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>The United States and Britain have long prized their “special relationship,” but early signs indicate that if Donald J. Trump wins the presidency the bond between the two allies could be weakened.

So you're willing to sacrifice our alliance with Britain for the sake of MUH MUSLIM BAN?

Idiots.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/donald-trump-david-cameron-sadiq-khan.html
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>>74252649
why don't we sacrifice mudslimes for our US special relationship instead?

I won't miss em
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>>74252649

You need to understand that it's not really an "alliance." In reality, Britain needs us far more than we need the, so they need to suck up to us and we can do whatever the fuck we want. They are beholden to us, not the other way around.
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We have been defending western Europe on our dime for a long, long time while they waste time and money on stupid vanity wars in South America. America has cucked UK so hard their heads are spinning, and now they're freaking out because Americans MIGHT elect a president who isn't going to keep handing out a blank check every year to a country that promotes Islamic extremism.
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>>74252791

As if I needed more reason to want Trump to win, the thought of B*its backtracking everything they said and coming to beg and grovel at his feet makes me all giddy inside.
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>>74253249
Delicious
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Fuck that ISIS loving cuck. Get ready, UK, we will be cleansing you guys next.
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Do you really want an alliance with a country that sacrificed its own people to the Islamic hordes?
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>>74253022

The US gives us literally no money you fucking idiot.

>60% white
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>>74252649

>implying Trump/Farage alliance wouldnt be a possibility.

Either that or america will have to invade us and set us free.
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>>74252649
>yfw Brexit happens
>Yfw Trump wins
>yfw Britain is left to rot and St. Paul becomes the main mosque of Europe
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>>74253022
>We have been defending western Europe on our dime for a long, long time
>by propping up their vassal as head of the EU
>by perpetrating modern liberalism
>by arguing for Turkey in the EU
>by setting the EU up against Russia, a fellow European and Western country

Oh boy, the US sure has been good to us!

Your cronies in our government do not represent us. Don't get pissed off that the policy you've been pushing on us since the end of the war might now cause a rift. Don't worry, as soon as the US cucks are booted out of power, we'll all be a-OK with Trump.
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How would Trump make relations with UK any worse than O'Nigger already has?
>repeatedly sticking his ugly black head into the Brexit debate which doesn't concern him
>threatening them with bad trade deals
>called "most anti-British candidate" by British politicians
>has it out for them because Kenya was a british colony

Can't believe we elected a nigger twice
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>>74252649
Willing to sacrifice a relationship with a tiny island full of idiots who would sooner make empty threats to forwin diplomacy over something as trivial as a person running for president.

Tell me about how the UK matters in any capacity to this planet.
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>>74253615
Lmao look how asspained the impotent limey cuck is. There there, Reginald.
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>>74253615

>Posting graphics from the 20th century
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>>74252649
>So you're willing to sacrifice our alliance with Britain
Britain does... what for us exactly? Seriously, I'm trying to think of something useful they provide for us that we couldn't do without.
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>>74252649
Yes
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>>74252649
The Muslim ban was already going to lock out most of the UK, might as well just make it universal. It will be easier to enforce.
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>>74252649
>alliance
>bond

Britain is USA's bitch like any other country in NATO.
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>Elect Mayor
>Immediately starts a fight with US's presidential candidate Trump before anything else
>said candidate say something nice
>LOOK AT THAT BAD MAN TRUMP!

Wew Lad
Why is our relationship bad?
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>>74252649
he's not even in office and he's already ruining diplomatic relation.
this is gonna be great
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>>74252649
>/pol/ will defend this titile

Can we make this an automatic ban please
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It was between Sadiq and a stuck-up Jew for Mayor. Labour are leading the votes, and they'll most likely want to vote to stay in the EU.

What the fuck am I meant to do?
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>>74252649
If you actualy think that MUH FEELINGS will ever play a major role in foreign politics of US and UK, you've read too much liberal propaganda
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>>74252649
>mfw Khan shits himself when Trump wins the election and uses his influence to make his life miserable
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>>74252649
I love this place but if we don't leave the EU I will never feel pride in my country ever again
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>>74256403
>algeria

What even is that?
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>>74255532
We will begrudgingly ally with trump and after he helps us, completely 180 and love him.

Sadie Khan will be out in 2020 and we will become memeland
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>>74252649
So Trump won't have a good relationship with the politicians who wish to push agendas that are harmful to the British people?

Makes me like Trump even more.
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I hate these "journalists"

He never said he would dissolve our relationship, he even said if brexit happened he'd cut the UK some slack.
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>>74252649
Literally what does the Islamic Republic of Great Britain do for the US? Send token forces we don't need to help in our wars, all while complaining about us 24/7?

Every European "ally" of the US's is literally worthless, except maybe France. Who the fuck cares what they think? I'd rather have a cordial relationship with Russia than an amazing relationship with the UK. At least our relationship with Russia has any geopolitical implications at all, anywhere.
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>>74255532
/gg wp ez
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>>74256023
Well, UK does matter, cuz without them, who would take all the child-molesting towelheaded goatfuckers? We gonna send them ALL to sweden?
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>>74256484
I hope this happens, the head of some miniscule city shouldn't be getting involved with world politics anyway, that's above his pay grade and it makes it harder for the people who are supposed to deal with other world leaders to do their job

Now any Brit that meets trump will feel the need to apologize for their pet Muslim
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>>74252649

>UK's politicans attack Trump
> try to get him banned
> Trump strikes back
> Oy Vey Trump will destroy our great relationship

are these people fucking serious?
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>>74252649
Didn't the UK try to ban Trump from entering?
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>>74252649
>'Britain'

All the original british are dead, the only thing left now are cucks and ragheads who are in reality enemies.
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>>74252649

Muslim ban = Eternal Anglo ban
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Who are they speaking for when they say we pride ourselves as being British allies?

There will always be resentment from the Brits due to the fact that their colony surpassed them. They're just making things up to fit their narrative of hating trump.
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>>74256449
both will make you miserable but jews will at least keep you safe and miserable. trust the professionals, they've been at this a while.
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>>74257034

Trump will help unite the true last Britons left.
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If Britain are gonna let themselves get cucked by a Muslim mayor who has ties to radical Islam then they don't deserve anyones help, blind fucking fools just like Germany.
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>>74256513
An African Muslim pool of piss.
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>>74253022
The US wasn't forced to help Britain in the Falklands War, Reagan chose to - NATO does not cover the South Atlantic.

>>74255772
He wouldn't. All of the denouncements of Trump are just political point-scoring and virtue signalling. I can't believe /pol/ doesn't recognise this.

>>74256183
US politicians like to have Britain on-side to add legitimacy to their foreign excursions, it doesn't look as imperialist when you invade a country if you can claim you're part of a coalition. Additionally, the UK is the means through which the US influences EU policy. The EU is a fundamentally anti-American organisation - if united it would soon strive to challenge American preeminence.

>>74256479
This.

>>74256501
Britain is dying m8.
Brexit may resuscitate her, but I doubt it.

>>74256775
France is very hostile to American influence, both culturally and politically.
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Sorry UK, but you were the ones who voted in these loonies. You do not have my sympathy.

Plus you all said you'd fucking ban Trump from coming into your country a few months back. Do you honestly think he'd go easy on you when you've been barraging him with insults and threats?

I'll respect you all a lot more when you can get UKIP to win and Brexit to happen.
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>>74252649
We love trump on this side of the pond. Fuck the political class
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>>74252649
Yes
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>>74257288
>Britain is dying m8.
America will carry on your legacy for you mate :*(
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>>74252649
Cameron doesn't have the balls to step up tp Trump and no one would give a shit about a mayor, unless they are a token minority or fag these days.
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>>74257430
Yes, I know.
The US will preserve the English language, common law and individual liberties.

The other aspects of Britishness will cease to exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2UMO6rZd4
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We don't have a special relationship. Fuck the brits. Fuck op and fuck sadiq khunt.
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>>74252649
Why should we be allied with shitskin countries? Fuck them all.
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>>74257288
>US politicians like to have Britain on-side to add legitimacy to their foreign excursions
So, nothing. We don't need legitimacy, it's just a bonus.

>if united it would soon strive to challenge American preeminence.
>The EU
>challenging america
hahaha, that's really funny. Even if you had the strength to do so, which you don't, you faggots are too limp wristed to do anything. Face it, we don't need you or the whole of europe for anything besides being a punching bag for Putin.
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>>74253615
White people don't live in cities in America, cities are hives for poor minorities. They get the shit tier city housing, hence why the cities are all leftist democrat stronghold shitholes.

The white people and minorities clever(or just not lazy) enough to climb the first couple steps of the the wealth ladder live in the burbs or the country where the air is better and there is less noise. City life is for Insects and dindus, skyscraper dwellers not withstanding.

The county where I live is 96% white, 1% asian, 1% latino, .5% black .5% other. I live in New York, which is one of the more "diverse" states.
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>>74257756
>So, nothing. We don't need legitimacy, it's just a bonus.

Your politicians seem to think you do.

>Even if you had the strength to do so

A united EU would have an economy larger than that of the US, a larger population and plenty of room for industrial expansion in the former communist bloc.

>Even if you had the strength to do so, which you don't, you faggots are too limp wristed to do anything.

Limp-wristed? European politicians such as Merkel have acted pretty decisively in pursuing their goals - demographic shifts in the European population, other European states forced into dependency on Germany etc.

>Face it, we don't need you or the whole of europe for anything

It's an important market for American goods and services, and vital in maintaining American global hegemony.

>besides being a punching bag for Putin.

The irony being, of course, that the American antagonism with the Russians only benefits the EU (or more aptly, the Germans) who wish to expand eastward - what does America gain by fomenting conflict with Russia? Yet your politicians are eager to do so.
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>>74257756
>Face it, we don't need you or the whole of europe for anything besides being a punching bag for Putin.


Yeah, you actually do. If the US gives up on NATO and Europe, you'll have your Suez moment and the US empire will fall. You'll be confined to the Pacific and will have to deal with a rapidly rising China on your own.

Contrary to American perceptions on here, NATO is a mechanism to let the US control the armies of Europe and intimidate Russia, hence why you have countries like Ukraine and Turkey involved. It isn't about some mutual friendship.
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>>74257914
Okay, what's your point? It's the exact same situation in Britain too.
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>>74252649
>Sucking muslim dick this hard

Are you a nigger or a feminist? Confess.
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>>74257288
If France was that hostile towards Islam they might have had a chance, but now they are part of the caliphate.
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>Trump and Cameron are mad at each other
>Entire geopolitical alliances fall apart
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>>74252649
What the fuck do we need Britain for? Those gaywads can fuck off. Don't you remember we fought wars to not have a "special relationship" with those monarchist faggots?
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>>74259014
Yeah we don't need them, they aren't really the same nation anymore tbqh. Let them go figure themselves out, then we can revisit how we deal with them.
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>So you're willing to sacrifice our alliance with Britain for the sake of MUH MUSLIM BAN?

>our alliance with Britain

>alliance

>we intimidate their enemies while they cross-breed with niggers and mudslimes

Short answer: Yes
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>>74258684
Yes. France desperately wanted to win the demographic battle against Germany that left them in ruins in the 1870-71, 1914-18 and to a certain extent 1939-45 wars.
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>>74252649
>"""special relationship"""
So the redcoats are in charge again?
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>>74252759
underbasted roast
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>attack Trump
>try to ban him from your country
>insult him again
>REALLY insult him again
>Trump was polite the entire time
>elect a muslim mayor of london
>insults trump repeatedly
>'I will remember that.' says Trump
>OH MY GOD TRUMP IS RUINING DA SPECIAL RELATIONSHIT!!!
nah
fuck off
you dug your grave, now pray to allah in it
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>>74259666
>I will remember that
Notice how the attacks stopped when they realized they were pissing off the next POTUS
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>>74252649
We made an alliance with Anglos not mudslimes.
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>>74259336
>while they cross-breed with niggers and mudslimes

US: "Of the 3.6 million adults who got married in 2013 [..] 7% of whites have a spouse whose race was different from their own."
"(This share does not take into account the “interethnic” marriages between Hispanics and non-Hispanics)."

>7% not including hispanics.

UK: "In 2011 the Census showed that almost one in 10 people in Britain were either married or living with someone from a different ethnic group, with proportions ranging from 85% of mixed-race people to 4% of white people."

>4%

k lad.
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>>74259780
>>>7% not including hispanics.
you realize it's mostly non-whites marrying other non-whites, right?
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>“special relationship”

Yea that's in qoutes for a reason.
It sounds like a Cuck and a Bull you guys gotta get away from that fucking term
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>>74252649
STFU shill. The Muzzies will destroy you. We will not.
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>>74259666
I'm a trump supporter, and you are right, but trump did appeal to moron Americans who don't understand Muslims.

Most of them are misunderstood, desu.
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If britian values muslims more than us than it is not that great of a alliance
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>>74252649

I get why you all like Trump and I have no love for the paki prince of London. But you do have to accept if you install a madman as your new tyrant that will tank the global economy you may find when you start stirring up shit people are going to turn their back on you.

The world loves America because it's so dependable and relatively stable.

>>74252791

While obviously the USA is far more powerful and influential than the UK, the fact is the UK is a very important ally as a foothold in Europe, as the second most powerful English speaking nation in the world, as home to the financial capital of the world, and as one of the USA's only real military partner's.

We don't trade a great deal with the USA and we've been moving away towards Europe for a long time. America turning fucking psychotic would mean we'd just drift further away.

Would we put up with your nonsense? Evidently. Can you do whatever the fuck you want because there's nothing for you to lose? I don't think so.
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London doesn't even deserve to be called Britain. Either way, Obama and by extension Hillary are already threatening the relationship.
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>>74252791
No railgun for you.

>>74252649
I agree it is one way, so you should be happy that we cut ties. I know most of us will be, Europe doesn't like you btw, they hate you and won't accept TTIP so good luck with that.
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>>74259877
>>Most of them are misunderstood, desu.
fuck off
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>>74259877
>Most of them are misunderstood, desu.

They're very well understood, that's why we don't want those backwards savages coming to our country.

You guys are fucked though, enjoy your sharia law.

Before you start spouting off about """"""""""moderate""""""""""" muslims or some shit, the only moderate muslim is an apostate.
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>>74252649
>un-ironically wanting to stay allies with EU cucked Islam infested Britcuckistan.

Are you an idiot?
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>>74253022
To be honest, I think we are the only US ally that consistently pulls through with their military alliance. Looking at NATO, I have no idea why you people are still in it.
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>>74256135

2011 census
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>>74257363
when tony b liar imported 4 million shitskins to vote for socialism, they subverted the will of the people, and committed treason

>>74257576
>The US will preserve the English language, common law and individual liberties
common law has been replaced with admirality law in the UK and US, which is why there are cases in the US such as - state of loiusiana v $25,000

common law cannot proceed against property, only against people
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>>74252649

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_73_Easting

Not one challenger lost

On 26 February 1991 British artillery units unleashed an hour long artillery strike on Iraqi positions. It was the greatest British artillery display since World War Two. That same night the British 7th Brigade fought a night tank battle against an Iraqi tank battalion from the Iraqi 52nd Armored Division. After ninety minutes of battle over 50 Iraqi tanks and armored personnel carriers were destroyed.[39] That same night the British 4th Brigade destroyed a headquarters and artillery site belonging to the 807th Brigade of the Iraqi 48th Infantry Division. British infantry units cleared Iraqi defensive positions which were occupied by the Iraqi 803rd Infantry Brigade.[40] After 48 hours of combat, the British 1st Armoured Division assisted in destroying or isolating four Iraqi infantry divisions(the 26th, 48th, 31st, and 25th), and had overran the Iraqi 52nd Armored Division in several sharp engagements. By midnight there was no more organized Iraqi resistance between the 1st Armoured Division and the Persian Gulf.

On 27 February 1991 the British 1st Armoured Division secured the final objectives on the Basra Highway north of Multa Ridge.[42] The British 1st Armoured Division had traveled 217 miles in 97 hours. The 1st Armored Division had captured or destroyed about 200 tanks and a very large number of armoured personnel carriers, trucks, reconnaissance vehicles, etc
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>>74252649
>>74252759


obama has shit on the UK for 8 years. first thing he does is send churchill's bust back to you guys as a sign he hates you.

but thats not problem to you - thats not a deal breaker. the real problem is a potential muslim ban from trump - thats the deal breaker lol

UK is so cucked. you're all dead
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>>74252649
We shouldn't have alliances. But if we should, they should be with based Eastern Europe and Russia, not fag countries.
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>>74259666
we are controlled by kikes, mr satan, just like you are

>>74259877
>trump did appeal to moron Americans who don't understand Muslims
even morons understand mudslimes
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>>74252649
London is so fkn irrelevant, the only relevance London has is the City of London which has a different mayor altogether.
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>>74252649
>MUH MUSLIM BAN
I can't wait for 9/11 so you fuckers can all start begging for Trump.
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>>74260330
I can't wait for the most based 9/11 to happen in the US.
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>>74260066
That is exactly what I'm talking about.

We are getting the apostates and infidels, not terrorists.
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>>74259941
>if you install a madman as your new tyrant that will tank the global economy
Congrats on falling for the MSM Trump Strawman.
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>>74260264
That's because Mudslimes are morons. Inbreeding (pic related) is linked to cognitive disabilities, and Muslims are far more likely to be inbred than most other people. Inbreeding is also linked to various anti-social behaviors. Europe is committing suicide by letting them in.
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>>74260330
I'm begging now bro
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>AM-MMMMMERICA DUN CARE

Why create the thread and shitpost about how buttblasted the UK is when the UK hasn't really said anything that's assblasted. The only assblasting is coming from the Ameridiabetics going "FUCK U LIMEY LOLOLOL LIMEY".

No one likes America and for good reason, you're a cunt blister of pus infected with #BLM, feminism, SJW, Jewish enabling, melting pot, multi culti loving crap, you arm splinter groups across the world and it comes to bite you in the arse then you complain about it, you rely on NATO to push this agenda through Europe and place puppets like Merkel and Hollande in charge as they do your bidding, now someone, a pathetic little London mayor with no power whatsoever, calls you out on one issue and you think it's worse than 9/11.

Really now? America you've been a very naughty imperial power and naughty imperial powers get their comeuppance, you are not exempt from this rule.

TTIP will not be pushed through the EU, the EU will no longer do America's bidding of accepting rapefugees caused by your displacement and funding of the house of Saud.

No, the EU shills ITT the little shitholes like Serbia and Slavic fuck rape babies think this harms the UK because they've been conditioned like Muslims to hate anything white. They'll soon learn that this is medicine and sometimes medicine has to be force fed.

And it will be force fed to Europe, like it was twice before and all the times before that.
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>>74259877
I think Trump understands Muslims perfectly, that's why he wants to ban them.
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>>74259941

>The world loves America because it's so dependable and relatively stable.

Stop brown-nosing. No one loves America, and we know this.

But here's the deal: There's a very good reason Donald Trump is winning, and will win the Presidency - isolationism.

Fact is, we don't need allies. YOU need allies. We are the juggernaut. We could, if necessary, stand against the entire rest of the world if it came to it. We have a TREMENDOUS technological edge on everyone else, and we are the only nation with military bases in every corner of the globe.

We are the empire now.

People in the USA are getting tired of dealing with other nations' problems when we've got plenty of internal problems of our own. There is very little sympathy in the USA for the problems of Europe - you are the ones who decided to escort the enemy through the gate.

What's going to happen if and when Trump wins is not a tanking of the global economy. What's going to happen is, our economy is going to sky-rocket, and YOUR economy is going to tank. Great Britain, and many other nations, have for too long relied on their "little brother" relationship with the USA. It's going to be a rude awakening when Big Brother goes off to college and he's not around to defend you from bullies anymore.

If I were a U.S. ally right now, I'd be thinking in terms of something JFK once said - paraphrased of course:

"Ask not what the USA can do for you. Ask what you can do for the USA."

And start doing it. ASAP.
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>>74260475
You have a very strange concept of the groups involved in these things. Good luck with the shivving you'll get next year.
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>>74260475
now this is grade A premium asshurt
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>>74260542
>There is very little sympathy in the USA for the problems of Europe
this
go ask the average US citizen aka not a bernie supporter what they think about yurocucks threatening us
they'll tell them to fuck off
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>>74260418

Bullshit, entire parts of London are de facto miniature muslim countries.

You're ceding territory to these inbred goat fuckers.
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>>74252649
Fuck the British let's reignite our relationship with Russia
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>>74252649
You would rather have a diplomatic bond than further the fucking of the already 63% white demographic in america and continuous disrespect of white people?
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>>74252649
I don't care anymore, the Britain right now isn't the same Britain from the past. I doubt they''ll ever get rid of their muslims, it seems impossible unless they pull a full fledged government-backed genocide possibly starting wars in the process.
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>>74252759
Fpbp
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>>74260446
This. They've been doing it for 1400 years too... and people wonder why the average IQ of arabians is a rough 80

To be honest, purge them all
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>>74260070
I happen to agree. You might be epic shitposters but at least you are a good ally
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>>74260231
What does this have to do with anything, Ibrahim?
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>>74260568
Predictable.

>>74260542
Israel and all the good goy nations brown nose you and love you because you're such a good goy and a good cash cow. I mean how much is it you're paying countries like Egypt to be friends with Israel?

Such good goyim really.

>>74260562
There's far more groups involved, but the ramblings of a powerless mayor that doesn't even control the City shouldn't irk anyone. If Trump wanted to feel threatened by anyone, it should be the monarchy, but I think old Philip and her Maj find him amusing so relax.

>>74260542
>"Ask not what the USA can do for you. Ask what you can do for the USA."
People have been doing that long enough, they're sick of it, hence why you have countries like France that slag you off to no end (we have to defend you) and countries like Germany that slag you off behind your back and insult your people, then when Obama comes to town or any US president they are best friends with you and pretend to be your friend.

At least we're honest, if we don't like something or someone we will fucking tell them to their faces. Europeans are cowards as Thatcher said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzAwro8M90

Weak.
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>>74252649
KHAND
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>>74260711
this desu
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>>74252649
What, didn't Trump say he won't put the UK at the back of the line? Isn't Obama the one who said he would? Did I switch to the Berenstain universe again or did everyone forget Obama is the one who would weaken the bond, not Trump?
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>>74260711
>Russia-US alliance will happen in your lifetime
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At this point any reasonable person would say fuck it and let Russia eat Europe.
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>>74260542

>What's going to happen if and when Trump wins is not a tanking of the global economy. What's going to happen is, our economy is going to sky-rocket, and YOUR economy is going to tank.

Holy shit. You're... you're not really that retarded are you? How exactly is Trump going to make your economy skyrocket?
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>>74253615
We have a larger population fuck wit your white population is condensed in cities ours is not dumbass
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>the kang becomes potus
>pulls the United States out of nato
>yurop collectively shits their pants

trumpen pls make it happen. it will force europe to get if their high horse and start thinking rationally
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>>74260939
Khan is a few steps away from either A. being involved in an accident that ends with his poor life being tragically ended.

B. An expenses or corruption scandal that will force him to resign.

>>74261022
Russia couldn't, even if they tried and they have tried, quite a few times when Europe has been weaker. They failed, they'll fail again.

They don't have money for 56k dial up internet, let alone a military or conscripts that have eaten in a week.
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>>74260542
hmm, what could I do for america?

do you like foot massages?

I could fetch you beers from your fridge

>>74260939
that's true, I hope he makes a big show of requesting the return of the churchill bust
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>>74261053
Hasn't Trump gone bankrupt a load of times?

lol.. Skyrocket, I'm sure, completely out the atmosphere.

Ahahahahha
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>>74261136
Call me ignorant, but when has Russia tried to take over Western or Central Europe?
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>>74261192
You're aware that filing bankrupcy is an economical move, right?
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>>74261316

>you're aware that failing is an economic move, right?

Ftfy spic
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>>74261192
>I don't know what filing Chapter 11 means.
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>>74252649
>Unironically believing the special relationship exists
Yeah nah you backstabbing fucks killed that off years ago desu.
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>>74257914
They're starting to, white people are gentrifying the shit out of a lot of major US cities, making them safer than every before. Meanwhile, niggers are losing their minds that they can't shit up their old neighborhoods anymore.

My parents lived in St. Louis in the 80s, the house next door to them was a Crack house. Present day it's a vegan bakery.
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>>74261053

>How exactly is Trump going to make your economy skyrocket?

Like most Brits, you don't understand the realpolitik that underlies all of economics.

Economics is not about money, and never has been. Economics is about leverage. Leverage is power. And power is everything.

The USA is like a loan shark. We're the strongest guy in the neighborhood. We'll help you out, but you will pay, on time, or there will be trouble for you. And if by some chance we end up owing you something, you'll get it - when we're ready to give it to you and not sooner.

A Trump Presidency is going to be the economic equivalent of calling in all markers and closing up shop. And we've got a LOT of markers out there, particularly with the UK.

Now, on a softer note, we Americans do generally consider the UK to be our closest ally. We are culturally very similar, we share a language, and the romanticism of our alliance in WWII has not worn off completely.

But there seems to be a sentiment in the UK that's rising up, a sentiment that it's okay to behave in ways that the USA disapproves of. You've elected a Muslim mayor of your largest city. You're PM has spoken out against Muslim exclusion in the USA.

It's like you've suddenly become Islam apologists. And frankly, we've got very little tolerance for Muslims here. Period. We don't like them. We never will. They are the enemy. For good reason.

So you know, "friend," you can just keep on doing whatever the hell you want and relying on our increasingly one-sided "alliance" to keep you on good terms with us.

But I'd strongly suggest that you take a look at yourselves and ask why we should continue to support your position, when it seems to be diametrically opposed to our interests, while at the same time we are well-aware that you need us a hell of a lot more than we need you.

Cultural similarities will only get you so far in the modern world. Either get on the team, or get BTFO IMO.
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>>74252649

>OP thinks America needs the rest of the world to function

killyourself
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Dave won't be PM by the time Trump is sworn in.
He will have been replaced by Boris after brexit
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>>74256403

Shouldn't you be out infiltrating the GSPC you fucking bouhyouf ?
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Why the fuck should US voters care about Britain?

Also it was Obama who made threats about cutting off free trade with the UK if we leave the EU, lol
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>>74261915
Yep, and Trump said that a Brexit wouldn't have an effect on Trade Deals with the UK.

Didn't Obama also return that Churchill bust you guys gave us awhile ago?
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>>74261915
Why do foreigners post in Trumpgen?

Same principle.
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>>74261725
"America" can't even produce enough XXXXL shirts for her people to wear.
You import everything. You sure as fuck need other countries to function.
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>>74257576
>The US will preserve the English language, common law and individual liberties.
Isn't American English the older type of English or is it just a meme?
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>>74252649
>implying the UK didn't ruin the relationship first by electing a mudslime
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Why is Britain so adamant about Muslims? Whenever they are crying about America, it always has something to do with Muslims.
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>>74256662
>So Trump won't have a good relationship with the politicians who wish to push agendas that are harmful to the British people?

Ironic, that one is, huh?
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>>74261136
>They don't have money for 56k dial up internet, let alone a military or conscripts that have eaten in a week.
Are you legitimately retarded? Our cell phone connection and internet including 4g is cheapest in Europe and Asia. Also, our army is second most powerful on the planet, but we don't need to invade Europe, why would we?
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>>74262641
to steal our tea and feast in our houses of curry
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>>74261384
This
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>>74261709
>And if by some chance we end up owing you something, you'll get it - when we're ready to give it to you and not sooner.
>$19 trillion
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>>74262733
>tea
That's not like any tea is made in Britain anyway
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>>74262193
Bulgaria you clearly don't understand how the global economy. America is one of the biggest cotton producers on the planet, you think we couldn't make our own fucking shirts?
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>>74252649
What good is an ally that won't even defend it's own children? Britain isn't an asset, it's a liability.
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>>74262849
You'd be surprised
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>>74252649
We don't have a special relationship with Britain. The Jews took them before they took us and that is how we are linked. I'm sure we could be bro tier with the bongs, but our "special relationship" is coming from Israel and. Needs To Be Stumped
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>>74252649
it's a london mayor not the the Queen. kill yourself if you think a mudslime is going to speak for everyone. You're subconsciously thinking like liberal, you faggot
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>>74262821

Speaking of countries that don't understand economics, hello Canada.

Only 34% of the USA's national debt is owed to international investors. The rest of it is owed to...wait for it...the USA.
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>Trump makes America great again
>every other country gets invaded by muslims and burn in the fire because of it.
>USA and other countries who are smart enough to kick out the muslims thrive and form an alliance together

It's going to be great
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>>74260843

Most people don't get it. There are only two ways to deal with the Muslim world that lead to peace for the rest of the world:

Contain them. Those boats crossing the Med? Sink them, even if they start putting women and children on them. Europe only got the tippy top of the tip of the iceberg last year when it comes to Muslim immigration. Sink them to discourage them from coming, and man the borders with machine guns. One or two million in a year ain't shit compared to what you're facing in the future. Just wait until those oil revenues go away. One or two million in a month is more like it then.

The other method is to just blow them the fuck up. De-mothball the B-52s, load them up and carpet bomb the entire fucking region. We'd have to go in and secure oil fields first for the obvious reasons, but there is no fixing the Islamic world given all that inbreeding.

Anything inbetween is just a waste of resources.
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if we don't brexit we're as good as caliphate clay anyway
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>>74262821
Yeah, and what the fuck can you do about it? You can't do shit, leaf. Only Russia has a chance to fuck America and only by nuking the whole planet. Burger is right, America doesn't care about 19 gorillion and 199 gorillion
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>>74259941
He isn't mad, seriously this shot is getting old. Out of all the candidates he was one of the only ones who didn't want to shoot Russian planes down or punch Russia n the nose.
He has no problem blowing the duck out of isis, temporary ban on Muslims entering the country from the middle east, and nothing wrong with enforcing immigration law.
Why did you keep spouting off "mug madman". If anyone is mad it's your leaders for bringing in millions of animals from the middle east and africa. By animals I mean people who have come from regions ruled by an ideology that I'd a danger to western society. These people act like animals and abuse the generosity given to them. If anyone is mad it's your leaders who are pussies down to the core.

Latino voting for Trump because this isn't an issue on race or hate it's one about pride of country and the want to fix it. If America doesn't change direction now it will continue down a road to its end. Wake the fuck up.
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>>74263516
>duck

shouldn't you be shitposting in a MTG thread
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>>74263206
>""""""only"""""" owes $6 trillion to international investors
>w-we will pay you back
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>>74263490
Russia bro rekking like it's 1945.
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>>74261709
Economics is about energy supplies. You don't have modern commerce without energy. You don't have modern power without energy. Energy allows you to do work: Force times Distance. It gets shit done. Literally.
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>>74263516
Well why the fuck would US need allies like UK, Saudi Arabia or Israel? Russia is worth more than whole EU military speaking and might offer to begin dialogue with countries like Iran.
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>>74263641
>no arguments
>pick a autocorrected word
What I expected honestly. Also what is MTG?
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>>74260891
It's good in theory leaf but the problem is our currencies and the American dollar has been holding back the ruble the Russians are forced to convert to American dollars to buy exports
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>>74263490
>implying you personally have any power to do anything besides shoot up your arm with gasoline in your mom's crack shed
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>>74263820

I'm not disagreeing with him, he's just the cunt that's always saying 'duck' instead of fuck on /tg/
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>>74263747
I agree, Russia seems to be one of the last European countries with some balls. I would rather be allied with you guys than the current west. Sick of hearing their stupid rhetoric of "be nice, if we kill them they win, Muslims are all good and just bring them in". We are going to kill ourselves out of sheer stupidity.
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>>74260234
Obama is just mad about Brits colonizing Kenya.

TOO BAD Obama.
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>>74263946
Well unlike you, I am a productive member of society, /fit/, served in my country's armed forces and try to do the best for my country. But some cuck leaf wouldn't know about any of those things, would he?
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Reminder if BoJo gets in power the friendship will only get stronger.

Resign already, Cameron. You're a cuck.
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>>74263029
>yfw Britain is to America like North Korea is to China
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I couldn't care how much Trump hurts some muslim mayors or brits feelings. The EU needs the US not the other way around. Once they finally realize this they'll be begging to lick Trump's feet.
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>>74263747
>thinking this highly of yourself

Your army is outdated and all for show. You might beat the EU, but America would crush you in minutes.
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>>74264223
>working out
My nigga, I would workout with you and have a steak afterwards comrade.
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>>74263029
4th Biggest army on earth, Bitch.
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>>74264223
>and try to do the best for my country
Might want to try a bit harder there m8
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>>74264038
Well Europe is already done, just look up who makes population 0-20 y.o in Germany or France. But Russia and US should make a new alliance, we don't have anything to really fight over.
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>Sa-dick and David "Who even likes this faggot" Cameron hit Trump
>He hits back, stressing that he wants good relations with as many as possible
>IS THE US GONNA NUKE THE UK?
fuck news media. No one in Britain cares about a Muslim ban, probably >40% support one
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>tfw the US will remember the United Caliphates' words
Enjoy your last year on this planet.
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>>74264279
Kek, that is actually true. But at least Norks didn't elect a fucking muslim in Pyongyang.
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>>74264484
Reminder Russia has the highest Muslim Ratio of any European country.

11.7% ;)
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>>74264484
Yeah we have way more to benefit from an alliance. People here need to stop acting like the cold war is still a thing.
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>>74263642

>w-we will pay you back

>gets corrected

>can't accept it

Actually we do pay people back. That $6 trillion hasn't been owed forever, it's like a revolving line of credit.

It's called deficit spending. You can only participate in deficit spending when you have two things going for you:

1. Fiat currency
2. The power to tell people to fuck off until you're ready to pay them

One does not simply rack up a $6 trillion dollar debt if there's no payback or remittance. We have a sterling credit rating - the highest. All other credit ratings on the planet are based off of the USA's perfect record of paying back monies owed, with interest.

And again, I remind you, we don't have to pay back shit. But we do anyway. Because that's how economics works. WE are the arbiters of the international economic condition. If we stopped allowing international investment, it would be your loss, not ours.

That $6 trillion dollars is the only thing standing between Europe and economic meltdown TBDesu. Having a marker from the USA is just as good as having gold stacked up in a vault.
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>>74252759
This
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>>74264540
Every man I know in my area supports it (I live in South England). It's women who think with their emotions who dominate the commentary.

Our men are genuinely pretty redpilled.
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>>74264484
When Trump and Putin become bros, that alliance will become a reality comrade.
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>>74264550
>intense dubstep
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>>74264328
http://warontherocks.com/2016/04/outnumbered-outranged-and-outgunned-how-russia-defeats-nato/
Yeah right, even American generals admit we can crush both EU and US soldiers in Europe, it would take a bloodbath for americans to invade Europe or Far East.
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>>74264707
Universal suffrage was a grave mistake
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>>74264638
I seem to recall a bunch of mortgage backed securities that had a sterling credit rating too. When interest rates normalize due to market forces, our credit will go from sterling to shit in a hurry.
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>>74264590
Reminder that 10% of them were conquered 500 years ago, retard. Now you are more muslim then they are.
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>>74264859
>invade
We would just hit you with EMP's until everybody reverted back to cave dwelling
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>>74264038
kek trusting a russian is not a good idea.
a pity your education system only focused on slavery otherwise you would have known that.
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I never understood why we became allies with the british. Our nation was forged in a war to break free from those limeys. And then a few decades later they burned down our capital. Fuck em.
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>>74252649
>Cameron and Prince Sadiq make unprofessional comments about a foreign politician who's campaign has nothing to do with them
>makes them look good in the papers because they clearly know its the CURRENT YEAR
>refuse to apologise or take back comments like a good diplomat would
>it's somehow Trump's fault that UK politicians are sticking their noses into US affairs and refusing to apologise, like stubborn children

This isn't news, and if the US/UK relationship goes downhill it'll be because of our cucked piece of shit people, not your end. Pretty bad at the moment t b h, with Obongo blaming the UK for the "shitshow" in Syria, Libya etc when all we ever do is back him up like a shitty sidekick.
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>>74264590
Russia fought back the muslim and mongol hordes, though
You're just sitting back and letting it happen.
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>>74264590
Because we rule Tatarstan and Caucasus since 17th century, dipshit. Nobody bitched about muslim population in Algeria when french empire was a thing
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>>74264974
>>74265147
>>74265149

We're 4.8% Muslim.

It's not about how long they've been here, it's how much of that cancer you have in your country.

>>74265093
Google Treaty of Ghent
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>>74264638
Tbh I was just busting your balls out of sheer boredom I have actually been scooping up cheap American stocks during the dips in the last few months
It's nice to be able to live in a socialist country and invest in a capitalist country
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>>74264859
Not only that but it would be a logistical nightmare trying to supply a war against Russia. Also we wouldn't have shit to gain from it, Russia is one of the only countries I see not letting Muslims control their life.
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>>74265062
The American education system is heavily anti-Russian. Nice work using a meme though.
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>>74259842
>7% of whites have a spouse whose race was different from their own
Nice reading comprehension Pedro.
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>>74264598
People hoped that it would happen in 90's, but NATO just fucked us over by crawling near our borders, toppling and invading our allies.
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>>74252649
Good. The "special relationship" with the UK, like all 'special relationships' is bad for both nations. Both will be better off when we end it.
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>>74265421
Asian puss be rich chap.
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>>74265062
If anything our media is the most antinrussian out of all of them nigger
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>>74261136
Khans mayor hood will result in nigger chimp outs in London. After he loses re election, and he will, he'll be exposed as a money grabber.

Pol will expose him as being a Jewish puppet very shortly.
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>>74265513
atleast your media has gotten something right
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>>74265062
>a pity your education system only focused on slavery
Ouch, it's all too true. American """""education"""" consists entirely of colonial white guilt.
I had THREE different jewish holocaust guest speakers come to my school over my career. They even forced my entire class to go see a film as a field trip.
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>>74265457
Honestly I'd like it so we stop being your lap dog. It's humiliating. I just want Britain to be able to compete again.
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>>74265490
Won't dispute that.
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>>74265240
Cucks are real cancer. If you have 5% muslim, when why fuck is your major a paki?
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>>74265603
My nigga.
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>>74265626
White guilt
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>>74265240
I won't argue with retard like you, If you see no difference between Tatar-muslim who was under demuslimisation since he was conquered 500 years ago and London sharia-police, it's not my problem.
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Fuck it, just listen to the words of George Washington and stop getting caught in entangling alliances

Trump's all about making good deals, and that's more along the lines of what this country was founded on
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The big black bitch is breathing into the mic
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>>74265626
Because all of them are concentrated in East London.

44% of London bothered to vote. Most of that was in East London.

Our people need to learn to stand up. Thank god UKIP is booming.

>>74265730
>London Sharia Police
I won't argue with someone who bases their argument on memes they saw on a jpg of a 6 year old Sun article.
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>>74265660
Well it kinda proves my point, 5% of mudslimes is worse than 11% if nobody keeps them in check
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>>74264963

There's a difference in domestic economics and international economics. What you're talking about is an internal issue that has nothing to do with our international credit rating.

I'm not saying our domestic economy is great. We have problems, not the least of which is that our economy is so top-heavy (e.g., banks that are "too big to fail") and intrinsically unfair to the working class that any little tremor on Wall Street ends up as an earthquake of epic proportions on Main Street.

But again, this is an internal problem. And in fact, what Trump is proposing - isolationist policies and monetary demands on our allies - would result in far fewer tremors at the top.

That's why he's got the working class vote in the bag. People are not as stupid as people think they are.
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>>74265827
Get UKIP faster damn.
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>>74259941
>the world loves America
No they don't. They always bitch and complain about us. Well you know what if your just going to bitch and complain we can fuck off. And thats what we are going to do.
>waahhhh american imperalists are everywhere
>waaahhh Americans are becoming isolationists gibs me mo money
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>>74252649
It's a risk I'm willing to take.

>implying Obama didn't have a hand in this faggot's election
>d-don't e-elect the Don, goyim, it'll compromise the relationship with our political appointees!
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>>74252649

We shouldn't be allied with Muslim countries anyway.
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Like the UK has the balls to actually step out from America's shadow into the big bad world. That would be jingoist and eurocentric.

We can ban a toxic ideology and still keep the UK as our bitch.
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>>74265920
A surprising amount of teenagers in my area support it. Nationalism is pretty cool now. You'll see a huge surge over the next few years.
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We're going to make you limes pay for 1812. We haven't forgotten
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>>74265827
>Booming
>4 total members in house of commons and lords
You can't win if game is rigged against you.
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>>74265600
Humiliating for you, embarrassing for us, and there's no value gained to make up for that. The alliance makes us both less safe, it makes us both poorer, and it limits our options for the future.

Plus there's always the risk when you support one regime that the next to take power is going to hate you as a result.

It's just not worth it, it's poor play as a result of diplomats and politicians who like to big themselves up but can't be bothered to understand the consequences for the general welfare.
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>>74265827
> on memes they saw
You base your arguments on the same level of knowledge.
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>>74266068
you using these big words but i dont think they mean what you think they mean.
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>>74252649
>Globalists complain that Trump wants to put america first.

As an american why should I care? If my allies don't want me to act in my own self interest that is not an ally worth having.
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>>74266101
Our seat system multiplies as votes grow, retard. UKIP is the 3rd largest party today, after being literally who 10 years ago.

>>74266159
Muslim stats aren't memes, Dmitry.

>>74266142
I still want a friendship though. We are pretty much one and the same culturally.
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>>74259990
>No railgun for you.
oops, navy beat you to that.
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>>74252649
I don't give a shit what Muslim invaders in Britain think about our next President.
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>>74264803
>this music as Europe watches Trump ascend to the presidency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htDB8SuLrng
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>>74266069
UKIP is mostly teenagers and alpha dads with over 5 kids before their forklift license.

UKIP will beat labour in 2020.
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>>74266069
Makes me feel good.
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Why do i care about being allies with a islamic country?
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>>74265907
No, what I'm talking about is a situation where the Fed has to print money just so that it can afford to print more money and the government has to borrow even more money just so that it can afford to borrow even more money. When interest rates normalize, it will swamp the federal budget. It won't matter if the dollars are owed domestically or to foreign central banks.

Furthermore, we cannot ignore international issues because of the petrodollar system. If we do, countries will stop trading using the dollar, which will send a shitload of dollars back to our homeland and will eliminate most of our ability to import crude oil. Something like 50% of our supply is imported, so that's kind of a civil war, people starving to death big deal.
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>>74266298
>I still want a friendship though. We are pretty much one and the same culturally.
Friendship between nations is a problematic concept though. Nations cannot have permanent friends - only permanent interests.

I honestly believe the best that could be done is what Washington advised - strict neutrality at the government level. Of course as people we are close and can easily make friendships and do business together.
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>>74252649
>Letting a muslim country tell you what to do

Nah
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>>74252649
The British hate our government, we hate Obama and his government, we hate all the immigration from Muslim shitholes and how we're expected to pander to them. Trump is right. Millions of us would gladly sacrifice the "benefits" of liberal policies to once more be a friend to the USA.
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>>74266298
Wikipedia says it's barely 4th. Besides, all the cucked traitors will ally against Ukip to prevent them from doing anything useful
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>>74259877
>Most of them are misunderstood, desu.
All they want is to convert everyone in the world to islam by the sword for world wide domination.
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>>74253249
Muslims and Leftists* fixed it for you pal.
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>>74252649
Obama destroyed far more of the "special relationship" than Trump would ever do
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>>74266206

Come on man, you missed a perfect opportunity for a Princess Bride reference.

'eurocentric' and 'jingoistic' are common ones thrown at anyone in the UK that might suggest that their culture has any merit. Putting British culture above immigrant culture is often liked to a new colonialism and other bullshit.

And Islam is a toxic ideology... if you disagree with that, then I don't think we'll find much to agree on.
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>>74266614
Lib Dems are destroyed so yeah, 3rd. Shit has changed since last May.
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AS A BLACK WOMAN

one man one vote, no one gives a shit
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>>74259877
>Don't understand Muslims
I understand plenty, the statistics show a disproportionate amount who support radical polcies. Not all do but I'm sorry I'm not risking my skin with a people who have an insanely large amount of people supporting radicals in some way. I don't support these people trying to change laws in new countries to match the ones back in their shit hole.
They are a threat to our nation's security and if you honestly can't understand that then I'm sorry anon and I can actually see why your country is closer and closer to biting the bullet.
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Jesus the Media cant stop shilling this guy can they

Hes a fucking Mayor, even if its the Capitol, hes not important
But because hes Muslim they act like his opinions are relevant in some way
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>>74261448
>i'm an economic retard
Even beside the point, most billionaires have multiple bankruptcies. All this does is prove your complete lack of understanding.
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>>74266457

Our reliance on foreign oil is steadily decreasing. The advent of electric cars and green power is here, it's a movement that's been gaining momentum for a long time and continues to do so.

Obviously there are plenty of American businessmen who are so embedded in the status quo of the oil industry that they lobby hard to keep us burning fossil fuels.

But if our foreign oil supply were cut off completely today, we'd recover. We have the technology, it's just a question of putting it into mass production.

Foreign oil reliance is a thing. But it's less of a thing now than it was 20 years ago, and it will continue to be less of a thing until it's just not a thing at all.

We have enough oil in the USA to run our military. As long as that's the case, foreign oil is merely a convenience.

But let's be even more frank - the countries that supply us with oil are a lot more dependent on petrodollars than we are. No one in Saudi Arabia is looking for a reason to stop selling us oil, more like they're looking for ways to sell us more.

That's why you have the current drop in oil prices - Saudi Arabia got too greedy, produced too much, at the same time the USA was opening up new fields in North Dakota, Alaska, and the Gulf of Mexico.
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>>74252649
>So you're willing to sacrifice our alliance with Britain for the sake of MUH MUSLIM BAN?
Yes. Actually.

Grandpa Britain needs us more than we need him.
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>>74261662
Isn't funny that everywhere white people go the crime rate drops. Whether they flee from niggers or head straight at them.
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