>Be me with my girlfriend (evolution cuck)
>We're watching NatGeo and the documentary brings up evolution
>Start laughing
>She questions
>Argument ensues
Needless to say, we've been split for a while.
Why do people believe in this hoax?
because not everyone is retarded
>>74617663
weak bait. 1/10
>>74617750
Give me some facts.
>>74617663
Because science has substituted religious faith - People need a worldview to believe in and they can't accept mystery.
>>74619145
I believe in many scientific principles but the THEORY of evolution claims we evolved from monkeys.
bs in other words
>>74617663
>Why do people believe in this hoax?
Because its true.
You don't have to believe in science--but next time you get sick go and see a poet.
>>74618870
Why attempt to educate the ape?
Back in your hole, Koko.
>>74619729
We share 98% or so of our DNA with chimpanzees. Is that a coincidence or do you not believe in DNA either?
>>74618870
so you can practice some goalpost mobility?
>>74617663
Note the word "seems". Eye evolution has been posited from patches of skin with light sensitivity to pits of skin to pits with simple transparent cover, to pits with a lens, etc etc. And an organ like our eye has evolved more than once. So, yes, theory confirmed and Darwin was mistaken in this statement.
>>74617663
>>74617663
Fucking kill yourself you creationist subhuman.
>>74617663
It's not PC garbage if it's probably true.
>>74617663
"Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated; but I may remark that several facts make me suspect that any sensitive nerve may be rendered sensitive to light, and likewise to those coarser vibrations of the air which produce sound. (Darwin 1872, 143-144)"
nice way to end that quote
>>74617663
/spoiler/
People often claim usually that evolution is true BECAUSE many scientists believe in it.
Of course many scinetists beleive in it, because they are the ones who INVENTED it it the first place. No one wants to deny the fact that their own theory isn't correct.
Lots of people (including scientists) disprove evoltuion everyday, including weekends, because people with all different jobs are ALLOWED TO THINK. Even about scientific "theories"
/spoiler/
I can give four key pointers as to why it is not valid to claim for evolution being true at all times.
Starting with the first one:
Before people believed in evolution, what did they believe in? No one had even THOUGHT of a theory even slightly resembling evolution until Richard Darwin made it up in the 1800s
Also, the modern theory that is constantly foisted at all times on students in schools and in high schooles and coleges, is not even the same one that was developed back then with Darwin's.
Did the theory change? If so, why should anybody believe in it at this point, because if it could change in the past, it could just change at any time in the future and theirs no use using it at all.
>>74620462
Dont we also share like 70% of our dna with slugs
>>74620783
>>74617663
weak bate
Two questions to anyone who chooses to answer:
Do you accept that organisms can replicate themselves, either through asexual or sexual means, to create offspring?
Do you accept that this method is not perfect and is subject to variation and error?
>>74620846
Not all of us :^ )
>>74617663
remember, it's called the 'theory' of evolution for a reason.
it's a theory. it's never been proven as scientific fact.
>>74620616
Darwin wasn't mistaken, it's quote mining. In the full quote, he explains the potential path of evolution of the eye:
>To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility.
So basically, tl;dr
>hHy isn't this shit crazy? It sounds crazy as hell, I can't habeeb it, but here's why you might habeeb it.
>>74620869
Ah, the arraignment of baitedness. such a petty soliliquous development in the life and times of this incrementational existance. Dissolocutionally, such an accusation is widespread amongst those denizens of such a forum as this. Such an interlocution inevitariably leads one to assert a number of logical "fallacies," the likes of which include the impossibility of one such that he is of the disposition most true to the ideology in question, simply put, thusforth such a fallacy has been known in the present day and age as a "strawman" or a "slippery slope" fallacious argumentation. one of the concerns with such an argument as "bait" is a supplemenation of one "murphies law," a statute which holds that one extreme argument may be so similar to that of a comedic appropriatation of such as to be indistinguisable from it. this concern though, as far as can be determined by an unbiased and logically unfallacious mind such as have considered the issue, is nevertheless wrought by one slight issue, which is that one can never "prove" the truth value of the stipulation of murphies law using a proof-theoretic analysis, which imbues a degree of uncertainness into the "law." one solution thusly would almost certainly be to accept the non-baitedness of such a claim, taking such a stance as the "null hypothesis" of the claimant, who should be required to prove his own stance as an impressionist of extremism before a communal forum shall take his own thoughts as bait or such as.
>>74620734
>>74620846
Yup. We're closest to Mice and rats, hence the animal studies.
Adaptation is a real, testable, provable phenomena. Evolution is supposed to be the overall process of adaptation, but we haven't been able to observe it.
We wont't.
>>74620783
Good ol' "Richard Darwin" and his Theory of Evolution."
Fucking retard.
>>74620846
don't you share like 100% of your DNA with leafs?
>>74620846
All animals share a large amount of DNA, purely because there is so much fucking DNA in one person. But as much DNA as 98% means that they probably evolved from the same ancestor.
>>74617663
That quote was made before anyone realized the Earth is some 4 billion years old.
>>74621062
Is that a pasta?
>>74621111
quite the contrary my good lad, what a fine day to be dissertating at such a pleasantry of a question. this discernment is quiet unfortunately inccorrect as ever before has anyone seen, for it is quiet unlikely that such a question be ramificationable in the not-so-distant forthcomings; As you are undoubtedly salient, evolution has never been ascendantly validated, and therefore is not such as would most likely be considered in the upper eschelon of scientific inquirey as "true science." Though it may be the case that in such a day and age such as this, many do accept it as thus; lamentaciously; the various evidentialities of evolutionary "science" (requiring that it be called such is a misnomer; unfortunately) are the result of might we call a CONSPIRATION of the upper classes of under-educated scientists [of the 19th centuries]. Keep in mind that an animal such as an aardvark is said to have existed AFTER the time of an animalistic creature such as a Trilobyte. However, bear in mind the word-initial letters in each case. Aardvark: "A," trilobytte ("T"). If the trilobite existed prior to the aardvark, then why does aardvark begin with a letter prior to the first letter of trilobyte? If evolution were indeed most EFFICEINT, wouldn't the names of animals begin with the first letter of hte alphabet, then working it's way through to the later letters? we do not find this patter exant among those animals who exist supercilliously today.
>>74620989
>scientific theory
>not fact beyond reasonable doubt
>BUT IT'S CALLED A THEORY BAAAAW!1!
really can't tell if troll
>>74620783
>Did the theory change? If so, why should anybody believe in it at this point, because if it could change in the past, it could just change at any time in the future and theirs no use using it at all.
Are you saying that since science changes, science should be disregarded? Jesus H. Tittyfucking Christ. The entire philosophy of science can be summed up as "prove me wrong."
Everyone likes to be an armchair scientist about evolution and claim there's some giant conspiracy to advance it, but they can never provide an alternate explanation for the diversity of life and the fact that many organisms share related structures. Well, they can provide one, actually: a wizard did it.
>>74621430
>mad as fuck atheist detected
>>74619729
>but the THEORY of evolution claims we evolved from monkeys.
hide bait threads
sage
>>74619729
>THEORY of evolution claims we evolved from monkeys.
No, it does not.
>>74621484
>>74617663
Mitochondria, which exist in almost all of our cells, look almost exactly like bacteria. They have a circular chromosome just like bacteria. They have cell membrane lipids that are just like bacteria. They create energy in a way that's just like bacteria. In fact, scientists have narrowed down that mitochondria must be closely related to the SAR11 clade of proteobacteria, and they theorize that these bacteria established a symbiotic relationship with the early Eukaryotic cell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis
Don't you find that a little strange?
>>74620989
>>74620783
gravity is a theory too. stop believing in it. go ahead. jump. god will surely catch you.
>>74621677
God dun it
>>74617663
then why glasses i have never had to buy glasses for a computer lense
Evolutionists think this is real lol
>>74621677
>this stuff that God created is a lot like other stuff that God created
>so God isn't real
Atheist "logic"
>>74621484
maybe cause that was Murica's job?
>>74621484
Have any of you atheists seen this?
>>74617663
You'd be surprised what can happen with billions of years of trial and error, all that is required is one just one fucking organism has a mutation which starts the development of the primitive eye to see in water, and from there it just takes off because it's such a superior advantage over the organisms which can't perceive light. Is this really not plausible enough for you to conceive?
>>74621870
>get destroyed with simple logic
>b-b-b-bait
Answer this one, then. You'd think by now we'd have "evolved" to be perfect social creatures
>>74618870
Are your parents still together? Then it's reasonable to believe that you look similar to one or both of them, but you are not completely identical. This is true for most people around the world with their parents as well.
Can dead people create children? They can't. Not without some expensive in vitro fertilization. Think back at a time before modern medicine and lack of civility. People who could not figure out how to survive died before getting children all the time because of the lack of goodwill from their peers.
If people are similar, but not identical to their parents, and dead people can not make children. Given a great length of time, why do you think it is unreasonable to think that your ancestry looked nothing like you?
>>74622004
This one is actually pretty funny
>>74622135
>implying they're not all funny
The problem is simply that creationism cant hold up to any scrutiny and evolution is the best proofed theory we have. Not to mention, if there are errors in any of the theories it will be proved with more science. Im fine with christians and their religion, but when people assume evolution isnt the most accurate model without understanding any of it is irritating.
>>74622525
>proofed
Evolution can't even explain a simple thing like this -- you'd think after hundreds of billions of years, we'd have all "evolved" immortality by now
>>74622004
>>74622004
>>74622602
i thought evolution is a slow process also gods a dick in that case because why would you make people retarded
>>74622602
Bacteria and viruses evolve too. Is it so hard to just be honest and say you dont get it or dont want to get it?
>>74622602
Nah. Evolution on needs you to have sex at least once and spawn some brood or something. After you have sex, you can die for all that evolution cares. I mean spiders and praying mantis eat each other. Evolution doesn't naturally create immortality.
You are thinking about the Singularity.
>>74622602
>>74622004
just.....if your kind happens to evolve near Chernobyl you'll probably get an eye on your ass because shiiiet radiation, if you evolve in perfect conditions you'll get bigger, faster, smarter etc. the process by which you become that guy with an eye on his butt or the superdindu is that thing called evolution. IT'S A PROCESS NOT A RESULT.
>>74622602
im just curious as to the point of retarded people if god created us.... or was he half assin it
And secondly why does evolution negate the Bible? Hell, the Pope believes in evolution. Its all this protty shit that believes earth is 6000 based on guessing how old people were in the Bible.
You don't know that god used evolution to create mankind. Hell... Adam could have been a monkey. God doesn't give a shit.
>>74622602
welp looks like the bait master leaf has blown away.... he was a masterbaiter
>>74623247
Adam is explicitly stated to be formed from dust. And note that this is the old testament, not the new one, so your metaphysical bs doesn't apply there.
>>74622865
>>74622887
>mad atheists
Guess evolution really is just a "theory"! You'd think by now that we'd have "evolved" a perfect understanding of the world and there'd be no scientific debate. How come this perfect science is always being proven wrong?
Because what's right is the Bible, and so all anti-God science is just a bunch of eggheads trying different ways to say black is white.
>>74623069
>butthurt commie still mad that his atheist godless physicists created Chernobyl, unlike the accident-free nuclear record of the God-fearing free world
>>74622807
>>74623142
The retarded are perhaps the most blessed by God, because they can easier accept His love and teachings
>>74623247
Because you lose your theodicy.
>>74623343
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/10/28/pope-francis-evolution-big-bang/18053509/
Evolution is real, anthropogenic global warming is not.
Is everyone happy now?
>>74623343
>lol the Bible says man was made from dust lmao how retarded can u get hahaha
>whoa Carl Sagan said we're all made of stardust so deep science e is amazing like and share if u agree
>>74620462
This argument is so common: literally "similarity = relation." But similar organisms would have similar DNA whether they evolved or were created.
>>74623413
When did scientific theory get proven wrong? Also, whats the evidence for God?
>>74623413
what..... that argument... wait wait your telling me mentally slow people tend to like god more...... shit man enjoy heaven
>>74623562
Did Carl Sagan also say that females are made by tearing out men's space-ribs?
>>74617750
Fpbp
The fuck USA?
Evolution is falsified because life cannot come from non-life. God is the only Uncaused Cause and the only [rational] explanation for life.
Also, consider that evolution is founded on genetic mutation, which is a biologically destructive concept. Genetic mutation rarely, if ever, gives a species something to help it be better equipped for survival. It's always albinism, an extra head, or autism or something useless.
No one can prove evolution, because it's utter horseshit. The best they can do is claim correlation=causality. Because genes and species look similar, they must be related. Idiotic and unscientific.
>>74623782
Probably at some point. You know how much weed that guy smoked?
>>74623714
>implying I haven't proven scientific "theory" wrong 7 times in this thread alone
Here's a simple one -- how come the purest document of living truth available today, written thousands of years ago but whose lessons and laws still govern the life of every single human on Earth, doesn't mention your precious "evolution" even once?
>>74623734
Enjoy burning in the very hottest circle of Hell, the one reserved for those who turn away from the love of God, misled by Pride of Intellect
>>74621566
>no, it doesn't
shut up. with supporters like you who needs enemies?
>All these brainwashed muricans and leaves
Guess I'm gunna burn in hell just like daddy told yeh :^)
>>74620634
Kill yourself.
>>74619729
>THEORY
>implying theory in science means hypothesis
2/10 b8, made me reply
>>74623924
> god loves you
> he will burn you for eternity in the hottest circle of hell if you use your brain to realize there is no evidence or any reason at all to believe he exists
Lol
>>74622602
>Evolution can't even explain a simple thing like this -- you'd think after hundreds of billions of years, we'd have all "evolved" immortality by now
have more respect for our ancestors. they haven't managed to evolve immortality but at least they died trying to.
>>74623924
>Here's a simple one -- why no evolution in bible?
ummm it was a book written by people tripin on mushrooms
>smart people go to hell
so even if im a good person but i dont hold all his truths literally ill go to hell....... well shit man fuck ur god hes a dick. tell um i said that if u meet him
>>74623924
It doesnt, im not sure how you assume that to be true. Other religions think and act differently, that should be a hint.
>>74623924
evolution IS in the bible. find the part where jacob breeds striped animals.
>>74623413
>>74623562
first things first - A FUCKING LEAF
second - pic
3th - because I live in <obvious flag> I hate communism or any other kind of collectivist shit with a passion. that includes organized religion.
see that's what communism did to me - it demonstrated what the real evil is in this world - people that want heaven upon you. not imaginary friends, not bombs, not capitalism, not communism, not religions, not murder but people that really truly believe what they are doing is for the greater good and that they know better because some book written by some fraudster or druggie says so.
there are no true believers except the ones that mean you good. and those the world would be much better off if it would dispose of. because those will produce true evil, the kind the believes itself good.
sorry for long ranty ungrammatical incoherent rabble leaf but i'm quite sleepy. going to sleep now hoping tomorrow muh communistoid lord satan von beelzebub raptures me to the eternal gardens of evolutionary science.
>>74624400
genesis 30:37-39
>>74624325
>>74624280
>well shit man fuck ur god hes a dick. tell um i said that if u meet him
You can tell Him yourself, you're going to meet Him right before he sends you to the lake of fire <3
>>74624353
>Other religions think and act differently, that should be a hint.
Obviously -- since the Bible is God's truth, and there is only one truth, it logically follows that Satan's lies (all other religions) will be varied in their nonsense.
>>74624400
>implying crossbreeding is evolution
Crossbreeding is real, just look at all the breeds of dogs. Evolution, however, isn't mentioned even once, because it's not.
>>74624433
>long butthurt commie rant
>i-im going to bed
>internet equivalent of crying and running away
didn't even read it lol
>>74623875
1. They have proved evolution in a lab using quick species. (Fruit flies)
2. Is God not all powerful enough to create the universe through evolution?
>>74624433
Reminder that communism was an atheist ideology. Protip: evolution just follows the rules of God.
>>74623562
north korea is religious as fuck. ordinary people still cling to the religions of their ancestors while the state pushes a new religion, with miracles surrounding the birth of dear leader 'n shit.
>>74623562
>not wanting to live in Best Korea
WEW
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>>74622602
"evolution" doesn't work upwards, or towards a specific goal for that matter
200 years ago it was smart people that had an edge in passing their genes, now it's dumb jocks
does that discredit evolution? no, it means that the environment changed and now good looks are more important than smarts (for whatever, or even no reason)
"evolution" is a misleading terms, the correct one is natural selection
>>74624740
>evolution did this thing gaiz
>but now it's suddenly not
>evolution made this coin land heads first
>now evolution made it land tails first!
>i fucking love science like/share if u agree!
>>74624400
top beigli hunbro
Intelligent design fallacy
Theory of evolution is based in empirical evidence, but still isn't trying to claim how life began. Any holy book provides equally reputable "evidence" for how life began, whether by omnipotent beings or not. Don't conflate theory of evolution to theory of genesis.
>>74624966
>isn't trying to claim how life began
Entropy
>>74624816
stop baiting like that you fucking freemason
>>74624609
How do you know yours is the right religion? Slavery was made okay by God in exodus. I know slavery is bad. Why didnt he speak against it?
>>74624609
explain the difference between crossbreeding and evolution...
>>74624740
>>74624460
>>74624400
>>74624280
guys hes not gonna change his mind theres no point preaching to the preachers of death
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Yet his shadow still looms. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives; who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves?
>>74620462
we also share 90 % dna with cats
>>74624816
Evolution is a process by which those most adapted to the environment succeed in said environment.
If the environment changes (i.e. and ice age) they those traits that were previously desirable will not necessarily be desirable any longer (for example being hairy is more useful in an ice age.)
>>74624910
>offering beigli
>this far from christmas
now that's some heresy.
The eye isnt perfect, and neither is the brain for that matter (not even talking about myopia/astigmatism or any genetic defect)
If we take perfect 20/10 vision there are still flaws in the eye/brain. Which is why optical illusions exist, blind spots, color distortions, hallucinations and everything inbetween
>>74625137
>>God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.
>>74617663
A reminder that OP is a jidf shill trying to sow disharmony in /pol with this crap.
>>74625026
The only current plausible explanation is that the universe is on the inside of a black hole located in another universe, where it has warped space so much to provide antigravity or dark energy which is the driver for entropy.
>>74624609
some of us aren't welfare leeches. in cuckistan language - some of us can't afford to shitpost on pol 24/7
>>74624629
what did I just say about communism being bad? I said that didn't I? did I?
and just because one thing is bad doesn't mean you can just go 180 and be a-fuckin-ok. not even going to go into organized religion being just as fucking collectivist as communism. note I said organized religion. I have no problem with anyone believing in what ever sky daddy they want. just keep it to yourself and stop using my fucking taxes for it
>>74624816
you're probably a fucking retard, but i'll give it one more try to educate you nontheless
you live in an environment where there's little food because a comet fell and killed most life
those who have a slower metabolism are at an advantage because they don't starve as easily as those who have a fast metabolism
100,000 years later life has recovered and the abundance of resources makes those who have a slow metabolism get fat and less mobile so they die to wild animals and don't get to pass their fat genes
gradually people develop a faster metabolism again
meanwhile a virus emerges that kills 90% of people, those that survive and their children have a resistance to that virus but may be more susceptible to another pathogen
and so on and so forth, life adapts to the current circumstances, there is no objective measurement of what is evolutionary desirable
>>74625137
>explain the difference between crossbreeding and evolution...
Crossbreeding is real, evolution is not
You can tell by the fact that crossbreeding is in the Bible and is apparent all around us, whereas evolution is a fevered dream by suicidal atheists unwilling to accept the simple, cool truth that bubbles like a mountain spring from the Good Book
>God is dead.
Nietzsche's dead and burning in Hell. God is very much alive, I spoke with Him this morning, noon, and tonight
>>74625138
>>74620462
>God made all life on Earth
>why is all life on Earth so similar i don't understand it must be evolution!
>>74624624
They proved fruit flies can have genetic mutation (as can all animals). But the fruit fly never becomes anything other than a fruit fly. That isn't evolution.
God created our universe, and it is dictated by strict laws of physics, especially those of quantum physics. Evolution begins as life from non-life, a concept that defies the physical laws of our world, and is therefore scientifically impossible. Even God's miracles spoken of in Scripture can be proven using quantum mechanics.
>>74625137
>guys hes not gonna change his mind theres no point preaching to the preachers of death
I know. I've had my 'argue with creotards' phase in the late nineties. now I'm just throwing tidbits into the conversation to make them say things.
>>74621955
faith
>>74617663
ITT: Godless atheists cry because they can't disprove intelligent design
>>74617750
SOFT TISSUE
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>>74625372
>this mad rant by an atheist
I'll educate you:
6,000 years ago, God created the world and Man
Occam's Razor says that my explanation, backed up by a little thing called God's pure message to His Creation, is the correct one
Wow, look at that! "Evolution" can get disproved by your precious science in just one sentence!
>>74617663
In 1872, the eye was unfathomably complex. In 2016, the entire evolution has been traced from the very start.
>>74625530
>implying God didn't just invent evolution to automate things
theists can be really stupid when it suits them.
>hurr durr god couldn't do big bang, he is not all-knowing.
umm...
>>74625417
>Even God's miracles spoken of in Scripture can be proven using quantum mechanics.
I find this fascinating. So they aren't miracles at all, just weird but completely science-conforming events? and why: is this god that you speak of limited by said laws and must tinker within them?
>>74625366
Usury and wealth is about as anti-Christian you can get. Which is the cornerstone of capitalism.
>>74625372
You're describing what are called "micro-evolutions". Those exist because God's design allows them to exist, simply as a matter of mechanics. The virus which can infect better reproduces simply because, mechanically, it reproduces more so. However, the initial playing field was set by God 6,000 years ago. The very minor evolution that can be produced does not disprove that any more than the extinction of certain animals does.
>>74625485
creationism and darwinism can co-exist just fine; god allowed evolution to happen
there, that wasn't so hard was it?
>>74625530
a retard then
>>74625589
STOP CALLING IT EVOLUTION IT'S CALLED NATURAL SELECTION
you guys trigger me
>>74625530
is that you Ken Ham? I thought you were a strayan. why are you using canuck proxies?
>>74625245
>trying to sow disharmony in /pol
>trying
I'd say he's mighty successful at it.
>>74625667
Evolution requires the world to be millions of years old, but we know from the Bible that the Earth is 6,012 years old. So it's impossible.
Here is a question you.
So a "light year" is the distance light travels in a year.
We're told that some stars are 11 million "light years" away.
So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million "light years" away now?
I'm not 11 million years old, i'm 20.
See?
>>74625772
>get destroyed with literally the simplest principle of basic logic
>r-retard
Yes, I'm sure the dumb one here!
>>74625783
>Ken Ham
Has some upside-down cocksucker been stealing my ancient /new/ bait?
>>74623782
if man is made out of dust and female is taken from a part of man the female is also made from dust
>>74622049
Yes, by chance. Very long odds, with huge numbers of molecules, and enormous stretches of time. Do you have a problem with that? If so, why?
>>74625686
He isn't "limited" to them, per say, but conforms to them when acting in our world. The original definition of a miracle as it's used in Scripture actually just meant "something that caused awe or wonder." It has somehow, over time, been morphed into meaning "magic that defies human law" which isn't true.
>>74625472
Indeed: have faith in the process of evolution.
>>74625686
Think about it through the lends of the Multiverse. Quantum events like a man walking on water are possible, but damn near never occur. Literally 1 in 20 quintillion billion trillion million or whatever. However, there are an infinite number of Universes, so there are an infite number of Universes in which these quantum events occurred while a man was saying he was doing them (Jesus). They occured in such an order so as to create the belief of Christianity.
Now let's calculate the probability we occur in such a Universe: There is an infinite number of Universes in which this can occur divided by the infinite number of Universes in general. Therefore, there is infinite/infinite probability so the probability is 1. Therefore it is a certainty.
>>74625485
Not cry - more like sigh.
People like you make /pol/ look stupid. Cut vertically bby
>No such thing as evolution
I take it you aren't aware of drug resistant strains of microorganisms then.
>>74625485
ID hasnt been proved. Lol.
>>74625530
Unfortunately, your poorly proofed hypothesis gets shot down logically with no evidence for your god, and the falsities and contradictions in the bible.
This is why theists dont get taken seriously.
>>74625530
That is not proof, syrup-dude, as you well know.
>>74617663
id imagine that youre not serious, but theres bound to be one creationist on the board. evolution deniers are fringe and cringe, all at the same time. God works through evolution, it is his handwriting
Question for Creationists here:
As I understand this "evolution" you guys are trying to force on me, the idea is that the best creature reproduces with, say, 3 children. Then the best of those 3 reproduces (or reproduces the most) and this creates a positive feedback loop where the best creature survives. Great.
Ok then, so after a very long time, shouldn't we arrive at the perfect creature? There should be one, theoretical creature that survives best an environment, period. Therefore, after an infinite amount of time, we will see this arrive.
If evolution is real, where is that creature?
>>74624624
>Is God not all powerful enough to create the universe through evolution?
What if after the flood god killed so many animals he now sets evolution in motion
because he is not going to create anything anymore
>>74626068
>no evidence for your god
The entire Universe is evidence for God
You lose again!
>>74626092
>Occam's Razor demands God created the universe
>it's in the Bible, God's perfect message to humanity
>every single thing in the universe is proof of its own creation, by virtue of existing
>w-where's the proof?
>>74625406
>God is very much alive, I spoke with Him this morning, noon, and tonight
i also spoke to Nietzsche is morning, noon, and tonight clearly he is also alive too
>>74625888
We don't "know" that, we have been "told" that.
I could tell you that up is down, but that doesn't make it so.
Universe is very big, if you didn't know.
>>74626009
ah. as I said, fascinating. will you have a mighty fap when some actual creotard starts using your bullshit for real?
>>74625888
>lol i trol u
that title guys i told u he was a masterbaiter
>>74624816
checkmate
>>74626202
I hope his tormented screams were not too upsetting to you bro
However, talking with Hell is purest witchcraft, so I guess you'll be able to talk with Nietzsche face to face soon enough
>>74625764
Do you have an explanation for fossils? Plate tectonics? Any process that takes tens of thousands or millions of years?
>>74617663
because it's not a hoax
>>74626305
>atheists' faces when their endless webs of lies are once again BTFO by simple, pure truth
>and then they go to Hell
>>74625417
You just have to wait a few thousands to tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Are you in a hurry or something? Dissatisfied with the speed of God's creation of evolution?
>>74626291
frnds <3
>>74626305
Thank you for finding all the sources and shit. I was getting sick of disproving Zeitgeist myself every time some retard neckbeard brings it up.
>>74617663
Evolution happened. We KNOW this. One time frame of the Earth there were dinosaurs, another time frame there were just simple vertebrates, another time time frame there were neanderthals, this time frame there are humans. WE KNOW The biological make of the earth haas changed and Darwin's theory is simply an explanation into how that change might have occurred.
How evolution occurs is not fully understood, but Darwin's explanation does make sense. Sure with Darwin's theory of evolution it's amazing to think something as complex as a human has evolved (among every other animal)... but it did somehow happen and right now there isn't a better explanation of how evolution occurred.
Just because Darwin's theory of evolution might one day turn out to be wrong or partially wrong does not mean "checkmate, creationism is clearly the answer" it would more like be "shit we need to learn how evolution works, Darwin's was wrong.
>>74625888
It took the light 11 million goddamn years to travel to Earth. And, to touch upon the point of the age of the Earth, I pose to you a question from the play "Inherit The Wind:"
If God created the sun on the 4th day, how long were the first three days? You can't really measure them in hours, since that is an arbitrary measurement by ancient civilizations based upon the sundial and dividing the circle upon which a sundial's shadow falls into 24 equal parts. So, with that in mind, is it unreasonable to say that, by our modern measurement units, it is possible those three days prior to the sun could've lasted anywhere from a fraction of a second to an infinite amount of time, which would include, say, 4.5 billion years?
>>74625138
Precisely! So you DO understand - excellent!
A quick quiz for all these "intellectual" atheists ITT
1. Which evolved first, male or female?
2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female?
3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods.
4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years?
5. Which came first:
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light?
6. How many millions of years between each in question 5?
7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring?
8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution!
9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing?
10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.)
11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today?
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body.
13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution?
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?
15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?
Can't answer? I'll tell you where the real answers are -- the Bible. Why don't you read it?
Evolution is for niggers
>>74625686
>>74625929
the being you are describing would then not be god. just think what would happen if you show any piece of modern technology to those dudes living on the Andaman islands.
If evolution is real, why are there still non whites?
Checkmate athecucks
>>74626182
No, science has already proven that to be false.
>>74626333
Sure. The fact that fossils and other such events don't actually need that long to form when subjected to intense natural occurrences like flash floods (The Flood of Noah) and volcanic activity.
Evolutionists completely disregard these facts because they are inconvenient. That A) Many things can form very quickly given the right environment, and B) This world was created FULLY FORMED, meaning mountains, seas, canyons, and all sorts of things were already in place. The Earth isn't like a newborn. It can't be raised from nothing to be fully grown. It had to start as a fully functioning ecosystem to harbor life.
>>74626445
frnds <3
>>74626333
Fossils are a Jewish invention, but I don't have any evidence yet so take that with a grain of salt.
Plate tectonics do not take millions of years. The idea that there used to be a pangea is bs. Basically, they take the current trajectory of the tectonics (which does exist, ofc) and then reverse the trend well beyond the start date of Earth. Plus most of the actual mapping is bs pseudo-science. Honestly I think geologists just wanted something to publish that people would care about.
>>74626513
>It took the light 11 million goddamn years to travel to Earth.
If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.
>how long were the first three days?
24 hours, just like they've always been. If the sun disappeared, would a day suddenly become a billion years? Would all our clocks suddenly stop? Of course not, don't be ridiculous.
>it is possible those three days prior to the sun could've lasted anywhere from a fraction of a second to an infinite amount of time, which would include, say, 4.5 billion years?
It would be, except the Bible clearly says the world is 6,000 years old, which is clearly the case, because that's when God created it.
![682149[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VdjVBo0.png "682149[1].png")
>>74617663
I used to - until Lord opened my eyes out of his infinite mercy. I accepted the call and He showed me even more mercy and joy.
I am reborn and blessed out of mercy nothing more - and every movement in my new life is trough providence.
>>74626614
>No, science has already proven that to be false.
>now atheists are arguing against simple principles of logic in order to defend their fevered delusions
Proving once again, atheism is the most retarded religion in the world
>>74625406
Please put in a good word with God for me, fellow leaf bro. He has not yet appeared to me. I hope he will someday, though.
>>74626202
That's impossible because Nietzsche does not exist. Nice try, faggot.
>>74626623
If you can find a modern jawed fish in the same layer of rock as a trilobite you disprove evolution.
Go get em' buddy.
>>74626533
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body.
Whoah what? Isn't useless organs like the apppendix or tonsils a sign that humans weren't intelligently designed? Also, we can't see radiation. That's kind of important.
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?
The earth is way over populated. The only reason we aren't starving is because of technology and economic growth (both due to rejection of religion and qualms over usury).
Heaven was close to Earth and all of humanity saw it.
saturndeathcult.com
Thunderbolts Project, Symbols of an Alien Sky by David Talbott
>>74626553
sure doesn't look like that from here
>>74626755
>>74626677
Well, looky there
>>74626533
>>74626311
>>74625888
Every time I witness to these atheists ITT I get sequential digits
I bet they've got an explanation for how evolution "evolved" that
>>74626476
Wrong. Dinosaurs lived in the same timeline as humans. Proof is in artwork, clay, stone carvings, stories from eyewitnesses, and fossilized footprints of dinos and humans together all around the world. The only way these things were possible is if humans had seen them with their own eyes, because archeology wasn't even a practice until recent years (relatively speaking).
>>74621078
It has been observed, in micro-organisms. Now, they don't reproduce sexually but by binary fission, but they are capable of, and do, exchange genetic material via other processes.
This is one way antibiotic resistance can spread into different micro-organisms.
And if we put bugs into harsh environments like heavy-metal polluted soils, later generations of bugs may (not will, but may) develop an ability to not just survive, but extract nutrition &/or energy from the materials that previously were toxic to them. Evolution.
>>74626839
>we can't see radiation.
Holy shit, what do you think light is
>Isn't useless organs like the apppendix or tonsils a sign that humans weren't intelligently designed
Evolution suggests we'd have dozens of these things, and yet we don't
>appendix
>useless
Holy shit, pick up a book and learn about digestive flora
>The earth is way over populated.
Then how come poor people are fat?
>>74626613
The sun.
>>74626755
Im not sure how im arguing against logic here. Care to explain?
I always found it extremely convenient that as civilization advanced over time god became more ephemeral and less personal.
He used to show up in person and do magic tricks and then one day he decides to fuck off for good.
>>74626839
Just because science doesn't fully understand the usefulness of an organ, doesn't mean it's useless and some by-product of an earlier version of us. In fact, it proves the opposite, unless you can show me a monkey, ape, or some other creature that utilizes it's appendix or tonsils in a way we don't. Otherwise, you're claiming it proves evolution just because you don't know what the fuck it does, which is stupid.
>>74626920
Biological make of the earth has changed. It's that simple. Theories to evolution simply try to explain that change.
>>74620989
Um, in science, a theory that stands the tests of challenges from other theories, and continues to successfully explain observations, is as good as it gets. There are no "facts of gravity", "facts of evolution", there are theories.
>>74626133
In theory this creature should have a very long life span though as nails this should also be the oldest creature in evolution
>>74626677
I honestly don't see what you being 20 has to do with it.
Let's say a car drives from point A to point B. When the car is at point A, a baby is not born yet. When the car is halfway in between, the baby is born. When the car reaches point B, it slams into the baby. By your logic, said car did not exist prior to the birth of the baby.
But how can you be sure those days were 24 hours? Because someone wrote in a book that they were? And besides, it is simply a question that relates to the fact that the source from which the measurement system is derived is currently not created yet. It is a question designed merely to provoke thought, not one to be answered so simply.
>>74627176
>very long life span
>tough as nails
>oldest creature
>what are tortoises?
>>74627098
I'm not saying that the appendix and tonsils prove evolution one way or another. It simply disproves intelligent design as those things are usually removed because it would kill the human other wise on occasion.
Also and by radiation, I'm talking about gamma radiation. The kind that will kill you if you stand in it too long. Would be useful to be able to see that.
>>74626397
It was you posting the picture brother this is not even funny anymore
>>74623608
God would not 'need' to re-use DNA designs for similar organisms. A less-than-omnipotent creator might, but not God. And as the DNA is such a tangle of repeats, dead sections, reinforcing and suppressing sub-units, the idea that God would design it that way and cut-and-paste it all over life on Earth is ... childish, at best. Give our Creator some credit, please.
>>74627037
Occam's Razor holds that the simplest explanation for a given phenomena is the best
The convoluted, always contorting and twisting and being disproven Satanic lie of "evolution" has generated millions of pages of written lies and untold millions of hours of spoken lies, like a blind octopus sticking out a tentacle, only to recoil again and again -- "proven wrong again!"
Compare that to: "God created the world and everything in it in 4,004 BC"
Which is simpler? Also, only one of the above is backed up by the single most important document in human history, God's message to His creation, the Bible.
>>74623413
A very weak argument.
yeah dude, like, why are there monkey if we evolved from monkeys hmmm???
>>74627377
Occam's Razor can be wrong:
http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/05/14/why-the-simplest-theory-is-alm/
>>74627296
>those things are usually removed because it would kill the human other wise on occasion.
>if you flesh-eating bacteria in your leg and have it amputated, legs are useless
Good God. The function of the appendix is well understood -- it is a reserve of positive gut flora. You can live without it, but people who have had appendectomies are vastly more likely to suffer digestive system infections and poor digestive health. You can live without your spleen too.
>by radiation, I'm talking about gamma radiation. The kind that will kill you if you stand in it too long.
Sunlight will kill you if you stand in it too long. I guess that disproves God too!
>>74626456
I just saved it , i use to belief all that crap also when i was a atheist, now i know better its just clearly a agenda for people who dont know any better
even sam harris is doing it and he is a fucking neuro scientist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENtlW-LEqu8
>>74627529
>atheists claim to think logically
>attack logic when it inevitably points to God, the most logical answer for the existence of the Universe
I'll pray for you bro
>>74627356
yet we see all the vertebrates having a very similar design.
>a head
>a spine
>4 limbs - two arms, two legs
>tfw God's a programmer who copy-pastes code [computer science term being Inheritance].
>tfw God uses other concepts such as Polymorphism, Abstraction, Encapsulation as well
>tfw the universe is but an Object oriented software program.
>tfw we are all living in the Matrix.
>Wake up, Neo! The Matrix has you.
>>74627537
I never said that disproves god. God can use evolution is he wanted to. He is all powerful isn't he?
I'm just saying if man were to be a atomic race, it would have been useful to see gamma radiation.
>>74627296
You're saying because you don't understand something, it's not intelligent design. That's absurd rational to carry. You've also failed to do any actual research, because both the appendix and tonsils play a part in the digestive and immune system. We have more organs than we need, so if we lose a couple, we can still live, like having two kidneys. That's extremely intelligent design, if you ask me. Given more than we need so if we lose pieces, we can still function.
How about this...
You can believe that evolution doesn't exist and I will continue to believe that it does.
When the technology comes out that we can modify our genes I'll modify and you can just be yourself.
>>74627705
Why not two hearts? Seems like we should have a backup.
>>74627648
>I'm just saying if man were to be a atomic race, it would have been useful to see gamma radiation.
We can't see God either, and believe me He can be a better ally or enemy to Man than any of his creations
>>74627829
Because one is clearly sufficient, being the number that God created us with
>atheists can't figure out IKEA furniture
>want to debate the design of massively complex organisms with the infinitely intelligent All-Creator of the Universe
holy shit
>>74626683
Can you tell me why a bee sting kills the bee ?
>>74627873
Hold up there. Do you read your own book. Plenty of humans saw god:
http://www.immanuelapproach.com/2012/08/15/people-in-scripture-who-saw-god-appendix-5/
>>74627829
Two hearts would be impractical. It requires more space and energy. The entire vasculature system would have to be redesigned to adjust for the blood pressure too and if one failed, the other heart would probably be unable to do the work that's supposed to be done by two.
>>74628011
>what is power of suggestion?
>what is "we see what we want to see"?
>>74626909
kek is with you brother
>>74627648
The visible spectrum of light is the range most abundant on earth. Infrared and Ultraviolet rays are generally lost in the upper atmosphere and therefore would not be greatly useful to the eye.
>>74620846
we share like 99.8% with chimpanzees
>>74621078
more like 96%
>>74627979
Because his guts are attached to it, and they get ripped out when he stings you. DUH
>>74627377
Occams razor doesnt prove anything here, not to mention this isnt a dichotomy. Again, the bible has too many contradictions and issues to be used seriously. Impeding science because you dont get it is dishonest at best, you can argue against evolution all you want. Its all we have as humans that show us our best educated answer to what happened. Creationism has yet to be properly scrutinized by anyone other than a creationist, if that were to happen it would benefit creationists quite substantially. But theres a reason why it hasnt.
Hereditary and mutation of genes.
That's enough of an argument.
Single celled organisms work a little different on the short term though.
>>74627288
ye many animals already can get older then tortoises
checkmate
the yellyfish is immortal not though as nails
>>74628124
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics
While the genetic difference between individual humans today is minuscule – about 0.1%, on average – study of the same aspects of the chimpanzee genome indicates a difference of about 1.2%.
A difference of 3.1% distinguishes us and the African apes from the Asian great ape, the orangutan. How do the monkeys stack up? All of the great apes and humans differ from rhesus monkeys, for example, by about 7% in their DNA.
The 1.2% chimp-human distinction, for example, involves a measurement of only substitutions in the base building blocks of those genes that chimpanzees and humans share. A comparison of the entire genome, however, indicates that segments of DNA have also been deleted, duplicated over and over, or inserted from one part of the genome into another. When these differences are counted, there is an additional 4 to 5% distinction between the human and chimpanzee genomes.
>>74628037
Why not? I mean if you are all powerful and wanted to create a resilient creature, why not give him two hearts and a blood vessel system that can handle it?
I mean in less than 50 years we will be re-engineering the human body anyways.
Why are humans able to improve on a perfect design?
Alright, I'm gonna try and show why it's pointless to argue this shit using the philosophical razors.
Occam's razor is but one razor. Some others to consider in this question are as follows:
>Hitchens's razor: The burden of proof or onus in a debate lies with the claim-maker, and if he or she does not meet it, the opponent does not need to argue against the unfounded claim. "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
I have seen little evidence outside of the Bible or other old religious texts of the like used in creationist discussions. However, this also applies to evolution, as the opposition is unable to accept the credibility of the source. (Not to say it is, nor to say the Bible is not. It simply cannot be 100% proven that either source is entirely factual.)
>Newton's flaming laser sword* (or Alder's razor): If something cannot be settled by experiment or observation then it is not worthy of debate.
Neither evolution nor creation can be settled once and for all by experiment. Gravity, on the other hand, can.
>Popper's falsifiability principle: For a theory to be considered scientific, it must be falsifiable.
Neither evolution nor creation is able to be definitively proven false. Which is why both are considered theories and not laws.
And finally, if either side of this stupid and pointless fucking debate still wants to carry on, turn to Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
*It's a recent one, so the fuck decided to give it a more exciting name.
Good night, /pol/. Some of us have work in the morning, and would rather not waste more time on pointlessness.
And Americans wonder why their education system sucks.
Can't cure stupidity.
>>74628374
Fair enough.
In my opinion God should have made us 90 foot tall fire breathing dragons so that we could go around being awesome.
>>74628467
I would have settled for being fireproof and the mother of dragons.
If God exists, then why do we still have niggers?
Checkmate.
>>74628766
</thread>
kek
>>74628374
>I mean in less than 50 years we will be re-engineering the human body anyways.
hahahah he really thinks this
>>74628374
Kiddie thinks humans can do better than God. Hasn't happened yet. Never will. You believe you can design a better body? Go for it, hotshot. Play God and tell me how that works out for you.
>>74622049
Actually yeah
>>74629110
We already fix some of our impurities medically. Science is t too far off.
>>74617663
>Christianity created the West!
>Christianity invented science!
>Still can't deal with the basics of biology
>atheists believe humans evolved from rocks that appeared from nothing
how can atheists really believe this unironically?
>>74629678
Nobody believes this.
>>74622049
She looks exactly the type I'd expect.
>>74629745
>>74626614
>>74626068
yes you do. you claim humans evolved/split from early humans who evolved/split from early primates who evolved/split from early mammals who evolved from early quadrupeds who evolved.... etc etc from the first single celled organisms who sprang out of primordial ooze that originated from rocks from wind/water erosion in early earth.
>humans evolved from rocks
earth came from planetary formation of dust, rock, ice that came from the big bang prior to which nothing existed
>atheists believe humans evolved from rocks that appeared from nothing.
>denying your own ideology because someone rephrased it
What's equally amusing is that evolutionists have to claim all our plant life has gone through the same process of genetic mutation and change over the years, giving us the diverse biome of today, which is heavily reliant on the animals to pollinate it, and vice versa. Except that....it doesn't work like that. At all. And anyone with half a brain would know this. Sigh...Goodnight. Maybe at least one of you will have read all this tonight and decide to research for yourself and stop lapping up all the lies Bill Nye feeds you.
>>74626305
I'm pretty sure Dionysus DID actually turn water into wine though (according to myth).
>>74630286
>What are wind-pollinated flowers.
>>74626909
You're playing at an Australian level of shitposting. Your country may yet overtake Shitpostland.
>>74630266
You do not understand science. We did not evolve from rocks. Nobody has said this ever. Please send me what you read indicating we came from rocks. Also, you are claiming we evolved from rocks but also state that ice and other components were also present. Maybe your agenda is leading you to ignore the facts.
>>74630614
that covers the late-Triassic on... what about the 400 million years of plant evolution that supposedly happened prior to that?
>>74630847
>implying canacucks aren't the worst shitposters
>>74627377
Which is simpler?
"God created the world and everything in it in 4,004 BC"
or:
"You're retarded."
Remember Occam's Razor now.
>>74619729
Cant tell if you're a stupid nigger or extreme bait.
>>74631009
humans evolved from the first single celled organisms... right?
so that first single celled organism came from where? what verb do you desire to be between rocks and that first single celled organism?
>humans evolved from rocks
quit denying your own beliefs bro
>>74631214
>implying you have evidence to prove god didnt create the world
>>74630600
The earliest discussions of mythological parallels between Dionysus and the figure of the Christ in Christian theology can be traced to Friedrich Hölderlin, whose identification of Dionysus with Christ is most explicit in Brod und Wein (1800–1801) and Der Einzige (1801–1803).[60]
Theories regarding such parallels were popular in the 19th century. Some modern scholars such as Martin Hengel, Barry Powell, Robert M. Price, and Peter Wick, among others, argue that Dionysian religion and Christianity have notable parallels. They point to the symbolism of wine and the importance it held in the mythology surrounding both Dionysus and Jesus Christ;[61][62] though, Wick argues that the use of wine symbolism in the Gospel of John, including the story of the Marriage at Cana at which Jesus turns water into wine, was intended to show Jesus as superior to Dionysus
>>74631097
They didn't used to be. I don't know what's wrong with them this month. It's like they're playing for some kind of award or something they desperately want.
>>74631358
>Implying Occam's Razor is wrong
>>74630286
As opposed to...? The flood wiping everything out? Where did the water come from and go to? Do you think plant life would thrive underwater? Lets stop deflecting from the pseudoscience creationism is, actual scientific theory only can go so far for where we are at in life.
>>74631214
Sure, but who created God and gave God the abilities to create a petri dish of humanity to watch?
Maybe our planet is an atom that makes up one of the organelle's of a much larger creature, the galaxies being the cells and that human or being is just an atom that makes up another human.
So on and so fourth, I'm too high for this right now.
Americans and others just read up on adaptation to environment, eyesight of humanity applies here very much so.
>>74631409
Australian shitposting is actually funposting, canadians have always shitposted in the literal sense
>>74631397
Hold on now. I'm not talking about Jesus here, just Dionysus. I'm almost POSITIVE as the god of fucking wine he's turned water into fucking wine on at least one occasion in the literature. And even if he hadn't, he's ABSOLUTELY able to.
>>74631448
"Someone created God and the abilities to create a petri dish"
or
"God's retarded"
Which one is simpler?
>>74631472
Nah man, Australians can be downright toxic. But you're right. Canadians have always been just awful. But something has driven them into a frenzy lately. Is it fucking hockey season or something?
>>74619729
No it doesn't you stupid cunt, it says we evolved from a common ancestor.
>>74631520
>"Someone created God and the abilities to create a petri dish"
This logically but then it's a never ending loop of "who created this".
It's frustrating because there has to be a beginning, this all implies an inbetween.
>>74631409
i didnt see your evidence disproving god existence. and if you want to actually apply occams razor...
>god created the world and everything in it
or
>atheists believe humans evolved from rocks that appeared from literally nothing
both can be taken as outlandish and neither has favor in occams razor.
>>74631638
Like I said, God's retarded lol
>>74631686
>god created the world and everything in it
or
>I did it all
Now which is simpler? I even exist without a doubt.
>>74623608
Then why do similar structures in different animals encode so very differently? for instance, the wings of a bat are encoded very differently from those of a bird, as is the tail of a dolphin vs that of a fish.
>>74631520
>Is it fucking hockey season or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4-TTtvAZBY
>>74618870
Whale femurs.
>>74631595
>humans evolved from rocks
>humans evolved from hydrogen
JUST
>>74631294
>quit denying your own beliefs
No, you are misinterpreting science. God hasnt explained any of this without showing his ability to contradict himself or give false evidence, stop being silly, "bro".
Google is your friend, and being an agnostic i have no horse in the race and am open to both sides. Unfortunately, this is a david v goliath situation of evidence. God needs to bring something to the table soon.
>>74631732
just learned about occams razor yesterday bro?
your magical theory that everything came from literally nothing sounds rather retarded. you cant respond because you realize how retarded the notion that humanity evolved from a rock is.
>>74631791
God defined a bat as a bird. Can you tell me why thats wrong
>>74631800
are you talking about 'ice' hockey?
