you sorta just scroll through and like. the only discourse is someone will say something with a right wing message and someone will respond by making a right wing joke
i mean thats to be expected i guess? im kinda just curious to see if theres one person whos far too hopeful about their ability to change opinions
depending on who you ask everybody here is either secretly left-wing posting satire or right-wing posting bait
fair nuff. im used to being surrounded by feminists on tumblr so this whole thing is kinda a shock
I'm in the middle, laughing at the mad bantz on both sides. Couldn't give a flying fuck who's running the countries of the world. It's all fucked either way, niggas.
>>74406049
what a terrible thread
>>74406049
pic related (limmy) voted SNP and Green
>>74406049
No, they go to /leftypol/
>>74406049
define left-wing. anyone with his sanity intact does not belong to the church of diversity, cuckdom and western destruction
>>74406049
>left wing people
we prefer to be called "leftists" "libruls" or simply "faggots"
please do not use the term "left wing" as it is demeaning and insulting.
thank you.
>>74406672
I'm left wing libertarian.
I come here for bantz and because a lot of the lefties I know lose their shit if you go against the narrative.
>>74407595
senpai theres no such thing as a non lefty scotsman
>>74408339
what the fuck f a m got replaced with senpai jfc what is this place
>>74407763
left as in like pro lgbt, against neoliberalism, feminist, etc
>>74407913
i cant tell whats sarcasm in this place
>>74407646
> tumblr
>>74408539
if you are a feminist you belong to said church. if you are enabling mentally-ill people you belong into the gulag. I dont know enough of neoliberalism.
>>74407501
thanks you too bb
>>74406049
National Socialism is left wing bro.
>>74408766
neoliberalism as in like, minimal government interference in the economy so low tax low spending etc
do you think non straight people are mentally ill or just trans people
You tell me. Half of this board is worship of a gay jew and there are occasional threads in support of a fat quadroon literal cuck.
>>74408858
i suppose, though those that advocate for nazi like policies are usually in it for the social parts not the socialIST parts
>>74408997
i dont know who either of those could be im actually p curious
>>74408982
>do you think non straight people are mentally ill or just trans people
legit trans people are <<1% of the population and it's a mental illness. they need help and and not enabling from retards.
>neoliberalism as in like, minimal government interference in the economy so low tax low spending etc
doesnt sound like left at all. aren't they for authoritarian nanny states?
I feel like midday (burgerland) /pol/ is filled to the brim with Democrat shills. Or at least it is the few days a week I'm on in the middle of the day
I just assume everyone is ironically conservative and racist. I know there are also idiots who take this troll board seriously.
>>74406049
They use it to shill half-assed posts, but they don't care to stick around to read other people's opinions.
Everyone here started off as liberals part of the John Stewart audience from the bush years. I bet most of everyone here supported Obama too.. AT FIRST
We started off run of the mill liberals but something happened around 2010 or so that pushed many of us away. That's the definitive year 4chan started swinging "right"
I would classify myself as left wing in the situation where our countries aren't getting overrun by shitskin immigrants.
I'm all for extending the olive branch of socialism to my fellow white man. But I've seen to many natives and muslims take advantage of the system for me to have any faith in it anymore.
>do left wing people actually use the board ever?
to shill for shillary
that's the good thing about /pol/ - if someone disagrees with us, we know they're a shill
>>74408982
Neoliberalism is to the left of laissez faire capitalism though.
>>74406049
why would the left wing post here? are you under the impression that socialism and anti-racism are politically incorrect?
>>74409894
>I would classify myself as left wing in the situation where our countries aren't getting overrun by shitskin immigrants.
You describe National Socialism, calling yourself left wing sounds like a political association disorder.
>>7440791
Tfw you own the same pair of cuck glasses
>>74409980
>>74406049
there's Bern victims too
>>74406049
We have a bit of everything. You don't have to agree with /pol/ to enjoy because the bantz are hilarious. But overtime most lefties who come here start to agree with /pol/ more and more simply because of time spent here and the evidence for most of what /pol/ believes gets more and more clear. /pol/ ironically is probably one of the most diverse boards, but a general consensus is usually met
>>74406049
i do
ironically, /pol/ made me left wing
>>74406049
Moderate left here. I come here for the bantz and because this counters the harcore leftie shill propaganda.
Would still vote for Trump, tho.
>>74410179
i honestly don't think berntards even know how to shill - they're too sincere
just stay and hang out for a week or two. There's a lot of shitposting and retards here but plenty of legitimate stuff too. Just remember to check sources. Seeing some differing viewpoints never hurt anybody.
Lefties need an enclosed environment to circlejerk with each other. Like; Reddit, revleft, tumblr, etc. Whenever you see lefties out in the open trying to argue with people who hold even slightly different opinions than them, they cant win without resorting to bullying and censorship tactics. Bust mostly namecalling. Words like fascist, nazi, racist, misogynist have run their course and no longer bother most people. Why do you think the word 'cuck' is so effective at shutting down liberals? Because it's a perfect encapsulation of everything wrong with them and it brings their own imperfections and self hatred to light, which forces the liberal to either reconcile or do mental gymnastics trying to explain it away. And the beauty is they cant. Which exposes the biggest weakness of the lefties. They are emotionally fragile and to them words can kill, that's also why they brand anything they dont like as 'hatespeech.'
Left wing as fuck. I come here because I hate niggers and women.
>>74410809
You're a fucking lieberal cuck shill regressive faggot.
but steel's heavier than feathers
>>74408539
And really shouldn't be. There's the reason why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ-Upb4Szms
>>74406049
I used to be a leftist. Then I found /pol/ and got brainwashed by 'truth' and 'factual evidence'
>>74408707
Actually I meant the 4+4chan board but ya that too
>>74411263
>'truth' and 'factual evidence'
boooooooooooooooooo
>>74406049
You're 5 years too late
/pol/ started ironically shitposting as nazis, then real nazis thought they were in good company and moved in.
>>74410264
It's not as ironic as you think. If you browse /pol/, there are three things that can feasibly happen:
1) You become a radical right-winger.
2) You become a radical leftist.
3) You leave and never come back.
Do you think ANYBODY has ever browsed /pol/ and become a fucking moderate centrist? Fuck off, lmao.
>>74411181
Nigger, /pol/ has:
>Diverse nationalities
>Diverse ages
>Diverse genders
>Diverse ideologies
>Diverse religious views.
And we're here to stay, faggot. Been here for 8 years now.
Genuine lefty here
I guess I'm here to troll just by being here as the majority here get triggered by a left of centre opinion
>>74411360
>ironically
topdop
>>74406049
I'm on here everyday I just like to see what makes the right mad on a day to day basis
>>74410264
an algerian who likes stealing from others? wow, that's surprising
/pol/ has reaffirmed my belief that the vast majority of people are ignorant fools in desperate need of a shepherd to guide them. On both sides. The amount of discourse on this board is laughable
>mfw left wingers think the people on this board are just trolls
FFS you haven't met these people irl, we're serious. Hitler did nothing wrong.
>>74411482
/pol/ pulled me up from ancap/minarchism to some sort Jeffersonian dude. I'd imagine the folks who come in repub/dem just hit eject or head to natsoc fast.
>>74406672
Get out.
>>74408396
>being a newfag
>>>/reddit/
>>74411570
hey goy, I'm sure next time we try jewish socialism, it'll be kittens and rainbows, the other 20 times it's been tried they just didn't believe hard enough. hope you get to be an intellectual sitting on their arse this time bro, sucks to be a soldier/worker/farmer right bruv? heh, those peasants are so stupid, can't they see how much better things would be if us unbiased saintly intellectuals took all their money and spent it properly?
>>74411482
i'm a retarded moderate, thanks
>>74412031
Hitler did alot wrong bro
>herp uh derpa derp lets attack all the countries on earth at the same time what could go le wrong
>>74406049
Left-wing posts are deleted and the posters are banned. We don't allow that shit around here.
>>74412351
better than letting all niggers on earth into your country¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>74406256
You forgot the JIDF and hillary shills
I'm lefty. I just come here for the bantz and to be informed on the shit that the mainstream news doesn't report.
>>74407646
Even those guys are still against the rapefugees.
>>74412201
good taste, if that's yours.
>>74406049
I'd still kill you, you pinko faggot.
GTFO of /pol.
You have facebook and reddit and twitter you do not belong here.
I voted for Obama in 2012. although I was raised by liberal ass parents and anything even remotely right wing appeared retarded in my eyes. went to uni and dropped out after a year. trade school and have some right wing friends that have red pilled me over the last few years. Would rather vote Trump than Hillary atm.
>>74407913
Why do they all look the same holy shit?
Fucking suricates
>>74412885
are you an anti-White who supports White GeNOcide?
>>74406049
I'm probably the kind of liberal /pol/ hates - it's fun to see what the other side is doing, but I almost never engage anyone.
Why argue with a board of people who's already made up their minds?
>>74414799
so you are afraid of debating?
>>74414799
to test if you are right
are you an anti-White?
>>74406049
Nader 2004
Nader 2008
Jill Stein 2012
the answer is yes. now tell the world of this bullshit in the link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/18/morning_joe_panel_clintons_connection_to_billionaire_pedophile_jeffrey_epstein_will_blow_up_campaign.html
>>74408858
>>74409176
it's true. but the nazi party were not socialists. it ceases to have a collective aspect if minorities are targetted and u.s. corporations are a vital aid in your war effort. just because it's in the name doesn't mean it's true. koala bears are not actual bears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gNXfrMR_Lw
>>74406049
I'm strongly liberal. I don't generally engage people on /pol/ except to make snide and sarcastic remarks.
It's an anonymous circle-jerk--there's nothing to win. What, I'm gonna go into a race realist thread and debunk every bullshit piece of propaganda? Would take hours, anyone who lost the argument would simply switch to another copy of the same thread, or would get a thousand "lel kek cuck" replies.
Kinda a waste of time and effort. Anonymity is the reason /pol/ is right wing; it keeps you from ever have to fess up to being so consistently wrong about everything.
Face it, OP: this is just a containment board. I'm sure plenty of other liberals come here, but the only point in doing so is to shitpost and insult you folks.
>>74406049
The left wingers just "troll" because they're sick of getting BTFO by rational arguments. Calling someone a racist doesn't work here so they don't really have a platform.
>>74414935
What does anti-white entail in your eyes?
>>74409310
You can git oaut!
>>74414897
Nah, I just don't think it's worth it. Like I said, I wouldn't convince anyone here no matter how well I spoke, and vice-versa.
I'm leftwing economically but right wing socially.
>inb4 NatSoc
No NatSoc is retarded.
>>74415369
>rational arguments
>>74415336
Well said. Better reply to >>74414897
than mine
>>74415631
>>74406049
but their both a kilogram
The left have the majority of the Internet to cuck post so who fucken cares.
>>74415739
Excuse me, do you support me being shot? ONE FUCKING DOLLAR
>>74415336
>and debunk every bullshit piece of propaganda?
by not debunking you are tacitly agreeing
tell me, are there any White countries predicted to still be majority White in 100 years? any of them not being forced to accept millions of 3rd worlders?
>>74415451
supporting policies designed to disenfranchise Whites, such as racial quotas, and to turn White countries into mixed countries, whilst allowing African and Asian countries to still be for their own people
>>74415783
I don't get it
>>74406256
Nice may may
>>74406049
They become right wing when confronted by the truth
>>74415893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0hikcwjIA
>>74406049
You are left wing now. In 3 weeks you will be agreeing with Hitler
>>74415893
>by not debunking you are tacitly agreeing
That's utterly ridiculous. There are seven and a half billion people on the world. No: you do not agree with them every time they something you don't argue about with them, over an internet message board.
I mean I get that you're a conservative, but that doesn't inherently make you a buffoon, does it?
>>74415336
back to facebook you cuck
>>74415893
whites are not done yet and dark clouds are building up over Europe and the USA. you can already hear the first thunder in the distance.
>>74415988
one of the quotes is "I don't get it"
thanks anyway though
>>74409888
Trips of truth. This is so right.
>>74416106
>I get that you're a conservative
I have not vouchsafed to you my political viewpoint, yet you feel free to assume
so why do you come, if not to argue? you'd better not be stealing our rare pepes, that's a federal crime!
>>74416136
yes, the fire rises and dottir approaches
>>74411482
>>Do you think ANYBODY has ever browsed /pol/ and become a fucking moderate centrist?
Hi.
/pol/ has shown me that both sides are retarded because they only see solutions in absolute extremes.
The real world has tons of grey area that is being completely ignored constantly.
>tfw I'm regularly called a lefty in one thread while I'm called a fascist in another
i remember when i first came to /pol/ and thought that it was all edgy satire.
>surely no one can actually believe the holocaust didnt happen and be racist to literally every group besides a small percentage of the white population
how wrong i was. sig heil!
Lots of us were actually leftist who got redpilled
>>74406049
I was left wing when I started coming here (even gave a small amount of money to Bernie, wayyyyy back in the beginning of his campaign). Now I think Hitler dindu nuffin. Meme magic is real you guys.
>>74416298
are you blind or just a defeatist? shit is going down at an ever fasting speed.
I'm left wing, but I consider myself a "social libertarian" and generally support of a freer market. I'm pretty much a conservative that believes in welfare and small economic measures to prevent anti-competitive behaviour.
I don't make threads though, and don't really antagonise people with my views on here. I love alt-right shitposting for shits and gigs.
>>74416298
>yet you feel free to assume
I do. I'm also right.
>but I'm hiding behind my anonymity!
Which is why you aren't worth engaging in a debate on political topics.
>so why do you come, if not to argue?
I get bored, and you're pretty easy targets.
Left leaning moderate here.
Mostly come here for the interesting news since I've been coming to 4chan since I was a kid.
Though I will say the Trump delusion and cognitive dissonance is hilarious and almost as bad as Bernie supporters.
Legit Clinton supporter here, believe in more open borders, women's right, agree with her on foreign policy and would love to have Bill in charge of the economy. Mostly lurk to see what the other side thinks.
>>74413494
what does pinko faggot even mean
>>74416398
/pol/ is a shill trap it was designed this way almost completely on accident
>>74411482
Most people were lolbertardians before /pol/, at least pre-2009. I'd expect most of them are closer to center now.
>>74416529
Except were actually winning so you can't call it delusion
>>74406049
Sure, they just pretend (rather ineptly) to be neo-nazis.
>>74416795
>>74406049
I am social democrat.
I mean come on, what did you expect, I am russian
>>74409579
>/pol/ is satire meme
>>74416357
heh, 2/10
>>74416450
>are you blind or just a defeatist? shit is going down at an ever fasting speed.
what? I agree that we're not done
>>74416491
open borders or not?
>>74416497
>I'm also right.
no, I'm a lolbertardian with natsoc leanings
>Which is why you aren't worth engaging in a debate on political topics.
anonymous views are the most important views as they must stand on their own
>I get bored, and you're pretty easy targets.
what do you make of all the crime stats released by the US DOJ? are the facts racist?
>>74416529
>Though I will say the Trump delusion and cognitive dissonance is hilarious and almost as bad as Bernie supporters.
yeah, hillray is the best candidate, amirite?
>>74417014
>heh, 2/10
What?
What was even remotely unbelievable about my post?
>>74415893
I think the idea of "turning White countries into mixed countries" as a secret underlying motive for all diversity-based legislation is a little too alarmist to be a rational argument.
And I'd argue that no one is "allowing African and Asian countries to still be for their own people" - they're denying foreign immigrants.
Either way, (and this is what's made /pol/ truly vilify me), I don't get what happens when white people start to not be a majority in European countries. They look different, how terrible!
When I bring this up, I'm bombarded with links that say how blacks and arabs have lower IQs, are more violent, can't build decent societies, etc. But I simply don't agree with those ideas and how paint varied populations of people with the same brush, and that's where /pol/ and I differ.
>>74417100
*THEY paint, my bad
>>74409888
Are you me
>>74417014
>no, I'm a lolbertardian with natsoc leanings
Your identity politics are boring. Call yourself whatever you please.
>anonymous views are the most important views as they must stand on their own
And if they can't, you can always close that tab and try again five minutes later, in a different thread with a new flag. So I'm not interested in wasting time debunking dumb bullshit on an image board.
>what do you make of all the crime stats released by the US DOJ? are the facts racist?
Plenty, but still not interested in engaging you, on the topic.
>>74416497
>I get bored, and you're pretty easy targets.
Wow you are sure teaching us here.
>>74417338
>my coming here is about helping you better yourself
It's not. Pretty clearly stated that alleviating boredom through shitposting and mocking you people was my goal. You think by saying you don't feel mocked that, what? I won't enjoy it? I will.
>>74417014
>Brazil has no whites meme
Well that is fucking racist
>>74417100
>I think the idea of "turning White countries into mixed countries" as a secret underlying motive for all diversity-based legislation is a little too alarmist to be a rational argument.
did the US immigration and naturalization act of 1965 just pass itself? what about the change of the Whites only immigration policy in Australia, also in 1965?
are Whites predicted to become a minority in the US?
>I don't get what happens when white people start to not be a majority in European countries. They look different, how terrible!
they don't look different, they cease to exist
don't you support the right of every people to maintain their homeland for their people?
> I'm bombarded with links that say how blacks and arabs have lower IQs, are more violent, can't build decent societies, etc. But I simply don't agree with those ideas and how paint varied populations of people with the same brush, and that's where /pol/ and I differ.
even if they aren't, we deserve the right to exist, to advocate or support policies which discriminate against us in our own countries, whilst importing masses of shitskins and pushing intermarriage, is genocide
>>74417244
>I'm not interested in wasting time debunking dumb bullshit on an image board.
>Plenty, but still not interested in engaging you, on the topic.
haha, you know we're right
>>74417551
racist and correct, or racist and incorrect?
>>74417446
Right, but how can you mock people if you fail to create a single coherent argument? It's more likely you come here and just get BTFO, wait a few weeks until your brave enough, rinse repeat.
>>74417620
From the picture, I wouldn't call it genocide if white people moved to Uganda and started having kids. I try not to be a hypocrite.
I honestly think, that in a period where transportation and communication let people go wherever they wish and speak to whoever they want to, people have gravitated towards higher income nations, most of which are white. White nations let them in, other first-world countries didn't. So they had kids, and the proportion of races changed. I don't see the problem if white people are reduced or start to disappear entirely in historically white countries. Hybridization of cultures has happened time and time again.
I define genocide as actively killing a shit ton of living people. Literally having MORE children, though interracial relationships, is the opposite of genocide in my eyes.
>>74417961
pretty much
leftism is mostly cognitive dissonance and double standards
tolerate everyone, except racists
excuse black crimes, highlight White ones
attack Whites over slavery, when Jews dominated the slave trade, and forget that teh word slave comes from slav, because so many Eastern Euros were enslaved, mostly by the fucking mudslimes, who are the least liberal people on the planet, yet loved and excused by the liberals
celebrate diversity yet promote the destruction of diversity through mixing
>>74418580
>I define genocide as actively killing a shit ton of living people
aah, so you disagree with the UNs definition then?
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
>>74418580
Article 3
The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.
>(e) Complicity in genocide.
I wonder what that means
>>74406049
i'm a progressive populist. now liberals call themselves progressives and thats fucking WRONG. refer to the original Progressive Era. I''m not here to change opinions I don't have that kind of time. I'm here to learn meme magic.
>>74406256
I was without a political opinion before i came here ,I arrived shortly after Romney's defeat and i stayed because most folks are funny but i can never tell who's trolling who
>>74419579
>I'm here to learn meme magic.
firstly you have to know what's true
>>74419297
It means what it needs to in order to meet the narrative.
>>74406049
I'm a leftist who has been here a long time. It started as satire but the alt-right has gotten so extreme that there is nothing to satirize any more.
>>74406049
I'm pretty left but alt-left I guess. Not even remotely a sjw, but I fucking loathe the incessant stupidity of the right. Race is literally the one and only issue they ever get even partly right. Literally every single other thing they're wrong about.
>>74408258
Libertarians aren't left wing. You're just right wing with no morals.
>>74420510
what a non answer
>>74420622
>Literally every single other thing they're wrong about.
oh yeah? go on, list a few
and wht do the leftists say about race? that it doesn't exist? that all races are the same in temperament, criminality and intelligence? grade I morons
>>74406049
>who are the Russians
>who are the Swedes
Jesus Christ, it's like you don't even know what the fuck left wing means.
>>74406049
Yes, /leftypol/ often come over to shill their cringeworthy OC.
>>74408539
That's not left wing. Left/right implies economics. You're thinking of Liberalism.
>>74406672
It's all right-wing infighting and everyone gets slowly more redpilled. Liberals usually get BTFO and leave. Trust me there's so much infighting that we don't need any liberals.
>>74421363
that's got to be a troll, fucking hell
they can't be that delusional, can they?
>>74406049
left wing - green party member.
Hate political correctness.
Love this board
>>74406049
hi
This whole board is propaganda. The admins delete anything that makes sense.
>>74421363
>all shall know communism as the true guiding light
what fucking morons
>>74409310
Milo the hedonist faggot is the gay jew. I'm not sure who the fat quadroon cuck is.
>>74412031
That's just JIDF shills who claim that.
>>74409888
Nope. I've always been a liberal, never supported that good goy nigger Obama or any other presidential whore candidate. And /pol/ isn't smart enough to convince me that letting corporations ruin everything and forcing people to convert to christianity by the sword is really the best thing to do. You have to be a retarded child for /pol/ to change you views, but then this is 4chan. Well I mean it's facebook now. Pic related. Most of /pol/ never gets past the dumb libertarian stage.
>>74410809
>Lefties need an enclosed environment to circlejerk with each other.
So do righties, you limp pussy. Horseshoe theory is in full bloom on /pol/.
>>74420908
Economics, the environment, religion, social policies of every kind, foreign policy and diplomacy, god damn, what AREN'T conservashits desperately wrong about? I mean race is LITERALLY the only thing they get even remotely right. Yet still most of them are worshipful cucks to kikes, so they even fuck that shit up. Conservatives are just retarded bastards who should never their stupid mouths so at least they can pretend to not be retarded instead of broadcasting to everyone that they are.
>>74421363
That's probably because cancerchan is never operational.
>Didn't even say "Gorilla tactics"
Execute these men!
>>74420908
Oh I guess I forgot to answer the rest of your post.
>and wht do the leftists say about race? that it doesn't exist? that all races are the same in temperament, criminality and intelligence? grade I morons
Yeah, pretty much. Most of them do. I absolutely don't. The worst flaw of liberals is their egalitarian bullshit: all races are equal, all cultures are equal, all religions are equal, all morals are equal. None of this is true and it's the source of all the destruction they cause.
Why not both?
>>74406049
I'm pretty moderate. I just come here to laugh at the world and how fucked it is by people that have been doing this stuff for millennia.
Getting Trump in office will be entertaining. Can't say I really like any of the candidates right now. Never really have in any election.
i'm pretty left wing, but i never really post
i just read and laugh at the stupid shit that's posted here
>>74422554
I think getting Bernie elected would be even more hilarious. But I don't think he has a chance.
It's a pretty fucked up state of things when we only care about presidents as far as the entertainment value they might provide because we know everything is too fucked to matter.
>>74421982
>Economics, the environment, religion, social policies of every kind, foreign policy and diplomacy, god damn, what AREN'T conservashits desperately wrong about? I mean race is LITERALLY the only thing they get even remotely right. Yet still most of them are worshipful cucks to kikes, so they even fuck that shit up. Conservatives are just retarded bastards who should never their stupid mouths so at least they can pretend to not be retarded instead of broadcasting to everyone that they are.
oh come on, socialist economics has ruined our countries, we are all in incredible amounts of debt, gotta pay for muh programs?
the environment? do you mean global warming? that's not backed by actual science and who got it all wrong? yet still used as an attempt to tax us all still further to implement muh socialism?
religion? you are making assumptions here, people should be free to choose to be a Christian or not, islam should be banned, atheism is fine, but are there benefits to christianity? a long and involved subject, very simplistic to just say the right is wrong
>social policies of every kind
can you name a leftwing social policy that actually fucking worked? welfare? created dependency and ever growing numbers of criminal shitskin bastards to feed. crime is caused by society, no one is bad? has led to lenient punishments and encourages crime
what AREN'T the left wrong about? go on
oh, and some insults, well done, faggot
>>74422849
this shit is what i'm talking about btw
it's hilarious
>>74422327
>The worst flaw of liberals is their egalitarian bullshit: all races are equal, all cultures are equal, all religions are equal, all morals are equal. None of this is true and it's the source of all the destruction they cause.
the worst flaw? this is the core of all their beliefs
how can you be a lefty if you don't believe in equality?
>>74423168
wow, what an engaging and well thought out argument, truly you are an intellectual giant, thanks for gracing us with your presence
>>74423391
Why are you so mad?
Did you look at your teeth in the mirror mate?
>>74422849
>oh come on, socialist economics has ruined our countries
Tell that to the space program. Most angloshits don't even know what Socialism is. Case in point: the stupid shit you just said. CAPITALISM out of control ruined the west, not Socialism.
>we are all in incredible amounts of debt
TO WHOM? To Socialists? Who are you in debt to? Those people wouldn't in a million years be the worst kind of capitalists, now would they?
>the environment? do you mean global warming?
No I mean the trainwreck of the environment. By the 1920s this planet was a complete catastrophe due to mostly capitalist policies. Then America toned that shit down around the 50s until Reagan got in office. We experienced a lag until about the mid-90s, then capitalism ramped its bullshit up again and started ruining everything: society, culture, product quality and of course, the environment. The global warming thing pisses me off because it's caused the environmental movement to lose credibility and that's fucking dangerous with how powerful capitalism is right now. That's an entire other issue though I don't want to get into. Flat out destruction of species: habitat loss, agribusiness, poaching, overfishing, etc.; and pollution are far more important threats to the environment and the conservashits have been trying their damnedest to remove as many regulations and allow them to do truly evil shit to both the planet and the people of this planet for decades now.
> yet still used as an attempt to tax us all still further
That's why I wonder half the time if it's actually a capitalist-planted plot to destroy environmentalism.
>muh socialism?
Stop using that word. You clearly don't know what it means.
>>74406049
I'm actually a leftist who shitposts autistic edgy right wing memes cause it's fun.
>mfw people still don't realize /pol/ is satire
>>74423391
i'm not going to argue with someone who's obviously mentally handicapped
>>74423748
i believe a portion is , i have a few friends who visit here and are normal IRL, but some people here are pant's on head retard who actually believe the shit they post
>>74422849
>religion? you are making assumptions here, people should be free to choose
You dumb sack of shit. There is no religious freedom as long as the jewish faiths are permitted to continue to exist because they won't allow it. You can't have a bunch of religions that don't fight and three that want to actively exterminate all others, including one another. Conservashits all too often just want the christshit mirror-image of sharia law, but it's okay, because they belong to the "correct" jewish religion.
>islam should be banned
I agree. Along with judaism and its twin christianity.
>but are there benefits to christianity?
Absolutely not. It's a cancerous, despotic, and yet hilariously egalitarian religion. It never ceases to amuse me that conservatives hate communism so much, yet want to enforce a religious form of it on everyone.
>a long and involved subject, very simplistic to just say the right is wrong
We call that "christian apologetics". It's not a difficult topic at all. The only reason it's "difficult" is because two billion people belong to these filthy evil religions. When you have three shitty, backward horrible religions that want all the others dead, you get rid of them. Problem solved. The others get along mostly fine. Look at the vast majority of religious conflict in history. You'll generally find one of the kike religions at the epicenter. India's breakup? Islam. Constant disruption and bloodshed in the modern middle east? Jews and muslims. The crusades? Mostly jews and muslims. Muslims have even provoked fucking BUDDHISTS to slaughter them. The jewish religions are a cancer and an aberration in the history of human religion and they need to fucking go. They've annoyed and harmed this world long enough. And the conservatives just can't get enough of the black, oozing filth.
>can you name a leftwing social policy that actually fucking worked? welfare?
This is literally a conservacuck meme. Observe the pic. Welfare WORKS. That must sting.
>>74423700
>Case in point: the stupid shit you just said. CAPITALISM out of control ruined the west, not Socialism.
oh yeah?
http://www.greaterthings.com/Constitution/Associates/10Marx_planks.htm
archived for you http://archive.is/vjcyW
>TO WHOM? To Socialists? Who are you in debt to? Those people wouldn't in a million years be the worst kind of capitalists, now would they?
the jews? hmm, also the worst kind of socialists
but you miss the point as to WHY we are in debt. so WHY are we in debt? wars and social programs/gibs?
you may have some points re environment, but what is your solution? ban all mining and fossil fuel use? go back to scrubbing in the dirt manually to grow our food? reduce our quality of life back to being peasants? whilst the socialist wlite continue to eat caviar and champagne?
socialists seem to be the kind of people who would be happy if everyone was poor, as long as we were all equal
so tell me again, what is socialism without egalitarianism?
>That's why I wonder half the time if it's actually a capitalist-planted plot to destroy environmentalism.
because socialists can do no wrong? they are all saints and above raising taxes to spend it on bureaucracy and gibs?
>>74423842
the bigger man walks away
there's occasionally threads but they just post anime and communist memes
they don't really debate anyone or involve themselves in serious discussion, just shitpost and leave probably back to /soc/ or /v/
>>74411482
I did. Been here for awhile and was in with the ron paul lolbertarian craze, I've grown away and moved towards the center since then. I see the retards on both sides
>hitler was a gud boi he dindunuffin
>all women are sluts and stoopid
>le evil anglo
some of the shit I don't agree with here
>>74424376
I'm not religious, so it is difficult for me to argue for christianity, suffice it to say that a cold is better than cancer
when it comes to your graph, you don't list national debt, and that this is borrowed from future generations, and at some point becomes unsustainable. stealing from your kids is not a moral act
>Welfare WORKS
maybe temporarily, but it's not sustainable. the people always want more, and the only source is borrowing, once tax revenues are exhausted
>>74412258
do less
Testimonial: I'm here because I first looked at /pol/ when I was a clueless orthodox liberal. I got blown the fuck out so badly that I had no choice but to reorient my views. Now I hate niggers, and so can you!
>>74425310
love that pic bro, glad you could join us, always difficult to admit you are wrong, well not for me, since I'm always right, but yo uknow what I meme
>>74406049
Why do you have to be left or right wing? That's oversimplifying things to a stupid degree.
I'm hardliner right on immigration (only to some demographics), but left on domestic policy and military
>>74425481
just say it you faggot
national socialist
>>74422849
>has led to lenient punishments and encourages crime
Honestly, nobody gets law enforcement right. Liberals are far too lenient and conservatives are the sorts of corrupt niggers responsible for exactly the sort of (justified) arguments about "good ol' boy clubs" that through nepotism allow their criminal buddies to get away with felonies, but prosecute to the full extent of the law anyone they consider "outsiders". And now, of course, the conservashits have extended this criminal permissiveness to their rich criminal plutocrat friends who literally have pedophile rings, skip on taxes, and extort money from the public among a multitude of other crimes.
>what AREN'T the left wrong about?
Oh the left is wrong about plenty of things. But there is almost NOTHING the right is right about, ironically.
>>74423391
>how can you be a lefty if you don't believe in equality?
You tell me.
>>74423748
No matter how many times you say this, you only reveal you're a shill because nobody believes it and you're the only ones who say it.
>>74424376
For the crusades that should have been "christians and muslims", if that wasn't obvious.
>>74424594
>http://www.greaterthings.com/Constitution/Associates/10Marx_planks.htm
>archived for you http://archive.is/vjcyW
Whining about communism isn't proof that capitalism didn't destroy everything. It's not coincidence that the United States started taking a nosedive after Reagan got in and hasn't recovered.
>the jews? hmm, also the worst kind of socialists
Yes, bankers are "socialists", moron. Now eat your carrots.
>but you miss the point as to WHY we are in debt
No. I do not. You just keep refusing to see it because you're a useless pleb who can't stop defending capitalism. We're in debt because the rich want to extort money from everyone else and since we don't both to control them anymore, they DO.
>wars and social programs/gibs?
Wars yes, and whom do wars benefit? Socialists?
>>74425481
how can you be leftwng in any way if you don't have the core belief of equality?
>>74406049
Here for the memes and maymays. Nothing else britbrah.
>>74425686
>Honestly, nobody gets law enforcement right. Liberals are far too lenient and conservatives are the sorts of corrupt niggers responsible for exactly the sort of (justified) arguments about "good ol' boy clubs" that through nepotism allow their criminal buddies to get away with felonies, but prosecute to the full extent of the law anyone they consider "outsiders". And now, of course, the conservashits have extended this criminal permissiveness to their rich criminal plutocrat friends who literally have pedophile rings, skip on taxes, and extort money from the public among a multitude of other crimes.
do you include crooked shillary in that group?
>Oh the left is wrong about plenty of things. But there is almost NOTHING the right is right about, ironically
ya blew it, you didn't list a single thing, just blamed the right again
>You tell me.
serious nigger? I ask you a question and you demand I answer it myself? don't you know?
>For the crusades that should have been "christians and muslims", if that wasn't obvious.
the crusades were a response to decades of mudslime aggression, therefore it's their fault
>Whining about communism isn't proof that capitalism didn't destroy everything.
I don't notice you refuting anything in that article
feel free to do so
>Yes, bankers are "socialists", moron
not all jews are bankers, moran. they were over 80% of the leadership of the bolshevik communist revolution, and prominent in all communist movements of that tiem, even being the ones who created commuinism, yet it is still fine to walk around with a hammer and sickle, when a swastika would get you arrested or beat up
>No. I do not. You just keep refusing to see it because you're a useless pleb who can't stop defending capitalism. We're in debt because the rich want to extort money from everyone else and since we don't both to control them anymore, they DO.
I see, so spending on welfare has had no effect? it's sustainable to keep on borrowing from our children?
>>74424594
And social programs are the ONLY thing keeping the trainwreck of the anglosphere afloat at this point. The SECOND you remove the welfare state, the West becomes the third world. But it doesn't matter, slow or fast, that's what the rich want and they'll fucking get it either by getting the conservatives to whine enough to remove benefits or by simply importing third worlders and paying them below minimum slave wages. Again, that's the rich doing that. And here's the kicker: if the fucking rich parasites would fucking pay their taxes and the government would stop stealing money from Social Security we'd have no financial issues. Not to mention the constant for-profit wars this country engages in. We also have the highest cost of healthcare per capita on the planet, yet we don't rank in the top ten for medical care. That's fucking awful. Then of course there's our infrastructure, education and everything else that's collapsing. America is widely recognized as one of the hardest countries on Earth to get public benefits in and if you remove the rich from the equation, it's economy is doing terribly.
>you may have some points re environment, but what is your solution?
I don't believe for a second there is any solution beyond actual divine intervention. The rich have been allowed to get FAR too out of hand by useful idiots exactly such as yourself.
>ban all mining and fossil fuel use? go back to scrubbing in the dirt manually to grow our food? reduce our quality of life back to being peasants? whilst the socialist wlite continue to eat caviar and champagne?
>But we have to be DIRRRTY to support low technology!
What a fucking retarded argument. If you weren't such backward, retarded capitalists, technology would have solved most of these problems when you had time to do so. Instead you squandered the future and now you have no option but eventual collapse. Conservatives did that. NOT even the WORST of liberals did.
>>74425686
>>wars and social programs/gibs?
>Wars yes, and whom do wars benefit? Socialists?
it's quite complicated, but yes, those in power, wether they claim to be left or right often benefit from wars, whilst the plebs end up being theones who die in them, and fund them
>>74426243
>The SECOND you remove the welfare state, the West becomes the third world
because of socialist policy creating dependence and stifling enterprise
poor Venezuela, those evil capitalists huh?
so many socialist success stories
>We also have the highest cost of healthcare per capita on the planet
would more competition and less regulation make it cheaper? or are monopolies the way to go?
>it's economy is doing terribly.
because of socialist policies including high taxes and welfare programs, as well as over regulation creating barriers to competition
>I don't believe for a second there is any solution beyond actual divine intervention. The rich have been allowed to get FAR too out of hand by useful idiots exactly such as yourself.
aww, it's my fault is it? and yo are just such a fucking saint, who has no solutions, kek
>What a fucking retarded argument.
>backward, retarded capitalists
>technology would have solved
socialism is sooo good at competition, it never creates monopolies and disincentivizes competition does it. more governement will fix it huh, baka?
>>74424594
>socialists seem to be the kind of people who would be happy if everyone was poor, as long as we were all equal
Actually, your society disgusts me as primitive and backward. I would have morons like you executed at once so we wouldn't have to deal with you. I'm a strict eugenicist.
>so tell me again, what is socialism without egalitarianism?
Nazi Germany for one. But hell, even the communist USSR after being fucked all to hell by WWII still outclassed the West in almost every technological achievement, because capitalists have to watch the bottom line. Socialists don't give a shit. They do what they do to get it done, not to give some parasite another 3 mansions and a garage of antique cars. And this was all DURING America's most prosperous time period.
>because socialists can do no wrong?
No, because it's too overfocused, too politicized and too artificial. Anyone with a BASIC understanding of environmentalism knows that global warming is probably not even in the top three threats to the environment, yet it's all anyone ever focuses on anymore. That smells fishy as hell to me. Not to mention the fact that it only benefits the conservakikes and their capitalist masters.
>>74425074
>a cold is better than cancer
This is the problem. The West has been such a jewish cuckold for so many centuries you don't even see christianity as the jewish cancer it is. Name ONE thing that muslims do that pisses you off that christians didn't at one point BECAUSE of christianity. Burkas? Ever heard of a wimple? Or a habit? Why do you think nuns look like that? Child marriage and rape? That was great fun for christfags back in the day. In fact, right up til modern times in some areas. Holy wars? Christians sure loved to kill goyim and frankly, still do when permitted. But the world is no longer ruled by kike religions, outside the Middle East, and you cancerous kike wannabes had to tame your shit down accordingly.
Left-wing people are evil.
>>74425074
>when it comes to your graph, you don't list national debt
What difference would that make? It's not typically socialists who create it.
As far as surplus / deficit goes and pic related:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/12/barack-obama/we-have-cut-our-deficits-three-fourths-obama-state/
And once again, the national debt is owed to whom? Socialists?
> the people always want more
You mean the rich? Yep, never enough they can suck from the people to satisfy their greed.
>and the only source is borrowing
No, the source is taxes, you fucking moron. Which the rich incidentally don't fucking pay anymore.
>once tax revenues are exhausted
Well guess what? When the rich pay their fair share, that doesn't happen.
These streams of textual diarrhea backed by zero facts which is the opposite of reality is exactly why conservatives are such human cancer. You're a faggot. Kill yourself.
I'm a racially aware communist
>>74415212
Just because it's leftist doesn't make it socialist
>>74426964
>Name ONE thing that muslims do that pisses you off that christians didn't at one point BECAUSE of christianity
are you familiar with the "gates of ijtihad"?
since you probably aren't I will explain, when the Christians worked out that science could prove parts of the Bible wrong, they decided the bible was being metaphorical. when the mudslimes had this discussion, they decided that reality was wrong
>Anyone with a BASIC understanding of environmentalism knows that global warming is probably not even in the top three threats to the environment
did any of the IPCC models correctly predict the temperature?
>I would have morons like you executed
omg, you mean like they did in Russia, and Hungary, and Poland and Ukraine, and China, and Cambodia and everywhere that socialism has metastasized? all that blood on your hands, yet you want more, claim to be a saint, advocates death, misery, thoughtcrimes and poverty, so noble
but hey, as long as you feeel good about yourself? as 180 million ghosts scream into the wind decrying your evil
>>74427457
>Kill yourself.
this is how I now your a socialist, because that is what always happens in socialsim, mass murder, you evil bloodthirsty cunt
>>74415212
>>74408858
They were national socialists. They were the definition of socialist. "but they're not collective" is not an argument, socialism is an economic system, not whatever feels right.
You can however say they weren't "left wing" since left wing is not really a set defined thing and nationalism is considered right wing now a days.
Nazism is retarded btw. They clearly were a failed state, you should realize their politics are flawed by that fact alone. The american constitution was the greatest document ever written. We should follow the ideals of the founders, not nazis.
>>74425719
You seem to be laboring under a lot of illusions.
>>74426187
>do you include crooked shillary in that group?
Hillary is a member of a D.C. dynasty. She's about as corrupt as the Bushes.
>ya blew it
I didn't blow shit. You're just a retarded faggot. Here, I'll make this simple. You know all that retarded, backwards shit you and other conservatives believe? The opposite of that. Keep in mind the definitions of liberal and conservative, democrat and republican have changed so radically in the past half century that we're kind of limited to what those terms mean today to say anything meaningful. Once upon a time the Democrats hated niggers and the Republicans were afraid of christian fundamentalists taking over the party.
>serious nigger? I ask you a question and you demand I answer it myself? don't you know?
Actually I originally had my political compass posted but had to swap it out for another image.
>the crusades were a response to decades of mudslime aggression, therefore it's their fault
Blah blah blah blah blah christians dindu nuffin. Man I wish I could post multiple images. Your precious newkikes have spilled plenty of innocent blood in the name of the kikes' war god, including that of our own ancestors.
>I don't notice you refuting anything in that article
Because there's nothing to refute. Communism has little part in the obvious problems that capitalism caused. I'm not going to bother refuting some bullshit link you send me that claims the moon is self-luminous either when it's self-evident the sun is the source of light.
>not all jews are bankers
So America owes its debt to just "the jews", huh? Not any bankers or anything? Just every jew gets a slice of ownership in Western debt? What level of idiot are you? I mean, I get that you're going through mental acrobatics to defend the shit that is capitalism, but this is getting absurd.
Yes I'm a borderline socialist and anti racist and I've been here for years. I go here for a number of reasons
1.to understand where my opposition is coming from
2.for laughs. Ben Garrison and Trump memes are hilarious
3.because i genuinely hate SJWs and am extremely disillusioned with the left. gamer gate and Sargon respond to this by getting outraged back at them and complaining, /pol/ responds to them by laughing at them and fighting them with meme magic. I like the latter approach
>>74428199
>The american constitution was the greatest document ever written. We should follow the ideals of the founders, not nazis.
it's a great document, if only they had used the phrase "all White men are created equal" instead of "all men"
I bet they couldn't even conceive of a time where we would be brainwashed wnough to import the thrid world
>>74426187
>they were over 80% of the leadership of the bolshevik communist revolution
And? Let me guess, you're such a sickening pleb you think the only choices are capitalism and communism.
You know what? I've wasted enough time on you. You're far too uneducated and retarded to debate. Go read a fucking book, nigger. Seriously. And make sure it's not the bible, faggot.
>>74428467
>Hillary is a member of a D.C. dynasty. She's about as corrupt as the Bushes.
yet a socialist
it's almost like whatever they espouse, it's really all about power. which is why I like trump, he's not bought by the money kikes. at least it's probable, when definitely all the others are
>Actually I originally had my political compass posted but had to swap it out for another image.
so fucking what? you still can't answer the question
> Your precious newkikes have spilled plenty of innocent blood in the name of the kikes' war god, including that of our own ancestors.
thanks goodness you ascribe to the kike doctrine of socialism then
>Because there's nothing to refute.
sure buddy, just ignore it, if it helps your cognitive dissonance
>So America owes its debt to just "the jews", huh? Not any bankers or anything? Just every jew gets a slice of ownership in Western debt? What level of idiot are you? I mean, I get that you're going through mental acrobatics to defend the shit that is capitalism, but this is getting absurd.
did I say that? there are plenty of shabbas goy too
don't you have tens or hundreds of millions to massacre for not following your ideology? red? redhanded, blood on your hands
>>74428555
well your the fan of the massmurderers
hope you aren't haunted by their screams, as you attempt to implement the same scheme
would you send me to the gulag for not following the party line? thought so
there is no evil such as that which thinks it is doing good
>>74428535
>anti racist
thats just a code word for anti-White
asia for the asians,
africa for the africans,
but White countries for everyone?
that's genocide
anti-racist is just a code word for anti-White
>>74428555
>they were over 80% of the leadership of the bolshevik communist revolution
you didn't even attempt to refute this statement, brcause you know it is correct
>>74406049
Yes, we do. It's how we figure out which right-wing nut job are truly worthy of our derision.
>>74429292
No it just means I don't think an entire group of people should be treated differently because some of them commit disproportionate amounts of crime any more that all men should be judged for committing a disproportionate amount of rapes. It has nothing to do with my stance on immigration which you don't even know
>>74406049
Yes, national SOCIALIST browse this board.
>>74426243
>The SECOND you remove the welfare state, the West becomes the third world.
Ridiculous. The welfare state craze starts in the 30s, <20% government spending was the norm before that and it resulted in some of the most prosperous countries in the world.
Sweden already had the 4th highest GDP per capita worldwide when it started experimenting with socialism. A century earlier it was poor as shit, it didn't make that distance with government spending and social programs.
>>74429609
seemingly you don't support the rights of White children to have homelands, whilst supporting the rights of other races children. you discriminate, whilst pretending you are e-gay-lie-tardian
>>74429529
>99% of posts are flat out retarded leftist """arguments"""
>wtf why is this board so right wing?!
>>74430562
oy vey, dis andisemidism fug xddddd
