because usually Americans know to appreciate places like Nuremberg and one of the only big gun stores is called Franconia. It's one of the best places over here and they love you guys especially in places like Würzburg where you guys employed a lot of people and made a lot of babies. Why would anyone prefer the french to the franks?
>>74692533
>you certainly sound like one autistic fucker
I don't understand, how the fuck can people realize I suffer from mild autism, even when I type things out? Yes, I do have Aspergers but you aren't supposed to be able to know that on the fucking Internet.
How the hell are you able to know that?
>>74689992
FUCKING
>>74694875
people can just tell what we have, it's like a missing chunk in your head that makes you socially awkward, speak in ways people don't speak, misunderstanding queues, inappropriate obsessions, self-absorption, etc. it's easy for normies to pick up on
>>74688527
America already won cultural victory, fucking UN , Hollywood , coca cola , mcdonalds , nike , blue jeans.
>VICTORY CONDITIONS
Conquest: Russia
Culture: Japan
Domination: China
Space Race: USA
Diplomacy: Germany
Time: [spoiler]India
>>74687740
The Jews
>>74687973
Whoever invents things doesn't win. Most countries in the world that aren't African have access to such technologies
Also a lot of what you mentioned what like you said done in cooperative efforts with European countries, or discovered before to some extent. Sumerians and Iranians had codes of just that were 'constitutions'. The Chinese made printing press without meeting the Germans who also made printing press around the same time in the 15th cent
>>74687740
This game of civilisation only as 'conquest' win as an objective win/ Domination would be a checkpoint, everything else doesn't matter because they can change too quickly
>>74688840
Don't hate yourself m8,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talas
The only reason the west and sandniggers had paper so early was because of the Chinese
>>74688925
Their negligible population, shit diplomatic relationships with many world powers, don't think so
>>74689036
China is a much more formidable enemy to the US in the long term. Putin as an AI is 'aggressive' though while Xi is 'organised'
What you're right about though is that Putin has a much stronger grip on power while Chinese internal politics actually has two factions, those following Jiang Zemin and Hu Zintao (who also chose Xi, but his anti corruption purges fucked them up and made it clear that he wanted to be the actual leader)
>>74689495
The West is kind of eating each other, not really. All the Western European civs are 'friendly' or 'pleased' with each other while all the Eastern European civs are 'annoyed' or 'furious' at each other.
>>74689773
>Canadian shitposting
The barbarians are winning. Every Civ has at least -20 happiness and their tiles are all about to get pillaged to shit.
>>74695134
H-hold me, Portbro.. I feel, alone.
>>74687740
America has won a cultural victory already but that can be repealed. Fuck tho its so depressing going anywhere and seeing bullshit American culture smeared everywhere
>>74689044
he was an american citizen
does england still own the US?
Obviously America.
We're winning domination, science and culture.
As mentioned in this thread, USA is closest to cultural victory, Israel is closest to diplomatic victory.
OP this you
>>74687740
>country =/= civilization
>tfw mongols almost got domination 700 years ago
>tfw brits almost got it 150 years ago
>>74687803
>>74687846
>Most imprisoned population of any country, and in all of history.
>Most income inequality.
>Most reported male on male rapes.
>Highest gun deaths in peace time.
USA
Yes.
>>74689773
Kind of like Canada with the Injun population? I guess that means you're out too.
>>74694962
LEAF
this threads clearly about to 404 so ill just slip in a black cleopatra to remind everyone black people have the biggest population and most natural wonders by far
>>74692228
And you're currently at risk of letting Saudi Arabia religion spam their way to victory
not us this is for sure
Prolly China, ever since 2008.
The United States is still militarily-dominant but has over 19 trillion worth of debt
>>74687740
ATTILA THE FUCKING HUN
>>74689773
fuck off, canada is the most insignificant country to ever exist and hasn't gave the world anything except donkeyshit leftism and AIDS
If Trump wins, America wins.
http://northwestfront.org/2016/05/radio-free-northwest-may-19th-2016/
Go to 8:00
Time for common sense in America.
>>74690178
Cute.
Would mingle kingdoms with again.
>>74690950
>original """""french"""""
>implying charlemagne was nothing more than a german barbarian
>implying nationality was even important at those times when setting up a Empire.
Burgers, stop commenting history before being able to read. Thanks.
>>74687740
Arabia
>Entire world afraid to challenge Islam
>Breeding like rabbits
>Lets other Muslim nations fight it out for them
>Spreading ideological pressure via open borders
>>74687789
this, we won a cultural victory
enjoy our language and blue jeans euroshits
>>74688594
please lrn2history or never post again
Culture (implies we all become friends because identical)
Science (nobody has blasted off to play Beyond Earth)
Military (hundreds of countries remain)
Diplomatic (no world leader yet)
Time (rapture or Armageddon hasnt occured)
>>74706472
what? if shekel making was not your goal, any living jeehabee would be cleared out in less then a week..
kebabs my ass
>>74687973
Ecology is a German idea coined by Ernst Haeckel.
