Okay I'm trying to be realistic here. If it was a terrorist hijacking, I REALLY doubt those goatfuckers had the technology to get off of the radar. So, if there was terrorist involvement, it would most likely be a bombing.
Something about that image seems off
>>74427908
>CGI
>>74427980
Really? That cgi is honestly better than Jurassic world
>>74427908
Yeah it is odd an airliner would be flying that close to the ground
>>74426247
ive seen many picels in my life and this pixture is 100% pixel perfect
if I had a dollar for every pixel in that CGI I'd have 10 cents
>>74427908
What are you talking about goy
>>74428079
that shit looks like flight sim
>>74427908
You're right. I see no kangs n sheeeit.
>>74428079
Where the fuck did you see the movie on? Fucking dialup on a Windows 95 in a storm?
>>74426247
They're getting help from the Egyptian government, probably funded by Saudis or Israel. They're going to store the jet somewhere , possibly use it for an unsuspecting terrorist attack at a later time.
Also, what is the significance of 3 French Air Marshals (they were on board) and why would anyone care or find them useful?
>>74426247
Who knows
>>74426247
Or a pilot.
>>74428220
Video games are so realistic these days it's crazy
>>74426247
the aircraft was on active radar and then suddenly wasnt, which means total power failure occurred. total power failure only occurs if the aircraft breaks up or burns out.
as for hiding the cross section of an object that size from radar, no. the best we can hide is an object around 1 meter in width.
the sand niggers would need to have magically found the ability to project massive, stable plasma windows.
>>74426247
All they have to do is fly low, which is what a terrible pilot would do anyway. It is also what a pilot crashing into a building would do.
>>74428323
On TV
>>74426247
no distress call
it broke up immediately
>>74427908
The goyim know
It either landed, crashed, or got shot down.
So come up with a happening like it got shot down by the jews in Israel or something.
>>74428391
All that detail, senpai
>>74428391
>>74428444
>>74428431
Someone on CNN said that it "faded" off of radar. I have no idea what that means. Would it "fade" away with a rapid descent? Wouldn't there be a brief debris cloud if it exploded? Or am I just comparing weather radar to aircraft radar. Seems like an explosion would leave some sort of signature, but I am completely just speculating.
>>74428653
Looks good to me you can even see the pilot in the window
>>74427908
It's confirmed 100% legit
>>74426247
There is literally no off radar overriide. Even if there was individual parts like engines or landing gear ping status to the aircraft manufacturer.
>>74428829
depends on what they meant by faded. based on where it was, i give it low odds of being visible on passive radar. "fading" from passive radar would require the aircraft to have dispersed into MANY small pieces. i find this unlikely.
if it was on active radar, (position tracked by keeping tabs on signals coming from the aircraft) fading would likely refer to progressive loss of those signals. a fire could cause progressive signal failure, but an explosion would cause instant total failure of all signals as the aircraft broke up
>>74426247
Far more reaching then simple idle hands
The strings pulled reveal the falsity
Seek hidden under distraction
You will witness
Men will change
The distraction is your god
>>74429134
most active radar systems can be deactivated, but not all of them, and certainly not by the flight crew while underway. however, assuming you're in range of a passive radar, you cant hide from that without stealth tech
>>74428829
you're putting too much power and autism on a talking head a billion miles away who just parrots what his producer feeds into his ear, who in turn agonized with two other producers on what dictionary words they want to release on air for consumers to assign (random) meaning to
>>74429623
this
>>74426247
>>74428324
>>74428431
>>74428438
>>74428444
>>74428583
>>74428829
>>74429134
>>74429389
>>74429513
>>74429576
>>74429623
What if.... and stay with me here.
What if it was Ayy lmaos?
The end
>>74429861
Don't worry
>>74429861
sure, why not. it holds as much water as any other hypothesis right now
>>74429623
You're calling me an autist? That's rich.
>>74430129
It's fine, we're all analysts here
>>74429880
Does Men Will Change refer to genetic engineering?
>>74430304
now, now. that would be telling.
>>74429880
You say men will change every time, what does it mean?
>>74428583
I would say it just fell out of the sky, typical airbus scenario.
It's clearly not a hijacking. Planes don't suddenly vanish at 37,000 feet unless there is a catastrophic breakup of the plane.
Given that it was going from Paris to Egypt, it's almost assuredly a bomb. It doesn't even take a very large blast to cause explosive decompression and destroy the plane.
Since it wasn't far from land, radar may have caught a signature of the debris cloud as it fell. It will be a little while before any information like that gets released though.
>>74429861
Then I hope at least one human managed to call them space niggers before death
>>74430843
>explosive decompression
>5 psi
planes only pressurize to an interior pressure altitude of about 8 thousand feet. the exception being the new 787 which is capable of pressurizing to an equivalent of 6 thousand
that's not quite how it works. if the skin breaches, its the resulting drag that rips the plane apart. assuming there's enough surface area in the breach of course
>>74430843
If they managed to get a bomb on board a plane at Charles De Gaulle airport, that means we are leaving the EU.
>>74426247
There are two kinds of radar, primary and secondary.
Primary radar is the kind of radar that classically comes to mind. Physical radio waves are sent from an antenna, bounce off of an object, then return to the antenna. Secondary radar utilizes an electronic component in the airplane to directly send information in the form of a radio wave directly to a ground based antenna.
Primary radar is wildly inaccurate, sometimes by the span of several miles. It can't depict an altitude of an object, its size, and can return from a flock of birds or even trucks on a freeway. It's part of the reason airplanes can't go within 3-5 lateral miles of each other in the NAS.
Secondary radar is what actually does all of the work. The transponder in the airplane is able to transmit highly accurate information about the plane's location, altitude, speed, plane type, identification and otherwise.
"Disappearing from radar" is literally as simple as turning the transponder off. It's simple. Transponders are literally one of the first things you learn about in ground school.
t. Air Traffic Controller/Pilot
>>74431583
>open WAC site during a summer evening
>go to radar overview
>look at the deep south
>OH GOD THE BUGS
seriously, the amount of insect returns on weather radar in the south is rediculous
There was a huge fireball seen in the sky, it blew up!
>>74426247
it wasn't a hijacking, one of the pilots just did sucide-by-airliner exactly like egyptair 990 did
>>74432097
didnt know mermaids were filing NTSB reports now
>>74426247
>technology to get off of the radar.
what is flying low?
they did it on 9/11
804
804
>>74432201
wrong type of radar
>>74429389
Fading from radar is basically a legal term.
Air traffic controllers are required to track IFR airplanes (Instrument Flight Rules, which every commercial airplane is required to fly) on radar, and at some point ATCs are required to acknowledge to the pilots that they have spotted them on radar after a handoff from the previous ATC (see: radar contact).
"Fading from radar" basically means "I saw him on radar, then I didn't". It doesn't mean the signal slowly degraded over time, that's not how radar works, either primary or secondary radar, it means "the signal was there at one point, then at some point it wasn't". Whether it was primary or secondary radar is somewhat questionable, but I'm willing to bet with 95% certainty that it meant secondary radar because IFR rules state that airplanes MUST use transponders (secondary radar), and they're what do all of the radar work.
>>74432201
also, flying low doesnt really help over the water. there's no terrain to hide behind. so even if there was passive radar that far out, it wouldnt help to fly low
>>74432201
They would have tracked the descent tho. Only way to disappear frpm radars like this is to break up in smaller bit
>>74432201
>flying low
you mean landing? Fucking retard
>>74432400
>Only way to disappear frpm radars like this is to break up in smaller bit
No because the smaller bits would get picked up by radar.
The only way to fall off like this is to fall quickly.
>>74432152
Captain of a Greek Merchant ship.
>>74432307
you dont have to file IFR unless you enter the alpha airspace. hell, half the time the plan i file is just a copy paste of the previous flight with the dates/times changed.
Distractions among us
Seek behind the shadow
Men will change
Distractions among us
Seek behind the shadow
Men will change
>>74432514
>>74432517
What did he mean by this?
>>74432496
unless he paid debts, fuck his report.
>>74432511
Wrong. Commercial airliners are required to file IFR, period.
Alpha airspace is IFR only.
If you're not a commercial carrier flight you don't even have to file a flight plan unless you plan on entering class bravo airspace.
Thanks for playing.
>>74432514
>>74432517
>haha guys, look at me, i can post from my phone and pc at the same time!
>people will actually take this as some sort of insider shill instead of some stupid faggot memeing
Catastrophic failure.
If there was no radio contact, something would have incapacitated the pilots.
I think it was a bomb from some luggage lad
>>74432514
>>74432517
your shit thread got deleted hours ago
kill yourself and fuck off you pile of garbage
>>74432568
It's a dumb autist roleplaying
SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW:
>flight MS804
>disappeared 804 days after the MH370's disappearance
>no contact after disappearing at 37000 feet (370x100)
>was flying from Paris to Cairo in Egypt, the homeland of the ancient Egyptian God of Chaos Kek
>to Cairo International Airport (CIA) to be precise
>relatively low amount of passengers
What else?
>>74431583
>Secondary radar
That isn't radar, just a radio signal. I can pick them up at home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
skynews live
>>74432749
Greeks reported a fireball In the sky and now are investigating
this is info from real pilots:
This is best site for aviation disasters. But unless you really know your shit--i.e., unless you are a pilot-- don't post bc it's tun by a really prissy brit air France pilot:
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/579183-egyptair-804-disappears-radar-paris-cairo-2.html
>>74426247
>tfw im taking a flight from paris to lebanon in a month
should i be worried /pol/?
>>74432591
must be an airline thing then. dont have to do it in my little prop twin. also helps that i'm not moving people
>>74432514
>>74432517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwmCmI1zMM
>>74432869
Yes, don't fly to the middle east, dumbass.
>>74432869
>to Lebanon
Explain
The Japanese did it.
I'm pretty sure they were abducted by aliens. It's the only reasonable explanation.
>>74432869
Statistically, no
>>74432869
take a flight this week.
they may be planning another hijacking in a month.
sure as hell don't believe they'll do a hijacking every day or even in a week, but a month gives them ample time to attack again.
Also,
>flying TO mid-east
seriously, death wish or something?
>>74432517
thanks skynet.
>>74432749
>>74431583
How is the next gen air traffic system coming along?
>>74432990
I did see some strange red lights in the sky that formed a triangle. Probably aliens.
>>74432869
i worry for the passengers having to fly with someone who views /pol/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/egyptair-flight-ms804-from-paris-to-cairo-missing-1463629989?cb=logged0.5237399270314209
Greek ships have seen "explosion that lit up the sky"
Hopefully it landed on some refugee boats
ba dum tss.
Dammit. Why now? I gotta go to bed soon.
>>74432869
Why even bother going to shitskin-infested shitholes?
>>74432458
Radars have a detectio threshold so they dont pick up object snaller than a certain size. Otherwhisd theyd pick up every fucking bird and stuff
>>74432922
>>74433029
>>74433091
I am Lebanese American and a Lebanese citizen, and I routinely visit, but the new commupances in the Levant are spooking me.
>>74432749
> What else?
You have autism?
>>74427908
it's realer than real life
how mad would you be if they flew into an ancient greek temple, or the roman Colosseum?
>>74426247
Kebabs can into stealth now
>>74432869
you're in luck, your chances of survival just increased thanks to egyptair
>>74433125
Of course. But a breakup or an explosion, neither would explode to smithereens. Both would have at least some piece detectable.
>>74432959
>>74426247
>>74432880
Correct. It's in the CFR that commercial airliners are required to fly IFR no matter what. That doesn't mean they still can't request visual landings but they are 100% instrument from clearance to the arrival gate.
Private pilots don't even have to file flight plans, which is essentially what I was trying to say in my last post even though it came out kind of confusing. It's a good idea, not only for your own good so you know your amount own fuel and weight and balance information, but it's good for ATCs and S&R in the event that you don't show up to your destination after an hour of your filed arrival time.
how likely is this the work of terrorists?
kind of hoping it is just to see increase in trump votes
>>74432668
if you were going to bomb a plane though why would you bomb
1) a half full redeye flight on a small jet rather than a full 747 or a380
2) set off the bomb over the med rather than as soon as the plane took off from paris, potentially killing more people on the ground
>>74433280
Well the plane was filled with shitskins and a Saudi so it's 80%
>>74433280
Our next best guess is ayylmaos based on what we know, so pretty likely somebody wanted the plane gone.
>>74433125
depends on the radar. weather radar for instance, picks up swarms of insects quite clearly.
It just crashed in the water
what's the problem, i don't get it
why does it need so much coverage
>>74433280
Very
>>74433284
To make people not feel safe when they board planes
Also 66 people is still a lot for one bomb.
>>74433284
Muslims don't think rationally
Meanwhile, in other news that conveniently nobody is paying attention to... Trump called Clinton a rapist. Now, tomorrow everyone will be talking about this or Hillary's Ghostbitches.
DERKA DERKA or ayyyyy lmao? Maybe DERKayyyyyy lmaos?
>>74433061
Slowly.
As far as I know, the technology exists, but air traffic controlling has got to be the most bureaucratic part of the federal government and people are paranoid as fuck to change rules.
Switching over to next gen is going to take decades. The technology has to be empirical, first as a whole, next for each specific location it's to be used. First both services will have to be offered, then after an established credibility of success it may become mandatory after X number of years.
>>74433346
We get to hear about this and all the theories until the parts wash ashore. Good thing this shit was in the Mediterranean and not a bigger body of water
im pretty sure the UK Cyprus radio station will have tracked the flight all the way to the water, how fast they want to release the information and show what capibility they have
>>74433558
Oh shit I understand it now
CIA downed the plane to make media talk about it and so the real thing will go through without anyone paying attention
>>74433677
tell me about it.
>still using heading indicators with constant drift when HSI exists
>>74433677
I figured it would take forever to actually implement.
Distress call!
seems there WAS in fact a distress call made. no other details
>>74433284
because it was hijacked with the intention of using it as a AVBIED and got shot down over unpopulated area in response
anyone get a hardon from this?
After that plane went missing in the indian ocean a couple years ago, I thought all planes were upgraded to have radar and black box systems that couldnt fail or be disabled. Am I wrong in that?
How does a plane just fall off the radar nowadays? wtf
>>74433635
AYYLAHU AKBAR!
>>74430686
>just fell out of the sky, typical airbus scenario.
I think you're thinking of 737s.
>>74426247
Here's what happened:
>Plane: Allah Akbar
>Nato: no
>Nato: plane is kill
>>74433908
No you should get psychiatric treatment
>>74433945
nah, changes like that are slow to be made. any time you change anything on an airplane design, you have to cut through 500 metric fuck tons of red tape.
>>74428444
distress signal seen at 4.40am
>>74433967
lol wut. nigga do you know how many of those fuckers are airborne right this second?
i'll put it into perspective for you. every single second, one 737 takes off, and another lands
>>74434028
I'm wet just thinking about trump's poll numbers rising
>>74433908
Is Canada still on fire?
>2016
>not realizing more planes will get taken
>not realizing this plane is stored with the Malaysian one somewhere
>not realizing some ayy lmaos kidnapped them to study our primitive flying tech
>>74434182
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-1.3587320
still growing, fire is boring though
>>74433945
Airliners are pretty much always designed with state of the art "black boxes", but even then they are limited by the amount of effort it takes to make them recoverable.
You could make a black box that transmits a location signal for 100 years to satellites even at the bottom of the ocean after suffering a 500 KT crash and sustaining a 48 hour fire, but such equipment would probably weigh a literal ton which is unnecessary amount of weight to be required on every airliner on the planet.
>>74426247
egyptair just confirmed that a "distress call" was made, and the plane crashed
>>74434518
shiiiiiiet
Please everyone, don't make amalgams, islam is a religion of peace, my sister has a muslim husband and he is a really lovely person, also we have no proof that this is a terrorist attack so keep your hate speech for yourself, please
>>74434703
2/10
>>74434703
you tried faggot.
>>74428829
>Philadelphia_experiment.jpg
>>74426247
Shitty b8 there, m8.
>>74428203
We should've never let the goyim get access to 1080p monitors, let alone 4k... what the hell was goldstein thinking?
>>74434207
maybe there's a tribe of plane gnomes that are kidnapping our planes and hiding them in tibet or some shit
>>74432789
Semantics. For the federal government and ATCs it's labeled as "secondary radar".
To prove my point, the official report referred to it as "disappearing from radar".
No legitimate official expert would label primary radar as "radar" unless they explicitly stated that they were referring to primary radar.
Even then it depends on what type of transponder is equipped on the aircraft. Mode C is the minimum requirement for IFR flying because it can report altitude, but Mode S allows for 'all of the above' plus specific location information (from other position reporting equipment on the aircraft)
>>74427908
How can that image be real if our eyes aren't real?
#staywoke
>>74426247
france to egypt. who cares? if it crashes we win either way.
>>74434207
one day there'll be an explanation for that malaysian flight
maybe in 5 years when global warming has evaporated 90% of the seas
>>74437989
4chan users that you have posted with could have been killed in any of these terrorist attacks and you will never, ever know
>>74428444
I know it's your job
And you are ayyy lmau
>>74434171
you'r gonna need a more competent psychiatrist.
>>74434703
thanks
>It's a foreign country loses another plane
Like how do you fucking lose a plane
>>74438454
i hope so.
