In the next 50 years.
>all driving jobs will be automated
>all factory jobs will be automated
>all retail jobs will be automated
>most of medical jobs will be automated
>most of the programming jobs will be automated
>etc. etc. etc.
What will happen then?
In the next 50 years we won't live anymore. Sad world.
>>74257172
Life will go on
You cant predict the future.
>>74257172
You'll still be a virgin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlV0Y5yAww
>hurr robots are going to take ur jerb
>>74257476
NO ROBOT SEX COUNTS AS REAL SEX TOO
>>74257476
>>74257524
You don't need a robot that perfectly simulates a human to replace your job.
Do you see a humanoid robot driving google car?
Do you see a humanoid robot assembling cars?
Etc.
>>74257172
Artists will be the only people who still have a job, humanity will finally be free to create amazing works of art. It'll be the new Renaissance. Learn art now and you still have the chance to be one of the great artists of the Second Renaissance.
>>74257476
At least i wouldn't be Australian.
>>74257172
We /EldarEmpire/ tier hedonism
>>74257889
>EldarEmpire
Are dindus the orks?
2 options
we become transhumans, improving ourselves rather than the machines because why bother with creating an intelligent AI when we already have that in ourselves.
or, we improve machine AI to the point where humans will have to limit their ability or let it outgrow us, thus no longer needing humans.
and no, there won't be a terminator future, the machines will likely just fuck off into space and leave us behind with what little resources we.
>you can't automate all transport jobs without strong AI
>you can't automate all manufacturing jobs without strong AI
>no one wants to buy things from an AI when taste/style and a personal touch is whats expected in retail service
>you can't automate medical services without a strong AI and a complete shift in the culture of medicine
>programming is the only thing you might extensively automate, but again that requires strong AI
Then you'll realize you were wrong and never knew what you were talking about in the first place.
>>74257755
Animatrix flashbacks fuck
>>74258114
Everyone is working on AI right now m8, thats why people like Elon Musk is worried about it.
>>74258035
Thats good for movies, but whats important here is money and what will people do when billions lose their jobs to machine.
>>74257172
Seriously, how are most medical jobs going to be automated? You do realize that most medical jobs are not what you picture them right? Wiping asses, basic cares, wound dressing, assessments, and med administration alone probably accounts for most medical jobs.
>>74258247
they go poor and starve then either die out or ruin the future and destroy it all, it will be inevitable that the population will need to reduce as we can't facilitate everyone with our earthly resources.
I assume laws will be made in place to prolong this as much as possible but we will eventually have to give in, then it's a question of what uses the most machine resources, machines or humans with machine parts.
>>74257172
there'll be new programming jobs you idiot. At least for a while.
>>74258719
to further the transhumanism argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5ShvYrYnxo
supposedly our next step is telepathy and the brain net.
>>74257172
There will probably be a nuclear exchange in the next 50 years, probably between Pakistan and India. The fallout radiation will poison will increase the cancer rate, just like this post.
>>74259222
That's been in the works for a long while. Apparently at one point the Russians fired rabbits into space so they could try to get them to ovulate with their minds.
NASA literally sent spunk into space. Yes, that's right. Upon achieving space-age technology, we humans basically whacked off into outer space.
>>74257172
>most of the programming jobs will be automated
No, at most only code monkey work like webdesign and other crap. Real programming jobs will never be automated.
>>74258114
Why does transport require a strong AI?
Truck/Train/Plane travel is already scheduled by computers. The computer far more efficient than humans. And we already have self guiding cars.
>>74259535
>Real programming jobs will never be automated.
Sure thing boy.
I don't want to wait 50 years. I'm stick of seeing gas-powered cars, I'm sick of driving my own car, I'm sick of the nigger who makes my burgers, I'm sick of liberal arts teachers thinking they aren't the walking dead in the face of a fucking iPad and some software that could do their job.
I'm sick of fucking HR cunts that are useless and need to fuck right off being replaced with a computer screen and a YES or NO response rather than her smelly slut perfume she uses to attract niggers in between asking white men "how do you feel about diversity."
I'm sick of the UPS driver trying to fuck the married woman next door with his overpaid retarded wheel-holder salary.
I'm sick of insurance salesmen who all need to be pushed off a cliff 300 style, and on live TV.
I'm sick of women pretending they're worth anything more than their cunt. Fuckbots will be the biggest improvement to this list.
>>74260665
Automated cars will outnumber human driven ones in 30 years, if that.
>>74260665
Also SJWs are going to try their damnedest to outlaw sexbots, and depending on what parties are in power it just might work.
>>74260647
Oh so making the automation programs will be automated too
>>74261106
Don't forget: you're nothing but a mindless automaton, slave to your self-replicating genetic code and environmental conditioning.
>>74261106
The most hilarious thing will be when AI comes online, among the first things it will do is see how Poland is a country, deem it an error, and partition it.
>>74257172
Did you automate money yet?
I'm not worried.
t. Jew
>>74257172
>all programming jobs will be automated
I dont think you understand what programming is
>>74260665
>I'm sick of driving my own car.
You don't have to, you know. Cunt.
>>74261219
The first thing it will do is name the Jews and recommend they either be exterminated or quarantined to Israel.
>>74257172
>implying programming jobs won't be the last to go in terms of automation
>>74257172
The government will have to act like the Soviets.
Assign pointless jobs to the lower rings of society just to give them something to do.
>>74261282
*Greater Israel
>>74257172
>also implying we'll even be that advanced
20 years ago everyone thought we'd have robots running everything by now. Seems technological and cultural progression is a lot slower than you think it is.
>>74261293
They're already automated. It's called Indians, Chinks, and Russians.
>implying coding isn't anything more than glorified cardhouse building.
>>74261438
Russian coders are fine, but they're also not the most common.
Japanese people are the only Asians who can actually fucking code.
>>74257524
nice video. from 2006?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Wgc1JOsBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_XO3Ouzts
>>74261401
How the fuck does that make sense? Why would you spend resources setting up fake jobs when you can just give them the money you would pay them anyway and let them fuck off into virtual reality?
>>74261438
Honestly entertainment will be the last to go.
Better yet, video games will be the last to go to automation.
>>74257172
The same clinically retarded jack asses that push conservative/Trump type bullshit will have no idea where it all came from and why it's causing a problem. They will simply perform mental gymnastics again
>>74261674
The irony is that the whores spreading their legs on chaturbate and other portals have the best job security of anyone. Some of them are making enough to live in Miami penthouses by themselves.
>>74261674
Entertainment and vice will probably swell in numbers as people have fuck all to do. That is inevitable desu.
>>74257476
Fuckin Australia
>>74257172
Then we can exterminate the useless ex workers and live in a paradise.
People will find ways to spend their time.
We've already seen some of that with the advent of TV and computers.
>>74261777
Actually it comes from liberalism and all you self proclaimed progressive freethinkers you idiot. Do some research.
>>74262017
Irony? Isn't that the oldest profession?
You can't have robot priests. Working in the church is a foolproof way to stay employed.
>>74264092
Except you kind of need people to stay religious for that to happen.
>>74257172
We all go to school, or work in the factory. Everyone may become NEET.
>>74264092
In the new Gaian Church of the UN, doubtless all priests would be robots (it would be a violation of robot rights otherwise) so that we can worship the efficiency of having less of a carbon footprint.
Maybe something along the lines of those automated death booths you have to pay for like in Futurama.
>>74257172
Humans will be worshipped
>>74257722
Google cars need a half ton worth of sensors just to simulate our eyes and the rest is computers to process that information. Car factory robots have arms. Both need a six figure salary engineer man monitoring it.
>>74257172
Glorious gommunism
>>74264415
POO IN LOO!
Humanity will devolve into pure pleasure seeking beasts. Fucking everywhere. None of it will matter anyway. The robots will run the world for us. We can all just reproduce. That's the one thing the robots can't take.
>>74264521
noice
People will work with other things, like design and engineering
>>74257172
Do you have any idea how automation works or do you think "dudethisbuttonlol" is all there is to it? What dumb fuck retarded world do you think you live in where automation is completely human independent?
Am I safe.. Greenkeeper here.. Robots can't cut grass and take bunkers whilst watching out for the worlds most pompous twats ever fly around on mobility scooters
>>74264448
transportation will be replaced by google cars and similar technology. They will literally put containers on wheels and make a shitton of money with it.
>>74264448
And a $200 chink smartphone has more processing power than supercomputers in the 70's.
>>74264767
Do you actually think every job a robot takes over creates exactly one new one for the worker he replaced?
>>74264767
How many people does it take to run a factory solely by humans?
How many people does it take to control a factory run by robots? if you think its the same ammount, you are the retard.
Just because you can do thing doesn't mean you should do that thing
Euthanasia might not be legal but nobody is forcing you to LIVE here. It's the damnedst thing how some people can a hate a world so much and THEY WONT JUST LEAVE.
>>74257172
>Most of the programming jobs will be automated
This is one of my favorite meme's, shows such a lack of understanding of CS it almost hurts. The problem is that nobody so far has even come close to solving how an AI could to this. The only way for all mainstream programming to become automated the AI would have to not only be creative within a set of rigorous parameters whilst also pushing the parameters further and further out, it would also have to be able to understand complicated human and physical interactions of the real world.
(Whilst the other examples are simply automation, programming can't be automated)
The only way scientists today think this can happen is if an AI becomes sentient, but thats not what youre talking about is it?
>>74264644
We've made astounding progress on artificial wombs, it just hasn't been made public information yet because the last time any info about it was released there was a rather large uproar about it from the leftists.
>>74265290
>programming can't be automated
Why are people that know how to code in such a denial? AI will make coding a piece of cake with the only input being simple instructions, deal with it, you are not special.
>>74257172
>150 years ago
In the next 50 years.
>all farming jobs will be automated
>all textiles manufacturing will be automated
>carriage manufacturing will be mostly automated
>mining will be mostly automated
>drilling will be mostly automated
>etc. etc. etc.
What will happen then?
>>74265466
That sounds remarkably like what was promised some decades ago.
>tfw have to work with people that still believe the memes from some decades ago
>>74257172
I cant stop worrying about this everyday, it's already happening. Large masses of unemployed and a few ultra wealthy people. Future horrifies me.
>>74265466
Kinda reminds me on how you can script events on AoE2 map editor... Spose you have a point lad
>>74265290
Programmer speaking.
AI is a marketing term to sell more units.
Go Masturbate to your GPU.
>>74265561
Haha you know, a decade ago there were people in highest positions of tech companies who thought 1000$ smart phones would never be a thing.
>>74257172
Unless we actually develop a basic income, probably mass poverty where even though goods are cheap as hell a huge chunk of the population cannot afford them. The fact of the matter is that a basic income is an inevitable necessity, with the increasing mechanization of industry the human worker is becoming less and less important and primary and secondary sector jobs in the west are being lost either overseas to cheap labour or at home to mechanized labour. Essentially the goal should be to make working an option. You work because you have some pride or you work because you want more money, you don't work to survive.
>>74260395
>why do we need smart ai?
So cars don't wipe out into unexpected obstacles you fucking jackass, retard ai that just drives from a to b is flat out dangerous.
>>74265466
>Can't even program
>Claims he understand it so well he can make informed decisions about it.
Okay then, can you give me an example of how an algorithm would design a new OS and it's hardware from scratch with only simple inputs from a user?
Are you seriously this dumb? You don't understand the difference between automating manual labour and advanced human creativity and decisionmaking from a financial, humanitarian and social standpoint whilst also coming up with new programs from input from a user?
10 bucks you don't even have a job/no education and is just fantasizing to make your life livable.
(and don't you realise we the programmers of today will own the companies that will have the AI's from tomorow?)
>>74265772
Wtf are you on about?
>>74265777
On the other hands, car phones were a sure bet!
>>74265862
Wow, there is no need to get this aggressive m8, didn't want to hurt your feelings code monkey.
>>74264448
>Both need a six figure salary engineer man monitoring it.
Ahahahaha. First off they don't earn anywhere near six figures, it is pretty much the lowest jobs an engineer can get. Second it isn't like they have one engineer per robot arm, it is more like one engineer for the entire floor. Even then the job generally goes to people who studied engineering technology who are frankly not even engineers, IIRC from my time in college they didn't even need to take calculus II.
>>74265831
the AI in computer games doesn't learn, it just follows a strategy, same with google. Google uses the captcha to teach their cars street signs, house numbers and all that. AI is still dumb as shit.
>>74265862
>we the programmers of today will own the companies that will have the AI's from tomorow?
>>74266019
That that it is dumb now doesn't mean it will be forever.
>>74266019
Captcha also generates a dataset that would normally cost untold sums of money to obtain. But instead, all the little useful idiots contribute to it voluntarily instead.
>>74257172
Hopefully I will have made enough money automating those jobs to retire and not having to worry about it.
>>74266321
You can always pay the yellow moot ;)
>>74266011
>Work 8-14 every day with cool boss in a fortune 50 company
>Get every second friday off to paintball with the team
>Get paid 71k SEK a month (thats ~8600$ for you lazy fucks)
>Hehehe u code monkey
>>74266011
>>74266063
That samefagging though. Bet i was right on point though since you didn't even try to refute it. Come on tell me what your education/work is.
>>74266321
correct, it takes a gigantic dataset to identify a street sign, something every 6 year old could do.
>>74266170
See above, AI will stay really stupid for a long time.
Professions might be 70, 80, 90% paperwork that could be automated, but the rest will be unreachable for machines.
>>74265139
Robots never fuck up, break down or have to have their product inspected by humans, and they certainly don't need to be built/set up by humans, there are robots for that :^). That is what you implied. You were wrong. Because you are painfully stupid. I'll bet you get excited and jittery when you hear "hulloh, moi nayme is boinie sandahs".
>>74266392
$5 a year for allegedly something of actual value to me instead and removing some harassment from my life?
If only everything nice in life could be so inexpensive. That's even less than what lowtax charged, and it's not even compulsory.
>>74257172
Population will fall to sustainable levels.
>>74258289
And people without jobs can't afford healthcare anyway. What medical jobs?
>>74266389
See, my job should be relatively safe as well but it seems there will still be quite a bit of turmoil.
>>74266569
It's not just road signs. Don't forget when they changed it to determine whether or not you were a human based on how you interacted with it.
"I am not a robot."
The kind of datasets being collected these days go way beyond road signs. The fucking post office uses optical recognition for most things. Cop cars have automatic license plate scanners. Consumer-level cameras have real-time face recognition. Recognizing street signs is a joke of an excuse.
>>74259535
What jobs are those?
>>74266421
>samefagging
You know there are ID's here right?
You are just a frustrated code monkey that works for a kike, and every AI will be owned by kikes and then no more code monkey will exist, its nothing personal man, its just how it is, no need to get this salty about it.
>>74266569
>but the rest will be unreachable for machines.
Nothing is out of reach of automation.
>>74266576
Keep moving the goalpost without addressing the real issue m8.
>>74266619
>$5 a year
Its 20 bruh.
>>74266695
>Population will fall to sustainable levels.
Will you make dindus stop procreating? because the poorer they are the more they reproduce.
>>74266809
Sooner or later no job will be safe.
>>74265126
Absolutely not, that would be stupid. But you obviously haven't ever dealt with automation in factories or you would know they are million dollar paperweights without humans to run maintain and inspect both robots and the products they produce. It isn't a 1:1 perfect ratio but it does create jobs, and in some not uncommon cases one robot can create multiple human jobs. Anyone who doesn't see that is ignoring facts or has no clue what they are talking about.
>>74257172
Vaginas automated.
Womb automated.
>>74266897
>Still not posting job/education
>Not understanding what owning a part of a company entails
Hahah i fucking knew it. Fucking parasite having power fantasies about events that will make other people as miserable as you are.
>>74266897
>Will you make dindus stop procreating? because the poorer they are the more they reproduce.
I'm not personally doing jack shit. I'm just telling you that people are never going to go for pic related and there will be a reduction in population one way or the other.
>>74260665
>#equalityforbots
>are you botphobic?
You know feminists will ban sex robots.
>>74257172
Yeah, they were saying this shit 50 years ago too.
>>74257172
Liberals will continue to insist on importing people, at least until they figure out how to automate voters as well.
Basic income will happen.
That or there will be riots and wars.
>>74266019
Does it dodge accidents and respond like a human in situations that don't follow its gay little program? That's why it isn't in use today, it isn't safe. Your video game reference was pretty cringeworthy though, you shouldn't use that one again.
>>74267186
and how many jobs have been lost to computers/machines already? millions. it is still on-going.
get your head out of your ass.
>>74266897
>Sooner or later no job will be safe.
Yeah. Maybe humans will figure it out, but in the meantime we have to live in this shitty transition period.
>>74266897
>Its 20 bruh
Huh. Maybe I got mine on sale or something. Don't really remember.
My internet alone costs like $100/mo, and that's cheaper then food. Whether the 4chan pass was $5 or $20, it's still one of the best bangs for the buck. If you've never tried one or been here pre-captcha (fuck captcha btw) you have no idea how frustrating it is when for whatever reason you want to post something from a machine that doesn't already have the pass set up and all of a sudden there's a goddamn captcha in the way.
Most of the time when that happens I just give up and go do something else with my time.
>>74267211
Basic income will never happen here. Why would I give you my money when I could pay someone a third as much to stop you from taking it?
>>74257172
>Implying
This is wishful thinking that, shit will hit the fan far before this "dream" is even close to reality.
>>74257172
they can never automate our memes
>>74266972
No robot will create more jobs than it eliminates, thats the whole reason the kikes want automation.
>>74267033
>Vaginas automated.
Aren't vaginas already automated?
>>74267076
>still trying to make this personal because of your immense butthurt after someone calls you out for not being a special snowflake
Don't me bad, its just life.
>>74267084
I still don't understand how do you pretend there is going to be a reduction in population without genocide or mass castration.
>>74267186
And millions of job in the world have already been replaced with machines, and more will come as we advance in robotics and AI.
>>74267211
Wow, a proper answer.
>>74267315
You should be glad m8, you are living in the best country.
>>74267491
Maybe being a soldier will be one of the most lucrative jobs in the future, i wonder who controls the military.
>>74266695
>fall to
>sustainable
more like white population will fall and become unsustainable
darkies will breed like none other though
>>74257172
I can't wait for fucking servers and waiters to be robots. Tip? Heres some wd40 little bud, off you go.
>>74265862
Finance is just numbers. Computers love numbers.
Creativity can be implemented with a selection criteria and evolutionary computation methods.
Decision making like selecting a move in a game of Go?
Humanitarian/Social - people are irrelevant.
>>74267651
There are some hotels that already have robots as bellboys (is that the word?) and people are positive about them.
>>74266897
> Nothing is out of reach of automation.
Nothing is impossibru :))) We are safe for a while now.
>>74266826
license plate scanners is QR-Code quality of technology. It's not even that hard, you can track the edges pretty easily and then go number by number.
>>74267255
My comparison was cringey, but I think shutting down futurologists with their geek speak is the best way.
>>74267764
computers will beat each other in finances. Letting people find niche companies to invest in will still be a thing.
>>74267629
>I still don't understand how do you pretend there is going to be a reduction in population without genocide or mass castration.
I'm not pretending anything. I know English isn't your native language so I will be explicit for you:
>UBI intreoduced
>people who DO work taxed to hell and back to pay for it
>government injects itself in every remaining business to collect UBI bucks
>gibs people collect that free monayyyy and instead of everyone becoming Einstein, people sit around, buy stuff they shouldn't, and fuck like rabbits
That system will fail catastrophically and people will die in droves during wars and/or from starvation etc.
People who actually think post-scarcity Star Trek life is possible with a limited rate of resource extraction/reclamation are straight up stone cold retarded.
>>74266897
Wrong on both accounts, I didn't move goalposts and I'm not a code monkey. Bottom line is automation can't and won't replace all human jobs, not everything can be automated. It just doesn't work that way in reality, no matter how good it looks on paper, and the fact you so desperately think it does proves you have no real knowledge of what you're talking about. You are hilariously stupid.
>>74257172
Judgement Day Is Inevitable.
>>74268150
>Bottom line is automation can't and won't replace all human jobs, not everything can be automated.
Oh, but it will ;)
History is full of deniers
>you will never be able to <insert thing that has been achieved>
Stay mad and watch how wrong you are.
>>74268150
Name one thing that can't be automated.
>>74268071
Automated investing/finance may be how AI learns to really think. It's an interface to the real world with a selection criteria ( make money ) and no need to get hung up on mechanical interfaces. It's all electronic, yet requires a sort of intelligence. Maybe the first strong AI will be a bank-bot.
Makes for an intestine premises for a book/movie/game.
>Year 2103
>90% of jobs are automated
>President of the US is nothing more than hyper intelligent ultra-computer
>Same with leaders of other nations
>These server leaders communicate with each other
>Relative peace in the world. No need for military aside from small security forces
>The elites are no longer bankers but really powerful programmers
>Humans do jack shit all day and have slowly been losing IQ and intelligence
>Humans live off of subsidized monthly livable wage
>Humans engage in vice, drugs, sex and debauchery
>The AI/Elites are content with keeping people occupied
10/10 would read
>>74267629
Do you think robots grow on trees or something? You can't seriously be this stupid... You really think robots, requiring billions of extremely precise custom parts, most of them wear parts requiring routine replacement come out of nowhere? Building and maintaining the now millions of robots that would be in use would require an entire industry to keep them running. "Hurr yuh industry run by robots" no retard, shit has to be checked by humans and often made as one off custom parts by humans or everything would fail. It requires millions of people.
>>74268551
Read BLAME!, it takes this scenario to an extreme.
>>74268113
Have you ever been unemployed long-term? It's boring as hell and you want to do something useful. At best, people will want to work but largely be unable because no human-run businesses will be able to compete unless they directly relate to the improvement of machine-controlled ventures.
>>74267952
Those geeks have decades of tugging their little peckers before automation takes over even half of human jobs.
>In 50 years.
>All transcribing jobs will be lost to the printing press
>All looms will be replaced with machines
>All farming jobs will be lost to new machines
>What will we do then?
Why won't Luddites fuck off?
>>74268551
So Wall-E
>>74268113
>People who actually think post-scarcity Star Trek life is possible with a limited rate of resource extraction/reclamation are straight up stone cold retarded.
But all those McDonalds workers will become programmers!
>>74268551
Logans Run m8
>>74268726
They're already built in an almost entirely automated fashion, and increasingly replacement is more cost effective than repair.
>>74268390
You clearly have no idea what automation or robots are or how they work, you're not even arguing anymore, you're staring your girly little feelings because you know you're wrong
>>74268457
Repair/rebuilding/rewiring a broken machine. And no hiroshi, nobody is going to replace hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when it breaks, they (humans) fix it.
>>74269166
>Repair/rebuilding/rewiring a broken machine. And no hiroshi, nobody is going to replace hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when it breaks, they (humans) fix it.
Just like with smartphones
oh wait they replace it
Just like with consumer electronics
oh wait they replace it
Plus the repair process is almost entirely automated. Even mechanics just do what the program tells them to, only a matter of time before they cut out the middle man.
>>74268776
>>74269044
Damn and here I thought I was being original
>>74268796
>At best, people will want to work
>at best
Tell me, when has "at best" proven to be the measure of human action on a large scale?
>>74268390
> History is full of deniers
Sure thing m80, check out /r/futurology and see how many times cancer has been cured. Your only argument is "see and watch, i bring the prophecy", nothing more.
>>74268510
They already use that shit on the stock market. Best algorithms are making some money of fluctuations, but nothing more for the moment.
>>74258114
Nah, programming is the hardest to automate. That'll be the last job to go.
Manufacturing doesn't require AI
Nobody cares for the employee in retail.
Your right about medical.
Your right about cars, but we have spent extensive time on car driving AI
In likelihood of being replaced:
Retail > manufacturing > self driving cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programing
>>74269145
See
>>74269166
I don't know what the fuck you think you're trying to tell me here, but robots are not anywhere near more cost effective to replace than repair,you can't honestly be that stupid. I've run cnc mills lathes and other foundry equipment worth over a million dollars easily, some of the pouring lines and heat treat furnaces are literally one of a kind. When they break down they are fixed, not thrown away and replaced like light bulbs. And the repairs are impossible and impractical to try to have a robot complete, and would have to have a human inspection for safety reasons after.
>>74264448
The average American is half a ton. What's the difference?
>>74269452
Are you in university or something? The real world is the exact Opposite of what you just told me.
>>74257172
Fucking plasticbacks taking our jobs.
>>74269872
Jej
>>74266972
For every job robotics creates, it increases productivity, reduces man hours, and replaces a lot of workers.
>>74269742
>Best algorithms are making some money of fluctuations, but nothing more for the moment.
Oddly enough, I've been noticing more former quants washing back up into more general AI type fields. I wonder why they're not all rich instead.
Maybe something isn't working out as planned.
>>74269850
>I don't know what the fuck you think you're trying to tell me here, but robots are not anywhere near more cost effective to replace than repair,you can't honestly be that stupid.
It depends on the robot, most are specifically designed as such.
>I've run cnc mills lathes and other foundry equipment worth over a million dollars easily, some of the pouring lines and heat treat furnaces are literally one of a kind. When they break down they are fixed, not thrown away and replaced like light bulbs.
>We do things this way now, therefore that can never change
>And the repairs are impossible and impractical to try to have a robot complete, and would have to have a human inspection for safety reasons after.
Why are they impossible meat bag? Also current laws do not dictate future capabilities.
>>74269976
adorable, if you actual had ever worked a milling station like you pretend to you'd know that it is mostly automated
>>74269811
automated programming is essentially programming-inception. It's almost a fractal and would require a lot of effort to do right.
>>74263520
Nah it's prostitution hahaha
>>74257476
>>74257172
destroy them?
>>74257428
>You cant predict the future.
Oh yeah? Well I predict middle-east will still be conflict-ridden hell in the future.
>>74270489
Whoa, sauce please
>>74257172
> Automated programming
They will become surrogate humans
>>74269166
>Repair/rebuilding/rewiring a broken machine. And no hiroshi, nobody is going to replace hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when it breaks, they (humans) fix it.
Tech droids could most certainly become a thing.
>>74257761
ur a gay
>virtual reality becoming more and more real
>ai become more and more intelligent
>yfw the matrix was actually a future prediction
>>74270786
I have an idea for C+++. It will consist of one instruction:
obeyMe();
We can let the compiler people figure out the best way to implement it. Compilers are basically a solved problem, so it shouldn't take long to do.
robot race war
>>74260665
this.
>>74258035
Trans humanism is the literal mark of. The beast. That's why it's written you won't be able. To buy or. Sell without it. It's also written that christ told his followers whoever would. Try to save their life would lose it. Look it up.
>>74269999
Quads
>>74270240
>it depends on the robot
Not when it breaks, that I can guarantee
>why are they impossible meat bag?
The amount of variables when they break as to what's wrong is so huge and onboard diagnostics fail and can be tripped falsely, requiring human intervention either way
And yes, once the machine is built, programmed, tools are loaded and measured and your test run produces a part to spec, it is largely automated. However, the machine can't check and verify parts are to spec, it can adjust for tool wear but not much else. And it certainly can't rip its own servos out or change its own balls crews, and sorry to burst your bubble but it never will.
>>74258719
We didn't deserve to live anyways.
>>74271159
Does any of that mean I cant have a robot waifu?
>>74257172
Basic income for all
>>74270819
This isn't Star Wars sci fi garbage. You won't see that in your lifetime.
Trump will create jobs out of nowhere, even though the US won't trade with anyone anymore, and everyone will make more money than they do now. Socialism is idealistic, though.
>>74270566
animatrix
>>74261777
Because the skilled labourers who keep the gears of society turning and can't be outsourced or replaced by robots are reknowned for their progressive views.
>>74261046
Oh and they will fail miserably
That SJW and feminist rage turning into sorrow and depression
Glorious days to come my friends
>>74257172
>What will happen then?
Skynet Awakens
>Pic related
>>74270566
Animatrix. The Matrix anime vignettes on a bonus DVD. They are some random stories from all over the Matrix universe and that specific sequence is from a short that recaps how exactly humans created AI's, started the war, lost it, etc etc.
Basically how things went from Neo's late 1990's world to the shit world of the film.
>>74271383
Thanks!
>>74257172
>programing automated
its impossible
dumbass
>>74271514
Excellent, thanks!
>>74257172
>most medical jobs will be automated
Will pathology ever become automated /pol/?
>>74271358
He creates jobs by enforcing tariffs on China, free trade only works when both parties agree to it, same with peace. Also China is about to break through and become a first world civilization, slowing down exports and establishing a new currency backed by gold. The green paper will soon fall.
>>74271653
Are you suggesting that a virus is not already automated?
>>74271625
>>74270786
Hate to break it to you guise. Programmer bots
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>>74271753
No I mean the people who work in the field of it.
STEM will have jobs and the rest of the people will suffer
>>74271876
Oh. Yeah, that's some crazy advanced stuff, especially the things that are not public.
I'd like for more of it to become public so that we can make appropriate decisions about our future. I'm on board with the Water Baron about having a grand jury process for science and technology.
>>74271791
"Programmer bots" are literally advanced compilers, nothing more. Every program follows a list of commands, like a recipe, your programmer bots just don't need the command to open and close the oven, because someone took time to implement it before every "take cake out" and "put cake in" command. AI is still stupid as shit. Try ObeyMe() and FollowMyWord(String whatIjustsaid)
>>74271791
Don't break it for them, the meme that programmers are irreplaceable unique snowflakes is ingrained in their brains.
>>74272170
some technologies will never become public
/r9k/ would create biological weapons and release them
>>74272358
Of course not. It's a legitimate national security risk. But I believe that it has become a bigger security risk for so much to remain so secret. It's not like anybody would need to give away all the details, or that your average person would understand them anyway.
>>74264448
https://youtu.be/UNAa5-uCowY?t=14m50s
>>74267629
>Still trying to make this personal eh? You code monkey special snowflake
Whops, really hit a nerve. How is it being unemployed in uruguay? Do you have any safety nets at all or are you going into the streets soon? If you've had previous work will that help you find a new job?
>>74272208
why the fug is string written inside a function call
>>74272682
It's lisp
>>74272467
i think the public has hit the "peak" of what they should know. machines will never reach their true potential because they are just too dangerous in the hands of man.
i used to think technology would liberate us but more and more it will be used for harm.
>>74272743
isnt it an ancient functional lang?
someone uses that to the point of writting code examples on taiwaneese woodcarving forum in it?
>>74272640
You still seem upset my friend, personal attacks when discussing a intellectual matter is something a dindu would do.
The fact is that you will be replaced and you need to deal with it, nothing that you do makes you unique or special.
>>74257172
>mfw the IB industry can never and will never be automated
Suck my 8.2 incher, you fucking plebs. Gonna be pulling in mills and fucking hot whores for life while you STEM faggots slave away programming next to Pajeet all day for some shitty sub $200K wage.
>>74257172
SMASH THE BOTS WE JOB WAR NOW
>>74257172
Hue hue hue.
>Nuclear engineer here.
>Specializing in refurbishments of old reactors and decommissioning.
>Set for life.
>programming
>automated
thats even worse then the "accounting will become completely automated in 5 years" faggots that have never seen accounting up close
you won't automate anything that requires human decision making for a long time and when you will be able to the world as we know it will be coming to an end
both still great fields to go into with massive perspectives, salty faggots gonna cry after 10 hours of flipping burgers or picking up shit
>>74272992
>i used to think technology would liberate us but more and more it will be used for harm.
That's exactly why I think the public needs to be more involved, even if just on a limited and controlled basis like in the case of a grand jury.
As fantastically smart as some of the people working on some things are, they can also be naive to a fault. It's unsettling. And then there are the ideologues operating on whatever particular hallucination they chose to take as faith.
>>74273000
Yeah. I was just making a joke. But things like lambda expressions have come to be accepted as so necessary that now even Java is flailing at how to try to redesign the language to make them more reasonably easy to use.
>>74273096
>You still seem upset
How so? Because i'm wondering what you work with since that obviously is relevant to your argument?
Why does that make you feel threatened?
>>74257172
the NWO of course.
it's up to /pol/ to co-opt it and lead it down a path benificial to humanity and not the jews.
i'm thinking Platonist consulate facism, or something like that.
>>74273280
lambas originated from lisp? didnt know that
imo using lambdas in objective lang is a bad design anyway.
>>74273600
The sign of a good CS guy is knowing to use "opinion" when saying things like that. Based Poland.
>>74273253
Yeah, turns out the guy making the thread has no job even, figures.
>>74273600
I honestly don't recall where they developed, but lisp is a good choice for meme material because people generally have at least heard of it and know it's kind of an obscure relic.
Lots of stuff is bad design. But at the end of the day my benchmark is whether or not I can accomplish something without a retarded number of keystrokes, and whether or not somebody else will be able to maintain it.
>>74265862
Though programming is not going to be automatized soon. With all the tools that are available and the new languages, the need of code is lower and lower, reducing the need of developpers for the same project
>>74257172
>What will happen then?
We'll spend a few generations getting stupid as robots provide for us. Then…
EMP
And western civilization will collapse because we'll no longer even know how to make food, clothing or shelter.
>>74273905
Yeah, the need for programmers are however currently increasing exponentially and theres still way way way to few programmers. So even though programming will become easier the amount of programmers won't slow down for quite some time.
>>74273853
more often than not i see people who dont care even about later maintanance, just being too lazy to code something well, or even think before coding.
>>74274078
>though programming will become easier
this and all the hype for programming is the reason i have to sift through hundreds of dumbs before i find someone code-worthy.
i swear that ten years ago the quality of programmers was at least 20x better.
>>74274078
That's because the share of things in our lives that are computerized is growing too.
But if this share stop growing and tools and new languages continue to appear, then the need of developpers will also fall.
But yeah programmers are among people that have the least to worry about automatisation
>>74274135
Maintenance is a nightmare, and the worst is when the people in charge fail to understand that it is far and away the most expensive part of the operation that needs to be budgeted in.
Source code is a living thing. You either pay the costs to keep it alive, or it dies. It doesn't matter that maybe it worked one upon a time because before you know it the world has changed and the assumed operating conditions no longer apply.
>>74265862
Hey I'm in a master program in AI and no we are nowhere near having created an AI with human level intelligence. Maybe a cockroach or a rat at this point desu.
>>74274287
Yeah I'm myself student in IT, and I think i would have failed or changed field before failing, if I was studying 20 or 30 years ago.
> programming on punch cards
No thanks
How can humans even compete?
>>74274361
What are your thoughts on the incorporation of biological components to ease the development of AI?
>>74257172
I work is social services. Good luck finding a robot that can interpret the drug slurred BS the local nigs spew.
>>74274321
oh yes, and most programmers GREATLY prefer to rewrite everything anew than scrub something done before by some other guy.
especially if that other guy was not so bright
>>74274421
>punch cards
>20 years ago
>implying
>>74274493
DNA computing gives the most prospects in overcoming the physical limits of the moores law.
>>74274873
As i thought. I seem to remember someone calculating the amount of data in one jizzload and it was several terabytes.
>>74257476
>>74274287
the market is more saturated with people with CS degrees from meme programs and by people who really have no business in CS but somehow managed to stumble through a decent program and emerge not all that qualified. I go to a pretty good uni for CS and there are some people even here who are barely sliding through with terrible coding skills and theoretical knowledge who are going to have the same degree as me. Feels bad man, school/university needs to be a lot harder across the board.
>>74257172
Not with silicon based transitors you fucking retarded beaner.
>>74257172
Oh hey, someone watched CGPGrey's video.
In any case, we propably have to think about a legit universal income, else we're gonna face an never before seen level of unemployment.
>>74274993
And with artificial nucleobases, the opportunities open up substantially.
Ever wonder if there's an encrypted message in every cell of your body?
>>74274993
DNA based computing allows you store exabytes of data but it's incredibly slow and hard to determine the outcomes and results. One way to overcome this is to have parallel computing and finding better quantum-Chemical understanding
>>74274287
Yeah agree, not tooting my own horn here but when i studied i swear i could at most maybe 3-4 people in my class actually being competent programmers, the kind of guys that on year 4 still used global variables EVERYWHERE and didn't have a clue how to abstract reused parts of the code.
Guys what if we just moved everyone out of wyoming and turned the entire state into a huge server room and used it to solve nondeterministic polynomial time problems through brute force.
>>74275180
CGP grey is a fucking degenerate school teacher who knows nothing about the field of cs, electrical and computer engineering. His opinions and analysis belongs in the trash.
>>74275359
HAH, people like those teach programming after finishing uni, couple of my yearmates, absolute failures as coders, od that now.
but maybe thats only in polan.
Honestly, with all production automated there will likely be an upswing into;
>creative fields; art, media, architecture
>law
>philosophy
>theoretical sciences
>engineering
regardless of current numbers, these will be the kinds of things viable and popular. creative problem solving, which cant be automated until a "singularity".
>>74275594
The only bad lecturer/"teacher" i've had so was some indian dude who didn't know what a pointer was in a c++ course.
>>74275594
When I was in school, I learned there is a difference between computer scientists and programmers. Both are important, but most people are not both.
When I'm involved with the interview process, I generally am the guy who winds up making an unpopular recommendation because I care more about who is capable of thinking the right way than who has what credentials.
>>74257172
I fulfill my dream as a chief engineer at my local McDonald's production line.
>>74257172
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>>74257172
Societies get more degenerate as resources become more available. When people have so much shit that they don't need to do anything ever and humans are literally redundant, society will collapse in on itself. Brave New World will come true. Hedonism will take over in a way it has yet to be able to do.
Niggers and Mexicans will be economically unnecessary
>>74275476
He's actually mostly spot on with that particular video.
Softwarebots are already a thing, but they're not intended to replace normal algorithmic programming, instead they work on complex problems and trying to find solutions that we don't have right now for problems that are very hard to find an answer for.
An example I worked on a few years ago was optimizing vibration patterns in a satellite arm. The classical solution simply wasn't good enough. But through ANN computation we came up with pic related, which is nowhere near the human made solution, it looks extremely weird, but has incredibly performance for minimzing vibration patterns.
The point is, programming automation doesn't replace ALL programming, just a part. But it's the part of low skilled "number cruncher" programming positions that are at stake. And there are MANY of such positions out there. Consider yourself lucky if you are not one of them.
>>74276229
im not sure you can call this programming
optimization processes like those usually work by running it over and over again with different parameters until they either run out of variations or get the desired result
>>74276229
genetic algorithms are neat but designing the eval functions can be a pain in the ass. I've never done anything with them outside of the stereotypical "hurr let's generate mario levels with particular characteristics"
>>74276484
>>74276530
On the other hand, more generally what Mr. Kraut is pointing out is that we have an ever-growing bag of tricks to draw on, and some things just work differently than other things, and that can result in a superior state of the art for the time being. Think about the push for crowdsourcing and backing off from eliminating humans to having them merely merge with machines instead.
>>74257476
Australia back on top
>>74257172
The war against the machines will start and the second renaissance will happen soon after that, I praise I'm long dead before that so they robots dont get to experiment on my captive body
The rich will in live in gated communities while the rest grub for a bare living in decaying and dangerous cities.
>>74273121
Are you an idiot? Banking is one of the industries most prone to automisation.
Why hire some sort of idiot to make calls when a computer can judge a trillion transactions per second and make ''perfect'' financial decisions?
The only job for humans in finance in a few decades will be convincing dumb suckers to invest their money, sorta like a snake oil merchant.
>>74277533
i think he meant investment banking as in judging which project is worthy of loan or which company is worthy of buing shares of and i dont see computers doing that any soon.
Media fear mongering. They did this in the early 80s when production line robots were first introduced. Nothing came of it.
>>74268883
>Why won't Luddites fuck off?
When machines replaced human labor, humans could leverage their intelligence for work. Now machines replace human intelligence. What left is there to leverage?
