Tries to be Christian, but hates refugees: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/china-uk-welcoming-refugees-russia-160519044808608.html
The European council for human rights has condemned their ban on Scientology as discrimination: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/23/russian-court-bans-moscow-branch-church-of-scientology
Here is some more evidence that Russia is the Saudi Arabia of Christianity
Atheist on trial for these comments
>“If I say that the collection of Jewish fairytales entitled the Bible is complete bullshit, that is that. At least for me,” Krasnov wrote, adding later “there is no God!”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/03/russian-atheist-faces-year-in-jail-for-denying-existence-of-god-during-webchat
Church seeks to take over internet: https://www.rt.com/politics/321064-holy-wi-fi-russian-church/
Protestants are banned from proselytizing and referred to openly as "heretics": http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/europe/23iht-church.4.12274801.html?_r=0
Judge rules Russian Church can pay debts with prayer: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/14/russian-orthodox-church-diocese-settles-debt-payments-with-prayer/
Banned swearing in artistic expression: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/europe/russia-swearing-law/
Banned freedom of gay expression, fires teacher for supporting gay marriage: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/russia-gay-law-teachers_n_6994274.html
State and Church sign agreement to restrict abortion: http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/2015/07/russia-church-and-state-sign-agreement-to-prevent-abortion/#.Vt0TBPkrJmM
Russia contemplating switching to an "Orthodox" system of finance that would drop out of the IMF and ban interest on moneylending: http://www.globalresearch.ca/interest-free-banking-russia-debates-unorthodox-orthodox-financial-alternative/5495331
>>74639110
>Try to wipe out Christians in Russia during communism
Fedorafags reap what they sow
>>74639340
>it's okay to ban free speech when it's for us
What happened to /pol/ libertarian backbone?
wew
christfags are worse than fedoras
>>74639340
>it's another /pol/ pretends to be christian episode
>>74639110
BASED RUSSIA They should drop Orthodoxy for Protestantism
>>74639433
>>74639110
>Protestants are banned from proselytizing and referred to openly as "heretics": http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/europe/23iht-church.4.12274801.html?_r=0
>>74639110
>Protestants are banned from proselytizing and referred to openly as "heretics": http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/europe/23iht-church.4.12274801.html?_r=0
Now they've fucking angered me
>pointing out that banning Scientology is a bad thing
Have you prayed L.R. Hubbard today burger lad? I hope this disease remains in your country because it's Muslim-tier shit.
>>74639110
>christfags thinking they're any different than muzzies when given the chance
fucking kek
>>74639384
This is what communism does to your brain
>>74639110
But Judaism and Islam are still allowed. Hmm, makes you think.
Scientology should definitely be banned everywhere under punishment of death.
>>74639599
Says the guy who's nation is founding islamists beheaders
>>74639599
No kidding
>>74639612
They get sanction because they've had a large presence in Russia as long as Christianity
>>74639110
BASED RUSSIA
Literally fuck you fedorafags and your 'do as you please' libertarianism. The only way to avert a collapse is to have full on cultural enforcement. Fuck libertardians, Milofags and Trumpfags. Based Putin.
>>74639433
Protestantism is just one step from atheism.
>>74639110
BEST COUNTRY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, GOD BLESS.
>>74639433
>>74639506
>>74639509
Anglos on suicide watch!
>>74639110
Fucking bullshit, Russia. Literally jailing people for being skeptical.
>>74639599
Keep telling yourself that, turkroach. We don't want to wipe you out and rape your dog-faced women. We just want you to go back to your own clay and stay there. Find a way to succeed on your own without being a burden on a true ascended race.
>>74639701
What can we slavs do about the eternal anglo? Seems like they want to ruin everything good with their autistic/atheistic (same thing) libertarianism.
I like how you made the same thread yesterday and made it again today after most everyone sided with Russia in your last one.
>>74639770
>true ascended race.
Lmao, liberalism is a strictly white only disease.
Nice masterrace you got there. You stupid delusional fucking leaf.
>>74639110
based russia now fire a few satans on the devil worshiping usa and make god great again
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/russia-test-unstoppable-satan-2-7935675
>>74639805
I'm trying a different time rotation, I want to figure out where all the libertarians went. Libertarianism used to be the soul of this board but it appears to have vanished because of Stormfront
>>74639802
Do about them? Haha NOTHING!
They will exterminate themselves by the end of the century. WE SLAVS WILL REIGN HAHA WHO'S NOT WHITE NOW?
>>74639832
>liberalism is a strictly white only disease
Liberalism is a mental disease relating to compassion, goaded on by the jew.
Also,
>A FUCKING MOON
![kirill[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/RYiShsR.gif "kirill[1].gif")
>le draditinal ordodox balues :DDDD
>>74639925
You all need Yeltsin back
>>74639877
You can hate Jews and Muslims and still be a libertarian.
>>74639877
Most of them realised they don't blend in well with nationalists (and economic nationalists) so they're probably off to reddit where they belong.
I don't know if there's a god, I don't call myself an atheist, I don't care about religion in general, the only faith that offends me is Islam. What does that make me?
>>74640028
Um. A racist anon.
>>74640028
Agnostic.
>>74639384
>>74639925
Your glory days are over commie, make way for the supreme Russia that will actually survive the global cuckening.
>>74640054
Kek
>Muslim
>race
Epic maymay
>>74639110
>Banning scientology
>bad
Literally a meme religion
>>74639110
>Russia hates atheism reeeee
It's almost like Russia has a history of atheism killing 80+ million of its citizens or something.
Gee I wonder why they wouldn't want it to spread.
>>74640128
All religions are
>>74640158
*tips fedora*
interesting developments in russia. agree with some disagree with others. image related is obviously based and all countries should aspire to be more like russia.
i like the banning of scientology. there should be freedom of religion but only to a point. scientology,mormonism, islam are sufficiently retarded that they should just be banned.
if a private organisation wants to put out free wifi they can put restrictions on it who cares.
protestant article is exaggerated. most churches have faced no issues.
kinda sucks to be gay but then i find most gay rights activism to be too in your face and flamboyant. they should have gone for a more moderate approach.
russia will never adopt the orthodox approach to finance kek
all your sources are uber left, you should start reading new sources OP.
>>74639433
Excellent post 8/8
>>74640183
>74%
Fugg :DD
>>74640083
>a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God
Is that seen as degenerate? Sounds rational to me.
>>74639378
while I may not agree with their methods, itmakes me happy to see somebody ruthlessly defending christianity as is done for islam. eurocucks have no respect for their heritage.
How can one country be so based?
![PGMfat[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SAj4BZI.jpg "PGMfat[1].jpg")
>>74639605
and this is what christianity does to your brain
>>74640150
>>74640233
>Is that seen as degenerate?
As long as you uphold the Christian values, you don't really need to believe in God. I personally am not sure if there is a higher power out there, but I believe that stopping faggots from fagging etc is the staple of civilization. Otherwise you get modern age and fall of Rome.
>>74640150
>killing 80+ million of its citizens
Can we stop this meme?
All of this is topical populism blown out of proportion by westerm media to support the "le opressive Boudine Russia" narrtive to prop up a boogeyman.
Russians are at the most degenerate point ever, as a society, money is god, and the Orthodox church is all about making money,
They don't clamp down on other religious scams because of MUH VALUES, they're just weeding out competition.
Abortions at an all time high, population everywhere except muslim regions is dropping.
These "bans" and "laws" don't actually DO anything, as there is no precendental basis to envoke and enforce them.
You've all been memed pretty hard, /pol/. Classic Hegelian Deialectic con.
![StalinRPЦ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Tulz37j.jpg "StalinRPЦ[1].jpg")
>>74640150
>>74640249
except all religions date back to paganism, you fucking retard.
>>74639699
How so?
On what theological and\or philosophical basis do you make this claim?
>>74640443
He means all the guys who first started saying Christ didn't really perform miracles were all German Protestants. I forget their names, but someone posted a list in a thread on /his/, it was back in the 1800's.
This dictator will do whatever it takes to keep power. And it's not gonna be him creating economic growth for his people LOL
>>74639110
You made this thread yesterday.
>Tries to be Christian, but hates refugees:
You are just jealous.
>The European council for human rights has condemned their ban on Scientology as discrimination
The European Council is a joke.
>Atheist on trial for these comments
We have a law that says you cannot attack Christianity in that sort of way.
>Church seeks to take over internet:
This is just wi-fi. Not them taking over the internet.
>Protestants are banned from proselytizing and referred to openly as "heretics"
They are not banned. Russia just favors Orthodoxy.
>Judge rules Russian Church can pay debts with prayer:
Debt relief is quite common.
>Banned swearing in artistic expression:
Just the same sort of law as the ones which are in place in other countries.
>Banned freedom of gay expression, fires teacher for supporting gay marriage:
Gays are not welcome.
>State and Church sign agreement to restrict abortion
Abortion is a major problem in Russia.
>Russia contemplating switching to an "Orthodox" system of finance that would drop out of the IMF and ban interest on moneylending
This is just banks offering alternative services.
Stop making this thread.
>>74639506
That's unfortunate that they would opt for a bunch of Eastern mysticism over biblical Christianity. Oh well they will have to incur the wrath of God.
>>74640406
in different regions, retard. you really do sound like a bo-borders leftshitter. this is why libertarianism died on /pol/; it is weak to the dangers of today. it does not hold up in reality.
>>74640318
I am definitely in favor of Christian values. I just can't seem to open my mind to believing there is one absolute "god", or what that would even mean. I also can't imagine myself feeling spiritual, or believing in an afterlife, going to church, etc.
The main thing for me is how there are so many variations of religion. If there was just one, I could probably get behind it more. Like how there is just one agreed upon standard for mathematics. You don't have groups of people that use certain rules of addition or multiplication.
>>74640636
It's not like Protestant governments, like Sweden and England, are any better, they're just a different kind of bad.
>>74640309
better watch out or putin is commiing for you
>>74640545
European Christianity has always been liberal. American Protestants have been conservative. If anything Roman Catholics (See Boston College) and Eastern Orthodox have been shifting towards leftism in the past few centuries. Gradually denying inerrancy, and the rest.
>>74639699
Hardly. It's a consistent worldview. Roman Catholicism is just a false teaching that leads people to becoming cafeteria Catholics and next to impose their newly found liberal beliefs on the church.
Eastern Orthodoxy leads to major atheism and just flat out nominalism. See the patriarch of Montenegro saying Muslims worship the same God as Christians.
>>74640712
This is what your forefathers wrote about when they meant separation of church and state.
As the communist subverted the governments and pushed liberalism the state churches naturally became more liberal in their doctrine.
>>74639110
>Judge rules Russian Church can pay debts with prayer: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/14/russian-orthodox-church-diocese-settles-debt-payments-with-prayer/
Holy fugg we should try this.
>>74640744
>European Christianity has always been liberal.
What about when the Puritans ruled England after the Civil War?
I don't know enough about theology to know if you're right. /his/ debates this a lot, I don't really care. I do know that if Orthodox is atheist, needs to start showing it is in policy.
>Be Russian
>Forced to believe in invisible all controlling deity
Lol fun country.
>>74639599
Any country that leaves under the law of God will be blessed by God.
Lol, even in Tsar's Russia they didn't jailed people for this kind of statments. Also, it's mostly ex-commies in our parlaiment come out with ideas of those retarded laws, about censoring and banning everything. God, when all old hags, who were born and lived in USSR die? We can't have good things untill then.
>>74640796
So you're a secularist? But you want atheism banned?
The American Forefathers, especially Paine, and Jefferson and Franklin, thought Christianity was a crock, that's why they wanted the separation.
>>74640612
Banks offering alternative services? you must be kidding right? banks are lending institutions, if it weren't for laws, they probably wont even keep enough to cover bank runs.
The only way the banks could still exist is if they do what Muslims do, and that's buy out the property or businesses or what ever, and then sell it to the person at a profit, with set timed repayments.
>>74640843
Most of Russia is Orthodox in name only.
>>74640839
/his/ is full of OrthoLARPers so I am sure to stay away.
The Puritans fled to America but their reasons were they were more Reformed/Calvinist and after the Archbishop Laud they never felt comfortable. The Puritans ruled under Cranmer. But I am talking in recent years 19th century onwards Europe has pushed liberalism onto Christianity.
Also bringing their naturalistic presuppositions to the fields of textual critics and resurrection scholarship.
>>74640843
>Sweden
>>74640949
So are Sikhs and Protestants and Catholics, that's not the problem here
>>74639392
This is a Christian board, you cuck.
>>74640843
Your atheism is fueled by your hedonism
>>74640904
Theonomist : )
>>74640949
That's what is bad about EOy.
>>74640863
They already brought up a league of secondary psychopaths like Potupchik and Shlegel (hohols and Jews) and have bred silver caviar spoon childen of their own to take their place.
It will never end. We're doomed.
>>74640955
They fled to America because they couldn't force their religion in government.
>>74640150
>It's almost like Russia has a history of atheism killing 80+ million of its citizens or something.
Communists are still very popular in Russia. Probably the most popular political party, I'm not sure. And communists killed all those people....
>>74641009
>Theonomist
Then you oppose separation of church and state?
if you think about it rationally, there is some logic to it
we know Scientology is a dangerous cult with the sole purpose of taking peoples' money, and then threatening them with surveillance and threats. and atheism is the dangerous beilef that nothing conjured up a bunch of magic soup, which conjured up humans with emotions. a belief where there is no right or wrong. it's also a dangerous cult, not least because many atheists don't even think their position is a belief, but is just a position of fact.
there's nothing more dangerous than a serial killer who believes he's acting rationally. it's probably more dangerous than scientology.
>>74641049
>the most popular political party,
Not even close
>>74641024
The government wuz oppresin' dem
>>74641084
Yes if you take like I do and translate that to no state run church.
>>74641049
Communists are the second biggest. Putin's Party dominates.
>>74641137
>The government wuz oppresin' dem
And they did the same to others once they had the reigns.
>Yes if you take like I do and translate that to no state run church.
Just banning the ones you don't like? So basically like Russia, except for your sort of Christianity instead of theirs?
>>74641123
Absolutely this. Most atheist since their atheism is fueled by meme scientist like Bill Nye, comedians and hedonism never ponder their atheism.
They read Dawkins but not people like Anthony Flew, Bertrand Russell or Alex Rosenberg.
In atheism there is no objective morality, to objective truth, it leads to skepticism, nihilism and to stagnation. God has truly made foolish the wisdom of the world.
>>74639110
how is this a bad thing?
>>74641006
no it's not you priest-dick-choking faggot
pol is an atheist/agnostic board because we are red pilled here.
>>74641162
>Putin's Party dominates.
Medvedev's Party :^)
>>74641162
You guys need a bigger libertarian party
>>74641233
I don't understand. I am against a state run/taxpayer funded church. I would however allow other religions (Roman Catholics, Buddhist, Jews).
>>74641264
Of course. :^)
>>74641130
Well it's not like there are free elections in Russia but last time I checked they were the top party.
>>74641286
Libertarianism is non-existent.
>>74641294
Did you last check in the 1990s?
>>74641289
Biblical law doesn't permit worship of foreign gods
>>74641294
Not even close
>>74639110
It will go full saudi,
the native birthrate is down. At least 40% muslim population coming in 20 years.
>>74641309
That's why you have this Putin problem to begin with, no libertarian choice
>>74641286
Libertarianism is cancer. Good thing we have so few showings of it in the Eastern world. Libertarianism is what led to the degeneracy in the west.
>>74641286
Russians don't understand private property, Natural Law and want to be on top without actually putting any tangible work. Libertarianism doesn't have a chance here.
>>74641243
How does the bible offer objective morality?
Atheists practice pragmatism, we are not confined to what a single book tells us.
>>74641009
>Your atheism is fueled by your hedonism
You got a fucking problem with that?
>>74641373
Libertarianism does not fit in with Russian society and culture.
>>74641294
>>74641324
If Putin didn't rig elections more than half of your Duma would be red.
But its no like it isn't anyway, since most of those people in United Russia were USSR Central Committee and there are no such thing as an ex-commie.
>>74641395
Objective morality is morality that exist independent of whether we view it as right.
Whereas atheism can't offer anything besides subjective morality.
>>74641423
Absolutely not but it's funny when you losers try and twist to make it sound intellectual.
>>74641460
I also read that he rigged elections heavily, I forget the article
>>74641486
A example would be....?
>>74641460
>If Putin didn't rig elections more than half of your Duma would be red.
Highly doubt this.
>and there are no such thing as an ex-commie.
Funny thing about this logic is that it means that people like Mussolini must have still been Communists.
>>74639110
>make atheism illigal
>atheist gets asked if they believe in god
>lies to them and tells them yes
>atheist gets left alone
and how are Russians going full saudi again?
it could be much much worse like reverse communism
>>74641286
not gonna happen
russians literally hate freedom
>>74641395
if imaginary man in the sky makes it so, then it must be so
no ifs ands or buts
it is a great moral system if you're an 8 year old
>>74641539
Example of what? Objective morality only exists in the framework of theism. If you are an atheist I can't list you an example since we don't share the same presuppositions (i.e. existence of God).
But nonetheless the 10 commandments. God ordained them. They are true whether you reject them or not.
>>74641424
In a biblical and theonomist society there would be no taxation. No welfare and corporate handouts. No public education or healthcare. All done by the community.
>>74641460
>If Putin didn't rig elections more than half of your Duma would be red.
If Putin didn't rig elections more than half of our Duma would be fucking empty because most people are dim witted idiots who don't give a fuck about anything
>>74641587
huehuehue
It's something you have to take into consideration before you go on ranting about the immorality of the Christian God. Since you have no basis from which you can criticise it.
>>74641460
You realise the Russian "Communist" Party is basically nationalist and right-wing, right? Your choices in Russia are Lite-Nationalism (United Russia), Extreme Nationalism (Liberal Democrats) and Red Nationalism (Communists). I wish it were like that here, instead it's globalists all over.
>>74641549
What is with Russians and "this logic" etc
It seems that its your only argument: "by that logic" and its a textbook straw man, comparing two different things as the same
>>74641539
a King takes your shit and fucks your wife. he does so because he can. he gets his dick pleasured, and he gets more stuff.
the atheist argument of people doing well to others so they get the same respect back, falls down in this situation. you can't do shit to the king. he's the king, he has a castle, an army, guards, and you have a potato sack as a piece of clothing.
if the King is a true bible believing Christian, he'll respect you as a fellow God created soul
>>74641577
Come to america if you want some freedom rusya.
There's plenty to go around.
>>74639576
Banning scientology makes sense, it's a brutish cult based on a science fiction novel and the acquisition of easy bux.
Nobody so eager to spend themselves into economical and physical ruin as a true believer, that goes for all religions.
>>74641698
They call it Left Wing Nationalism. They want strong state like in the USSR but with Russian Nationalism thrown on top. They also support Orthodoxy as unifier of the nation or something to bring it back to the subject of the thread.
>>74641711
To show that your logic is failing.
>>74641539
The right to hold slaves
>>74639110
How many times did you make this thread again?
>>74641698
>right wing nationalist
No, its full of senile fools like Zuganov, who think the world is the same as it was 50 years ago, with "internationalism" and so on.
>>74641824
The floodgates are opened. Time for shoody atheist exegesis of the Bible. Woot woot.
>>74641698
>. I wish it were like that here,
Then you'd be even poorer and more corrupt, which is hard to imagine possible LOL
>>74639110
The Third Rome rises.
>>74640406
Care to expound?
>>74641847
They are not internationalists. They are all Stalinist Russia-First sorts of people. What you would call Orthodox Marxists lost any influence in the Russian Communist Party a decade ago.
>>74639378
Libertarianism is for edgelords who can't quite assent to anarchy.
>>74641755
Incorrect, the pragmatic approach would vive la revolution.
french revolution is very much godless, the french monarchs army didn't do him any good
>>74641847
>The party is in favour of cooperation with the Russian Orthodox Church.[21]
>The party supported a ban on the "promotion of non-traditional sexual relations to minors",[25][26] mostly named a ban on "homosexual propaganda to minors" in Western media.[27]
kek, I don't think so. They're right-wing as they come, as based Russiaanon said, they're mostly economic leftists.
>>74641755
Wow. You right those christian kings were always so respectful.Sure am glad god gave him divine right to my wife's pussy or i might have tried to get rid of him.
>>74641711
Whataboutism, dialectics and other fallacies are considered fair and respected argumentative tools over here. Just get the last word in and you're good in everyone's book.
"Штиpлиц знaл, чтo из paзгoвopa вceгдa зaпoминaeтcя тoлькo пocлeдняя фpaзa"
well yeah, if you're a low IQ Russian-Finno-Ugric-Asian peasant who doesn't understand anything and has no worldview discenring tools
>>74641944
This just goes back to Stalin in honesty. They also want to ban abortion etc. Stalin did all those things.
>>74641862
Hello Soros.
>>74639110
>Protestants are banned from proselytizing and referred to openly as "heretics"
I don't see a problem with this, protestants are heretics.
>>74641967
My main issue with Stalin is his creation of artificial states like FYROM, Ukraine, Moldova etc.
>>74641880
>Metropolitan Kirill of Smolensk worked for the KGB under the code name “MIKHAYLOV”; Metropolitan Filaret of Minsk has just been identified as having labored for the KGB under the codename “OSTROVSKY”; Metropolitan Kliment of Kaluga was recently discovered to have been listed under the codename “TOPAZ”.
>When the bells at Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow announced that a new patriarch had been elected, Metropolitan Kirill, aka “MIKHAYLOV,” proved to be the winner. Presumably, the KGB/FSB considered him to be in a better position to carry out its tasks abroad, where he had directed his efforts during most of his professional life. In 1971, the KGB had sent him to Geneva (Switzerland) as a representative of the Russian Orthodox Church to the World Council of Churches (WCC), the largest international ecumenical organization after the Vatican, representing some 550 million Christians of various denominations throughout 120 countries. His task was to use his position in the WCC to spread the doctrine of Liberation Theology—a Marxist religious movement born in the KGB—throughout Latin America. In 1975, the KGB had infiltrated “MIKHAYLOV” into the WCC’s central committee, and in 1989 the KGB had appointed him chairman of the Russian patriarchate’s foreign relations as well—positions he still held when he was “elected” patriarch. Indeed, in his acceptance speech “MIKHAYLOV” announced that he would establish religious television channels in Russia that would broadcast abroad.
>>74639110
why is russia so awesome
>>74639110
God bless you, Russia
>>74642014
Well it was not really an issue in his time because he ruled them all so it was just internal administration. FYROM was Tito though.
>>74639110
I can't say I disagree with most of those
but I will err on the side of freedom
I have to I am a burger after all
>>74641940
Yeah but that was hardly any better than the communist revolution
>>74640744
>Patriarch of Montenegro
No such thing.
russia is a retarded third worldshithole. don't pay attention to us
>>74642023
Is there a reliable source for this? Would be interesting to post against Christians on /his/
>>74640929
You're jealous.
>>74642136
Won't you be sent to a gulag for such comments?
>>74639649
>Scientology should definitely be banned everywhere under punishment of death.
Chanology survivor detected
>>74642147
>Metropolitan Kirill
Just look up "Metropolitan Kirill kgb"
multiple sources come up
>>74642041
Euthanasia is the best cure
>>74641698
> Your choices in Russia are Lite-Nationalism (United Russia), Extreme Nationalism (Liberal Democrats) and Red Nationalism (Communists). I wish it were like that here, instead it's globalists all over.
holy shit top kek
>he thinks any of these parties actually do anything, and aren't just figureheads cranking out miles of literally useless populistic legislation to cover up the complete dismantling of property rights and low yield private economy sector
lol Russia boos are the fucking best, i swear
>>74639110
>RUSSIA GOES FULL SAUDI
Can't be said better. Islam is state protected religion together with Orthodox Church in Russia. Guess who will prevail in the long term.
>>74642023
>>74642050
Was Russia even full Internationalist Marxist post Stalin? I thought it was just a Russian Empire with a red coat of paint.
>>74642221
I mean the original source
>>74639110
>Atheist on trial for these comments
We have somewhat recent law about muh religious people feelings, so of course trials like this will be present. In my opinion its fucking terrible because it just enables tool to police anyone who had any kind of disagreement with religious.
>>74642188
Eeverybody knows this, nobody cares about anything
>>74639110
It's true what they say... the more religious a country, the more laughably pathetic it is.
>>74642259
>>he thinks any of these parties actually do anything, and aren't just figureheads cranking out miles of literally useless populistic legislation to cover up the complete dismantling of property rights and low yield private economy sector
Libertarians are the worse. Nation > individual.
>>74642288
Lot of Niggers were brought in as students after African independence starting from 1960's. Mostly to Moscow, but also to other republics of USSR
>>74641970
This is not an argument against kleptocratic government, slavified turkroach.
>>74641343
>Biblical law doesn't permit worship of foreign gods
Jesus said let the blind man lead the blind man.
It's up to you if you believe him or not.
>>74642288
Pretty much. Most Internationalist Marxists started condemning the Soviet Union because it was just taking whatever it wanted from other countries under the banner of cooperation, labelling it as Social Imperalism.
>>74641883
Well just look at the blacks here. Those motherfuckers had their entire religion down but had not even invented the god damn wheel.
>>74639832
>"nice masterrace you got there" t. a 3rd world nation existing only because white nations allow it
>>74642396
Jesus didn't advocate his teachings become state law either though
>>74642023
So what? It doesn't affect their sacraments and Kyrill recently likened himself to St. Mark of Ephesus.
If you want to talk about Orthodox hierarchs that do political bidding, look to the patriarch of Istanbul who is practically on the dole of the CIA.
>>74642288
>>74642366
>The Soviet Union is often presented as a largely isolated and idiosyncratic state. Soviet Internationalism after Stalin challenges this view by telling the story of Soviet and Latin American intellectuals, students, political figures and artists, and their encounters with the 'other' from the 1950s through the 1980s. In this first multi-archival study of Soviet relations with Latin America, Tobias Rupprecht reveals that, for people in the Second and Third Worlds, the Cold War meant not only confrontation with an ideological enemy, but also increased interconnectedness with distant world regions. He shows that the Soviet Union looked quite different from a southern rather than a western point of view and also charts the impact of the new internationalism on the Soviet Union itself in terms of popular perceptions of the USSR's place in the world and its political, scientific, intellectual and cultural reintegration into the global community.
http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/history/russian-and-east-european-history/soviet-internationalism-after-stalin-interaction-and-exchange-between-ussr-and-latin-america-during-cold-war
>>74642366
Those were mainly children of Soviet-aligned african dictators though. No different from the western ones.
>>74642221
Who cares? You had to be a KGB member to do anything in the USSR. It doesn't mean he was killing people.
>>74639110
>BANS SCIENTOLOGY
Nothing of value is lost.
>church seeks to take over internet
Now thats kinda true. Orthodox church lobbied some shitty laws that make them special snowflakes that can sue everyone if their feelings are itching.
Other information provided in OPpost is overreacting liberal shit. Also heretics.
>>74642350
what the fuck are you even talking about you retarded Putinboo, nothing these parties do benefits the Russian nation in any way, you retarded hick
>>74639110
>the Saudi Arabia of Christianity
> 1 million HIV positive
> Divorce rate on par with marriages
> Alcoholism is a national tradition
> Cleptomany is a religion
The fuck are you talking about?
>>74642445
Most of the current Russian elite is made up of old KGB and their cronies. Russia takes all the credit for Soviet achievements, while never taking any responsibility for its wrongdoings. Even against its own people.
Here, a great example of revisionism under Putin
>Russia's Gulag Museum Shuts Doors Amid Mounting State Pressure
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/516920.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russia-perm-36-gulag-museum-forced-close-its-doors-novorossiya-museum-open-1490496
>Russia’s only Gulag memorial is redesigned to celebrate the Gulag
https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/03/05/russia-s-only-gulag-memorial-is-redesigned-to-celebrate-the-gulag
This revisionism has gone so far that Stalin now is praised as a hero and saint
>Stalin museum to open in Russia
https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/03/11/stalin-museum-to-open-in-russia
AND if you read in Russian
>Глaвa PПЦ зacтyпилcя зa Лeнинa и Cтaлинa
http://direct-press.ru/v-rossii/69267-glava-rpts-zastupilsya-za-lenina-i-stalina
Translation: Head of Russias Orthodox Church defends Lenin and Stalin
>>74642445
Isn't the one in Istanbul a freemason as well?
Feels good to live in the only actually free country in the world right now
>>74642310
Would deeply appreciate this if anyone has it
thanks
>>74642382
You got any proof of that being done? Other than Open Society propaganda?
>>74639110
The Church has always been a useful apparatus in a totalitarian state. I guess Putin is moving forward with his plans.
What stops someone from choosing satanism which is basically a edgy form for atheism
Based Putin, fucking pinkos in these threads MAD AS FUC
>>74642543
He was the first Russian leader to criticize Lenin, to be fair, although he tried to pass off the Bolsheviks as "mostly Jews"
>>74639110
Russia is a fucking shithole.
>>74641006
You must be pretty upset that Ireland is atheist now. Suck a priests dick.
>>74642621
Nothing unless they decide that has to be outlawed as well
>>74639110
secularism is a good thing even from a Christian perspective
>>74642487
From what I can gather from this, it's saying that internationalism is good and USSR was bad for being isolationist. Yeah, nah. Nationalism > Globalism.
>>74642535
No politician does anything to benefit the Russian nation, Putin does the best for it overall when you compare yourself to all the other choices. And in the end, all politicians go for their own benefit, but it's better for them to pass nationalist legislation than SJW legislation while doing so.
There is literally no difference between a Russian Duma member and a UK MP other than the former passing nationalist legislation and the latter SJW legislation, that's why the Russian gets my vote.
>>74641698
Dude nationalism is banned in Russia. There are literally Constitution and Criminal code articles against it. And this code is enforced. Russia is globalist too but with different flavour of asian tyranny and more capitalist profit seeking with limited welfare.
>>74642681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDhYPt5y3UY
>>74642632
That's right, Ahmed, Russia is muslim now. Allahu akbar!
>>74642715
Russian state favors imperialism over nationalism, because nationalism would limit its ability to be imperialist. Always been this way for most of the time. I blame Mongols.
This thread again? Same OPic as well.
>>74642715
Dugin isn't a nationalist?
Dog bless :DDDDDDDDD
Bsest country in the world.
Next step-ban islam
>>74642805
He is batshit crazy looney
>>74642805
He is irrelevant loonie. Stop bringing him up.
>>74639110
>Your rights end where my feelings begin
>>74642739
That guy is protestant. You can tell from his facial features and hair.
>>74642566
It's well known that the Russian government is synonymous with corruption, turkroach.
>>74639911
>>74639832
I'm a liberal in the sense that i idealize personal responsibility and personal responsibility assuming you are responsible enough to have it.
I believe that you should make sure that if you decide to help somebody, you have the resources where the act of compassion doesn't hurt you, denmark should never have went with the refugee quota, we're too small to help much as it is.
Most of all i believe in self-improvement and making reasonable decisions guided by practicality.
>>74639110
God Bless Russia. Light of the world!
>>74639110
But Islam is pretty much the be-all and end-all of why Saudi Arabia is shit. I see nothing wrong with a country that adheres strongly to a civilised ideology, rather than a backwards death cult.
>>74642936
Not any more corrupt than your western puppet Obama, Soros.
>>74642878
>>74642896
So Foundations of Geopolitics has had no relevance?
>>74642923
He's from Cork ya dunce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z96-B9uhlY
>>74642711
>passing nationalist legislation
Like pushing more fractional reserve banking and setting up countless puppet bureacracies to skim more money from the working people? WOW THAT'S SO NATIONALIST
>that's why the Russian gets my vote.
Nah, i think your ATAKA vote is bought with money from the Russian PA, just like every other Putnboo in Europe.
I've given you the benefit of the doubt at first, but after a couple of posts i see that you're just a paid shill.
Don't even respond to this, i have nothing to say to you anymore.
>>74642444
Jesus is the God of Christianity his words are very clear.
>>74642778
> because nationalism would limit its ability to be imperialist.
It is because Russian tsars rarely were Russian themselves, there were Vikangz first and Germans latter. Soviets were even worth: jew, Georgian, hohol, wow Russian, hohol, Russian again and finaly Finn.
>>74642994
>Christianity
>not a backwards abrahamic death cult
>>74642992
Go and live there then you fucking traitor.
>>74643001
Infinitely more corrupt than even your embarrassing turkroach country, that's my point.
>>74643004
United Russia has relevance everyone else are just talking heads and controlled opposition.
>>74643020
>Like pushing more fractional reserve banking and setting up countless puppet bureacracies to skim more money from the working people? WOW THAT'S SO NATIONALIST
Not any different from Western SJW governments.
>Nah, i think your ATAKA vote is bought with money from the Russian PA, just like every other Putnboo in Europe.
Not bought, but GERB, RB etc are literally paid by the US embassy.
>>74643122
So you're agreeing that the West is much more degenerate and corrupt. Glad we can agree on something.
>>74639110
I miss the good old atheist Soviet Union. In this time, believe in a magical old dude flying in the sky was considerred madness.
>>74643016
Yeah and I bet he is a protestant living in Cork. He has very protestant features.
>Be russian atheist
>Putin force you to become christian
>You pretend you're a beleiver not to get to gulag
>Die and get to pearly gates
>St-Peter says: "Lying is a sin"
>The corect answer was to be honest about your doubts
>Discover hell is real and you're going there for not being atheist
Damn you, Putin, for forcing people to sin.
>>74643207
Like?
>>74643229
"You are welcome"
>>74643196
The Soviet Union was atheistic for about 10 years under Lenin, afterwards Stalin was canonized as a Saint by the Orthodox Church.
>>74639110
>hates refugees
Russians despise the cowardice and even more those who are not willing to fight for their homeland.
>>74643290
The shape of his head and face and hair.
>>74642646
He was Georgian and criminal degenerate
>>74643182
>the West is much more degenerate and corrupt.
Both are pretty degenerate. >>74642536
But Russia is several levels worse as far as corruption goes!
>>74643349
Curly hair is an irish trait mong
>>74643323
Stalin is a canonized saint? wtf. Seriously?
>>74643059
It is less that and more that if you are nationalist but control territory which does not have your main nation on it then it makes your job harder because they will be more resistant. The imperialism of extraction from conquered territories comes first above everything else. Which is why Soviet Union tried to create Soviet identity and why now they promote this more Imperial Russian identity built on just civic attachment to the state and not ethnic ones. Late Tsars were scared of nationalism because it would lead to the break up of empire if all of the different nations embraced it. Which is why they promoted more state-based nationalism compared to ethnic nationalism and russification of conquered peoples.
>>74643323
>Stalin was canonized as a Saint by the Orthodox Church.
No he doesn't. There is no sobor ruling about it.
>>74643089
Fuck off you filthy Bongoloid. Keep sucking your Zionist master Lord Rothschilds cock.
>>74643438
Not those greasy black curls.
Less greasy brown hair in waves is Irish.
>>74639110
>celebrating totalitarianism
dont worrry, after Putin gets killed, the Communists will take control again.
Get ready Orthodoxy, back to the gulags you will go
>>74642681
>>74641261
noticing a pattern of phallic obsession here
>>74643477
>>74643497
It was a brief propaganda thing during his rule, obviously, just goes to show that the USSR embraced Christianity. Obviously he isn't recognised as a Saint now.
>>74643486
Nationalism isn't only western stormfag definition of it, you know, the same stormfags that worship Milo, a faggot and say that it's 100% okay to be a faggot and be conservative (protip: it isnt)
>>74643477
nonsense
>>74643600
Yes it was quite the scandal when it turned out that the catholic church was full of gay pedophiles. They never really recovered from that.
>>74643598
Modern Communists are pro-Orthodoxy.
>>74643627
>Nationalism isn't only western stormfag definition of it
Well I kind of agree. I don't think you could have a western European style nation state nationalism in Russia. Too big, too many nations.
>>74643627
Stalin was a saint while he was alive?
>>74643486
> Which is why Soviet Union tried to create Soviet identity
Yeah with one hand with another hand SU promoted minorities national identity of hand picked privileged nations what in the end exploded Soviet Union.
>>74643738
Yes, they made the mistake of playing both games. promoting minorities while also trying to pretend it was one nation.
>>74643729
>propaganda
>making sense
pick one
>>74643729
There were never such ruling. People just talk shit.
>>74643800
So he converted?
>>74643729
It is a meme. Stalin is not a saint.
>>74643711
So they say, just wait until they gain control.
They also claim to be pro-mixed economy and want peaceful relations with EU.
Yeah right, no Russian Communist would accept anything but the full return of the Soviet Union, including East Germany.
>you guys want to talk about religion
>well I want to talk about dicks!
wew
>>74639925
>vehicle mode, engage!
my fucking sides
>>74643776
Guess what Russia does now.
>>74643486
>>74643738
>>74643776
Any good reading material on the 'Soviet identity' and the promotion of a USSR nation-state?
>>74640843
>be swedecuck
>forced to believe in invisible all controlling Allah
Lol cuck country.
But what is he going to do about the jews?
He already knows about the rothschilds and george soros and Israel.
>>74643776
So basically the same as now with Chechnya, Dagestan and other regions?
>>74643598
Orthodoxy will never fall.
>>74641925
>Upholding freedom is edgy
>>74639925
>man of god
>still needs body guards
every time
>>74643931
Yes, it is trying to buy piece in the short term by giving them conciliations. It never works out in the long term. Chechens will try again for independence at some point because their identity has not been attacked. They just get bought off for now.
>>74644002
Yes. See above.
