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NASA: ICE CAPS NOT RECEDING AFTER ALL
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/#5c76241032da

>Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.

>The timing of the 1979 NASA satellite instrument launch could not have been better for global warming alarmists. The late 1970s marked the end of a 30-year cooling trend. As a result, the polar ice caps were quite likely more extensive than they had been since at least the 1920s. Nevertheless, this abnormally extensive 1979 polar ice extent would appear to be the “normal” baseline when comparing post-1979 polar ice extent.

>Updated NASA satellite data show the polar ice caps remained at approximately their 1979 extent until the middle of the last decade. Beginning in 2005, however, polar ice modestly receded for several years. By 2012, polar sea ice had receded by approximately 10 percent from 1979 measurements. (Total polar ice area – factoring in both sea and land ice – had receded by much less than 10 percent, but alarmists focused on the sea ice loss as “proof” of a global warming crisis.)

>A 10-percent decline in polar sea ice is not very remarkable, especially considering the 1979 baseline was abnormally high anyway. Regardless, global warming activists and a compliant news media frequently and vociferously claimed the modest polar ice cap retreat was a sign of impending catastrophe. Al Gore even predicted the Arctic ice cap could completely disappear by 2014.
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>>74438177
Climate change btfo. Trump was right after all. I should've never questioned the god emperor.
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>>74438236

Apologize.
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>>74438261
*kisses ass*
Thank you for Making America Great Again, God Emperor Trump!
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>>74438177
Trump is always right.
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>>74438434

What's that?
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What next? Do vaccines actually cause autism?

If they came up with new research that shows that it actually increases the risk A LITTLE BIT (as in really doesn't matter), but it was being buried because they didn't want people to freak out over it and compromise herd immunity, I wouldn't be that surprised.
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>>74438659

>Do vaccines actually cause autism?

[spoiler]They shouldn't be since thimerosol was banned[/spoiler]

More kids are being diagnosed with autism because of the change in criteria.

Adam Lanza had Aspergers but he became autistic in effect.
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>>74438754

>tl;dr Adam Lanza shot that school up because he was labeled autistic now
>actually had an autistic rampage
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This should be front page for awhile.

www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle

Have a little extra dessert.
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>>74440755

why is rato in that article?
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>>74440755
>www.nationalreview.com
No thanks. They insulted Trump. Will NOT give clicks.
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>>74438177
Well yeah. Made made climate change has always been a hoax.
Its been a farce not based on science, but their computer models that have been consistently wrong.
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>>74438177
Use archive.is faggot, I don't want to desactivate my adblocker for forbes.
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>>74438177
>2015

Anyways, California just dropped its water restrictions, will go in effect June 1rd

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/California-Lets-Local-Water-Districts-Set-Saving-380043671.html
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>>74438177
got a link that doesn't require me to turn off ad blocker?
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>>74440936
>their computer models that have been consistently wrong
more like consistently doctored
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So does this mean we're done hearing about carbon taxes?
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>>74438177
Yeah until new study shows that they were wrong, this shit happens non stop since man started shitting the ecosystem and major powers just say "fuck it pay somebody to prove we are not the bad guys".
So much for claiming on being red pilled.
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>>74438177
This is bullshit anon. Lots of other things have been consistent with AGW theory. You and your denier ilk will be tried when shit hits the fan.
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>>74438177
>Not receding
>Receded 10%

What one is it?
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>>74438177
It's too late, people have already gobbled it up and make up their own bullshit stories about it.

>sitting at the hairdresser
>she talks about how hot it is outside
>clearly this is a sign of global warming
>the catastrophes get worse every year, too!
>goes on like this for like 5 minutes

>get fed up with it, tell her that I'm a chemist working on renewable energy sources and explain to her why most of the stuff she just said is factually wrong (in a nice way)
>she gets upset and says I'm just worried that my "beloved nature-destroying chemical industry" might suffer

Once stupid people have started to believe something it is impossible so change their mind again, no matter what proof you might present to them.
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>>74441076
I don't know if anyone has an archive link, but Forbes doesn't have any malware or anything.
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>>74438177
>>74438236
When will ice caps recede in Canada?
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This is a year old according to the site
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>>74441268
why are you at the hairdresser?

are you a grill?
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>>74441255
they're not receding past normal levels
they were at abnormally high levels when the observation started, now they've receded a bit back nearer to normal
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>>74438177
If you didn't already know AGW was bullshit you're either ignorant or literally retarded.
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>>74441268
It is not too late over here Teutonicbro. Most people here are skeptical. And lots of the people that believe in the catastrophic, existential threat of global warming in europe did it for cultural reasons not intellectual ones. America is still a very powerful force for culture, we just need to push it over the edge with our media.
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The goalposts will shift.

The heat is in the ocean water in the tropics, it will affect the ice caps but only last. We have to act now before it's too late to save ourselves. We can fix everything by giving money to the government to give to 3rd world countries that can't develop, that will stop our 1st world pollution somehow. WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS WE HAVE TO ACT NOW SHITLORDS
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>2015
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>>74441268

> explain to her why most of the stuff she just said is factually wrong (in a nice way)

Tell me more of these things. I'm always much more interested in opinions from people in industry.

Also:

What did they do to your hair?
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>>74438177
IIRC then data was tampered with, ice thickness and area was redrawn so it would match the "no problem" agenda. Honestly, this is too big finacially and politically to belive any data behind it, too much of it has been tampered/biased. (if you cant control truth then flood it with so much BS that nobody knows what is true)
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>>74441459

WE HAVE TO ACT NOW

WE'RE NEARLY PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN

WE'RE NEARLY PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN

APOCALYPSE IS NIGH IF WE DON'T ACT NOW NOW NOW NOW

WE'RE NEARLY PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN

ACT NOW ACT NOW

WE'RE NEARLY PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN
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>>74438177
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
MUH GLOBAL WARMING
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>>74441268
>she gets upset and says I'm just worried that my "beloved nature-destroying chemical industry" might suffer

While at a hairdresser?
ayy lamo
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>>74441268
>she gets upset and says I'm just worried that my "beloved nature-destroying chemical industry" might suffer

While at a hairdresser?
ayy
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>>74441686

lmao your country is on fire you fucking idiot
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>>74438659
Dude it's literally pumping heavy metals into the blood stream of babies, it's bloodletting tier pseudo science
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>>74441729
>Muh AGW
LMAO
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>>74441268
>hairdresser
>flag

I knew you guys were cucked but damn hans
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>>74438177
To think that NASA scientists are climate change deniers. Time to cut funding.
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>>74441245
Trusting pretty much anyone on the issue of AGW is fucking stupid with how politicized the issues are, how much money is wrapped up in all of this all over the world and even the questionable integrity of the data itself.
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>>74441461
DESIGNATED
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>>74441623
Show me what exactly has been tampered with
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>Forbes
>kids's serious website

kill yourself
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>>74442040
SHITTING

SEA
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>>74441859
You know, when making such a graph, many things can go awry.
Why is the 1979-1983 average considered the best base value?
Why is it extrapolated 15 years in advance without the points having any deviation?
Right, where is the deviation anyway?
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>>74442191
>Why is the 1979-1983 average considered the best base value?
those are observed data from 1979-2013 compared to the model predictions. What went wrong in these graphs were the model predictions
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>>74441839
I don't think you understand how vaccines work, or much science at all.
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>>74441317

The Jews have done a number on your brains. Memory of a goldfish, can hold only 1 mb of info at once.

>Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979

You see, it doesn't matter if the ARTICLE is year old, the information in it is pointing at a much wider scale.
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BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES I READ ABOUT ON BUZZFEED
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>>74441729
the last 12,000 years correlate very well with solar irradiance, but approx. the last century does not. Temperature rises while solar insolation is stagnant (or even in decline according to some researchers) in the same time interval, so something else must be driving temperatures up
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>>74442841
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>>74441355
Not even that, they were above normal level, receded a little bit, which still put it above the average, and are now back above the 1979 level which was also above the average.
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>>74438261
>>74438657
Trump in his almighty wisdom forged a pact with the gods, now instead of the polar caps receding his hairline is. For how long will the hero of mankind manage to keep the global warming in check?
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>>74441461
123452 hrs of Google
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