Why was Australia able to gain independence from the British through peaceful negotiation, while America had to chimp out and kill hundreds of thousands for the same result?
And they seem to unironically take pride in this country wide shitfit that they threw.
>>74532378
We remained subject to the Commonwealth and they didnt
>>74532378
Dude fuck tea-tax, seriously.
you are cucks who lost to the birds
>>74532506
Tea is worth going to war over? What about the taxation of burgers?
>>74532486
As if that's a bad thing. Whites need to be more united in whatever way possible
>>74532579
Where did I say thats a bad thing or a good thing you weird cunt
>>74532565
If it was Britain taxing our burgers, there would be no more Britain.
>>74532565
We would never let a foreign government tax our beef industry.
Did a dingo really eat that ladies baby?
>>74532378
You cunts still worship the queen.
>>74532579
>As if that's a bad thing
It is.
>>74532662
WE invented the sandwich and by extension the burger.
Get fucked Yanks.
>>74532862
>Beef
>2016
>Haram
Pick one
>>74532646
I'm too used to Yanks being Yanks.
>>74532802
Like this fucker
>>74532738
Yep. It was pretty common knowledge in the area that that rangers dingo was a problem animal.
>>74532802
Fuck you yank
>>74533292
Fuck you old lady worshipper
The American Revolution was a proxy war fomented by France.
The French armed, trained, funded, supplied terrorist radicals who espoused in fanatical fashion the anti-monarchic ideology of republicanism.
These rebels were a minority among the population and their numbers were bolstered by foreign fighters from all over Europe.
Unfortunately the British abandoned us and left us to the mercy of those bandits.
>>74533346
Queens>Niggers
Murica didn't HAVE to chimp out, there was was massive support for colonial autonomy in the British parliament, the government could barely maintain support for the war to suppress the Patriots, they only deployed troops because just rolling over and abandoning the colonies to a (minority) rebel group would have tanked Britain's global reputation and made us look weak at a time where Spain and France were both pissed as fuck at us and looking to strip us of supporters in Europe and India.
The British position was basically 'beat them, then give them pretty much everything they're demanding anyway' because maintaining trade with the colonies and the infrastructure there (so it didn't fall to Spanish or French invasion) was way more important than maintaining control over them and the minimal tax revenue that it brough in (the majority of which was spent on colonial defences and never benefited Britain directly anyway).
Defeat for Washington and his supporters would have basically resulted in them getting what they wanted anyway, it's probably one of the most pointless wars ever to be fought in human history because both sides basically wanted the same thing, they were just fighting over the prestige of whether it was granted or taken by force.
Yanks being yanks at the end of the day, don't do with diplomacy and negotiation what you can do with war and the blood of your young men.
>>74533390
elections>monarchy
>>74533390
Niggers>sandniggers
>>74533350
You live in MN, don't you? Filthy sympathizer
>>74533430
More like the blood of your young men :^)
>>74533447
Look at the west today and reconsider your evaluation of these elecetions
>>74533350
>Unfortunately the British abandoned us and left us to the mercy of those bandits.
You basically bankrupted them by having them fund your entire war effort, prop up the US government and had their fleet engaging the Royal Navy all over the world at great cost.
Which they did willingly in the belief that you'd turn your back on Britain and divert all your trade to France and her colonies and they'd gain all that money back in the coming years while Britain withered and would be unable to fund further expeditions in India, leaving the subcontinent to the French.
Then when the peace was signed, your merchants went straight back to trading with their buddies in London as though the war never happened.
France was kill. We didn't leave you at the mercy of anyone.
You're basically the reason the largest European empire was Britain and not France.
>>74533447
Constitutional monarchy>Democracy
>Yeah lets ruin our country by letting everybody vote because freedom hahhahahaha
>>74533546
We're only 4% Muslim but Sandniggers are way better than niggers desu it's only bad when there's a huge population of them like in France or Belgium because they're a lot smarter than nignogs.
>>74532378
Because the the USA's chimp out scared the UK.
>>74532378
You guys were a penal colony, the Crowns refuse to be discarded on a bleak giant island filled with abbos. We decided fuck the king and his taxes and gun grabbing bs. I mean take a look at this pansy.
>>74533767
You just elected a muslim as the mayor of your only relevant city m8
Any independence gained after WWI doesn't count.
>>74533831
>F-F-France and S-Spain we need your help please attack the Brits in Spain
>>74533652
We lost fewer men in battle than you did. Redcoats > Continental Army man for man.
>>74532378
Different periods in time you stupid fuck.
>>74532378
>americans have balls
>ausfailia is still cucked
pick both
>>74533899
>Black President
>Pic related
>Y..you have a Muslim mayor!
Glass houses m8.
>>74533899
>that's supposed to be an argument against democracy
All of your relevant cities are black or Hispanic m8
>>74533869
Uncultured disgusting nigger detected.
>>74532378
hundreds of thousands? b8
Only like 20k died from battle. Most people in the war died of disease. Which back in those days who didn't die from disease?
>>74534065
whats even worst is that London is 60% white and still elects a durka durka... Get it together
>>74533975
wise kiwi
>>74533935
Well you killed more of us in battle by about 1k. You had more casualties than us, for what that's worth. Plus you had 41,000 deserters, which is pretty ridiculous when you consider you only lost 5,000 to death in battle.
>>74534065
Meh we're both fucked. Small towns are our haven I guess. At least we aren't france/belgium
>>74534118
>>74532378
>Why was Australia able to gain independence from the British through peaceful negotiation
because we chimped out and killed thousands of brits
the brits didn't want to deal with another fucking colonial revolt.
>>74534070
I am a redneck, family fought against the crown, fought against the yankees and will fight who ever is next.
>Dumb penal colonist thinks they negotiated their own independence
Protip: the Brits didn't want any ties with the scum of the earth they sent to Abo Land in the first place
>>74534227
No we killed way more of you than you did of us just look at the battles in Canada for crying out loud
The French did the most damage
>>74534283
>even though my reigon is poor,uncultured and full of blacks imma do wut ma inbred ancestors be doing aint dat rite suthan bois
>>74534240
yeah look at the numbers.. Team USA: total dead from battle 6k Total dead: 30 k...
Most soldiers back then died from diseases that they would have died from normally/if there wasnt a war. I get OP's point, but 'hundreds of thousands dead' is exaggerated
>>74532738
She killed her fucking baby
Dingo's are just fucking dogs
>>74532378
You faggot, we didn't want to secede but they just kept pushing our buttons and kept trying to intervene in things that they hadn't intervened in for the 100 or so years that we were just colonies.
Hell, that's how our appreciation for freedom was found. It was because Britain didn't give a shit about us and just left us to die in the harsh conditions of the lands (Such as Virginia, which was a massive fucking disaster until they found their the goldmine of tobacco), it was from that sense of isolation and barely existent rule that we prospered the most. Then the good old Crown decided to start giving a shit about what we did, got us in the war of 1763 and then taxed the shit out of us for it (Granted, the colonies were taxed a lot less than the actual nation itself, but it doesn't change the fact we didn't want the war in the first place). We tried to negotiate on some kind of agreement but the Mother country wouldn't have it, and we wouldn't have them. So we told them to fuck on off, which of course the French loved and decided to help us with our task.
Fuck off, you shitposting fuck.
>>74534065
>>74534172
I thought London was below 50% now?
>>74533935
No doubt, but have you ever heard of British General John Burgoyne? He was the first British general to surrender on the field of battle in over 500 years. He surrendered to colonists at the battle of Saratoga.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burgoyne
George Washingtion would accept a second British surrender to end the war.
Kinda pathetic tbqh famalam
>Send your best an Brightest to America
>They revolt
>Send thousands of Irish criminals to Australia
>Ironclad loyalty
Friendly reminder Australian McDonalds is now Halal, they have small little stickers on the drive through box to make sure you're all up to date! :^)
>>74532378
we take pride because we won. those fucks wanted to tax our tea leaves we grew then ship them back to us and we beat them up for it
"we will beat you up to if you try to fuck us" should be some where in our national anthem towards the end
>>74532378
Your penal colony got off easy because the Bongs still remembered what happened the last time a major colony wanted independence.
>>74534541
Below 50% British white I'm guessing. Lots of Poles and other non British whites.
>>74534065
At least USA is just a colony. Britain is supposed to be one of our greatest and proudest nations.
>>74534613
Man is the US the only former colony to actively resist the mudslime cucking? Stand up my fellow anglos
>>74534682
>"we will pander to you if you try to fuck us"
>>74534530
>If Lord North had had a stroke we, together may still rule the earth today.
>>74534694
>>74534682
Lads you got your arse kicked. >>74534240
If the Americucks just acted like good English folk and stayed in the Empire the world would be so much better of a place. The Empire would have taken over even more of Mexico then America did so less dirty fucking Mexicans to worry about, no World War one in the way we understand it because the British Empire including America would be more than enough to crush the Germans or prevent the war from ever starting in the first place. No World War Two either and without the two world wars the British Empire would still be alive and well and it would be defending the white race. Instead Americukastan elected a chimp and now is about to elect a convict.
>>74534415
>Implying I live in the south.
How long till you have a Paki King?
>>74533904
Australia federated in 1901.
>>74532378
>the same result
last time i checked we weren't a nation full of shitposting mongoloid faggots
>>74534227
The British Army used flogging extensively to maintain discipline (American slaves were shocked to see white men being flogged worse than they were apparantly) and although on paper it was 'volunteer only', in reality the vast majority of those men were essentially kidnapped whilst drunk, forced to join to avoid being sentenced to death or years of hard labour, or joined because they grew up in a slum and had absolutely zero prospects.
Faced with an English-speaking country which was happy to accept new British settlers and, I believe, was offering parcels of land to Redcoats who were willing to abandon the Colours, it's not surprising desertion rates were that high.
The war was also extremely unpopular in Britain, so these men weren't going home to a heroes welcome at all and soldiers have always been derided in Britain.
>>74534744
>USA
>Fellow Anglos
>>74532378
America was far more valuable
>>74534591
I think you mean
>Send the unemployed and religious extremists to America
>Have to get into debt to work on land
>They revolt over taxes to pay for a war they started
>Refuse to join the Great war but still profit from it
>Send the starving and the ethnicities you don't want in Britain
>Give them free land if they farm it
>They work hard and stay loyal in the land you've given them
>They volunteer the minute war breaks out
>>74534822
How long till you have a black president? Oh wait.
>>74534541
Poles keeping London majority white. White British are something like 40% now.
>>74534777
Is this what we sound like when we talk about vietnam? I mean we annihilated those farmers, but shit. UK only outscored us by ~1k
>>74534855
Nigger my family came over on the mayflower
>>74534760
I wouldn't play my bets on it. Even if Lord North died and someone competent took the position and cooled down the tension, things would have only gotten worse as time progressed and the US would have most likely turned into a twin of Canada.
Wasn't Princess Diana preggers with a muslim?
>>74532951
Pork is haram you ignorant infidel
>>74535072
Jews crashed her car because of that
>>74533652
That's actually really sad, if you think about it hard enough.
>>74534999
>Is this what we sound like when we talk about vietnam?
Pretty much.
>Nigger my family came over on the mayflower
>what's an outlier
Just like Rhodesia,South Africa ect
Maybe it's gods revenge?
>>74534986
>posts a pic of a coal-burner
Oooh, that's ironic.
>>74534986
Meh, everyone gets a bad leader every once in a while, Presidents are temporary, Royalty is forever.
>>74535072
Yup that's true, and so is the story that she was assassinated by MI6 on the orders of the Duke of Edinburgh via the tried and tested method of getting her chauffeur slightly tipsy and then paying paparazzi to follow her car.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q
>>74532378
America tried multiple times to gain independence or autonomy peacefully, but the British king at the time wouldn't have any of it. He was intent on 'crushing the rebellion' and 'teaching us a swift lesson' so he sent his 3 best generals and a larger military force than Britain had ever sent anywhere - which resulted in standoffs and skirmishes in Boston and New York and eventually to an all out brutal war inland.
The indepth histories of the revolutionary war are very interesting, I've read a few books on it.
>>74535230
>>74535072
and what happened to her?
The Queen is based you cunts she supports Brexit
>>74535215
Perhaps. But as far as the map goes, my county is 66% white, but is marked as mexican there. Disregarded
>>74532738
There's actually a whole bunch of conspiracy theories and proven conspiracies about that. They covered it up and framed her for the murder because they thought killer dingos would be bad for tourism.
>>74535362
>He can't handle the facts
>America isn't 62% white
>>74535474
It is, but I'm talking about the county I live in, not country you illiterate fuck. My county is 66% white, but the map you posted says we're majority mexican. If you avoid the large cities, you avoid minorities. Just like everywhere else
>>74532378
The King (or this case, queen) of England has the power to dissolve your parliament. Even though, that is not likely to ever happen, don't be so sure to say that you have Independence in the same way that we do.
>>74532579
"united" as in "LETS FLOOD OUR COUNTRIES WITH VIOLENT MUD SLIMES" No, thanks
>>74535331
Nah, don't worry about me Anon., I'm a crypto-Anglo. I support monarchy, because unless a miracle happens in my country, the system of democracy, which imports new voters who will vote "the right way", will have destroyed this country.
>>74535304
>I've read a few books on it.
>a larger military force than Britain had ever sent anywhere
Might want to re-read those books or find some that are actually factual.
We deployed more troops to just a single battle at Blenheim during the Wars of Spanish Succession than we had deployed in America at any point during the years-long Revolutionary War.
>>74535603
HM can't do shit to the Australian Parliament. If she ever did, they just tell her to do one and declare a Republic, her position (in the Commonwealth at least) is entirely ceremonial.
>>74533447
>elections
>good
Niggers, women, and mexicans are deciding your future, m8. And it's all simply because they outnumber you. Tyranny of the majority and all that.
>>74532662
underrated post
>>74536024
Shoo, no one cares about your slightly-modified sandwich 'invention'.
>>74534777
You hired German merceneries for the front lines, we were barely equipped to fight a war -
The end result does not tell the whole story you need to understand what happened in 1775-1776 to understand the war. Neither side really wanted to fight the other and everytime the British attacked they would send the Germans in first who were extremely brutal and would decapitate the continentals and put their heads on spikes etc. The early battles usually ended very quickly with one side or the other just retreating or surrendering because no one really wanted to die on either side.
>>74532662
>You can take our freedom, but you will never take our burgers!
kek
>>74533292
*unzips cock*
Get to work then whore
>>74535779
Well I'm very open to whatever history book you consider to be more factual.
>>74536143
>everytime the British attacked they would send the Germans in first
>>74532662
>>74536233
Any that aren't used in American schools really.
>>74536260
>mfw the Germans get their revenge for that during the 40s
>>74536452
>implying
>>74536452
>lose the war
>Get invaded by refugees later and don't process them properly
>"Revenge"
might have some pickled pork for tea
>>74536517
I'm not implying anything. You were getting slammed into the dirt by the Krauts. The only reason you got to launch back was because of us being on your rainy island.
>>74536517
Yeah Dresden was good for a laugh but now the germans are sperging out and trying to destroy the entire continent including themselves in retaliation.
>>74536691
>Hurr we saved ur butts from Hitler and his Commies in WW1 you limey fuck!
>American 'education' system strikes again
>>74535779
Maybe he is counting the vast numbers of natives and freed slaves that they allied with.
>>74536325
>Yet, despite foreign assistance, the victory was unquestionably the Americans' own
John Keegan
A History of Warfare
Sir John Desmond Patrick Keegan OBE FRSL (15 May 1934 – 2 August 2012) was a British military historian, lecturer, writer and journalist. He was the author of many published works on the nature of combat between the 14th and 21st centuries concerning land, air, maritime, and intelligence warfare, as well as the psychology of battle.
----
He comes to the same conclusion as every other book, the British had an overwhelming strength to fight at the coast and at sea but when they moved inland the Americans completely dominated.
>>74533045
Shutup bitch, we could literally tickle your country's butthole with nuclear fire
>>74536128
Except for you lil miss angsty
>>74533430
If you say so, Abdul
>>74536874
Because you would have been able to counter air assault the Nazis and counter attacked Germany on occupied mainland Europe with your shitty equipment.
You are a stupid motherfucker
>>74536949
Where does it say that we sent the greatest army we'd ever deployed to crush the rebel patriots? Did you forget what we were discussing or are you deliberately trying to strawman?
If it actually does, I think you can toss the thing in the trash because we didn't, as I pointed out, England and Britain had both deployed greater forces to single battles in Yurup than were active in the Americas during any point of the Revolutionary War.
The British military response was minimal, due to the threat of a Franco-Spanish invasion of Britain itself, the need to garrison Indian and West Indian territories and the fact the war was deeply unpopular with both the government and the public, making allocation of extra military assets neigh on impossible.
>the British had an overwhelming strength to fight at the coast and at sea but when they moved inland the Americans completely dominated.
i.e. the Patriots had fuck all naval power so even a few RN frigates could dominate the coast, but British Army assets in the theatre were minimal so land warfare was doomed from the start. Basically what I've been saying, I'm not sure what you're arguing with me for.
>>74537305
>counter attacked Germany on occupied mainland Europe
wat r commandos
>>74537371
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_during_the_American_War_of_Independence#New_York_and_New_Jersey_1776
After withdrawing from Boston, Howe immediately began preparations to seize New York which was considered the 'hinge' of the colonies. In late August, 22,000 men (including 9,000 Hessians[3]) were rapidly landed on Long Island using flat bottomed boats, this would be the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the British army until the Normandy landings almost 200 years later.
>>74532378
usa part from british while british were still powerfull, so they didnt want to late go.
for austrelia, british let them go when they understood they dont have enough power to control so many colonies. they bitched out gracefully.
>>74536990
Do it then faggot. Show us you're not just all talk.
>>74537591
let*
>>74532548
and poland lost to everything else in history
>>74537516
>largest amphibious operation undertaken by the British army
>>74535304
>"he sent his 3 best generals and a larger military force than Britain had ever sent anywhere"
>"a larger military force than Britain had ever sent anywhere"
One French guest told British diplomat Caleb Whitefoord that "the Thirteen United States world form the greatest empire in the world." Whitefoord's response was prophetic: "Yes sir, and they will ALL speak English; everyone of 'em."
>>74537371
The greatest Navy I meant. Sorry I'm just used to British completely denying 1776 ever happened.
Considering your experienced military lost to a bunch of farmers armed with shovels and stolen british cannons I don't really blame you for it.
>>74532579
>Whites need to be more united in whatever way possible
Jump on my cock, Pekka. I'll gibe to you a lifetime supply of vodka.
>>74537502
Commandos...COMMANDOS....
You fucking dumb british cock sucker. Commandos.
Ok let's do this. Originally limey fag bragged about how they firebombed dresden. Ok, then I inquired how would that have been possible without American bombing, sorties, American led D-Day invasion, American replaced equipment for British loses after Dunkirk, supplies, etc. That's when limey said small groups of combat covert troops.
Meanwhile the Nazi army in occupied western europe numbered in the millions.
I want you to tell me why what you just said was stupid. At the least what you said was just the urge to get last word.
>>74537786
>a bunch of farmers armed with shovels and stolen british cannons
Gonna have to try harder if you want a bite m8
>>74532378
Little Englander cucks weren't around at the time so the English wanted to actually keep their empire.
We originally wanted the thing you guys got, where the local assemblies would govern us but we'd still be of the crown's domain, but Georgie said fuck you, you shits are worth too much to let go.
>>74537305
Get educated
>>74537895
>Originally limey fag bragged about how they firebombed dresden.
Ya, that was me.
>then I inquired how would that have been possible without American bombing
We firebombed Dresden at night because Luftwaffe cannot into nightfighting because British radar > German radar
>American replaced equipment for British loses after Dunkirk
Thankyou for selling us lots of war materials and getting rich. True heroes.
>That's when limey said small groups of combat covert troops.
Still a counter attack, against Germoney on occupied mainland Europe. Which is what you said we couldn't do.
We were also winning against Italians and Germans in North Africa before you guys decided to join in.
I get that it's basically your major achievement as a nation but it just makes you look stupid to other countries if you just parrot your own Hollywood propaganda.
>>74538260
likewise
>A father and son fighting
This thread is horrible
Australia was an uninhabitable shit hole that no one wanted to go to and it largely remains one. Independence from the UK wasn't a sensible option for much of its existence and as Australia grew it naturally received autonomy until it was a real country.
>>74532378
Because they didn't need a rotten desert shithole filled with criminals
>>74538347
>n-n-no technically you said (a) where I found the loop hole in the words to win my argument
even when I allow you to make amends you sound fucking stupid. Shamefully stupid too.
3 Million German troops would have butt-fucked you. Case closed. You can cherry pick completely silly operations that would have plucked a German hair, without noticing in your dire state you would have been bitchslapped into outer space by them.
>>74538706
>3 Million German troops would have butt-fucked you.
>What is Operation Sealion
>"The German High Command had no confidence that the plan was feasible, and most historians agree it had little possibility of success."
Navy > Army
United Kingdom GCSE History > The World War 2 colouring book that counts as a history lesson in American School
>>74533767
Dindus > Mudslimes
>>74534791
But America entered both world wars on the allied side senpai
>>74538706
Also, Germany and Britain had been at war for three years before American troops started arriving in the UK in preparation for Op Overlord.
Where exactly was this butt-fucking/bitch-slap that we were utterly incapable of stopping without your help during this time?
(You don't have to answer, I'm not actually interested in what your indoctrination instructor told you, I just wanted an excuse to post pic related, I like wartime propaganda)
>>74538918
What about operation sea lion? That's a defensive campaign on your part. We're talking about launching an attack on German Occupied WE with only your own shit in tow. Stop changing the subject faggot. Because you know you wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in hell.
>>74539136
I'm not even sure you even read the original statement in context at all but instead is just referring to genericresponsetoamericans.exe
what will you do next? Start debating life on the Planet Jupiter?
>>74539200
>We're talking about launching an attack on German Occupied WE with only your own shit in tow.
wat r commandos
>Australia
>land where no one wanted to go, full of criminals, no worthwhile resources
>who gives a fuck
>America
>land of opportunity, huge amount of land most uninhabited, lots of resources
>GIBSMEDAT
>>74532579
Alright snow elf, go hold hands with the russkies and see if you change your tune.
>>74539312
So you don't have a reason that the Germany Army which was, according to you, completely capable of, to use your term 'buttfucking' Britain for all of 1940, 1941 and 1942, didn't do so despite there being no major US military presence in the UK during that time?
So you're basically admitting you're wrong and Britain didn't need you to save it.
Are we actually getting somewhere?
Can an American be educated?
Should I alert the Press?
>>74539413
>wat r commandos
The guys running trains on your mom?
>>74539551
Now you're just shitposting.
Being able to attack dresden without a Nazi super counter assault full of v1s and v2s would have been impossible with Shitain on it's own, with nothing but itself. An invasion onto WE would have been impossible with Shitain on it's own by itself....
And I said invasion and assault....not fucking raids.
>>74535115
Found the ahmed
>>74534245
Nah,
We were given the right to federate because the Brits were running out of money.
I wonder why?
>>74532378
Dat flag
Literally baka senpai
You don't get a free pass
I was so stupid to not see that flag too.
Fucking Australia wins again!
>>74532378
Americans like to pretend "we were fighting for freedom and representation!" when in reality they were fighting because they were greedy kikes who didn't want to pay taxes even though those taxes paid for the Royal Navy to protect their shipping lanes and land.
America is literally directly responsible for the shit state of the world right now.
>>74532378
Because we weren't infiltrated by nasty Frogs and Krauts who were only in the America's in the first place to escape the crowns justice.
>>74533546
>Niggers>sandniggers
sandniggers actually were kings and shit, they had a top-tier culture and history ruined only by their fanatic religious view.
