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It's the owner not the dog.
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>>74357598
9/10 times this is correct
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>my pitbull wuz a good boi who didnt du nuffin, he was going to dog training school n shit, we need mo money fo mo treats
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>>74357598
They all innocent when they young.
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>>74357598
thats what they said about niggers, they were wrong about that as well
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>>74357802

Pits love their owners and will do everything possible to earn their owner's praise.

You can get a pit bull to be aggressive by constantly withholding love, and encouraging aggression.
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>>74357994
>you can get a black guy to be aggressive by constantly withholding love, and encouraging aggression

this is literally the excuse that "dindus in troubled neighbourhoods" use
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>>74357931
Just like niggers. they are all cute little monkeys then they grow up and rape.
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>>74357802

pitbulls are the dogs of peace

#notallpitbulls
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>its the owner not the dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FALaMhvHg80
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKDE_WxGQxQ

The dog is a fucking tank
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>>74357598
It's the host, not the pathogen.
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>>74358178
Good on the dog. That woman was fat and disgusting and trying to molest that little kid.
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>>74357598
its the memer not the meme
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>>74357598
Why are pitbull owners so defensive of their breed?
It's very replaceable. There's nothing unique about their temperament and they aren't cute. Just require them to be neutered and they'll be extinct in a few decades
No one will mind beside niggers who watch dog fights
It's like if the government banned glocks because of the explosion memes. Maybe it's unjust but really, glocks are shit anyway
Just get a different breed of dog
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>>74357598

I carry a gun for both.
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>>74358361
Shoot my dog and you'll have to deal with a grown man crying like a baby.
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>>74357598
Very true.

>>74357960
You see, it's funny because it is exactly the same problem with nigger.
>Niggers/dogs are inferior
>We have empathy for niggers/dogs
>We try to elevate them at our level
>We treat them as equal
>Niggers/dog become out of control, they vandalize the home, they are now agressive and dangerous

Honestly a dog requires one thing: a frame.
If everytime it goes beyond the pale you reframe it (gently but firmly) and you never change the dimesion of the frame (ie: being ultra strict one day and totally laxist the other) you will have a balanced, loyal and obedient dog after few years.
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>>74357598

That logic applies to all dog, except for Pit bulls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW1FDnhEyzo
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Best dog
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>>74358347
>Why are pitbull owners so defensive of their breed?

Because deep down they are aggressive, but expect everyone to be fooled into thinking they are kind and likable.

The owner choose the dog, remember this. You can know more about a person from their dog than from their words.
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zieg-heil!
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>>74358223
Holy shit, these people are useless. Can't they just hurl a bucket of water at the dog and then sock him in the head instead of patting him with a stick?
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>>74358499
hnnnnnnng
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>>74358626
>Be British lefty punk
>train Nazi dog as joke
>get arrested for hate speech

Only in Bongland.
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The dogs that are mean without being raised to be mean are almost always small breeds that are neurotic and high strung because they're genetic freaks. Cocker Spaniels are shit too but pits, shepherds are definitely nice.
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>>74358499
that's a lion
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Not all people are created equal just like not all dogs are created equal. The problem with pitbulls is too many people acquire them that aren't capable of raising them properly. If you want an easy to raise dog that lives to please then get a golden retriever. If you want a more difficult breed that offers other aspects go for an arctic breed (Malamute, husky, etc), pitbull, german shepard, akita, rott, beagle. The smarter the dog the harder it is to raise and the more prone they are to being mischievous or disobedient.
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>>74358754
This is true. If you look at bite statistics and correct them for the fact that most people can't identify a pit bull, it's overwhelmingly the little dogs that do the biting.
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>>74357960
No, we made that breed for a purpose and they are exactly what we intended. They, like any weapon or tool, are dangerous when handled improperly.

If blacks were made for a specific purpose we have yet to find it and personally, I think God owes the rest of us an apology.

I knew some people who bought a pit, they're not monsters or anything, just idiots with their fucking heads up their asses (friends of a roommate). While training the dog to come he would occasionally wait for the pup to come and then belt it in the face with a remote control. Just random as shit, the dog never knew if it was going to get hit or not but the poor, sweet fucker still came every that bastard called it. Because it's gotta be a tough dog, learn how to fight and so on.
They'll never have animal control called on them, they won't ever hurt him bad enough to have a vet raise an eyebrow, they feed him and take him to the groomers - they think they're good owners and that they're bringing that dog up right. Blacks raise their dogs like they raise their kids - violently and half assed and blacks just love them some pit bulls. That wasn't always their flavor though. In the 90s they ruined countless rotts and dobermans because those were the cool, tough dogs for a thug to have at the time.
These are the dogs that end up eating their 'wonderful and blameless' owners' faces. It's not obvious abuse, just constant abuse and shitty owners with no clue how to treat an animal.
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>>74358499
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>>74358499
LSGs are best
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>>74358223
would just have been shot here by either the police or "viltnemda" (animal control)
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>>74358808
Actually that is a Tibetan Mastiff. They can go for upwards of $100,000. They were bred to hunt lions.
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>>74357960

You can train a pitbull though. Niggers will always be niggers.
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>>74358458
>>74358458

I'd be shooting you right after the dog. you wouldn't have to cry
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>>74357598

There are two things about pit bulls which are not true of other dogs, however.

1.) the mauling: everyone has heard about this one I'm sure, some have speculated that the dog gets an endorphin rush whenever its jaws lock - regular dogs will usually bite and release an antagonist because they will want it to leave, not be pinned down.

2.) no telegraphing of intent: this is the one that everybody seems to have trouble with (including the OP), and this is a much bigger difference with other dogs, who will again start off with minimal effort, which is to threaten before striking.

People actually think that the second issue will somehow be fixed by a reputable, pure breed pedigree. On average, a pit bull is marginally more muscular and aggressive for a dog of its size, but so is a human boxer relative to other athletes. A particularly good boxer will be able to land punches before their opponent can react, and many who follow the sport understand it as a question of speed. Bruce Lee had a more gentlemanly notion of neutralizing tells in one's fighting posture. The pit bull, if true to type, will follow the second strategy.

Why not just require owners to take out surety bonds equal to the first copay needed for a major surgery to fix up a bite victim?
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>>74358976
I wish I had a dog like that. Having 0 friends would bother me no more
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>>74358178
> Wow. The lady was just asking for it. She surely provoked the dog with her laughter. We all know a golden retriever would've reacted the same.
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>>74358639
>everything they do and the dog won't let go
>"hurr just throw water at it"

The proper response with a pitt is to shoot it in the head, slice its stomach open, or smash its skull with a sledge hammer.

Whether or not it's attacking.
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>>74357598
I agree, the animal is not to be held to any responsibility.

And being that all pit owners are niggers, white niggers, black niggers...whatever. The breed of the dog should be completely erraticated since most humans do not keep these animals in proper environments.

I'm sure there have been a few great dogs, that have been pit breeds. However it is o coincidence that year after year, the pit/bully breeds attack and kill more human than any other breed.
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>>74357598
It's 50/50

Owners play a major part but anyone who claims all dogs are equally nice should be shot in the head. Pitbulls were bread to be fighters, it's in their blood, they can be very nice dogs but they are triggered much faster then golden retrievers (to give an example)
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The only reason pit bulls have a negative reputation is because of niggers. Pits were once "nanny dogs" and seen as America's dog - then of course like everything else they touch, niggers ruined them due to fighting and "muh dick"
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>>74358499
"bear hunter"
whaat? dat's not true, at least not anywhere near here. Someone just gave it the name cuz big.
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>>74358976
Kangals are the best lion hunters
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>>74358857
>it's overwhelmingly the little dogs that do the biting.

Usually because people encourage aggressive behaviors from little dogs because it's "cute" to them.
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>>74358096
>Nigglets
>Good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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>>74357802

> implying pit bulls aren't trained to be aggressive

Criminally charge the owner then. I never saw a dog well trained attack a person.
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>>74359034
>first copay

Why should a health insurance company or their clients have to pay for a nigger dog?

* Surety bond for the full cost of any/all reconstructive surgery.

* The pitt owner has to put down his own dog after the attack.
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>>74359165
Where is your leaf?
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>>74357598
I wish they stayed that way forever.
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>>74358811
I thought that pitbulls were one of the dumbest dog breeds. Labrador retriever and pudel being the smartest.
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>>74359122
Russians use that type of dog to hunt bears
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>>74358347
1911 cuck fanboi detected
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>>74357598
It's a shame they don't see the correlation when it comes to guns.
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>>74359221
It burned up
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>>74358913
This, too much people act toward like dogs like if they were toys, when they are just the equivalent of a 2 yo kid with big teeth.

If it was about me you would need a permit to own a dog, something like 8 hours of how to educate your dog and especially what you should not do.
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Friend owns two pitbulls. Well behaved, never bit anyone.
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>>74359081
I clearly suggested to "sock him in the head". Like grabbing a baseball bat and knock the living hell out of that thing until it stops bitting the other dog.
I'm surprised how quick you are to throw banter and then pull out your inner psychopath in less than obe paragraph, also
>muh guns.
Why am I not surprised.
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>>74359009
Dirty philipino/filipino/pilipino are just as bad. Your language sounds like a turkey swallowing cock and balls
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>>74357598
It's hysterical how emotional and weak /pol/ is when it comes to topic that don't already have an established viewpoint and are not talked about
Just anything about masculinity and they go into a raging /fit/ because they're so insecure
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>>74359280
Pitbulls are surprisingly smart, sometimes its harder to see since they can be a titch ADD or spazzy. The biggest beef I have with pitbulls is the fact their head is made out of the hardest known substance on the planet and sometimes their motor skills aren't refined enough to keep themselves from smashing it right into you.
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>>74359474
>video where dog is hit over and over and over
>"just sock him in the head"

Get back to work on the wall.
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>>74358811
>The smarter the dog the harder it is to raise and the more prone they are to being mischievous or disobedient.

Damn, you are ill-informed. That is 100% false. The smartest breeds are border collies, german shepherds, bird dogs (incl. retrievers). Mastiffs and bulldog types are the dumbest. And I wonder which of these breeds are the most obedient and easy to train...
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>>74359336
Easy correlation... Pit bulls gone bad, usually kept by niggers.

Poor gun handling, and lax use of firearms...again, niggers.

Ban niggers.
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>Surprising how everyone forgets the real king of all doge, de Chow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oluspL7qPI
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>>74359908
nono what I mean is everyone says ban the guns, not the niggers
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>>74357598
owning a pitbull is to 2016 as owning an H2 was in 2006

both are roughly the equivalent of getting a tribal tattoo in 1996
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>>74357598

It's the both of your pieces of shit. Now fuck off.
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>>74358077

you're comparing niggers to dogs.
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>>74360122

They're equals you racist.
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>>74358581
This so much

Everyone who owns a pitbull is fucking scum, never met a normal person who owns one, always chavs and lower class people who use it as a status thing.
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>>74360171

no they aren't.
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>>74359986
stfu anon my tribal tatoos and puca shell necklace have been getting me laid for 20 years with no breaks
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>>74357598
Absolutely. Pitts are just a dangerous breed but if trained right they can be terrific dogs.
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>>74359973
>^5 - high five bro
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>>74360190
For what it's worth, every second episode of Judge Judy is some scummy person being sued over something their pitbull did to a person or another dog.
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>>74360190
>>74358581

What pisses me off the most is how these fucking owners make excuses for those pieces of shit. The whole "nanny dog" crap was some myth cooked up by a canadian in the last 40 years or so.

Only fucking retards own Pits. But there are different types of Pit owners. One is the nigger-like criminal. Two is the asshole who owns one to look tough. Three is the liberal hippie sjw who thinks they're misunderstood.
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>>74360402
shouldn't you be out buying cargo shorts or something
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>>74358938
Man, this is giving me a boner already. Imagine how much pleasure that dog's 10 inch penis would give to a woman.
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>>74357598
>cute puppies
its not like they grow into killing machines

here is a pic of an innocent animal , im sure it wont turn into the natures perfect predator
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>>74360554
I liked the one where judy ripped into the pitbull owners for trying to claim the pet duck their stupid animal mauled was a dangerous animal.

I would've shot the pitbull if i were an american and it just killed my met duck
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White pit owner, good dog. Loves people. /thread
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>>74359130
Also total qts
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>>74357598
I hate dogs, women and niggers all alike.
sue me, motherfucker.
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>>74360813
We're nature's perfect predator, should we kill all babies?
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>>74358913
/thread
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>>74359280
Border Collies are pretty much the smartest dogs ever.
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>>74359178
This
The dogs who attack people are either untrained or trained to attack
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>>74357598
>a gun shot someone
>a car drove drunk
>a shitpost was made without a faggot

American pit bull terriers are among the master races of canines bred to serve men. If you have a problem with them you're either a puppy strangling PETA member or another liberal cuck so immense a 60 pound dog scares you.

inb4 nigger dog owner: nah, german shepherd-labrador, probably get a bull terrier or staffordshire when it dies though
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>>74357598
Black violence is society's fault, not the criminals'.
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I hate pitbulls and their nigger/spic/white trash owners
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>>74360190
And the rest of pit bull owners are stupid libs who pat themselves on the back for getting a misunderstood dog from the shelter. There was an anon on /an/ who adopted a pit bull and after having it for months it decided to kill and eat his cat of 12 years while he wasn't at home.
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>>74357598
But that's true. Still breeds like pitbull are more dangerous because of their strength.
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>THE DOG DIN DO NUFFIN HE MAN BEST FREUND IT DA OWNER FAULT
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That's why they're banned or controlled in most of the civilized world?
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>>74360570
4th is the lesbian that owns one to get dicked by it. Very common in gay communities.
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>>74361005
we are far from natures perfect predator , tigers or animals like silverback gorillas are the perfect predators , they evolved to kill. Todays tigers are stronger than their ancestors
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If people were responsible they could handle these dangerous tools.

If people were responsible they would be able to comprehend that most people who own them aren't responsible enough to own one.
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I have been helping out at an animal shelter and there are alot of pitbulls. They're the best. fuck you guys they need a home.
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>>74358499
Probably has a six year average lifespan.

Poor thing
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>>74361747
They need discipline and direction, not just some negroid level fuckwit that needs their pet to be an extension of their self esteem, just because gassing them hurts your feelings.
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>>74361747

>The combination of molosser breeds, including pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, cane corsos, mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, sharpeis, boxers, and their mixes, inflict:
>86% of attacks that induce bodily harm
>81% of attacks to children
>89% of attack to adults
>76% of attacks that result in fatalities
>86% that result in maiming
>Embody 9.2%+ of the total dog population

>Even if the pit bull category was "split four ways," attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other dog breed.

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php
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Why do people love poverty dogs so much?
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>>74361342
The spic probably deserved it
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>>74359112
They were never nanny dogs bro, total myth.

I've known some pits that were good dogs with good owners, though.
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>>74360263
You're right, niggers and pitbulls are below all other dogs
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>>74362019
I don't really understand that pic. Are you saying you shouldn't care that that guy isn't killing anyone, and only focus on the ones who are?
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>>74362225
The picture is saying that that man in particular isn't shooting anyone right this second so it's okay to ignore black crime statistics.
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>>74362438
It seems to be making fun of that guy for pointing out that, while blacks commit a lot of crimes, not all blacks commit crime

which seems to be a totally important thing not to forget (yet which you guys seem intent on ignoring)
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>>74361747
All animal shelters are full of pits and half breed pits because the people who own pitbulls tend to be shitty. Pushing an very high needs dog off on people who are not suited to own such an animal is grossly irresponsible. They may be in need of homes but that doesn't mean ANY home is a good home for a pit. They need stability, security, strong owners who know how to raise a dog- they do poorly around strangers and young kids and even worse when being constantly exposed to new people or dogs.

They have needs.

Shoving them at anyone who walks into your shop is only ensuring that your shelter stays full of abused and unloved pits and is also helping to spread the idea that they are bad dogs. You wouldn't encourage every retard to buy a gun because guns need homes but you'll push a pit off on some dumb fuck looking for a first puppy and you'll think you're helping the poor dog while you do it.
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>>74362561
Holding black parents responsible for failure to teach their children personal accountability is racist, as you're undoubtedly aware.
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>>74362561
>13% of the population commiting around 50% of crime isn't a problem
You're just retarded, I see.
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>>74359421

>8 hours of dog class
>one of those no gf white guys who dresses up his dogs and puts all the pics on fb
>"but mah dog keeps me pretty busy"
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>>74362019
>Name a bunch of dog breeds that function as guard dogs and imply that they're somehow harmful to society

A rottweiler and pitbull are very useful for protecting your property. Cry about it retard. Dog control faggots are stupid baby losers.
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>>74362776
Except I didn't say that.
I'm not even sure where you got that notion. You might reread my post, and if you have an issue with anything I said (or even implied), you could bring that up instead of making things up entirely
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>implying behavioral traits can't be selected for and bred into a type of dog

that said, you can train any dog to behave itself

it just happens that most pitbull owners are niggers or spics who intentionally raise them to be vicious animals
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>>74357598

I literally killed a dog owner once who's dog mauled my sister.
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>>74360993
I am with you, my dude.
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>>74358223
How did they not just put their entire weight on the dog and put it in a choke hold? Would easily have stopped it
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My problem has never been about the dog breed.

The problem will always be their nigger apologist owners, and TV shows which spend more time focusing on the hardship these dindudogs face than teaching people how to raise them.
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>>74362822
The problem is people who own these dogs and think they're loving family pets and then are surprised when they maul their kid to death. I have no problem with people using pits and other dogs for their intended purposes and protecting their property.

>>74362892
Looking at people individually is important, yes. But statistics are just as important. No one is saying all black people are bad, but the high rate of violence present in their community reflects a problem with it.
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>>74362983
how are you not in jail?
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Dogs of peace
Not all pits
Religion of barks
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>>74363080
Except it does seem like you are saying looking at people individually is not important, when you use a picture that ridicules someone for looking at an individual individually.

What's to ridicule about someone doing that if you think it is important to do?
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>>74363154
The picture in question depicts what is a man trying to ignore black crime statistics and using a random black man who is at that point in time not commiting a crime to prove his point. This shifts the point from the picture at large to an individual, when statistics are about a community as a whole. It's ridiculous and should be ridiculed because they're attempting to shift the subject of the conversation entirely instead of bringing up a valid objection. You sound like you haven't been on /pol/ very much.
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>>74363128

Long story, told it on /r9k/ about 6 months ago. He isn't even officially dead but still a 'missing person' and has been for a few years.
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>>74363388
It strikes me that, in that picture, the man acknowledges the statistics on the front end (I gather this from the part where he acknowledges that stat on the front end)

He then does shift the focus to that guy individually - the second part that, according to you, is important (yet ridiculous, apparently)

Maybe I sound like I don't go here much because I can read what a picture says.
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>>74363517
It's a part of a long set of satirical images that parrot what leftists say in arguments.
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>>74363517
Or maybe you're raising an objection over what is purely a mockery of the actuality of the situation.

The statistics are typically only brought up as a reason why we should urge the community to get invasive about teaching these niggers how to raise kids, instead of running around in a panic because you think ordinary people who are aware of this problem want to go around killing them indiscriminately.

MLK Jr's dream came true. Turns out a lot of black people are niggers. Lets do something productive with this enlightenment instead of being a crybaby.
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>>74363815
Do leftist say "just call the police"?

As a leftist myself, I would never say that.

I'm guessing it's part of a long set of circle jerk images where you post strawmen or ignore important aspects of arguments just to feel better about yourselves.

probably closer to right, right?
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>>74363468
>Forgetting the part in getting away with murder in which you dont talk about it on 'anonymous' Mongolian cavepainting internet websites

Cmon senpai i know your proud but dont be dumb
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>>74359130
best turk hunters too, turks kill these dogs for sport
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>>74357598
No, but pit bull attacks can be slowed by trying to breed the aggression out of them. Also, golden retrievers are the most reported for biting someone else.
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>>74363946
What are you even talking about? The statistics are brought up to explain why we should kill all niggers or they should be forcibly deport or just to explain your worldview.

I was only questioning why you would think that viewing people as individuals is ridiculous.
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>>74364008
I've actually heard it expressed as, "lets keep guns in the hands of law enforcement," many times.
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>>74358178
>this dowg is goin to da fuckin pound
Kek sounds like they've been raising the dog like shit. You can't just have a pit and not be tough on it and expect it to be non-violent. She was yelling and stood up.
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>>74362730
And this is why having a dog is almost equal to having a child.

Sadly too many people see dogs as just another toy for the kids or something similar.
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>>74364196
Really, because I (and all of the leftists I know) would be more likely to say "let's take guns out of the hands of law enforcement too"

or really, I just don't say anything about guns and am internally gleeful when one of those people's children kills them or themselves with their own gum (real talk right there)
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>>74357598
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>>74358499
>Based Bouvier's
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>>74361342
moar pls
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>>74364388
holy shit i lol'd
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>>74364008
Not a circle jerk so much as things that have actually been said in arguments. There are ways one could argue against black crime statistics or at the very least explain them such as bringing up poverty and culture, but some leftists opt instead to focus on appealing to personal feelings and emotion.
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>>74364322
>"let's take guns out of the hands of law enforcement too"
Do you actually believe that's possible or do you actually form your political views based on candyland daydreams?
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>>74364554
I actually believe this. But what I actually actually believe is "whatever, I hope their kids kill themselves with their guns"
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It's not the dog, it's the guiding system for it (human owner)

It's not the radical terrorist, it's the guiding system for it (islam)
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>>74364434
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>>74364602
you want to disarm the police?
all of them?
should the military be disarmed as well?
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>>74364519
Looks like a purposeful misrepresentation of things someone might say. Which it is, obviously.
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>>74364602
>I actually believe this.
Then you need to get the fuck out before your failure to acknowledge your rights gets a barrel in your face, son.
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>>74364686
Maybe not disarmed, but much less funded and celebrates.


Honestly, neither of those groups serves my interests in any way, yet I pay for them. I would rather spend that helping poor people.
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>>74364751
what are you even talking about, dude?

you people are so desperate to be in a movie; it's pathetic
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>>74364705
It's not a misconstrution when it has actually been used in an argument. You may have not personally seen it but as someone who regularly browses Tumblr I've seen a lot of bullshit being argued by the far left.
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>>74364795
so you don't believe in a person's inherent right to self defense?
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>>74364421
Anything you want mein freund
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>>74364957
What do the military and police have to do with your right to self defense?
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>>74364322
That's not how northeast liberals think
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>>74364869
One of my duties as a citizen of this country is to protect its constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic.

You've expressed the intent to undermine the constitution. You're an enemy and a coward. This is the stuff movies are made about.
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>>74364949
Even if that were something someone said, I still don't understand why what is said in the picture in question is worthy of ridicule. Rather, it seems like an important aspect of the discussion to keep in mind.
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>>74365075
movies are made about all sorts of things

all sorts of things apart from fat, delusion neckbeards with fantasies of being in a movie, of course
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>>74365144
The Second American Enlightenment is just around the corner, and mockery doesn't disarm people.
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>>74365013
I didn't say they do, but if you believe a person has the right to defend themselves, then they should be able to defend themselves with weapons. If people have access to weapons them so do criminals. People who enforce the laws have to do so against people with weapons.
and the military generally fights other people with weapons. I do agree that there is a lot of unnecessary spending in the military though.
>looking at you F-35
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>>74365096
Again, it's ridiculous that they talk about individuals when the subject is that group of people as a whole. Somehow you keep glancing over that.
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>>74359009
>Implying they can't be tamed.
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Sarplaninac aka Kebap-Removal-Dog
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>>74365231
The problem with police self-defense is that they are, in most cases, the instigator.

>>74365385
I would have thought that the subject was black criminality, in which case it is important to discuss both (as the guy in the picture does; as you profess to think is important, as you ridicule the guy in the picture)
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>>74364602
Yeah, well I hope you have your cock cut off before being sodomized and murdered by a nigger.

Gunless faggots deserve neither respect nor life.
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>>74365463
I wouldn't say most cases, but in enough cases that it's undermining public trust. I'd like to see more body cameras personally.
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>>74357598
>it's the gun, not the owner
>it's the victim's fault for being racist, not the robber

Love how libcucks flip flop over all these issues
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>>74365583
so would I

the police don't want that though (god knows why). maybe we should withold their guns in exchange for body cams. neither or both

I certainly don't think we should give guns to people who consistently evade accountability
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>>74364241
Lol, because yelling and standing up would totally provoke a golden retriever. There's a reason these dogs are banned in so many places.
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>>74365583
Well, it's obviously most cases, right? I mean, criminals aren't seeking violent confrontations with the police/
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>>74365452
That is a very lovely bear.
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>>74365779
actually, most aren't
those that do get got, and the cop's good name is cleared.
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>>74365891
Well, no, in most they are

I mean, restraining someone's hands is violent. Surely, if I did that to you, you would say "get the fuck off me, faggot"
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>>74365779
I do not seek a violent confrontation with any free man.

Redcoats and pussies better get to stepping, though.
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>>74364289
A child can't violently maul an innocent person to death tho.
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>>74364388
Kek
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>>74365979
I probably wouldn't give you a reason to violently handcuff me. Most daily criminal acts police encounter are petty in nature. Traffic violations, littering, ect.
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>>74365096
What aspect is that? We're not allowed to make and warn against accurate predictions when your fee fees get hurt?

Christ. No wonder everyone has fucking AIDS now.
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>>74365452
Beautiful breed. How many thousands do these beasts cost?
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>>74366152
That's not the point. My point is that, sure they should be able to use weapons in self defense,

But they do things that you or I would never do. They initiate violent conflict and then want to use self-defense. For me, the best self-defense is not initiating violent conflict
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>>74366203
please just read the thread
this has been made crystal clear
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>>74365452
I saw a video not that long ago where they staged a fight between a sarplaninac and a pitbull, and the pitbull was absolutely destroyed (and killed). Pretty satisfying after seeing so many videos of pitbulls tearing up small and/or non-aggressive dogs.
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Basset Hounds are the GOAT doge. France is the greatest ally for breeding that dog
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>>74366256
>that you or I will never do
speak for yourself
And yes, of course police should be able to defend themselves. Hopefully the cameras will show that the suspect was acting violently and the officer(s) where acting in self-defense.
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>>74358077
but this is true
i raise and train pitbulls, as long as i spend time with them daily they wont nig out
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>>74366439
But again, even if they were acting violently, they likely were doing that in response to violence initiated by the police.

Because, again, criminals don't want violent confrontation with the police.
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>>74357598
Good Job
>wops are the niggers of white people
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>>74366256
>For me, the best self-defense is not initiating violent conflict
You know what happened when Redcoats came over here and started trying to tell people they aren't free?

We fucking shot them in the face.

And thus the American Experiment began.
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>>74365144
Hmmm...
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>>74366590
I'm not really sure what you're on about, but suffice it to say that I would rather you folks have guns than the police.
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>>74366557
then we better watch the whole video to find out, eh? and if that's the case the police should be held responsible
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My neighbor has the two most loving and nice pitbulls ever. They listen so well and wanna lick you all over. They're desperate for love too. The fucker doesn't take care of them well. He lets them wander around the neighborhood and the old ladies want them put down because they'll wander around their yard. They even took him to court because he refuses to do anything.

I hate to see two good dogs get taken away or put down because their owner doesn't give a shit. Poor dogs.
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>>74366742
I think you're not understanding. The act of arresting someone is initiating violent conflict.

If I were to do the same to you, you would defend yourself. Why give the police guns so that they can initiate violent conflict and then use the guns to "defend themselves"?
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Except all dogs have shitty owners. You're making excuses for the Dindu Nuffins of dog breeds.

Although I concede that the Pit Bull breeds does attract a certain kind of asshole... but so do Rottweilers and other types of dogs.

Just admit that Pit Bulls are genetically predisposed to being aggressive and that with proper and knowledgeable pet owners they can be good dogs.

It's the same way that a Nigger will thrive with white parents or in a white environment with black parents.
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>>74366819
Poison them before this ends in disaster.
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>>74366871
so no one should enforce laws?
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>>74367057
Maybe someone should. I certainly don't trust the police to do that job, though.
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>>74366943
Honestly, I'm kinda waiting till the dog catcher gets them and going down to the shelter to adopt them myself.
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>>74366871
are you saying the police shouldn't arrest people
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>>74366248
I dunno. I just know this based croatian from youtube, that breeds them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQrE8d8-kB4
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>>74367140
I'm just saying that doing so is initiating violent conflict. And so, the justification for using a weapons (which is a person's God-given right to defend him or herself) doesn't really apply.
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>>74357994
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>>74367163
more epic video of a kangal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YJTbRHLds
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>>74357598
A lot of black and Latinos should never have dogs. Not just pits but just dogs in general. Most blacks don't like animals and can be very cruel to them out of fear. Latinos like animals but too can be cruel to them. Both are neglectful to their pets far more than whites. You treat an animal well and understand how they function mentally and they can be tamed. If you're a dumb thug in the ghetto who has a pit as an accessory and treats the dog poorly yeah they're going to break loose and probably hurt someone.
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>>74367205
what if the criminal is being violent
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>>74358639
Pitbulls actually don't have the same kind of frenzy-guard thing in them that regular dogs do.
When a regular dog gets too excited it'll shake and sometimes even convulse and vomit. This is a counter measure for them going apeshit like pitbulls do.
It's the reason that pitbulls have a special little crowbar like thing you wedge into their mouth to get them to release their bite.

Pitbulls can be bred to be really good dogs by expert handlers, but they'll still always have that problem. In short it's both the handler and the breed that counts, not just the handler.
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>>74367368
If they initiate the violence, then obviously he should defend himself.

What's a problem though, is if the police initiate the conflict (which they always do) and then use guns in "self defense" once the other person defends himself from the officer's use of violence.
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>>74357994
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2011/08/darla_napora_pregnant_pit_bull.php
>Despite mauling his pregnant wife to death, Greg Napora still plans to have the pit bull’s ashes buried with Darla
Why are white such cuks?
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>>74367205
If you come up and grab me I have no idea who you are or what you are doing.
If a cop grabs me, uniformed or identifying themselves, it's understood that I will have a chance to clear things up.
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>>74367475
I don't give a fuck if I know who you are or what you're doing. Keep your hands the fuck off me.
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>>74362019
my newfies are also molossers I believe, however they are known to be extremely gentle

checkmate atheists
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>>74367231
That'll happen when you own a fucking pack of dogs that you aren't the leader of. Let me guess, single mother no father in the home?

Nope, even better - 3 dogs owned by his 24 yo sister who put them in crates when she went to work. Wonder what they were mad about.

http://www.exhalenaija.com/9-year-old-mauled-to-death-by-sisters-bull-dog/
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>>74359030
to good health? this demonstrates very little appreciation of the value your own life aswell.
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>>74367658
>3 dogs owned by his 24 yo sister who put them in crates when she went to work.
That's pretty fucking dumb of her.
You don't put big dogs in crates like that. They need to roam. Also 3 pits. That's a mistake I see a lot of white people make. Having too many pets at one time, mainly dogs, which is the worst thing you can do if you don't have the time and means to care for them.
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>>74359030
This conversation sounds like FREEDOM being born.
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True.
However when the owner fucks up some breeds cause more damage than others.
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>>74357598
If the dog does attacks kills another dog or human being, the owner should be put down with the offending dog.

Problem solved.
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>>74367140
> leaving pits around newborn infant
I love pits but know this: never leave any dog around infants.

> cropped ears
Fuck this shit. Animal abuse.
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>pitbulls are more likely to be aggressive and dangerous
>obviously not all of them will be

>other dogs are less likely to be aggressive and dangerous
>obviously some will be

fucking rocket science isnt it
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