>Singapore
>highly nationalised economy, things like Singapore Airlines are government owned
>highly capitalist economy, city full of skyscrapers
>Hong Kong
>massive free-mark approach
>highly capitalist economy, city full of skyscrapers
Can somebody explain this shit to me? I'm not even trolling, but I've always associated nationalisation with socialist, labour focused policies. In the UK it's the left-wing parties like Labour and the unions that want to nationalise and hate despite privatisation, whilst freeing up the market is a right-wing policy associated with capitalism, business-friendliness and entrepreneurship.
So why does the image of the city of Singapore reflect massive capitalism if everything is nationalised? The two aren't linked after all?
>>74277298
They're not owned by the government. These are mostly private entities, which the government buys shares in using sovereign funds.
We're also a popular springboard into Asian markets, similar to Hong Kong (because of our passports and English speaking majority).
We're also a tax haven, so corporations love to park their money here. Sometimes they like it so much they build their own sky scraper.
>>74278427
>which the government buys shares in using sovereign funds.
Singapore is big government though unlike Liberarians who claim small government is the only way best for capitalism. imo Government should intervene to make free market more competitive
>>74278427
>They're not owned by the government. These are mostly private entities, which the government buys shares in using sovereign funds.
So they are owned by the gov?
>>74277298
Lee Kuan Yew and his son are fucking smart, that's why.
>>74278641
>more competitive
sorry, nope. Government backed companies have disgusting monopolies here and it results in inefficiency. Cronyism is a pretty big deal in Singapore. Without government support, you're very likely to fail as a business.
>>74277298
Capitalism has nothing to do with gov intervention.
>>74279014
Yet singapore is a beacon amoung massive poverty
singapore and hong kong are both in privileged positions as trading ports.
>>74277298
what system you follow is less important then the percentage of your people who believe in the system
when a countries people work together they can do great things regardless of what they call the idea
>>74279112
https://thehearttruths.com/2014/04/27/singaporeans-have-the-lowest-purchasing-power-among-the-developed-countries/
I'm sorry, come again? Fancy buildings don't mean shit.
>>74279192
Ingapore was only something after the British made it, to. The same with Hong Kong.
For example, Mallaca was a historical major trading port, before singapore.
They are the way they are now because they were made so. Not because of some random luck
>>74279022
t. alberto barbossa
>>74279377
And now compare singapore with the Malasya, Thailand, Brunei, Vitnam, Laos, Indonesya...
It's unfair to compare singapore with western countries, because singapore is still filled with shitskins
>>74277298
The examples of Singapore and Hong Kong show that there is no one economic system that is better than all the others. A state controlled economic system can be just as successful as a market system if the people in charge are highly adept at their jobs and technocratic. This is why countries like China, South Korea and Japan have gotten rich. Not by free market policies but state direction.
>>74279564
I guess being the best in the anus of the world is kind of a consolation prize.
>>74277298
looks like someone needs to be enriched
>>74277298
>Singapore
>Small island territory with access to global trade that doesn't have to develop thousands of miles of wasteland
>Intelligent, hard working citizens who believe in building a future for their people
>Hong Kong
>Small island territory with access to global trade that doesn't have to develop thousands of miles of wasteland
>Intelligent, hard working citizens who believe in building a future for their people
>Japan
>Small island territory with access to global trade that doesn't have to develop thousands of miles of wasteland
>Intelligent, hard working citizens who believe in building a future for their people
>>74279377
Your island and people exist only to serve Western companies and men. Your own women literally think of you as disgusting, ugly, old-fashioned, while hunting for white men, who are refined, cultured and worldly.
>>74278427
But isn't Temasek 100% government owned, the sole shareholder?
>>74278641
>Singapore is big government though unlike Liberarians who claim small government is the only way best for capitalism
This is why I was interested in this. I was buying in to libertarianism as the best route for successful capitalism until I heard Singapore was very nationalised and had in some ways almost a socialist attitude.
>>74278992
So we shouldn't even be that worried about the concept of privatisation of the railway and such, it could be managed smartly.
>>74280440
>Your island and people exist only to serve Western companies and men.
and yours only exist to enrich the elite and the CCP
>Your own women literally think of you as disgusting, ugly, old-fashioned, while hunting for white men, who are refined, cultured and worldly.
So why are your women flocking overseas and marrying the first retiree they see? Please don't talk about cultured or refined when China is probably #2 in the designated street rankings.
>>74280507
Privatizing railroads is just fucking stupid and pointless. Industries with network advantages cannot really be privatized because they are natural monopolies. If one company builds all the railroad tracks, it's just not possible for another company to compete by building another set of railroad tracks.
>>74280728
>and yours only exist to enrich the elite and the CCP
Wow, brainwashed with Western propaganda as well. Not only are your women and jobs all going to white men, your entire culture and mentality is owned by them as well kek
>>74279739
>This is why countries like China, South Korea and Japan have gotten rich.
>Comparing yourself to South Korea and Japan
Wong pls. If anything, this would be the RoC, not the PRoC. Your country is artificially rich and it's going to collapse soon enough.
How about your government stop creating empty cities for the sake of looking productive?
Because both are essentially dictatorships and aren't weighed down by mountains and mountains of beaurcrats.
They just get shit done.
Singapore has one of the most open and free markets in the world, the fact that their government invests a little bit in one of the fastest growing economies in the world is a no brainer. The extent to which anything is nationalised is minimal.
>>74281019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
http://thinkbusiness.nus.edu/articles/item/118-tainted-milk-unravelling-china%E2%80%99s-melamine-scandal
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jun/11/china.internationaleducationnews
Yes, Chinese culture is soooo much better. It's beautiful what you can accomplish when you completely devalue human life
>>74281213
I wouldn't say they have one of the most open and free markets, they actually have a very strong police force and are essentially merciless when it comes to drug dealers and other criminals. Obviously this makes them a relatively clean and safe country and better to do business in, but some libertarian sperg will have to be all "HURR DURR THEY BAN CERTAIN VOLUNTARY EXCHANGES, NOT A FREE MARKET".
>>74281030
The 21st century is all chinese, burger boy.
>>74279564
gettin' a bit uppity there aren't we?
>>74277298
>Can somebody explain this shit to me?
All the heroin coming out of Asia goes through either Hong Kong or Singapore, and all the money along with it, and the governments and corporations in those two cities make sure to cut a slice before the goods head off to the western world. They're the last stop on the tour before leaving the Golden Triangle.
That's the dirty truth of their success.
>>74279564
do you ever actually leave your home?
>>74281483
Don't forget over 5000 foreign entities as identified in the Panama papers
>>74281242
How many white guy asian girl couples do you see in singapore everyday?
Your singaporean culture is worshipping white people. Your city's founder is literally a colonist called Raffles. Your political and legal system is all white.
>>74281188
Even calling them a dictatorship is a bit much. They have a legitimate opposition, they just have incumbent advantage, so the country isn't constantly flipping between two opposite agendas, which honestly is a much more sensible set-up. I really need to read up on Singaporean policy, all I really know about is the whole mandatory minority intergration and top class financial institutions.
>>74279564
As if you were any better, Alberto Barbarossa.
>>74281637
>How many white guy asian girl couples do you see in singapore everyday?
If you actually allowed more white people into your country, I won't be surprised to see the same thing happening. Your women are already marrying foreigners at the first chance they get.
>Your political and legal system is all white.
How is following China's political and legal system a good thing? It's deplorably corrupt, much worse than Singapore. Your legal system is a complete joke, and your politics puts any of LKY's heavy handedness to shame.
>>74281748
>legitimate opposition
hehe, in the 2011 elections they got 40% of the vote but only 7% representation in parliament. Thanks GRC system.
>>74281637
>How many white guy asian girl couples do you see in singapore everyday?
请问你自己有来过新加坡吗
我左看右看,这里的白人大多数都是约菲律宾女人
>>74281918
Well, unlike you we are smart, so we limit the number of white people in our country and put up high visa restrictions. We make sure Chinese workers get priority for good jobs and not foreigners (unlike Singapore where all the top jobs go to Western expats, while singapooreans get back office and janitorial work).
Even chinese women these days are proud of being chinese and do not lust over white men, like they did when china was much poorer.
Singapore would become a much better place if you accepted our help.
>>74281448
Not with the Trump dynasty it won't.
>>74277298
Singapore is right wing authoritarian, with a market economy. It has dirigiste economic policy and it's manufacturing and construction base relies on migrant labour.
In Singapore all land is owned by the Government. All of it!
There is limited "freedom" for the rich. Wage slavery for the rest. Same as here.
>>74281615
I'm not in home right now, btw
>>74281780
>insult him
>>74280311
>Bongistan
>Small island territory with access to global trade that doesn't have to develop thousands of miles of wasteland
>Retarded, lazy citizens who believe in building a future for other """people"""
>>74282315
>accepting our help
>yeah dude just let us completely militarise your surrounding water borders, building artificial island to redirect trade routes and we'll help you
>>74282168
>UKIP wins 12.5% of the vote
>Literally 1 seat in a parliament of over 600
Just to check that I've got the right idea, if the opposition did win and form a government, would the system swing into their favour?
>>74282262
No I haven't gone to Singapore, I have no interest.
I'm sure if you go to Western bars and clubs it is full of Chinese women and Western men.
>>74281748
That's why I said essentially a dictatorship.
North Korea is a democratic country but functions essentially as a dictatorship
>>74282315
>We make sure Chinese workers get priority for good jobs and not foreigners
那只是因为外国人要求跟高的薪水
so你到底来过新加坡几次了?
>>74281448
>The 21st century is all chinese, burger boy.
Only because of Richard Nixon and the CEO's of America outsourcing all our jobs.
>>74282777
no you dickwit
western men almost only date filipinas here.
t. Singaporean
>>74282867
i can't wait for trump to make america great again and tax chinese import
>>74282315
>We make sure Chinese workers get priority for good jobs and not foreigners (unlike Singapore
Jobs like what? Slave wages in factories that force workers to work more than 12 hours a day? I mean, Singapore is guilty too, but again, I'm glad we don't do it like you guys.
>Even chinese women these days are proud of being chinese and do not lust over white men, like they did when china was much poorer.
Lol, fuck off. There are already so many more men than women in China and yet they flock overseas to nab a husband. It's still happening!
>Singapore would become a much better place if you accepted our help.
No, we'd just have even more income inequality and become a degenerate society with no etiquette or ethics.
>>74282741
The government, yes. Though there are plenty of large corporations who in a sense would still be loyal to the PAP and they have considerable influence.
>>74282262
星加坡法律太麻烦。口香糖禁止、吐着禁止、大麻禁止等等。
Am I fucked if I try to work in Singapore without a degree? I'm marrying my sing gf once she finishes her studies here.
>>74283377
you have to have a degree to get a visa in both singapore and hk
>>74283377
Why not marry her and culturally enrich your country with a non-muslim?
>>74282973
wut. your white guys are almost all millionaires. why would they date filipinas?
I only spent about 5 days there, and my mandarin is awful, but why wouldn't a white guy date chinese gals?
>>74283377
Topkek, even useless brits with no degrees or jobs can get a singapoorean gf, while singapoorean men spend all their lives working like dogs and doing military service.
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!
>>74283611
i actually don't know, but when you walk on the streets and take public transport and go to the malls and whatever - if a white man has a lass with him, more than half the time she's filipina. the remainder half is equally split between having a white wife or any-other-asian wife.
>>74283377
stay in britain.
your future parents in law will probably fuck you over otherwise.
>>74283696
so why are you still a virgin?
>>74283696
Yes, because girls in China are so honorable. In fact, they're so honorable they'll only charge you 1/4 of the price of a local girl for a good sucky-fucky!
http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/the-sorry-state-of-unions-in-singapore/
This is really all you need to know. Singapore's economic system is similar to the fascist system of Mussolini. Unions don't have absurd power like in the US, neither in government nor in private sector.
There's no added bonus that a free market has if your culture highly values competitiveness and efficiency. The bonus of the free market is that competitiveness and efficiency are built-in, and required, but the culture of Singapore and the lack of unions essentially allows for the same amount of competition and efficiency.
Of course, the US doesn't really have a free market because of unions in the private sector and the public sector. And many Americans simply don't have a desire to make more money if it means hard work.
Let's say Singapore didn't have majority ownership over its airlines. What would be different? Probably not much. The same investors would be investing, except some would take the place of the government's majority ownership. The competition would still be there, because of shareholders deciding CEO and etc.
>>74282315
unfortunately even korea is becoming stupid atm. in 2006 there were 35k muslims. today there are 150k. the numbers are rising in japan too.
as soon as a country becomes prosperous it becomes ruled by fucking idiots because prosperity has the effect of masking problems, or making bad people look not bad because of technological solutions to their sins. e.g. the murder rate in america has dropped because we treat gunshot wounds better. we don't have FEWER people who would kill, but we have fewer murderers. it's an important distinction.
fwiw I'm planning on moving to taiwan and eventually the mainland beacuse I can't stand to see what happened to my homeland and america is fucked up now too. don't get angry if other people hold their stupid polished shit over your head.
china is the only modern nation taking an explicit stand for virtue and morality. be proud
>>74283534
She wants to be able to look after her elderly parents. I have no reason to stay here (mine are dead, sister married into a rich family and doesn't talk to me) besides my (IT) Job. GF/Fiance will be the breadwinner as she's a Chem Engineer
>>74283696
I have a job.
>>74283975
I'm aware of that risk.
>>74283975
>>74283997
Why are you guys so butthurt over China? Instead of just accepting that Singapoorean girls will do anything not to be seen with a Sing guy, you keep deflecting. The first step is to accept that there is a problem, otherwise you will never fix it.
The problem is "why do singapoorean girls hate sing guys so much?".
Any answers?
>>74284283
Without a degree, you must have some shitty working class job. Jesus Christ, how desperate are Singaporean girls to want to marry some white trash chav with no degree or money? Singapoorean girls are truly the shame of asia.
>>74277298
High IQ societies
>>74284431
I earn 26k. Not good, but not bad either. I was a NEET for many years so I've been playing catchup for the past 2 years.
>>74284352
we're not butthurt, we find you absolutely disgusting. stop shitting our parks and littering our country. go away.
>>74284283
what are your qualifications?
>>74284431
what the fuck is your problem with singaporean girls and their sex lives, Wang Li?
>>74284614
Just GCSEs, A-levels and some IT certs
>>74284727
Pay denbts and we may talk.
>>74284569
How did you meet this Singaporean girl? Which university was she going to?
>>74284727
How many sandwiches do I need for three Greek girls, Alexios?
>>74284352
You're the one living in a glass house throwing stones.
>"why do singapoorean girls hate sing guys so much?"
Why do you even have this perception? Have you even been anywhere in Singapore that isn't a clubbing district?
I can tell you haven't. I'm just matching your anecdotal evidence.
>>74284614
China is the new rich kid on the block. If we wanted to, we could buy up your entire little city. Those guys driving ferraris past your little bungalow? They are mainland chinese. Stay poor and sex-less singboy.
>>74281637
Barely see them at all. Also stop coming here
>>74284900
Do you have the bbc?
![dPLpLm1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XMgmLX8.jpg "dPLpLm1[1].jpg")
>>74285048
Of course. I'm part eggplant.
>>74277298
>economic freedom
http://www.heritage.org/index/
>>74284061
a government having large holdings over a company is better than direct ownership. the operation of crumbling public utilities in america, south africa, or india is a good clue to why.
shareholding is the best legal technology we currently have for delegating risk and responsibility.
>>74284979
Spoken like a true spoilt child of the Yuan percent. I guess money really can't buy class.
>>74284878
Met her online. She goes to a Russell Group (tier 1 University). She hates the fuck out of mainland Chinese. I can see why now.
>15% muzzie
>>74285317
None of them have been blowing themselves up or decapitating soldiers yet, so they must be doing something right.
>>74284431
there is nothing disrespectable about a working class job. it is an honest living that is part of a large system that benefits society.
btw try having sex ;-) it feels very good :-)))))
>>74284826
what cert is it?
honestly, it sounds difficult, you will probably have better luck either
>find a job in the UK that will post you here
or
>come here, do a lot of networking and connections and circlejerking, get job
i think you can make around 1.5k~2k SGD a month for your current qualifications working in the IT sector. the problem is jumping through all the regulations and requirements to obtain a work permit.
>>74284979
>Stay poor and sex-less singboy
in civilised societies, people have sex and get married because they feel deep emotional connections to each other. why are chinese men so fucking shallow? money can't buy love, and no matter how many times i tell this to a chinese man they insist otherwise.
Singapore = most open economy in the world & lowest birthrate in the world less than 1 child per woman
>>74285315
>tier 1 university
haha good one, there are only 5 good universities in the Russel group, cam, ox, lse, imperial and ucl. She probably goes to southampton, liverpool, newcastle or other craphole.
>>74285315
expat chinese just hate mainland chinese for the same reason white liberals hate white working class people. don't fall for the scheme. it's just a liberal ploy. most mainland chinese are kind and hardworking. I'm literally a jappo and 95% of mainlanders were still polite to me.
I honestly hope the rich chinese don't start sucking liberal muslim dicks and try to destroy their conservative counterparts in the mainland out of some stupid status game
that guy is obviously trolling you btw, you idiot
>>74285446
technically, ethnic chinese like me invaded this originally muzzie land. we sort of took over and conditioned and brainwashed them over time. anyway, the difference between malay muslims and middle eastern muslims is that malays are too fucking lazy to get anything done.
eh brudder, should we set up the bomb today?
>haaaaaahhh not today lah, tomorrow tomorrow...let's go smoke break ;)
(tomorrow)
eh brudder remember the bomb we need to set up?
>tomorrow lah, eh go smoke now ;)
>>74285746
>that guy is obviously trolling
he probably isn't. i have met actual chinese people like this in real life.
>>74285492
>there is nothing disrespectable about a working class job.
hahahaha
Well educated singapooreans with 2 years of military service literally getting cucked by white trash with no degree and low salary and this is all you can come up with?
>>74285625
She goes to one of the 5 good ones you listed. I'm not saying which one because I've already revealed more info than I should have throughout the thread.
>>74285989
I've also met singaporeans and rich whites who think it's okay for muslims to rape their women and suicide bomb, and they're just as if not more retarded than the ultra nationalists
you can't let the race become divided. as soon as it becomes a status signal to look down upon the mainland chinese, your race is dead, and you'll have to start worshipping oppression and suicide bombers. don't start.
>>74286239
That narrows it down to only 3 universities. I doubt it's cambridge so either Imperial or UCL.
So probably UCL.
>>74286239
Also, the job market for chemical engineers is dead because of the low oil price.
>>74286557
It'll pick up again in a few years I imagine
>>74286658
Maybe so, but that doesn't matter if she needs to get a job very soon. If she works outside of the industry, getting back in is impossible.
My sister goes to Imperial College and she said that this year was an absolute killer for oil company internships. She's going into finance (internship sales and trading at Goldman Sachs.
>>74286277
we look down on the mainland chinese because they are the total opposite of what traditional chinese values encompass to be good people. it's a chinese thing, we love our race so much we can't tolerate when someone who identifies as the same race is so shit i mean look at this guy here he's literally the shamefur dispray meme
>>74286427
you are shallow and you will never be happy
i'm glad you are a virgin, i hope nobody marries you, you are literally the worst of the cheap chinese 50 year old uncle stereotype.
What is state capitalism?
>>74286658
depends. activity is at a decade low. inventories have been building for 6 years straight, supplies are overstocked and retailers have full backrooms which they discharge via sales to try and fudge gaap accounting. baltic dry is at what? 700 fucking hundred?
oil price might NOT pick up. just something to think about. japan has invested in hydrogen, IF indonesia grows which is doubtful they will also be using hydrogen. china is relaly the only one growing right now but they won't suddenly displace the US and EU market in terms of volume or cashflow because of their monetary policies and coal.
so it might not. but go ahead.
>>74277298
>Can somebody explain this shit to me? I'm not even trolling, but I've always associated nationalisation with socialist, labour focused policies.
Your confusion is understandable. Right and left wing are not as clear cut as anyone likes to think.
Generally, capitalism is seen as right wing while socialism is left wing. On the other hand, nationalism is considered right wing and globalization/internationalism is left wing. People constantly accuse opponents of "not being xxx" like we're seeing in america right now. Donald trump is a good example since he's nationalistic for his people but has some socialized ideas on healthcare or taxes. People think a person who is right wing must have all typical right wing policies but this is obviously not true. You see globalists who promote capitalism and claim to be conservative but they're holding 2 opposite ends of the spectrum.
In reality, the economic spectrum is separate and distinct from the social and national one. This is why hitler was always accused of being right wing when he was nationalistic for germany, but he was also an environmentalist, vegetarian, feminist. It's not unusual for people to have different ideas on different topics.
>>74286954
I'm aware. white trash aren't traditional either, and rich white liberals imagine themselves to be the "true" inheritors of the european tradition. they're so truly european that even if the country is full of niggers and muslims, people get raped and shot in the streets, that they're so european that it's all okay...
ffs, just be careful. the mainland isn't nearly as bad as you think, you've just grown up in a bubble. keep the muslims and niggers out. liberal whites would rather associate with niggers and muslims than poor whites just because of the guilt by association they feel around poor whites.
it'll tear the chinese nation apart.
>>74284614
CCNA.
>>74286880
>My sister goes to Imperial College and she said that this year was an absolute killer for oil company internships
You mean they all dried up?
>>74287134
Sounds bleak.
>>74277298
There are other factors not covered in college economic courses.
The obvious: Singapore has an absolutely massive harbor. Its geographic location and huge harbor make it an ideal location for trade.
What no one who doesn't have tenure will say publicly: Singapore is mostly ethnically homogenous and they belong to a race capable of great achievements. Singapore could not exist in Subsaharan Africa nor could it exist in countries which are not ethnically homogenous - at least not for long.
>>74287502
Yes. Only the top students got internships at Exxon, Shell, BP etc. Most people had to find stuff in other industries. Finance is a top route at Imperial. Your gf will have to look outside of big oil.
>>74287502
it's a little bleak
business creation in the west is at an all time low because they're demanding businesses find a way to make a nigger the CEO. millions of people over hundreds of years couldn't teach niggers to read, and now they're demanding that our economic engine find a way to make one CEO or face regulation.
cool. goodbye economy. it was nice knowin' ya
>>74287795
Appreciate it, m8
>>74287478
we don't care if a chink comes from china or anywhere else, it has been proven that mainland chinese ARE that terrible. you cannot compare the mainland chinese to white trash - they are completely different. we can't "keep the muslims out" because we literally invaded this place, it was originally theirs, we actually statistcally outbred them.
nobody in singapore except old chinese men feel any sort of allegiance with the mainland. china is a slimy, unscrupulous, shallow, dishonest and and self-centered spoilt brat; exactly what chinese parents should teach their children to NOT become.
0% refugees here.
>>74288295
that's what liberals here say about conservatives. a nigger can murder an entire family and rape the bodies but is "reformable" and a victim of circumstance, but CONSERVATIVE news posts will say that white trash deserve to die (notice that white trash don't actually commit crimes. they're just dumb) but they deserve to die.
I SEE the kind of rhetoric you speak. and I'm TELLING you you're a liberal and you don't even realize it yet.
stop while you're ahead. china is bad, but it's not THAT bad. it's better than any major US city. one more generation and they'll be like you.
when you oppose your own ethnic group, politically your leaders will seek allies in subhumans. it happens in EVERY country. it's happening in fucking KOREA.
don't. do. it.
>>74279014
That's the point, you need to keep libertarian economy but stimulate business to cooperate with government.This is nat-socialism evolved into something smarter.
>>74283195
>>74282262
Stop with the runes, i wanna see the bantz.
>>74289662
there was no bantz
if you want to hear bantz accordng to your mental level, google some howler monkeys
>>74288943
no what the fuck
china is becoming an empty shell of a shallow materialistic society because they're trying to emulate the western model of success. shanghai is literally a stacey and chad den of degenerate sins. have you dealt with hordes of chinese tourists? it's like dealing with niggers hordes.
you're the liberal here, wtf are you going to tell me to do next? allow more black-money-washing mainlanders into my clay so that they can park more wealth here and push low income jobs into even lower spending power?
???
>don't. do. it.
am i supposed to respect anyone who types like this
>>74289662
i asked him if he's ever been to singapore
everywhere i look, i see white men with accompanied by filipina bitches
then the ameriburger spouted the typical "singapore no gum no spitting" blahblah.
>>74282315
Stop shitting in our MRTs first.
t.Overseas student.
>>74285492
What chances are there of getting a job in Singapore with a standard Biology degree?
>come here, do a lot of networking and connections and circlejerking, get job
How do you just "got there"? I'd have guessed you need a job first before you could go in to Singapore? Unless you mean on on the 1-month no-visa visit and pretend you're holidaying.
I'd love to move there but I see no entry and have no idea how to.
>>74279022
Oh Jesus, not this retarded Portuguese subhuman again.
>>74290443
I know a friend who basically came in on a tourist visa and found a job. An australian. Then your employer applies for a work permit for you. Hopefully you put a ring on your bitch and the paper work is done fast. Chances are it will be, the only countries that have a problem getting a visa for their spouses are indonesia, malaysia, vietnam, china and so on.
You don't even have to do networking or circle jerking, just apply for jobs and do it dilligently, you probably will get something, anything (even if only temporary).
>>74289972
Interesting.
>>74289972
they're emulating japan actually. not sure what makes you think is particularly western about their model of 財閥, I mean, I'm sorry, centrally planned finance export model
I'm calling you a liberal because the liberal model establishes intractable and arbitrary differences within a racial group in order to vault the power of the liberal side. the chinese are slowly repairing their morals. the racial unit is more important than whatever arbitrary morals have been shoved down your throat. but you are arrogant and you assume that EVERY little detail about your moral code is perfect and you take great pride in that. your morals aren't perfect, your pride is unfounded. CIVILIZATION builds comprehensive morals, not individuals. the state of singapore is not permanent. malays, indians, niggers, will all tear it apart if your morals aren't centered around your ethnicity.
>>74290940
> just apply for jobs and do it dilligently, you probably will get something, anything (even if only temporary).
Won't they look at a foreign applicant and presume it's far too much hassle applying for work visas and stuff for them when they could just give it to a citizen? I guessed this would rule out all jobs (particularly temporary or standard retail jobs) except skilled career-type jobs for companies and industries and such that are specifically trying to bring in "talent"?
I'm a different guy from the one with the Sing gf, btw.
>>74291689
Unfortunately (for us), because of the retarded state run retirement plan and the military reservist obligations on males, discrimination against locals isn't uncommon.
It is often cheaper to hire a foreigner, even if you have to pay levys, than it is to hire a local (since employers have to contribute a % to their "retirement" fund as well). In addition, foreigners don't have much of a choice and probably won't quit their job. Plus, any amount that they declare to be for your "lodging" can be paid back to the company under the table. So a law that has an income floor of 3000, would really only pay about 2000. But you'll keep quiet because you want your job.
You may not be able to find your dream job immediately but you -will- find a job so that you can apply for a visa or PR (which are issued quite readily).
can't believe I'm helping to cuck my own country. At least I can rest easy knowing it isn't a god damned PRC or a muhammed.
>>74277298
Because there's more than one way to skin a cat, all methods that work on paper are entirely feasible and workable, the crucial point is how DIFFICULT they are to work on a large enough scale.
Capitalism works best because everyones innate greed and selfishness is effectively harnessed at every level, the better you perform in an ideal scenario the more you are rewarded for your work, therefore everyone has a reason to continuously improve themselves in order to cut for themselves a bigger piece of the pie.
>>74292325
what % of foreigners have their assets domiciled in singapore for tax purposes? I'm assuming it's a minority, thus they don't benefit from your tax policy. it makes sense that someone need not serve if they don't benefit from your taxes
it's also cheaper for the company, but the individual doesn't recieve housing benefit, right?
anyway, thanks for telling that limey. I was wondering for a while why it was so easy to get semi-legal work in singapore
I'm talking shit on you right now but I really do like you guys. I just think you have a superiority complex that seems classic 1st world style. that's all.
>>74277298
Singapore is tiny , you have to build up the way.
>>74292757
>what % of foreigners have their assets domiciled in singapore for tax purposes?
I do not know, but it is not the individuals I am concerned about, though I'm sure they do it too.
https://thehearttruths.com/2016/04/07/panama-papers-how-singapore-is-involved/
> I'm assuming it's a minority, thus they don't benefit from your tax policy. it makes sense that someone need not serve if they don't benefit from your taxes
This is what Trump means when he says they treat illegals better than they treat vets (not saying our military compares to yours). Singaporeans receive virtually no hand-outs, I think the figure is literally 1% (only the very poor). So neither of us benefit, but foreigners are free to come here and take jobs away and depress our wages. It doesn't make any sense that the people who will inevitably take up arms for the country and who have sacrificed 2 years of their lives be treated the same as economic migrants.
btw i think you have me confused with another Singa-flag
>>74292325
I promise not to fuck up your country sempai, I want to go there to live peacefully in a beautiful city and I'm not interested in stealing Singaporean girls either :3 Britain is cold and fucked.
Guess it's time soon to start looking for my Starbucks/retail job so I can get a foot in the door to look for Biology jobs and start making visa/PR applications.
>>74293858
I was under the understanding that singaporeans mostly rented from state subsidized apartments, which means that even though people pay for their own shit, everything is below market price. I was under the impression it was a similar deal for healthcare.
I could be wrong. I looked at renting a few years back but it would have cost me 2k usd a month for what a sing citizen could get for 700.
>>74292325
Good good, singcuck. The white man needs good expat jobs to afford having sex with 5 different sing girls every week. Wining and dining isn't cheap.
>>74294553
you're kinda funny. but why are you so interested in making them angry/suffer?
I do it in singapore but I do it in china too, you know
btw, you guys should REALLY nuke guangzhou. what the fuck were you thinking bringing niggers there?
seriously, what the fuck? you guys are angry about this, right?
>>74277298
Singapore.
>Charges almost no tax, but owns shares in all the lucrative business so it makes money.
>Hong Kong, High taxes, high average earnings.
In either situation the government can make money.
Please keep in mind Hong Kong was a major British trading port for 100 years.
>>74294363
When you say rent, i think you mean "buy" from the government on a 99 year lease. It is true that singaporeans get grants for the purchase of state flats, but the amount is negligible unless you are dirt poor, in which case, you will probably rent a flat instead and work until you die.
These days, small 2 room flats cost at least 600-700k away from the city. We have the same problem as canada's cities, where rich chinese come in and buy everything driving real estate prices sky-high. Open borders doesn't help either.
The state doesn't spend shit on healthcare. Our state healthcare program medisave basically takes money from you every month and ... well... saves it. The money can only be used for your healthcare expenses, but it essentially is only your money. If you run out of medisave (which is easy) and you don't have insurance, you're kinda fucked. Quite similar to the USA.
>I could be wrong. I looked at renting a few years back but it would have cost me 2k usd a month for what a sing citizen could get for 700.
Foreigners can rent state flats through a subletter, only restrictions being quotas. So the price should be about the same.
>>74294814
Because singaporeans are very effeminate and submissive, but still think they can look down on others. They avoid confrontation with others and accept any kind of humiliation. I actualy want to help these poor people but they get too defensive.
Guangzhou is full of niggers but actually its a good thing because now chinese people know that blacks are scum people. Guangzhou people are very racist against blacks now. If not for contact with blacks, some chinese may think they are ok people.
>>74294553
Why can't the CCP censor /pol/ as well, you're just shitposting. You act like your people aren't being taken advantage of either. Only difference is they're rich and chinese.
>>74277298
singgapore sucks nigger´s dicks.
>>74295284
ah, I see, thank you
>>74295326
my perception was that china was attempting to shield the overseas chinese communities from muslims, but that the overseas chinese are too stuck up to accept it. overseas chinese act too much like american liberals. my ex girlfriend was a hakka who refused to learn mandarin and who looked down on mainlanders the way white libs look down on republicans. it was kind of annoying
>guangzhou
please kill the niggers. please. the rest of us are helpless. they're overrunning my country and the country of my parents.
btw I'm probably gonna end up living in taiwan. please don't kill them? they're just dumb and naive. please.
>>74295326
Hey, I'm just one man. I can't undo 3 decades of state sponsored SJW brainwashing.
Truth be told I actually respect China a lot for their hardline approach towards shitskins and foreign powers. But fuerdai cunts like you make it harder everyday.
>>74291035
>assuming i love my country
hahahahahhahaaha
the chinese will take a hundred years to repair the humanity within them. i'll be dead if i sit around waiting for it.
>>74291689
ohhh shit, singaporeans hate hate hate jobs that require you to get dirty, slimy, go in the sun, hard labour etc. pick one that requires education in any degree but is a job that requires energy and labour - can't think of any the top of my head, and they'll be happy to hire you, since singafags don't them.
>>74292757
>what % of foreigners have their assets domiciled in singapore for tax purposes
as if the state will ever publish facts on this. it's illegal and corrupt and is bad for our clean, pure, anti-corruption image. widening income gap is real though, like the other singafriend has posted.
>>74293289
we have mobile phone and wi-fi reception in the basement of malls :-))))
>>74294363
rent barely exists here unless you're foreign or rich. nearly everyone stays with their family. cos housing is so fucking expensive. plus you need to be married (or engaged - if single, you need to be above 35) to apply to purchase a new government flat, the cheapest purchasable housing option available. if you're not a married couple/a single person above 35 years old your only options are to rent, buy a used flat, buy private housing which are even more pricey
>>74294010
the singaporean girls marrying white men is just a meme
the asian girl marrying white men is mostly a meme desu. singaporeans are very reserved and shy, i'm literally the only weirdo in all my social groups who has gaijin friends [spoiler]and i have to constantly lie about how i didn't actually meet them off 4chan[/spoiler]. my other asian friends don't have white friends either, [spoiler]except this hong kong girl i added from 4chan[/spoiler]
we speak english, but aside from an occasional mixedblood-super-localised white kid, we don't really have white friends.
>>74292325
>Plus, any amount that they declare to be for your "lodging" can be paid back to the company under the table. So a law that has an income floor of 3000, would really only pay about 2000. But you'll keep quiet because you want your job.
Are you saying that a percentage of your wage would officially be given to you for accommodation (which you just give back in cash or whatever?)
Are there one-bedroom places to rent in Singapore that are in budget working full-time retail jobs and such? Or is the housing market too inflated for that?
>you -will- find a job
I took this to mean you can definitely find retail jobs and such working in malls and such, if that's what you meant.
>>74297037
That's exactly what I'm saying. But you may be able to find a job that pays 3K with no funny business. My australian friend did so, and he isn't a spectacular candidate by any means. Simple admin job, somehow worth 3k.
If you don't mind roommates, definitely. You'd have to travel, but the rail system is pretty comprehensive, albeit, it breaks down often.
hardest thing about IT is that you'd have to compete with indian migrants who are basically willing to do it for dirt and the indian managers at these firms are looking to hire indians only.
>>74297444
I'm the one doing Biology, so I'm more concerned about whether Singapore cares about life sciences much, and apart from pharmaceuticals and biomedicine I'm not sure they do.
>>74295085
>>74292644
So you don't think nationalisation would work in the UK? Because we're too large or because we're not ideological enough?
>>74298586
My girlfriend is actually doing life sciences too, and the prospects don't look good outside of pharmaceuticals and bio-medicine. So please, don't steal her job senpai
>>74285315
I hope you get cucked by bbc, you deserve it
>>74299428
Why ?
>>74298586
i know a french woman who is here because her husband is posted to singa for work. she's been looking for a job for half a year, and she's the one who told me about how hard she's trying to do networking because you can't get jobs without knowing people here lmao
she has a phd in pharmeceutical science, she found two or three jobs so far but they all involved sales and she only wants to do jobs where you actually concoct medicine, so she turned those down.
>>74300022
*uh, that's basically the only white person i know who lives here, and her english isn't very good so maybe she's just really fussy
this is all i know about white foreigners getting jobs here.
>>74299763
for having a asian race traitor gf whos gonna pump out some elliot rodgers
>>74301108
I'm not Jewish like Elliot's dad.
>>74277298
Isn't Singapore a capitalist utopia? It's ranked first in the Ease of Business Index.
>>74301809
Fortunately I don't base life decisions entirely on pol meme pics.
>>74302452
I'm half. it's true. for reasons relating to the methylation of the 14th chromosome, racial traits vary depending on which race is the father/mother.
every hybrid species has these issues, actually, which is why ligers/tigons are different, as are mules and donkeys.
for humans, there is something in brain development which is also screwy in racial hybrids more often than in background populations. you can actually tell what race an individual is by the ridge patterns in their brain.
not saying NOT to do it, as I am personally rather successful. but of my family that is mixed, more often than not htey come out a little screwy.
we also can't recieve bone marrow/organ donations
>>74302452
the world is a lot more complicated than most people realize. when little bits of truth trickle down, most people dismiss it as nonsense because it's incomprehensible to them. don't make that mistake.
kind of like a nigger saying in english class "yo cuz I aint never need to learn this shit nigga. twitter all I need to read yo"
>>74281448
That's just select few chink cities
>>74303643
>>74303884
Key word was "entirely"
>>74279022
State capitalism is an oxymoron.
>>74277298
This is an interesting thread. I wish I was able to make some wise conversation on this matter but I have to settle with watching everyone else. Just wanted to say this was interesting.
>>74284979
>mainland chinese
>>74283696
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagZ_ys76SA
>>74309055
I commend how much restraint he showed. I doubt I could have done the same without losing my temper.
