I'm currently finding reading materials about IQ and group IQ and how it effects all sorts of things.
Since you guys already(probably) hold strong opinions about IQ, I wanted to ask you a few questions.
If group IQ is genetic, what is the best way to deal with group differences in the world? should we start an aparthied of different groups?
Are IQ groupings more important than ethnic/racial classification, IE should people be divided(individually) into different IQ groups in society or different races in society?
And finally, what is the best way to improve a group's IQ? I have heard of eugenics(obviously), but have also heard of methods like seed selection, that seem much less destruvctive
I think we should group everyone with a jewish IQ into ovens.
>>74358965
113+ IQ people make the world go 'round, buddy.
>>74359217
look up clever sillies
we'll do just fine with our Archimedes and Newtons minus Marxs and Dworkins
>>74358798
that image. assuming the standard devieation of IQ is 15% instead of 10%,
i got tested for learning disabilitiesm in 5th grade and was told i had an iq in the top 2000 human beings on earth. k, even i call bullshit
>>74358798
It's about 50 percent hereditary but I am a firm believer in Darwin. In that I believe variety is the spice of species survival. You most certainly don't want to start a eugenics program. The sequences you eliminate may be the ones that are needed to endure a pandemic. Sickle Cell anemia sucks for instance but in a world plagued with Malaria you may well wish to inherit that curse as that trait means Malaria can't fuck you up. Can't run for shit but as everyone else around you drops dead due to mosquito swarms you could very well make the case that you are the future even with the significant handicap.
That said you should look to breed with the smartest people around you. Smart people obviously have the smart genes and high IQ is the goal. Find a woman who is really smart and breed with her, it's the only way to be sure.
You are a kike and that means you got the verbal IQ side covered most likely. Ergo, try to find a girl with a STEM degree. That will balance it all out and perhaps give us another Einstein. The kid only needs to be over IQ 130 to be a potential game changer. Do your part for the human race and breed with a smart girl. Looks fade, but brains are forever. I already filter for it. Dumb hotties are for idiots, smart girls are for breeding.
>>74358798
>if group IQ is genetic, what is the best way to deal with group differences in the world?
"A study (1999) by Capron and Duyme of French children adopted between the ages of four and six examined the influence of socioeconomic status (SES). The children's IQs initially averaged 77, putting them near retardation. Most were abused or neglected as infants, then shunted from one foster home or institution to the next. Nine years later after adoption, when they were on average 14 years old, they retook the IQ tests, and all of them did better. The amount they improved was directly related to the adopting family's socioeconomic status. "Children adopted by farmers and laborers had average IQ scores of 85.5; those placed with middle-class families had average scores of 92. The average IQ scores of youngsters placed in well-to-do homes climbed more than 20 points, to 98."[21][30]"
changing a child from one family from another can change the IQ up to 20 points. how can you say its genetic ?
My father is quite stupid and my mother is not too smart. I was told my IQ is around 140 and my brother is also quite intelligent. Where are the genetics
my stand on IQ tests is this :
-IQ tests are based on logical thinking and pattern finding.
I think its a good way to test problem solving (Inteligence is the capacity of realizing, categorizing and solving problems).
So If you study logics, its easyer to get higher grades on the pattern finding tests (i belive there are other way to mesure inteligence, some problems are not easly solved by logics but with politics, charisma and emotion handleling).
>>74358798
I don't know what society should do once it admits IQ is heritable. It should at the very least affect current policies. Immigration should favor higher IQ populations. It will undermine the narratives of less successful groups too. White privilege? Just the result of IQ. Same with anti-Jew conspiracies, their success is a byproduct of IQ. So on and so forth up and down the chain.
If I was an AnCap I'd suggest turning off welfare and letting nature take its course.
>>74360892
It doesn't have to come from your parents. It can come from generations back.
>>74360892
the geneticist oriented people will say the inteligent genes were recessives on your parents. and you got them active. i belive you probably had more access to education or acted towards logical thinking more than your parents. Playing logical games, liking math or programming. Mabe reading more.
>>74360974
IQ scores correlate with reaction time which leads me to believe it scores how quickly your brain can process information, among other things. But obviously being able to reason with new data more quickly is a major plus.
There are also hard stops with IQ though. I watched a Google talk on IQ and there are some high level math courses where they surveyed the IQs of students and literally no students under certain thresholds got higher than certain grades which led them to believe there is also a hard cap on what some people can work with intellectually.
>>74358798
Interesting premise but it's fundamentally wrong because IQ is related to race and socioeconomic status. There is significant research to also show that IQ is hereditary but with a sizeable volatility.
Impinging on people's ability to reproduce (besides an equally distributed limit to curb population growth) would be decried for its eugenic slant and denied. Furthermore IQ is just one (alas very significant) indicator of mental ability and you'd probably want physical selection criteria too.
All in all, just let Darwinism do its thing by removing welfare and child support which allow people to have more children than they could naturally support.
>>74360651
Genetics determines the "base line" as it were. Genes tell you where they start in the IQ race. This is race related sadly, and the ones who start at the metaphorical top are kikes, Asians, and Europeans. The other races start significantly below these people. Again, these are but mere averages, outliers exist which is why I don't go full 88. I'm all about the 14, but I'm not quite sold on the 88.
>>74360892
We're still trying to figure that one out, which is why I don't wanna gas the kikes and shitskins just yet. If we're gonna go full eugenics we really need to figure that shit out first before we launch the program. Again, I'd hate to eliminate a trait that actually saves us from extinction just because some dumbass neo-nazis said it was inferior.
>>74360974
They got tests like that. One of them just relies on the pattern recognition. The real trick, the one that separates the average from the geniuses, is how you need to think outside the box to solve the problems.
See, they give you a set of patterns and a bunch of completed designs that use said patterns. The real trick is figuring out that they never said you couldn't play around with the designs (i.e. mirror, flip, and/or use them twice in these altered states).
I got it easy, but I also clocked in above 130 on a "traditional" test. Once you're over 130, you've won the genetic/IQ lotto. There ain't nothing you can't learn to do if you put in the effort at that point.
>>74358798
culture is more important than iq so iq grouping sucks
every population should strive for cultural and ethnical homogeneity so there's no reason to "deal with it"
there's no need to improve iq, lower iq people have other desirable genetic qualities which should not be overlookes
eugenics is disgusting and amoral
>>74360892
IQ is genetic - this is a fact. A lot of people say that is isn't genetic because their parents/relatives are stupid but they have a high IQ - it can come from generations back.
You cannot increase your intelligence. The only thing you can do is fully utilize it (everyone has potential, but not everyone uses that potential completely).
>>74361398
>culture is more important than iq
Yes, but why is a certain culture the way it is? Because of the intelligence of its creators.
>>74360651
>Up to 20 points
Well the difference between the average highest and lowest was only 12.5, so nice try Brazil. It's retarded to believe IQ is not affected by environment but the reality is genetics has a much bigger role. The nature v nature debate was settled with nature being the clear winner.
Also, doesn't it also suggest that successful and intelligent people know how to raise and educate children better than less successful and intelligent people? What's the solution for getting around that? Force successful people to take on more random kids?
>>74361077
>>74361108
My mother's father was a humble farmer from Andalucia that migrated to Valencia during Franco dictatorship. He died before I was born but I've been told that was brilliant at mathematics, wrote children's stories and was major of my hometown for some years. Maybe I got it from him. Maybe also from my father's parents, but they also died before I was born, when my father was very young, so I guess I'll never know.
Intelligence has both genetic and enviromental influence, so there is a lot of randomness involved
>>74360651
Also, as a side note, quite a few studies presented a very strong link between significant negative events early on in life and IQ. This study could easily just be showing that a proper home helps them recover from that disadvantage.
Them uncontrolled variables lololololol stat padding
>>74361539
That's what liberals would have us do. In the Kibbutz system kids are raised by everyone, not their biological parents. It's commie paradise but you'll notice only one kind of person is comfortable with this arrangement. And they wonder why they get so much hate...
>>74360651
Black families have to make about 180 hand more to outdo white kids on the sat
It's both
>>74361397
I will stick with my argument on itelligence is a cultural trait not a genetic one. based on the jews. They are rolling with math, for a long time, and dealing with profit, debt and economy related stuff because for them, diferently from christians covet is not a sin(10th commandment of christians). So while christians were afraid of getting profit right, jews were rolling on money based on calculus level of math. nowadays christians are butthurt because jews are smart and rich and they cant trace it back to religion as a cultural trait that pushed them forward to a better place in the iq table. Even a hue monkey knows that man.
>>74361514
not completely, geography, climate, situations and dangers (flooding for the Dutch) shape cultures
>>74361693
>Intelligence has both genetic and enviromental influence
Again, the genetic influence is prevalent. The environmental influence determines how well you will utilize your potential.
>>74358798
Indeed variations of IQ among groups cause social stress. I believe the best solution is to wait-it-out while researching genetic therapy to increase IQ. When a genetic solution is found, we should work on improving the IQ of the lower halve of the distribution.
Of course this could be a bad idea as well. For what would keep people on the higher end of the IQ distribution from using the genetic therapy on themselves.
>>74361772
The problem with the Jews is that they went so far into the profit mode that they forgot about morals.
You need morality to have a cohesive civilization. Without it, everything goes to shit and thus IQ goes down the drain. Just look at the niggers. No real morals, just pure violence. Hence, the dumbass niggers. If they had morals they might be able to build a civilization, but they don't. Thus, Detoilet, Chicongo, and Africa.
The Christians had morals, the Jews didn't. Who built the modern world again? Oh yeah, Christians.
>>74362031
heuheueheuheuhe imagine if changing the inteligence genes will also make black people white.
>>74358798
IQ grouping is good for social cohesion and the democratic process. It's never fun being the one smart person in a room full of dunces, or even the reverse. Intelligence grouping, I think, determines the style of government a society adopts.
>>74362103
still jews are the top ones on the IQ tests bro. check your argument gain. i dont know much about it but i think jew genetic code is mixed as fuck since they are everywhere in the world and fucking outside the jew comunities.
>>74361723
Plato's Republic also expounded on a system like this in order to raise children.
>>74361772
Surely you aren't this retarded... Mathematics of finance were very simple a hundred years ago and there isn't that high of a proportion of Jews in finance to make a difference...
Europe got mad because the Jewish IQ is higher and they believe in religious nepotism. Most victim groups of genocide/persecution have had high average IQ's. It's because the less intelligent group believes in your shitty equality theory. This means they can only explain the other group's success as some unfair advantage instead of intellectual superiority.
>>74362160
It can sure make them behave more white.
>>74362287
Plato was a commie. Fuck him, I'm sticking with Diogenes. That motherfucker knew the score.
>>74360892
>I don't know how reproduction works - the post
Just an FYI, people don't always have the eye color of one of their parents
>>74362292
>there isn't that high of a proportion of Jews in finance to make a difference...
well i was a firm beliver that jew controlled banks. im i wrong in this ? is Rothschild stuff is bullshit? Soros isnt that important. i see. now. i think you are mad.
>>74358798
>If group IQ is genetic, what is the best way to deal with group differences in the world? should we start an aparthied of different groups?
No, we should genocide the lesser races.
Whites, Japs, Koreans and maybe a couple million northern high caste Indians can survive and breed.
>Are IQ groupings more important than ethnic/racial classification, IE should people be divided(individually) into different IQ groups in society or different races in society?
In a perfectly merit based society yes, however given the large interracial differences in IQ and the massive benefits to be reaped from racially homogenous societies (greater in-group trust being primary) it makes sense to genocide the blacks even if we cull a few genius Herman Cain/Thomas Sowell types here and there and leave alive some white working class types (trailor trash and the lowest rungs on the white IQ ladder need to be taken care of in their own genocide but there does need to be a certain layer of intelligence inequality baked into the societal pie- elsewise who's going to work at the warehouses, retail etc.?)
>And finally, what is the best way to improve a group's IQ? I have heard of eugenics(obviously), but have also heard of methods like seed selection, that seem much less destruvctive
Eugenics and education.
Here's a good book I read on the topic recently http://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-How-Get-Schools-Cultures/dp/0393337693 it deals mostly with childhood education so far as IQ acquisition goes but its a good book nonetheless; a little blue pilled but willing to talk about racial differences in IQ without the standard knee jerk liberal caveats which I found refreshing.
The bell curve is also a great book- a little dry and repetitive but worth the read.
>>74362614
Morgans and Rockefellers are Rothschild tier.
Buffet and Simons are Soros tier. Actually, they're both way ahead as the two most successful investors.
There are many more successful investors and banking dynasties that weren't Jewish. You've just cherry picked two Jews to feed your weird conspiracy...
>>74362570
FOR REAL? what I meant is that I am the only one in my entire family with extraordinary IQ. My mother's father was the only intelligent member of my family that I know, yet he had 7 sons and of all 16 cousins we are I am the only one with high IQ
>>74362103
The Jews have a huge IQ advantage, and they use their IQ to suppress the IQ development of other groups. It's no surprise that some time in history, they realized that having a larger IQ was the best strategy to getting ahead in life, so why give other groups the change to improve IQ?
They don't let people from outside their group marry and bread with their own. They even go so far as to changing the environment to keep gentiles in the lower distribution, and keeping themselves in the upper distributions.
(e.g. Jews promote the welfare state, while handling their own resources privately. They can do this because they control most of the positions of power, which require high IQ, wealth and education.) It's a run-away group IQ gap.
>>74360651
How can I say its genetic because a nigger like you decided to pick a study done in france instead of Brazil where their was actually a racial diversity in 1999
>>74363070
that's just shitty luck
their kids, if they have them, could still end up very smart, while your kids might turn out to be dumb as a rock
this stuff has been studied though and on average, in large groups, smart people make smart kids
>>74363048
im not even a conspiracy inclined person. i just see that jews suceeded with their values on the western civilization. We should try to learn something about that and stop being butthurt. just be practical. I wish i was born jew and fed math and logics from day one.
>>74358798
There are already clear division of race by IQ
yellow > white > brown > black.
>>74363109
shut up and take my argument or you will eat bullets you sac of fat.
>>74358798
>If group IQ is genetic, what is the best way to deal with group differences in the world?
National socialism
>>74361060
>anti-Jew conspiracies
they are legitimate because their success is also a strong byproduct of their wangling and collusion
>>74363101
And then Karma swings around and they get annudah shoah. We're about to see it happen again, it's a cycle. They take over everything, then they just get absolutely shoah'd. It's nature, the smart get arrogant and then they get humbled good and hard.
For all their intelligence, you'd think they'd learn from history. Too bad they don't seem to. Must be the "chosen people" narrative that suppresses the logic centers of their brains so hard.
>>74358798
130 for me
>>74363427
Not really, >>74363101
ask a genius anything
>>74361225
>hard cap on what some people can work with intellectually.
Knew a guy with a MA in math. He told me he had reached his "limit" and was looking for other career options. He explained it as "either you get it or you don't" and that no level of effort can push you above some thresholds when it came to higher level math.
>>74361398
Biology is more important than culture. It's the basis for culture. How could it be any different?
>>74359875
I've heard that it's somewhere around 70% - 80%
>>74363530
> For all their intelligence, you'd think they'd learn from history.
Actually, the elite Jews are quite aware of it and benefit from it Every time they get kicked out, they gain more "victimhood," which can be used to exploit guilt complex (which they also implanted by media and education), justify their decisions in power. And they don't lose wealth, because their wealth is distributed over many countries.
>>74363572
My vision of national socialism is not bound by anti-Jewish sentiment, or anything established by Hitler in general.
Little known fact, Hitler did not invent national socialism. He just incorporated it.
But if we forget that loud Austrian, a new national socialism could become the ultimate in democratic, nationalist, and equal rights organizations.
>>74363986
>He explained it as "either you get it or you don't" and that no level of effort can push you above some thresholds when it came to higher level math.
Yeah that's basically true. Higher level math requires lots of abstraction (something most people lack) and critical thinking. If you don't have the necessary brainpower, you will never get it. It's really just as simple as that.
>>74358798
I have 140
Fuck I love being a genius
Im so awesome
>>74363986
Math is the least of your problems. Mudslimes are about to rape the lot of you and yet you just bend over. God it's sad to watch a once proud nation just bend over for nigger dick. Your people disgust me.
>>74358798
Top 0.1% here.
Feels fucking good desu
>>74361772
>i will stick with my argument
>jews were rolling on money based on calculus levels of math
you stupid motherfucker
>>74360651
Wow, you actually mean to tell me that if you take an abused neglected malnutritioned 4 year old who is consequentially retarded and actually feed him a little so his brain grows then 10 years later he isn't AS retarded? Shocking. Furthermore if he is fed more so his brain can develop closer to his genetic potential he is slightly less retarded?
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>>74361787
then explain the sub-saharan IQ in terms of climate, situations and dangers.
>>74358798
How Jews raised their average IQs by ~15 points:
>Restrict mixing of genes
Jews are only allowed to marry other Jews, meaning that is almost impossible for inferior genes to be introduced into the population once they are eliminated.
>Make literacy and education a requirement
all Jews were required to learn to read so that they could worship from the Torah, whereas Christians were discouraged from educating themselves. This meant that a lot of Jews who were too stupid or couldn't be bothered to learn to read dropped out and became Christians, removing their shitty genes from the pool.
Eugenics works kids
>>74363530
Only they didn't actually get shoah'd by the Nazis
>>74364564
wellcome to the world of psychiatry/psychology where you have a disease if you have 5 symptoms for a month, but if you have the same 5 symptoms for a week you dont have it.
>>74364112
>Actually, the elite Jews are quite aware of it and benefit from it Every time they get kicked out, they gain more "victimhood,"
This
>>74362270
so your argument that culture formed the jewish IQ is based on
> i dont know much about it but i think jew genetic code is mixed as fuck since they are everywhere in the world
you absolute stupid cunt
>>74364955
>Christians were discouraged from educating themselves.
that would imply they are still not doing the same shit.
>>74364755
even cuckposts on pol are becoming more pathetic holy shit
>>74365355
Not sure what you're referring to. I was particularly talking about the fact that Bibles were only printed in Latin and common people were only allowed to listen to them read by priests not encouraged to read them themselves.
>>74363255
It's really sad that you've just tried explaining away your intellectual failures instead of taking responsibility. The reality is the Jews are genetically smarter and you are just genetically dumber.
Please feel free to remove your genetic trash from the gene pool.
>>74365311
you are probably right hans. im an absolute stupid cunt. i would cut off my tail to be a jew if that would make me 140 + IQ.
>>74365695
actually im moving to australia. seems like its the paradise on earth and its easyer than moving to Canada. Seen you soon M8.
"Jews are smart because whites forced them to be their autistic nerd jobs for them"
"Blacks are athletic because whites bred them for slavery"
What's next, asians are submissive because they are afraid of whites dropping more nukes?
>>74366017
the only last one is true burgers. japs were not surrendering, and the nukes made them humble, and in acceptance of defeat.
>>74366017
>"Jews are smart because whites forced them to be their autistic nerd jobs for them"
But isn't this kind of true? Jews were banking for centuries.
>>74366160
burger came from a city in Germany...
Asians have always been more beta and submissive on average
>>74366312
thats what im saying. but niggers preffer to be butthurt about it and blame it on lack of morals or genetic shit.
>>74366312
the egyptians forced jews to be slaves why are they the most frail weak race right among asians and indians? If they are the most oppressed group in history why aren't they the best evolved form with the most muscles, height, looks, IQ, etc.
>>74358798
>If group IQ is genetic, what is the best way to deal with group differences in the world? should we start an aparthied of different groups?
>Are IQ groupings more important than ethnic/racial classification, IE should people be divided(individually) into different IQ groups in society or different races in society?
>And finally, what is the best way to improve a group's IQ? I have heard of eugenics(obviously), but have also heard of methods like seed selection, that seem much less destruvctive
the answer is Gas the Kikes
>>74366482
>the egyptians forced jews to be slaves
Pretty sure this didn't actually happen and even if it did they weren't Ashkenazi jews.
>>74365364
It's the only correct answer from an individualistic point of view.
>>74366589
5 shekels have been deposited to your Goldman Sachs account for this post
