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What does /pol/ think about Macedonia?
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>>74530265
Who?
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>>74530301

Shut up ameri fat
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>FYROM
They have the most cucked name of any country on earth.
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>>74530657

They may have a cucked name but atleast they don't bow down and suck the dicks of the UN like your cucked leader
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>>74530792
shhh...no cucks only trump now

What I'd Macedonia like ethnically?
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>>74530919
*is
wtf
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>>74530919

That's what I like to hear.

Mainly all ethnic Macedonians with afew Albanians but they're pretty chill anyway. Don't trust Wikipedia with what it says about the demographics, it's all bullshit. After the Bosnian and Serbian war the US pretty much made them take in Muslims but they're kept at bay. Check out the Orhid peace framework if you get time
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>>74530265
I don't think about it
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I hear it's pretty great to vacation there because everything is so fucking cheap it's ridiculous. Same reason the Italians swarm Albania
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I'm friends with a Macedonian Albanian. He's an upper level weed dealer. He hates slavs in his country and tells me he wants to tie concrete shoes to their feet and dump them in some place called Lake Ohrid. He has a trap """"girlfriend"""" who used the men's bathroom one time at my workplace and freaked everybody out.

Other than that literally no opinion or idea about Macedonia. Why does it look like Airzona's state flag?
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>>74530657
What does FYROM even mean?
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>>74530265
literally the we wuz Alexander n shiet amusement park the country
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>>74530265
Their capital spawned a great song

https://youtu.be/rPAAoSFfFww
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>>74531550

Some of them are good people but the others try to take advantage of tourists because they know how stupid westerners are. Sounds like a pretty chill bloke, tell him pitcka matre shiptre then spit in his face. It's the Macedonian way of greeting someone
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>>74531623
Former Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia, a name the international community gives it due to Greek crying about muh Alexander da Great
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>>74531623

Google it retard
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>>74531132
>draw up borders for a new country
>include huge ethnic minorities because you don't want to give up any territory

Will countries EVER stop doing this? It's just a ticking time bomb. Ask any Estonian, or probably any Arab
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>>74531816
desu their country is not even where ancient Macedonia was, it was a Thraco/Illyrian territory
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>>74531623
How is this your first time finding out? You live in the same region as this country
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>>74530265
crypto-greeks
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Best country
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>>74530265
WE WUZ CONQUERERS N SHEEIT
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Rightful Bulgarian clay
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Ethnic Macedonian here

Pretty nice country

It seems like George Soros and Albanian nationalists are trying to destroy the country. As do edgy Balkans on /pol/ who lay claim to the entirety of Macedonia - but I'm sure it'll be fine.
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>>74534309
>ethnic macedonian

no such thing
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>>74534309
>Ethnic Macedonian here
>Heмa знaмe oд aвcтpaлијa

He ти вepyвaм
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>>74530265
Not a real country, but might as well leave them be since they're filled with albanians
...although Romania infested us with gypsies and t*rks are living on the border
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>>74535164
>Not a real country
By what metric?
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>>74535452
A literal province, they speak the same language, commie overlord until recently.
What makes them a real country? A booming economy?
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>>74530265
Should not even be a state. Split it 3-ways with Albania, Bulgaria and Serbia.
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>>74534309
>Ethnic Macedonian
Literally no such thing exists mate...Get a fucking DNA test...you are living a lie.
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>>74534309
>ethnic Macedonian here.
HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>74535509
Can't argue that lol
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>>74536131
>>74536180
Eat shit shiptar, you're not getting jack.
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Had a macedonian slumlord. Greedy hairy gold chain wearing stereotype. Took no shit from shitty blacks would call CPS on them if their room smelled like weed with children around.
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>>74536625
Michigan?
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>>74536604
Thank you for revealing your self Serb. It is a shoot and a miss on your part though. I am not Albanian.
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Pretty good, but sometimes the orange juice kills the flavour of the apple.
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>>74532081
thanks based cyrpus
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>>74536826
Yes you are, always going on about stealing clay.
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>>74537009
Jesus christ you faggots are literally worse than Turkish shit-posters. Where in my comment did I mention anything regarding stealing clay. I simply pointed out that the Macedonian state should be split with its neighboring states. Fuck off you delusional faggot.
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>>74537368
k
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>>74532504
More like openly wanna-be-Greeks
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Fyrom is bulgarian-\greek clay but the ppl living there have become so degenerate and brainsashed so that non of us give a fuck about our rightful land. Lets not forget that fyrom has like 30% albanian population. Fuck fyrom.
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Also fuck all the fyrom ppl applying for bulgarian citizenship for free gibs and shit.
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>>74530265

You spelled "Western-Bulgaria" wrong.

Or alternatively North-Greece or Eastern-Albania.
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Macedonia?

No such thing, only Bulgars in denial.
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>>74530265
Cool flag.
They're orthodox 60% and Islamic 30%
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>>74537546
Bulgarians and Albanians pretending to be ancient Greeks white simultaneously hating Albania, Bulgaria and Greece.
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>>74530265
no one thinks about macedonia.
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There are no women in Macedonia, only cows. If you look at their cows, they will shoot you.
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>>74540133
Pretty accurate.
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>>74541597
Aren't they just Bulgarians though?
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>>74542003
Not just Bulgarians
That country is literally faker than Belgium
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Anything interesting happen there since Alexander took a stroll through asia?
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>>74542158
Those Albanians came later though and they are Muslim. I'm talking about the """Macedonians""" themselves, aren't they just Bulgars?
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gay
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>>74542366
>Aren't "Macedonians" Bulgarians?

Tbh all Slavic languages sound the same to me. Bulgarians say they are Bulgarians and Serbians say they are Serbian and they both could be right for all I know.

The west of the country is Albanian through and through. It's a Kosovo waiting to happen.

Irrelevant: The country.
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You mean West-Bulgaria?
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>>74542366
Yeah, they are the same Slavophones of the Ottoman period as those that created Bulgaria (meaning a composite of Slavs, Bulgars and Thracians). Differentiation happened in the early 20th Century, because the political partition of the region following the Balkan Wars didn't put much thought on the different ethnic groups inhabiting it, and Bulgarians of the western parts ended up being part of Serbia (rather than Bulgaria), and eventually Yugoslavia. The second fuck-up was after the dissolution of Yugoslavia. At that point, the geographical region of FYROM had become politically distinct from Bulgaria because of communism and whatnot (think Moldova vs Romania) and rather than joining Bulgaria, they decided to build their own separate identity. To make matters worse, the western regions inhabited by Albanians (they didn't come later, but had also been there during Ottoman years) weren't granted to lolalbania either. That's how the "WE WUZ GREEK" fairy-tales of the early 90's started.
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>>74542230
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>>74540133
I'm surprised that someone from Albania says it how it is.

FYROM is an artificially created state for a artificially created ethnic group claiming to be descendants of ancient Macedonians. Those who live there and believe this are literally a joke but despite the bullshit which they claim I have met many FYROM citizens who are aware of who and what they are.
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>>74540133
kek, pretty spot on
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>>74530265
Greater Albania comes to mind.
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>>74543184

Why do you feel insulted? I know nothing of macedonian history.
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greek clay :^
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>>74540133
We don't hate Bulgaria and Greece but fuck Albania.
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>>74542785
That's...not true at all. Just because they sound the same to you doesn't mean they are. There are obvious and well-documented differences between the Bulgaria/FYROM Slavs and the Slavophones living in the historical Illyria. They are different groups both linguistically (Bulgarian vs Shtokavian) and anthropologically (composite of Bulgars/Slavs/Thracians vs composite of Illyrian/Slavs/(plus Muslims-whatevers in Bosnia)).
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>>74530265
>What does /pol/ think about Macedonia?
An artificial nation that is already dying less than a century after its creation, being taken over by the albo-zerg.

RIP in peace FYROM of Macedonia, 1991-2016.
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Still think they're all that because of something some dude did 2300 years ago.
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>>74543118
That true but there are some details left out. The region known today as FYROM was mainly Bulgarian during the Ottoman Empire as Ottoman documents from the 19th century state themselves. After 1878 the region was in dispute between Greeks, Serbs and Bulgarians who all tried to brainwash the local population into presenting themselves as their own ethnicity (mainly trying to melt Bulgarians into Greeks or Serbs).

During the Yugoslav era it was imposed on the people in this region that they weren't Bulgarians/Serbs/Greeks but actually "Macedonians" and thus a language called "Macedonian" was also invented. Artificially that is.

Its a lot of brainwashing and thats really really simplified in my post.

Also Moldova had a existing country during the middle ages. It was one of three wallachian countries and often either a subject nation to the Russian Tsar or the Ottoman Sultan but they existed. Unlike Macedonia.
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>>74530301
heh, stupid illiterate fatburger.

macedonia is the only country in the world where the west is albania.
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Never heard of it.
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>>74543460
>was mainly Bulgarian during the Ottoman Empire
Mainly populated by ethnic Bulgarians what I meant to say
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How come we're "dying" but we prosper more than any point in history?

Would you rather live in Bulgaria than Macedonia?
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>>74543329
I'm honestly gonna bite the bait and elaborate.
Alexander spoke Greek, believed in the Greek gods, was born in Pella, which is in modern day greece.
Macedonians were able to participate in the olympic games, which only Greeks could take place in.
There's much more evidence showing that the ancient macedonians were Hellenic. FYROMians are Slavs, and came to the area 600 years after Alexander was dead. They speak a dialect of Bulgarian.
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Hmmm
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>>74543621

Sorry Greece-sama!! I didn't know any of that. I'll go and read up on some history.
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>>74543460
Yeah, this is true. Influence from surrounding countries along with multiple periods of political differentiation are the main reasons their ethnic identity became so confused.
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>>74530265
Nothing, I was once in Macedonia, in Ohrid, and there was constant Serbian music and I could shop shit while speaking Serbian so it felt like home, except a few women and girls in those muslim head thingies, felt kinda exotic
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We are not slavs, we descent from the ancient Macedonians
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Slavs are people who came from North-eastern europe, we've been in Macedonia for thousands of years. That is an attempt to assimilate us
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>>74543635
L-look guys... I grew...

I grew to be only 4 times poorer than a bankrupt country at the peak of its great depression.

TOP KEK
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>>74530265
rightful clay
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Macedonia is turning into a large version of Kosovo. 25% of it˙s population is Albanian and growing
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>>74530265
I thought you pronounced it Mackedonia, not Massedonia.

That's about it. Also I thought they closed their borders to invaders so that's cool.
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>>74530265

Not liberated.
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>>74543734
Its a shame that Albanian birth rates will eventually turn it into a conflict zone as was/is Kosovo.

The corrupt politician "elite" (as in sadly all of the Balkan, and apparently European countries) doing nothing except helping their own interests doesn't help as well.

However impossible it may be for the moment partitioning the country between its neighbors may be the best possible solution. However fuck having a border with Albania.
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>>74543831
>>74543879

WE WUZ: the country.

honestly.
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>>74534309
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>74543963
18% Albanian
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>>74543926

Nice try faggot
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>>74543831
Not even trolling with this, if you are Macedonians, why don't you try to adopt Greek as an official language? It has worked in other countries (like Israel and Turkey), so why not?

That wouldn't make you Greek/Macedonian still, but maybe you'd become less of a laughing stock if you at least tried. As you are now, looking, speaking and acting Bulgarian, you are literally like sub-saharan Africans claiming they are related to ancient Egypt.
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>>74543879
>>74543926
We wuz Greeks n shit
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>>74544230
mother fucking rare!
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>>74544325
Shit i accidentally clicked on >>74543926
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mala makedonka top makedonka
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>>74544230
>serbia poorer than macedonia

What the fuck happened?
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>>74544521
NATO bombs and corruption
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>>74544521
real map
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>>74536180
Even if they are Slavic, they have a right to call themselves what they want.
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>>74544584
>nato bombs
how can this cause poverty
>corruption
like fyrom doesn't have it
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>>74544651
>ukraine higher than moldova
>russia higher than bulgaria and romania
When was this estimated, exactly?

Also,
>crimea part of ukraine
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>>74544231

It's all memes, we secretly enjoy being proto-Bulgarians.

I am a Macedonian from Skopje. Ask me anything and I'll give you a serious, no-bullshit answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-t9XX2PXXM
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>>74544696
>how can this cause poverty
Well I'm certain it doesn't help
>like fyrom doesn't have it
Well Serbs are better at it, step up your game Macedonia!
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>>74544355
He's a Bulgarian proxy.

>>74530265
I know some facts about it, I think it is pretty based that they have 365 churches in the city named Ohrid (one for every saint of the year); but, unfortunately, they have 1095 mosques in Skopje (one for every prayer)...
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>>74544752
Between family and friends do you identify as a Macedonian? As in Macedonian being a different ethnicity from Bulgarian? Or you acknowledge you are Bulgarian (or possibly Albanian) and just live in the country of FYROM?
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>>74544696
Actually, it was the sanctions, that lasted for 10 years, no trade so industry turned to dust. NATO destroyed much of the infrastructure, when they saw they could not harm our military, they turned to bombing civilian targets so we surrender.
On the other hand, we do not protest because we can not pay for electrical bills like you bulgarians, so I wouldn't gloat too much, all the Balkans are shitty in their own way
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>>74544752
How could they cram 1095 mosques into a 500 thousand population city?
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Balkans is the most fucked up place regarding territories. There are three countries, which are officially recognized as independent states, with fake ethnicities. FYROM, Bosnia and Montenegro don't even deserve to exist along with their artificial ethnicities and languages.
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>>74545187
Would you rather all of their land go to Albania instead?
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>>74530265
Best looking flag out there. Nice country.
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>>74545240

No, that'd just open the floodgates. They'd just demand for more and more lands until they control the whole former Illyrian territories. Basically, muslims being muslims.
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>>74544910
Dumb question
>>74545006
Dumb question
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>>74545386
If the question is dumb that's an even dumber answer.
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>>74545187
Who gives a shit, when we're swallowed by the EU and have no borders it won't matter if you're a made-up statelet or a """"real"""" country. You faggots take these things way to seriously.
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>>74545508
Ok, my apologies. To answer your question, we identify as Albanian living in fyrom.
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>>74543403
>RIP in peace FYROM of Macedonia
Do you know what rip and FYROM mean?

It sounds stupit when you say things like >rest in peace in peace former yogoslav republic of Macedonia of macedonia
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>>74545334
Georgia flag better imo senpai, but Macedonia pretty damn fly.
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>>74545657

Gr8 b8 m8
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>>74545657
great8 bait8 mate8
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>>74545615
Oh, did expect calling me a cunt or something like that. Well cool, so you're Albanian then.

What is your take on the future of FYROM then? Ethnic tension between Albanians and Macedonians/Bulgarians isn't new but now the country has another ethnic challenge with thousands of "refugees" from the Middle East.
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>>74545671
Tnx my nigga
We outchea
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>>74545817
There are no Bulgarians/Macedonians in FYROM. The people identify as Albanians, like I said.

I predict no ethnic strife and massive, country-wide development on a scale the Brits expect to see when they leave the EU.
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>>74545693
>>74545749
U wot m8s
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>>74530265
WE
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>>74536349
>>74544135
O you gypsy sandniggers think that you are ethnic Macedonians?
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>>74546175
why is there no albania trying to stab the baby to death?
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>>74546219
well yeah there's that too
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>>74530265
>Macedonia

Like , the region in Greece?
They are ok.
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>>74545386
Not even memeing, I have heard there are 1095 mosques crammed into Skopje.
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>>74546175
I lold
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>>74530265
Good ppl. Except skopians. Fuck skopians. Skopians are anticki macedons/serboman nationalists/albanians.
Ohrid is based.
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>>74546294
Skopje = Eastern european LA, with BIGGER PROJECTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWjF1gekm_E
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>>74546576
Why are those 1095 mosques hidden in the video?
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>>74546128
can you read this?
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>>74546945
kek, don't even waste your time. If he had a bit of reason within him, he wouldn't think he was Macedonian.
>tfw you can understand most of the text
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>>74546945
He doesn't have 1095 phillip statues, one for every prayer, for every day of the week
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>>74530265
little bublgaria
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>>74544651
>More GDP per capita
>Less taxes on income
>Somehow income significantly lower

Calling BS.
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>>74543310
Ilirida when?
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>>74543569
If you think fancy cities are a sign of economic prosperity you should take a look at Tirana.
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>>74545240
Why not?
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>>74546945
You can't read that either.
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>>74530265
MAKEDONIJA E NA MAKEDONCITE
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>>74530265
I knew a turkish girl with macedonian roots
she looked like an angel
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>>74530265
I lost track of you guys after Alexander died, sorry.
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>>74551349
I can actually read some parts of the text
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>>74550503
i dont think many people around me make 2671
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>>74540133
bulgarians do not pretend to be ancient greeks, bulgarians and greeks have been enemies since early medieval times
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What happened to Yugoslavia? Is it still on the map?
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Cool place, like how it makes all of it's neighbours butthurt just by existing.
>>74556592
No, it died, betrayed by everyone it stopped existing in 1991.
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>>74551349
λασkαιδιονου σοφων το στο τελος kαι τον τα μον kαταγραφωkαι τα ναλλαν! ασαν γυων kαι τηραν kαι παροενων μαλιστα δε ο ετιμασ kαι παρkαττιος μα ιμαkρωνιkαν.

wew, i actually understand like 80% of the words. all i need is the meaning of λασkαιδιονου, ναλλαν, γυων and a confirmation that i got the last sentence right, and i will fully know the meaning of it.
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