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I've got a lefty on my hands who is in total denial regarding differences in IQ between races due to concrete, biological reasons. He believes that it is entirely due to social conditioning and won't even consider otherwise unless I get him totally damning evidence. Can anyone help me out with this?
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>>74381654

lol fuck Italy you guys are the white niggers of Europe
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>>74381738
That's Ireland you fucking retard
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>>74381779

>Trolled softly
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>>74381654
Common-sense racial categories have biological meaning.
http://www.ln.edu.hk/philoso/staff/sesardic/Race2.pdf

Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html

Human intelligence is highly heritable.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
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>>74381943
>>74381654

The SAT one is really damning, if I had to choose anything it would be that.

Also look up the Minnesota trans racial adoption study
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>>74381943
With all that said bear in mind the fact that when lefties say that intelligence is due to social conditioning, statistics demonstrating biological inherited intellect do not refute the idea that evolutionary social conditioning is not the cause of the genetic gap. These statistics merely show that the race IQ gap exists as of right now. It is still possible for them to refute that there is any innate IQ difference between the races by making the claim that the genetic differences have been caused by social conditions over time. Whether that is the case or not does not matter unless you get challenged on it specifically and require further help.
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There's an entire book on it called 'The Bell Curve' but since he's a leftist he won't bother reading anything unless it's a blogpost.
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>>74381654
I've got you:

Here's the thing. Liberals HAVE to come up with a liberal answer to racial inequality, merely on the chance that the science will become undeniable. You don't even have to take a position on whether or not it's true (it is). IF it's true, rhetoric and politics won't be able to subdue it indefinitely, and other societies, like East Asians, won't have time for word games, and denial.

If liberals don't lay the theoretical and philosophical groundwork NOW for a humanistic response to natural inequality they are guarantee that when the evidence mounts, and compounds, and becomes undeniable, it will be the right will will have the only fully constructed response to the situation. THEY will dictated the terms, and society will have a backlash against the liberals because everyone will realize that they had been lying, obfuscating, and hiding the ball with the facts.

If liberalism is so great, then liberals shouldn't be afraid of natural inequality. It SHOULD be trivially easy for them to response humanely to it. I suspect they know they don't have an answer though.
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>>74381943
>Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html

Remove this fucking link. No where in the article did it conclude race is up to 75% heretible
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>>74382387
Murray deliberately restricted the research covered in the book to WHITES. He did not address race directly. He did this so people could focus on the content rather than get wrapped up in race. They go wrapped up in race anyway, and tried to tar his name.
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>>74381654
If you had a brain cell or two lying around, you could had a look yourself on Google scholar and evaluate the evidence yourself.

Ignore all newspaper articles.
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>>74381654
Never discuss with a leftie. Terminate.
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>>74382294
I agree, but no average lefty would ever be able to make that argument through lack of understanding and debate skills. So I don't think OP should worry.

A good defense would be to point out evolutionary differences between European whites and Africans, etc. The races largely evolved separate from each other (obviously), and as such are different from each other. If they weren't then the Africans would've been just as technologically advanced as Europeans when they arrived on their shores.
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>>74381654
African languages don't have a future tense, niggers literally can't think into the future.
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>>74381654
>I believe something is right even though I have no knowledge of the facts that support this position, but still I totally wanna make others believe this shit.

Sorry mate, but that's how leftists operate. Lurk more.
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>>74382120

I told him to focus specifically on the SAT one, and he's saying that due to a lack of citations it's obviously false. Thanks for all the help so far to the rest of you, didn't expect so much, keep 'em coming.
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>>74382676
Mandarin doesn't have a future tense either (nor a past tense), and they have the lowest time preference of any civilization. They do have temporal words like 'tomorrow' and 'yesterday' though.
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>>74382676
Is that why they're always bringing up slavery
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