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How do we fix Venezuela?
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Invade them Hue
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Genocide the leftists
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>>74380319
cant forget the corruption where their leader pockets all the revenue from oil sales and puts it into a private account

all the while claiming to be for the people

hahahahahaha
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>>74380171
Give it to Colombia. This would make it a superpower by 2030.
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>>74380253
Hue
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We could take over

It wouldn't make Venezuela good but it would make it less shitty
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>>74380319
this is because venezuelans are lazy brown apes, not because muh socialism
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>>74380171
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>>74380171
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>>74380171
Remove Maduro
Kill commies
Sell the State's companies to the private sector

Could work.
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You can't. Just watch them die.

>>74380522
No thanks, we are busy enough with our own problems to bring in a bunch of brainwashed and hopeless commies in.
Better give them to brazil, they are such a big mess that they won't care about having one more little clusterfuck attached.
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>>74380171
temporary dollarization, sell the public companies and fire 90% of bureaucrats, adjust the budget.
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>>74380171
Removing the drug cartels would be a start.
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>>74381043
Did we just get called a big fat mess by fucking Colombia?
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>>74381223
Not such thing in venezuela.
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>>74381232
Colombia is objectively better than Brazil at this moment
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>>74380753
Socialism ruins everything. Adding lazy, corrupt brown people to the mix only exacerbates the situation.
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>>74381262
BULLSHIT
They have el cartel de los soles, el tren de aragua, el tren del pacifico, la banda del picure, los pancracio, el grupo wilfredo,
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>>74380171
Kill all socialists and their supporters.
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>>74381311
Colombia has always been objectively better than Brazil at all moments.
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>>74380171

Japan needs new land, and venezuelans can walk to the sea and drown there.
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>>74381311
Because they managed to stop a guerrilla group from recruiting kids?
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>>74381501

Not when the FARCs violence were at peak. Good thing I will live to see them all hanged. Bunch of manbabies and child abductors that claim to know better but keep hiding in the jungles living like dirty monkeys.
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>>74381616
colombian goverment allows gay "marriage" and Lay education
guerrilla at least hates faggotry
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>>74381749
colombian goverment allows gay "marriage" and Lay education
guerrilla at least hates faggotry
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just burn us down so that we can rise from the ashes like a phoenix, then everyone will go crazy investing and making venezuela great again
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>>74380171
A war. This is the only way.
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Why not just print some more toilet paper. It works for us.
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>>74382138
this idea that if a country fails hard enough it'll spontaneously get better is refuted by the existence of Haiti.
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>>74381749
>>74381616
Mere leftovers of populism. Keep in mind your former president and your ex-president were both avid supporters of guerrillas.
Brazil is a divided country, will always be. It's simply too big, with states bigger than entire European countries, some being 1st-world tier and others being Ethiopia-tier. It's deemed to fail until we actually divide the country. Also:
>inb4 muh federation
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>>74382138
was Venezuela ever conservative catholic society?
depending on the answer ill donate or not to Venezuelans to help them
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>>74382268
Haiti is a negro country. You could resurrect it 100x and it would still be the same Haiti.
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>>74382278
B-but Lula is going to jail.

Based Moro will condemn him and all of the PT
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>>74382278
The Northeast and the North aren't part of the country,fuck them,we could fucking give anything from up there to other countries except maybe Manaus and it wouldn't make a difference except to our HDI and crime rates
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>>74382281

The only donation that will help venezuela is a bullet to maduros head.
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>>74382428
his ideology will still exist. Just wait and watch the Northeast vote for Marina en mass.
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>>74380171
Remember that time you guys protested and revolted because you didn't want genocide?
>This is your problem now, faggots
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>>74380171
Annexed by Dominicans.
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>>74380171

Unfortunately, the best thing to do is leave the country alone. Chavism was widely supported by the population and a good chunk still defend it. If enough people still think chavism is a good idea, then this crisis will pop up again with different politicians.

Just let people suffer enough until they kill the corrupt government officials and default on the debt that people were stupid enough to give money to them.
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>>74382768
>Saudi Arabia
>Arabia
>Northern Africa and the Rhino horn known as Soma-something
>Persia/Iran
w h a t
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>>74382768
>FUCKING TURKEY
>EUROPE
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>>74382910
Better get your asshole oiled up for another couple of centuries living under a moor caliphate.
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One word...
Pinochet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
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>>74383134
>Removed kebab directly through war for 800 years in uneven circumstances and won
>Then removed their rapekebabbabies till 1800's, when there were not anymore of them
Okay, Colombian Drugeocracy.
Have fun with your rape and murder, we like it better here.
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>>74383134
That triggers the Spaniard. I'm all for the banter, but this is written savagery what you just did.
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>>74383570
>Trigger
>hahaha look at this 800 years war you won, that thanks to winning it, you invaded and /literally/ raped us!
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Throw Maduro and his lackeys out of a helicopter.
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>>74380171
We don't. We sit back and let it burn. Someone living there has to step up eventually and take control, right? They're not all seriously sitting there waiting for the gub'ment to fix it are they?
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>>74383854
>We sit back and let it burn
QUICK CALL THE CANADIAN SPECIAL FORCES
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>>74383983
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You know how much oil America gets from Iraq? If you cut that in ½ which is 50% that's how much oil America gets from Venezuela. There's a reason why both countries are a mess.
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>>74383854

All the smart venezuelans are living east fort lauderdale now.
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>>74384453
And just like India and Cuba, Venezuela falls victim to the American brain drain.
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>>74383652
>Based history of kebab removal
>Get cucked anyways even when you don't have enough jobs for yourself

That only makes things sadder.
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>>74384220
Remember when Chavez got his gold back? It's payback time now.
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>>74384702
You know only 12 refugees have come so far, don't you? Life is good here in Spain.
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>>74384220
oh really? do you know how much oil America gets from Canada?
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>>74385032
>Life is good here in Spain.
Sure thing, pal
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>>74385032
If it was as good as you're claiming I wouldn't have seen so many complaints from Argentinians and Uruguayans on Spanish """migrants""" stealing their jobs, for being paid 20% less or just enough to afford bread and milk. Also, tell your neighbors west of you to stop coming to southern Brazil, we don't need their poorly-qualified labor here either.
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>>74385228
>>74385287

Show yours, examples of civilized countries.
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>>74380522
hahahaha

We are the same except we don't have nearly as much oil. We still have plenty of natural resources.
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>>74381223
will never happen as long as Amerifats and Europeans keep consuming cocaine
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>>74385380
>examples of civilized countries.
Why do you need to get so defensive?

Takes one shithole to recognize another, you know.
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>>74385380
Meh. You wipe Northeast Brazil off the map and we're good. And for both Colombia and Brazil, those come mostly from conflicts between the police and drug dealers. Now, that doesn't change the fact that your fellow countrymen are cleaning our toilets.

>>74385594
I was talking to a Colombian a while ago, and Colombia seems to produce the highest quality cocaine in the world, and it's not even legal/industrialized and all that fancy stuff. Can you imagine how much Colombia could cash-in if you actually legalized it and had some sort of world monopoly on cocaine? With government-funded mugglers and all.

Bringing powder degeneracy to the West and shekels to your pockets.
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>mfw only a year ago leftists in the british press and in politics were praising Venezuela

Hahahahaha

Feels good to win

Oh and in answer to your question the first thing they need to do is purge the chavistas
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>>74385032
Spain is pretty but THERE ARE NO JOBS
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>>74386253

With all the gibs me dat muds storming europe, right now is a good time to not have jobs.
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>>74386047
But wouldnt it be like a dealbreaker for a lot of international treatys?
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>>74384220
I dont understand
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>>74385594
The only coke users I know are hipster college students with rich parents

Liberals ruin everything
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>>74386047
legalization = collapse of profits

besides it's an inmoral and destructive trade for everyone involved

And right now most of the money ends up laundered in American banks
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>>74380753
ITS SOCIALISM, Rojo hijo de puta, Tu clase me da asco.
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>>74380319

if only there was some sort of right wing military leader who took over the country in the late 70s, and then threw all the communist leaders out of an aircraft to preserve an american based liberal economy.
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>>74386513
Yes, exactly, also think about all those rich liberals in New York and Hollywood.

Traditional people don't do drugs
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>>74385600
I didn't know Colombia knew how to bantz
Cheers Pablo Escobar
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The only way to fix Venezuela is by letting the country burn, that's right, people need to see with their own eyes and feel with their own skin the horrors of socialism. Only after disaster the masses will begin to swing to the right on their own and thus will never want to even welcome the thought of a socialist leader again. I used to live in venezuela.
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>>74386398
I'm certain Russia and China are doing that to a large extent. They just keep it low and make it look like they're not even involved.

>>74386569
>it's an inmoral and destructive trade for everyone involved
Competition, competition: somebody's got to lose.
And they should keep it "illegal" a la Russa: the government allows the largest cartel to monopolize the means of production, while taking down the competition, earning a percentage of all profit made by said cartel. It would eventually develop into a shadow government facility that nobody has to know about.
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>>74386047
Nah, it would be different if we were talking about weed, but cocaine legalization would be a no go.

I think our best shot it's creating a biotechnological weapon that worked like a plague and targetted the coca plant specifically.

>>74386759
Cheers for you too lad

>>74387124
The most fundamental part it's getting the army on your side. As long as the government keeps the soldiers bribed and happy you won't see any change happen, it's enough to look at the african shitholes that have been decades under totalitarian dictatorships.
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>>74386652

When the nation is in crisis, a heroic leader steps forth from among the people.

He may not be the hero you want, but he's the hero you need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
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>>74380319
the forests are still the same thing kek
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>>74380171
Cut off their manhoods and feed them to the goats.
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>>74380171
Abolish price control.
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>>74387488
Golly. Imagine watching a goat chew and gulp down your amputated cock.

There's no going back from that.
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>>74380171
Go back in time, kill all the poor people in 1998.
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>>74388223
If i could go back in time i'd rather get rid of Bolívar and his supporters before they became a problem.
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>>74385380
>>74385380
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>>74380171
Gas the kikes
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>>74388311
If we want to go further back, just kill off Spain.
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>>74388320
none of the countries above is better than spain in any way
and build the wall you are a
CHI
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>>74386047
Is that São Paulo,lad? Looks nice
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>>74387192
We are doing that. Except the money the country makes funds the operation.
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>>74386047
> and Colombia seems to produce the highest quality cocaine in the world
You see, we produce so many high-quality shit but you never see them inside the country. Best aguardiente? Sold outside because retarded liquor laws, there's a rum that even won some international awards and shit but they don't sell it here unless you want to pay with one of your testicles. Coffee? Same shit, we can't into toasting coffee beans. High quality chocolate? Same shit.

Apparently it's the same with drugs.
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>>74380753
This.

Fact: One of the national Venezuelan dishes is made with beans. They import it from fucking USA!
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>>74381188
>temporary
Look at us mate
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>>74381223
Offer and demand. South America wouldn't make cocain if Americans and Europeans didn't consume it
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Just put a big fat nuke in Caracas and all will be fine.

Or become socialist and you will se no problem in this contry.

>>74381223
Why? you get more selling food and meds than selling drugs... so we have food cartels
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>>74390180
beans...kek
>>74390730
but you are literally standing over a gold mine....that much oil...
In the worst case scenario you could sell it for 2% of its value like our politicians wanted to sell our gold resources and get out of this fucking mess.
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>>74380171

The oil barrel has dropped in price and they had a draught recently. Also they are hostile to the US.
They are playing in hard mode.
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>>74380753
as a brown colombia ape i must say you´re full of commie shit.
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>>74392373
dem bants colombia bro ..my sides ,you guys are really cool
Could you tell me more about FARC?
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>>74380171
Divide it up between Colombia and Guyana. Both those countries would do a better job by far.
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>>74393764
Guyana??Don't think so...they manage hardly in the state they are now...a burden like Venezuela would probably fuck even a strong economy.
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>>74392571
>Farc
Commie guerrilla group that, like any commie group, doesn't know what it's doing, so their political objectives are pure horseshit.

They became successful thanks to the conditions after the period known as "la violencia" because of low presence of the state/army forces in the countryside, so they seized lands, displaced or extorted farmers, and dedicated themselves to terrorism and cocaine production.

With the drug revenue and the shenanigans in the middle of nowhere, where the state couldn't do shit, they grew strong, seized cities, forced farmers and natives to grow coca plants for them, etc.

The rise of escobar and narcoterrorism had the government busy, so it was until Alvaro Uribe became president that we started an aggressive campaing of bombing and various leaders were killed.

In this period of Uribe's presidency and then Santo's presidency FARC weakened a lot because its founder (Manuel Marulanda) and other big shots like "mono jojoy" died. It was then that it became possible to negotiate and the peace talks started.

So far the peace talks look good, but they will require lots of amnesty, gibsmedats for demovilized combatants, and they will give FARC political participation, so we will finally get a proper commie party (which i hope fucking crashes and burns).

There are also doubts about FARC's current state of fragmentation, so it could mean a surge of new armed groups (probably based around drug production) even if the peace talks succeed.
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>>74394620
So FARC is practically like American in the 60-70's "All weed freedom ..nature peace" without the peace part .
Anyway i think the only thing that will stop the coke production will be the disapearing of the jungle.
Don't know your policy towards environment protection but Brazil is doing a great job in fucking the forest.
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>>74394903
>policy towards environment protection
I don't really know but i think it's more in the "no fucks given" side.

>the only thing that will stop the coke production will be the disapearing of the jungle.
I said it some posts before, but maybe using biotechnology to develop a special plague that only targets the coca plant would be a good choice to avoid raining down chemical bullshit destroying both drugs and legit crops.
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>>74395760
How are womyn there?I know they're true beauties but how is their behaviour?Are they hard to get?
On a side note Do you have any more spain memes?The one with the latin countries made me almost choke in laughing,though i didn't get Bolivia.Are they depressed/sad/isolated or only poor?
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>>74380661
You can't run your own fucking country properly, why would you be able to run Venezuela.

Venezuela needs Capitalism and Conservatives and it will thrive.
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What kind of excuses do the die-hard leftists make for Venezuela being a failed state?
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Fucking bomb it to shit and start over.
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>how is their behaviour?
I think they have nice points like valuing brains and usually not being like the usual braindead stacy.
>Are they hard to get?
Not for foreigners. As long as your skin is clear enough to not look like an average mestizo, you can get pussy easily in clubs/parties.


>i didn't get Bolivia.Are they depressed/sad/isolated or only poor?
All three. Here in colombia we have a region called chocó, and it's like our little africa, being the place with the lowest development and full of crime/poverty.
It still has a better HDI than Bolivia.
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>>74397123
damn poor bolivians....
Can you tell me more about the relations between the nordic countries of South America?
Are there any land / cultural disputes similar to Argentina/Brazil or Argentina/Chile?
How well do you get with your neighbours?
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>>74380171
poo in it
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>>74397511
>relations between the nordic countries of South America?
Huh?
I'd say pretty non-existent. We are only close to Spain, France, and Russia in europe.


>Are there any land / cultural disputes similar to Argentina/Brazil or Argentina/Chile?
I believe the last remaining disputes are the stuff going on between Venezuela/Guyana/Suriname, Argentina with the falklands, and Chile/argentina disputes about lands in the antartic continent.

>How well do you get with your neighbours?
Everything you may see here it's mostly bantz. We get along decently well with everybody except venezuela because maduro keeps flinging shit at us after the border crisis of 2015.

I'd say chileans, argies and panamanians might hate us because our niggers end up going there illegally and committing crimes.
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>>74380171
start throwing leftists out of helicopters
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>>74398218
Thanks for replying and providing interesting info friend,i am really interested in South America.I must go to sleep now.Hope we meet again. !!
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You just can't

This country is doomed.

I hope this shityhole burns like hell.


The only way to make Venezuela great again is to kill or slave all Venezuelans.

Just that, simple.
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>>74385228
No jobs mean no one wants to stay here, which includes the refugees.
You win some, you lose some.
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>>74400576
>kill or slave all Venezuelans

Nah, just erasing the Chavism supporters should do the trick I think. Sometimes I wish a war starts in there and you recieve enough support from countries to shut Maduro up (or kill him) and fix the mess.
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kill maduro, holy fuck venezuela, put a bullet in that commie fuck
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>>74386636
simio
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>>74402934
chavistas would win the war and you know it, they controll all the military and the common venezuelans aren't allowed to have guns.

chavistas would resort to genocide through famine to remain in power if they have to.
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>>74392373
socialism only works with productive white societies
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>>74382233
they can't afford to print money right now i doubt they can afford to print tiolet paper
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>>74403261
And if it's nationalist and maintains border's, any form of international Socialism fails, for example Sweden Norway, Denmark. Really International Socialist's are nothing more than a new PC SJW Jewish attempt at creating a one world order.

Human societies will natural create a one world order based on trade, not based on synthetic forced Socialism.
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>>74380171

Let the state collapse so el anarcocapitalismo can take its place
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>>74380171
Purge and rebuild
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>>74403192
>chavistas would win the war and you know it
That's why I remarked the support part. If I were Rajoy (not good example tho, new elections and etc) and tomorrow a manifestation goes into full civil war mode I'd movilice part of my military and make alliances with other countries that Maduro had been pissing off, to provide weapons, infantry and even machinery to fight if need be.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that with less than half of the forces of Spain and lets say, Colombia combined victory could be more than possible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaN4sboc7E8

They are too far gone.
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>>74385211
>oh really? do you know how much oil America gets from Canada?
Yes I do know I've always known. You're not going to educate me kid. America's view on Canada is they are one-of-us.
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>>74380171
There is nothing to fix. Socialism is best "ism".
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tfw lefties are BTFO

>The Guardian
>8th November 2013
>Sorry, Venezuela haters: this economy is not the Greece of Latin America

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/07/venezuela-not-greece-latin-america-oil-poverty

>Salon
>6th March 2013
>Hugo Chavez’s economic miracle

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/
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>>74404168
>Economic miracle
>Today, everyone can use one sheet of toilet paper, instead of sharing it as usual.

Even funded through massive amounts of oil dollars socialism does not work.
Venezuela is so full of shit.

If people don't see that they are full of shit, you can't fix it. Just like everywhere else.
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Even if you were to kill all the loons who followed leftist ideologies you would be left with people unequipped to do anything because for the past 20 years there has been an intellectual drain as people with actual expertise moved to places that would properly reward their skills.

Also consider the recent generation of Venezuelans. They have only known of this regime and have grown under its influence. Robberies and disregard for human life is commonplace and that isn't going to change.

Venezuela is an instruction guide on how to JUST an entire country.
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>>74382768

>Dominican republic annexing Venezuela

They cant even annex Haiti wich population is basically monkeys
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>>74380661
JEWSONARO

Top kek m8, top kek
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>>74387320
>I think our best shot it's creating a biotechnological weapon

Am actually in favor of the hue's proposal, its impossible to have the cocaine uprooted from people's mindset, so might as well make it a free competition industry, people wont give a fuck since the produce wont be sold here at a loss.

Unfortunately that wont happen and all we'll get now is a bunch of commies flooding the senate.
In 10 years time people will forget about the venezuelan socialism fiasco and they will get elected.
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>>74404792
hello Ahmed, how's foz do iguaçu?
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Can someone explain to a Burger what's going on in Venezuela without "MUH SOCIALISM" memes? Our media is telling us everyone is broke and eating their pets to survive, which sounds like bullshit to me. Is it that bad there? Why?
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>>74380319

You must be so fucking retarded...Amazing
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>>74380171
import whites
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>>74405023

Venezuelan here.

No food
Electric shortages
Crime
Corruption
Inflation

And all this due the "socialists" leaders and a retard population that deserves everything that's happening.
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>>74405023
hyperinflation is happening, i.e. government printing money like madmen to afford their expenses.
Venezuelans resort to the black market to get basic goods, where they use dollars. Their national currency is worth nothing.
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>>74405378

They already did once (portuguese, italian and spanish families). The country had the best economic boost on his story, white population makes most of the middle class in venezuela.
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>>74405023
They had a revolution that ended with chavez in power, now Chavez died of AIDS and left Maduro, oil went crashing and Maduro who is a monkey doesnt know how to get dat mony.
So he establishes price controls which got exploited by us, Colombians to sell at 10x the profit-
Followed by stricter price controls that sent every single company running out of the country or left them bankrupt.

Some anecdotal evidence:
A friend of mine came from Venezuela after having lived there since 2006 he told me people use powdered milk as some sort of currency, trading cell phones for it.

Now some actual evidence of what's happening:
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>>74405418
>>74405537
So, are they broke because of everyone collecting gibsmedats or is there some other reason. How do they get out of this?
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>>74388378
they can't afford gas can they oil the kikes instead?
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>>74405023

>Hyperinflation
>Government run groceries have no stock
>Sell available stock at artificially low prices below manufacturing costs just to fuck with private enterprise
>Government groceries open one day a week
>Government enforced food rationing
>Government employees in all branches have 2 working days a week because electricity production is low
>Daily blackouts, usually 4 hours long for the entire country
>Electricity production is low because the government invested like 60% of the production into a single fucking dam which is now dried up because of el nino
>Hospitals literally have next to no medication at all
>Electricity turns off mid operations
>Newborn mortality has multiplied by 100, from 0.02% to 2%
>People have reverted to a bartering system because their currency is worth nothing
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>>74405945
>Chavez died of AIDS
Wasn't it cancer?
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>>74405956

There is no even welfare at all in venezuela homeless people have to wait months even years to get public.

There's no thing like foodstamps, the government sell the food to a more affordable price and people have to pay anyways.

Only retired people get money.

Regarding the motive of the country collapse is just due to corruption and mismanagement, most of the people working for the goverment will steal the funds that were supposed to be used for the people. Also politicians linked to cartels stealing lage sums of dollars.
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>>74405956
everything is subsidized, gas, electricity, housing, food, it's all "muh free shit" there.

And there are huge consequences for this in the electricity sector, for instance. When you subsidize electricity people start buying refrigerators, ACs and all that stuff, up to a point when the generators just cannot handle it, so they have to cut subsidies and hike up the prices OR suffer with blackouts, which is what's happening.
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>>74406537
So, what's rock bottom?
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>>74380253
>invade
Please no. I am a tiny island and have only so much space to take in niggers. In fact we are full without even getting started!

https://panampost.com/nelson-albino/2016/05/11/as-venezuelan-crisis-deepens-curacao-prepares-for-refugees/

http://curacaochronicle.com/main/caribbean-islands-warned-as-venezuela-collapses/

Please. Just nuke it. Kill everyone before they can leave. Then we can 'colonize' it to make sure the oil keeps flowing. It's a win-win. Commies and niggers die. And Dutch Caribbean grows.
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>>74406647

The guillotine?
Hopefully some not-Napoleon as well.

>>74406608
This is 4chan, everything is AIDS.
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>>74406790

RARE
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>>74380171
What's this "we" shit?
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Killing all leftists
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>>74405418
>>74405653
>>74405945
>>74406537
>>74406634
>>74406635

OK, so let me see if I have a better grasp of this now:

>Chavez dies
>Maduro is a retard who doesn't know what to do
>oil prices bottom out, fist-fucking the economy
>meanwhile the gub'ment has been subsidizing utilities causing people to use them more
>economy starts to tank, so government sets price controls that have opposite effect
>currency valuations plunge
>government run supermarkets run out of shit to sell
>food, water, electricity running scarce
>meanwhile government has been raping treasury and is stashing money offshore.

Does that about cover it?
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>>74407032

Why dont you guys revolt already?
I dont mean just protesting but a full on violent revolt, is it because no guns?
You know this wont be over until Maduro's head ends up on a pike.

>>74407430
More or less, but you can see in the chart I posted the currency was tanking long before Maduro took over(2013), if anything he just inherited a disaster mostly because the oil crash.
But yeah, thats pretty much spot on.
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>>74404766
Maybe they will and deport all of those monkeys to Africa?
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>>74407430

>Chavez takes power in coup
>nationalizes companies especially oil
>uses money from oil to set up dem gibmedat programs
>Chavez dies and Maduro takes over
>suddenly oil price plummets
>Maduro has to cut programs
>economy falling hard with oil price
>Maduro prints so much money to try and prove economy not failing. Literally more Bolivar in circulation in Venezuela then dollars in the entire world now

They were idiots. They thought oil would stay at a high price forever. They never invested to create a diversified economy away from simply oil. They never built up savings in case there was an oil price plummet like Norway and even fucking Saudi Arabia have.
They were like any typical commie out there. Shit with money.
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>>74407430

the Chavista farce was being found out before he died. A huge amount of Venezuelans had realized how his propaganda of the "Bolivarian Revolution", that it would bring prosperity and equality, was full of lies. Caprilles got 45% of the votes in the 2012 elections.
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>>74407430
Country has been doing bad long before Chavez died, but now is impossible to paint it pink by the international media so now is that people around the globe can start to see how much of a shithole Venezuela truly is
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>>74406647
African tier mortality
>>74406877
Wrong, in 4chan EVERYTHING is cancer
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>>74407919
>>74407937
See, here in the US they are holding them up as a prime example of the failure of socialism, but it sounds more like the government was populated with greedy thieves who lined their pockets and made poor business decisions.
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>>74408296
>government was populated with greedy thieves who lined their pockets and made poor business decisions.

Literally every single government ever made, thats why socialism fails.
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>>74407676
Because we are pussies that don't want to die, we are too selfish to give our life for the greater good, we are also unarmed so we are just waiting for the criminals to revolt and maybe we will join them, one day you will see in the news how the people from the favelas in caracas came down to fuck shit up

Protests happen all the time at my college, like today there was about to happen a confrontation with the national guard, i just casually walked from the protester's side to the national guard's side because i was heading home while everyone was fucking screaming at me to run for my life as if they were going to start a war right there and then

Nothing happened besides burning 2 trucks and stealing the salt one of them had
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>>74408296
>it sounds more like the government was populated with greedy thieves who lined their pockets and made poor business decisions
So you're saying it was Communism?
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>>74408296
politicians are greedy thieves, socialism gives greedy thieves absolute and central control over the economy.
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>>74407919
This sums it up pretty nicely
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Thanks God for Los Andes and The Amazon.
#FuckRefugees
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Firebombing
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>>74408474

You know, I've never seen an argument that BTFOs the anti gun crowd so much as this one, in this moment this would not be happening if you guys at least had the right to arms.

I hope you survive/escape the civil wars to come venezuelanon.
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>>74408474
been seeing quite a lot of Venezuelans in Trinidad lately, also the number of natives going missing, I'm guessing the blackmarket on organs is booming?
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>>74408474
Saw this in the news. The war will be fought with sticks and stones
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Venezuelan here. We haven't learned. We're doomed.
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>>74408956
>guns

So instead of getting assfucked by the army, you get to kill a couple of cops before getting assfucked?

And if it devolves into a civil war you know the only ones profiting will be the jews selling weapons to both sides and getting whoever wins indebted to them, while your own infrastructure collapses and your nation becomes crippled?
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>>74406537
All true. But I still see photos of Venezuela and the people all look chubby and well fed, unlike a North Korea or some truly starving socialist paradise like that.

Must be some sort of Zimbabwe type situation, where a corrupt king prints money to pay his soldiers (to hang on to his own power) meanwhile the peasantry gets plunged into poverty. Also to have this kind of shitstorm in a breadbasket country like Venezuela, you have to do something like..........steal the land from the original farmers there and sell it all off to China????
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>>74409490
it would never get to this point with civilian guns.

The government goes around expropriating people's property and abusing them with absolute ease, with guns people could stand their ground.
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>>74409569
obesity doesn't mean well fed. empty carbs, white flour, sugary drinks, pasta, potato, cheap ass junk food. Good luck finding clean protein, activated almonds or plain water.

yep, Zimbabwe. We're gettin there.
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>>74408956
There is no genocide of the people in Venezuela, and also the people are too dumb to even know why they are fucked so completely. Guns would just add a lot more shooting and death to a country that already has a lot of that.

What would these retards go out and fight for? A more pure revolucion?? Imagine Bernie Sanders supporters going out and fighting for? More free shit? The government of Venezuela has run out of free stuff to give away. That or they already gave the farmland away to China, which nobody seems to be talking about.
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>>74380171
CAPITALIST REVOLUTION
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>>74409490
>>74409929


Its because government can do as it pleases that it came to this, and from here onwards?
What the hell are they going to do? Just wait and see?
I mean, really cant imagine where this is going or how is it going to end.
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>>74409929
>There is no genocide of the people in Venezuela

yet
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Everyone gets spicy house and sex maids. We send the others to fight ISIS or build the wall. 100% liquidation. Everything must go.
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>>74380753
Cállate conchetumare, todos los venezolanos que llegan acá son buenos para trabajar. Entiende que el corrupto culiao de Chávez y el aweonao de Maduro dejaron la cagá con su socialismo de mierda al peo.
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>>74388670
>be Sao Paulo State
>have HDI equal to developed European Countries
>Have big government steal 94 bucks out of every 100 bucks taxed
Sao Paulo is objectively better than any other state/city in South America
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>>74407919
I fucked a Venezuelan whoor in Holland last year, sorry your country is such a shithole.
It makes me realize how soft and safe I am up here when I think about the fact that toilet paper is a luxury item for you folks.
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