>B-but Alex Jones told me global warming is a lie !?
>>74242338
>Pretending like buying a Prius will help and that it's not 99% big corporations and China fucking up the air
>>74242532
>99% big corporations and China fucking up the air
and who buys their products?
>>74242338
>166 years to rise 1 degree
Wow...
>>74242338
the ice age ended faggot. global temperatures have been increasing ever since
>>74242338
It's a global banking tax scheme to fully enslave humanity into neo-Feudalism -- it's so fucking obvious.
All the real scientists with real data have been witch-hunted, having been prevented from jobs in academia, literally killed, or stripped of funding.
I would link videos with fully cited material but everytime I do, anons get butthurt and be all like, "I aint watching that shit"
so fuck you Germany, and by the way what are you doing on /pol/ shouldn't you be protecting your sister from rape?
>>74242338
>1.5 degrees over the course of 160+ years
Wow, really makes you think. I guess I'm a #CruzMissile now.
>>74243688
>It's a global banking tax scheme to fully enslave humanity into neo-Feudalism -- it's so fucking obvious.
>muh conspiracy fallacy
>All the real scientists with real data have been witch-hunted, having been prevented from jobs in academia, literally killed, or stripped of funding.
>muh everybody is corrupted but me fallacy
>I would link videos with fully cited material but everytime I do, anons get butthurt and be all like, "I aint watching that shit"
>muh I have the evidence but you wouldn't acknowledge it fallacy
>so fuck you Germany, and by the way what are you doing on /pol/ shouldn't you be protecting your sister from rape?
>muh rapefugee fallacy
>>74244029
You're being silly as fuck, OP.
>>74244029
nevermind, you're not OP
you're just another German
just like the rest of em
>>74243507
Oh really? Do you have any sources where genuine climate scientists provide that evidence and support your conclusions?
I still don't get how the temperature rising 1 degree in 166 years will kill us all.
>>74244225
What is the rest like? Why do you conclude I am like them. What is your basis for your judgment? Care to elaborate senpai?
>>74242532
>>74243507
>>74243688
>>74243819
>>74244205
>>74244225
>Hurr durr conspiracy theories
When will you realise that it's not good to pump billions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Nobody is denying that the planet is currently warming and that the climate is changing as a result - we are disputing the cause of it.
>>74244325
Germans share a single consciousness, don't act like you're not them, because you're all them -- the same. It's just an act, we know you're not separate from the whole of them, Klaus, Hildagarde, Gretchen, the whole lot of you -- we're on to you.
>>74244468
When will you realize it's not good to pump tons of (((tolerance))) and (((progress))) and (((diversity))) into your country?
>>74244468
CO2 is great, we need more of it, quite frankly.
>>74242338
Nice gif with no sources
>>74244543
>Germans share a single consciousness
>[citation needed]
>>74242338
You niggers are retarded its a el nino year
>>74242338
Leftist climate shill pls go
>>74244619
here's your citation: [citation]
How's the weather, look out your window anon, what is the weather like?
>>74244697
That's not a citation senpai.
Btw, its very cloudy today.
http://de.sat24.com/de/de
>>74242338
>average temperature goes up
>worldwide population explodes at the same time
>these two facts are somehow unrelated
This is why I hate the retarded green lobby
>>74244819
The green activists are also rampant anti-humanists
So to the deniers what is the effect of pumping a shitton if chemicals into the atmosphere over decades?
>>74244864
a shitton of*
>>74242338
>1850 had global temperature records
>>74244818
I'm sOoOooOooo sleepy, Germany.
Leave me alone, you guys make me hecka sad because you're acting like a buncha sucker ass punks and not protecting all the white women from the rape monkeys.
I feel like swimming over the Atlantic and trudging my way through Face on my way to Germany so I could kill the Mudslimes and protect you guise.
Why you so fucking gay now?? god what's with you guise. I hate it, RISE GERMANY... RISE!!!
so sad, so sad
so much potential, wasted
fucking cunts, y you do this??
i just feel so sick to my stomach thinking about y'all
man this sucks, you let erryone down
>>74245079
France** not Face
I will trudge through France, not your face.
g'nite stupid ass Europe, you guys are a buncha homos
>>74245079
I am sorry we are such cucks in your eyes ;_;
Why are you awake anyway? Isn't it like 2am where you live?
>>74244819
Who said the green activists don't correlate population growth with temperature increases? [source]
>>74244543
mate that is a very unscientific generalization.
imo CO2 does effect global warming but not to the extend "scientists! aka the UN want us make to believe but in a far less severe effect.
>>74242338
Global Warming is a natural process that has occurred previously in the past.
It would seem we are having an affect on it, but only a negligible one if you look at the data. That means going back more than just a hundred years friendo.
>>74244323
>ice caps partially melt
>sea levels rise
>coastal cities and island nations wiped out
>larger refugee crisis and depletion of farmland
>less food for everyone
>world war
>>74245165
I can't sleep because I've been thinking about this mess.
Anyways, sorry for the harsh words...
Here, I give you this butthole as a parting gift.
and remember, when the time comes I will cover you with suppressive gun fire when we take on the Muzz.
g'night Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWmqCfZy68Y
>>74245257
>only a negligible one
What criteria are you basing these statements?
>Global warming
>Hey lets find real ways to solve it
>NO, but do put regulations and taxes on human activity and not trying to directly solve the problem instead
This is how retarded the cap and trade people sounds to me.
>>74245202
CO2 can have "weak" effects compared to other greenhouse gases, but since CO2 is the most frequent gas in the atmosphere it has the biggest impact in total.
>>74245316
Sleep well, prince.
>>74244538
>that graph
Okay so if you are sober and you drink twenty beers you will become drunk right? Why does this happen? Because alcohol has entered your blood stream.
The atmosphere was protecting the earth from the sun and regulating temperature so things could function normally. People burned tons and tons and tons of fossil fuels, releasing CO2 into the atmosphere, which causes it to degrade.
>>74245438
>Let's just poison the water and see how it kills
As long as it's not """our""" water.
>>74245438
>taiwan doesnt understand how to stop shitting up the earth
See heres the problem
You chinks dont even care
>>74245670
This US used Taiwan as a dumping ground for spent batteries and you blame the Taiwanese.
>>74245520
You're confusing le ozone depletion with le greenhouse gasses.
>>74245753
No i blame chinks in general for making any effort the waste could possibly make be in vein
even if global warming is real, it's literally impossible for western countries to stop it as long as China and India don't help. It's just used as an excuse to control people and funnel money to "green energy" scams
>>74245921
>be in vein
Shut up you dipshit junkie.
>>74245942
i mean if we all kill ourselves by crippling our economy trying to save the planet from what little we're doing to it than we'll kill china by not being able to buy anything from them
so theres that
>>74245942
The race to oblivion. We're all losers.
>>74244910
First of all, temp. measurement was a thing back then but I think it is determined by the depth and density of the ice on the poles.
>>74244864
Warmer air will cause deserts like the Sahara to become Savanna, again. CO2 will be absorbed by phytoplankton and new plant growth. Everything goes in a cycle. In the mean time, enjoy the long summers and short winters.
>>74245942
How is green energy a scam? It's a renewable resource that if adopted early enough could save us from being economically dependent on oil exporting countries.
>>74246423
Also, enjoy the economic impact of running out of natural gas in the next 100 years.
>>74246423
> short winters
Nigga it has rained here constantly 8 months and only sun the last two weeks
I want some fucking snow
>>74245391
>>74246427
no renewable resource is reliable enough to form the basis of a power grid. running a power grid off renewables requires massive banks of batteries because their output can't be artificially managed like fossil fuels or nuclear
>>74246547
Exxon shill detected.
>Gore predicted, when his film “An Inconvenient Truth” was first released at the Sundance Film Festival, that the earth would be in “a true planetary emergency” within the next ten years unless drastic action was taken to reduce greenhouse gases.
>CBS News reported at the time that Gore’s film predicted the worst-case scenarios would be a new ice age in Europe, massive floods in China, India, and other areas.
>>74242338
You realize the raw data shows a very slight cooling trend right?
>>74246547
It doesn't heat per se, it's like wearing a coat. If it is thick enough, it will keep all your body heat, and adding more layers will not change your body heat amount. We have so much greenhouse gases in our atmosphere, that the heat is melting global ice caps and raising the sea levels. That causes floods n shiet. Even if this was not created by humans, we are definitely a contributing factor and letting nature do it's thing would ultimately cause our extinction.
>>74246778
I believe that idea came from the hypothesis that the gulf stream would slow.
>>74242338
Why not show in the same format, data over the past 200m years?
>Oh because then it becomes apparent Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles
:^ ) Golly gee
![Halloween_Sun_2014[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8Nu1O49.jpg "Halloween_Sun_2014[1].jpg")
>yes goy CO2 is the problem thats right stop burning coal and buy my expensive solar panels instead good goy
>>74246662
Massive battery banks are needed for Nuclear energy as well. If you want you can read about it, but a nuclear power station is essentially the opposite of a solar pannel, it works all day everyday. The problem with that is that you can not regulate how much energy goes to the grid, so all excess energy is stored in batteries. We will need batteries for most power stations anyway and therefore it is not a talking point.
>>74247022
It does, but in those time periods, many species were wiped out by cyclical climate change. We cannot afford to let the earth do its cycle again.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle
The whole premise is faulty, as usual.
>>74247022
>>74247027
Why not take a bath in poison then?
Pollution from man is causing one of Earth's greatest extinction events in history.
>>74247143
Why would we want to stop a natural cycle? lmao
>>74246907
> that the heat is melting global ice caps and raising the sea levels
Except this isn't even true.
The northern ice caps are melting. You naively assume this is related to global temperature trends.
The truth is that the ice has been blackened by Chinese soot on the north pole. We are literally painting the northern ice cap black, it absorbs more sunlight, hence it melts faster.
This explains why the southern ice cap is growing (no soot pollution), but the northern ice cap is shrinking.
Soot pollution has explanatory property consistent with observation; global warming does not.
>>74247191
Because these natural cycles wiped out dinosaurs and many lifeforms before that. We will not survive a fucking ice age.
>scientists were able to accurately measure temperatures before 1920
Those thermometers back were not accurate. But sure, let's say global warming is happening. Prove it's anthropogenic and not the big hot star we have in the center of our system which goes through cycles.
>>74247191
It's not natural to poison the well water you drink from unless you are a suicidal sociopath.
>>74243053
A lot of the same people who made sure the jobs making the products are in China to begin with, instead of here in the US like they should be.
>>74247198
>not even blaming the Jews
Wow /pol/ you might be onto something...
>>74246907
>It doesn't heat per se, it's like wearing a coat. If it is thick enough, it will keep all your body heat, and adding more layers will not change your body heat amount.
That's not quite the same. Body heat is internally generated and radiates out. It is internally regulated. The earth traps heat from the sun.
>We have so much greenhouse gases in our atmosphere, that the heat is melting global ice caps and raising the sea levels. That causes floods n shiet.
Sea levels have been rising at a predictable rate for thousands of years. It's the result of emerging from an ice age.
>Even if this was not created by humans, we are definitely a contributing factor and letting nature do it's thing would ultimately cause our extinction.
Bull shit. A 1-3 degree increase in average global temperature is no threat to humans or most other species on earth. The day to day variance is more than that.
>>74247253
Who cares? Nature will recover and find a way. The weakest species will die and new ones will take their place. Don't you believe in evolution anon?
>>74247292
Where did these poisons come from?
>>74247316
Like Trump for instance.
>>74244468
>conspiracy theorist
A phrase literally coined by the intelligence community in the 1960's for the purpose of brainwashing the masses into marginalizing anyone who talks about government crime.
State funded TV is brainwashing the fuck out of you.
>>74247387
Most poisons come from oil byproducts. Insecticides, plastics, herbicides, etc
>>74242338
i am cold as fuck atm we need global warming
>>74244468
How arrogant. How about, the big fucking sun in our system goes through heating and cooling cycles like it always fucking has? Do you need to feel like turning off your lights is saving the world, Sven?
Prove it's anthropogenic with compelling empirical data.
>>74247506
I mean where did they originate from? Where did they reside before being used by humans?
>>74244468
Except that it actually is good.
Plants grow better with CO2 closer to the historic norm of ~450 ppm rather than the historic minimum of around ~250 we had 300 years ago.
We're making the planet healthy again and expanding our agricultural capacity.
>>74247506
Where did anthropogenic gases originate, he's asking. I'm wondering to?
>>74247531
You're blaming man made poisons on the sun.
That's a new reason to be a total douche. Congrats!
>>74242338
Where's before 1850?
>>74242338
150 years is not a long time.
>>74247634
Man-made poisons? Are you just exercising poetic license you hippy, or are you going to tell me where anthropogenic gases originate? Then tell me with empirical data how global warming is anthropogenic?
If you can prove all that, send a letter to China and India and see if they will stop burning so much coal. Kiss it. You may just become a Planeteer! Don't you want that ring?
>>74247162
There's no real evidence that we're actually living through a mass extinction. It's just one of those things that gets repeated until everyone believes it.
Global warming is a lie. The giant spike this year is thanks to El nino.
>>74247253
That was asteroids and volcanoes, not pick-up trucks and lawn mowers.
>>74247852
The current extinction rate is approximately 100 extinctions per million species per year, or 1,000 times higher than natural background rates. They also predict that future rates may be as much as 10,000 times higher.
Maybe you should take up reading before shitposting?
>>74242338
>manipulated data sets
>variations still well within normal levels with regard to historic temperatures.
Time to de-industrialize and give all production to the third world, they'll care about naure ;^p
>>74247994
Didn't you know?? Dinosaurs were driving gas-guzzlers and that's why it was so much hotter when they were alive than it is now.
Did you know Mars also experienced its own warming? The polar ice caps? Did you see those Martians driving gas-guzzlers too?
>>74248071
inb4
>Well on Mars it's a usual solar cycle but on Earth it's anthropogenic just because. Now buy our expensive shit.
Why are you ignoring the valid questions you've been asked? Are you going to school us or did you already form an opinion with little evidence to back it up, and when faced with a difficult question instead of learning you look to confirm your bias?
>>74248071
murifats should be nuked desu.
nice small eco cars you have. like fucking tanks.
>>74248071
Who gives a fuck?
I hate to break it to you, but humans are animals. We evolved on the same planet as every other animal. We're the top of the food chain.
If we make millions of species go extinct just to slightly improve our comfort levels, guess what? We fucking can, and that's perfectly natural, because we're the goddamn apex.
If an animal species wants to not die forever, it better be goddamn useful to the apex predator, otherwise it'll be wiped out like the lesser species it fucking is. That's the only reason the buffalo are still around - because we decided they could earn an existence by being eaten by us.
>>74247039
>nuke
>batteries
No. No. No.
The power grid has several different types of power plants that compliment each other.
Natural gas and turbine based power plants provide peak power when needed so nukes and coal fired power plants can run at optimum efficiency.
Nukes can back off power output by the way.
>>74248071
>natural background rates
Genius we ARE natural. Face that music.
>>74248071
>Maybe you should take up reading before shitposting?
OK.
Current biodiversity levels are as high as they have ever been int he history of the fucking world.
There is no mass extinction. If you ask someone what is going extinct, they'll tell you maybe some obscure beetles and other insects. Maybe. Somewhere. They can find a few species that have gone extinct, but no one can point to the tens of thousands that have supposedly disappeared.
The "6th mass extinction" is a fucking myth.
How do we know that this isn't some sort of cycle that takes hundreds of years where the temperature is either going down and up?
Do they think that the earths temperature is constant and has been constant for millions of year?
>>74248681
>If you ask someone what is going extinct, they'll tell you maybe some obscure beetles and other insects. Maybe. Somewhere.
Tigers. Pandas. Elephants. Rhinos.
Polar bears.
>>74248625
Yes that never sat well with me, even when I was bluepilled in my youth. Humans are a part of nature. We are fucking animals. Anything we do is by definition natural.
>>74248865
So literally nothing is "unnatural"? Then what does "natural" even mean? Absolutely nothing, since everything is natural. It's a meaningless word.
>>74248807
Those aren't extinct.
We've categorized 1.5 million of an estimated 5.5 million species. In the last 500 years there have been 514 land species and 15 ocean species that have gone extinct. Some others are listed as endangered. But there is no mass extinction.
The way it is usually described by careful authors is
>"If all currently threatened species were to go extinct in a few centuries and that rate continued the sixth mass extinction could come in a couple of centuries or a few millennia."
So if the current trend continues for another few thousand years, then we'll have a mass extinction. That's hardly a cause for concern, except when fear mongering headlines scream "SCIENTISTS CLAIM WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF A MASS EXTINCTION!!!!"
That's not how mass extinctions happened in the past. Those were very rapid events due to asteroids and volcanoes.
There is no mass extinction ongoing. It's a myth.
>>74248865
If nothing is unnatural then drink your poison.
Swallow gallons of oil, gas yourself, poison the wells and kill yourself, or would that feel """unnatural""" for you?
>>74249319
You don't need to be such an apologist drama queen about it.
>>74242338
>The weather systems of Earth must have been totally stable before 200 years ago. There is no possible way that the climate could have changed by itself.
>>74249006
Exactly, nothing is unnatural. "Artificial" is a dumb word. Is there a word for something monkies make? What about termite towers? Is that only natural because termites are way dumber than us? Makes no sense.
>>74249484
That's all natural buddy. News flash: There's plenty of "naturally-occurring" poisonous shit, and hazardous chemicals. They are all enabled to exist by - you guessed it - nature.
>>74249637
Translation: We don't want to take responsibility for our actions.
>>74249689
You're avoiding and dodging the point. Kill yourself.
>>74249484
You're a fucking idiot. I never said nothing was poisonous. You stupid hippies just use the word unnatural as a synonym for "bad/poisonous/negativewordsECT"
I worked in EDM and I heard your type prattle on about how "natural is so much better mannn" especially fucking mushrooms/mescaline containing cacti despite LSD having a massively better safety profile both toxicologically and psychically.
Anthrax is natural too, so why not go inhale a heaping spoonful? After all natural is always better for you right?
>>74249637
>the temperature started increasing significantly after the industrial revolution
.>PURE COINCIDENCE
>>74249770
Quit being such a drama queen faggot.
The point of the conversation is about what is a healthy environment and what is not and how we are culpable and responsible human beings in regards thereof.
Eat your acid and wake up.
74249755
You've ignored plenty of legit questions I've asked which any scientific mind should love to answer. Have you dared yet? Nah. You're only insulting people and misconstruing statements. Responding to things where you think you can get in a low-energy snide remark.
>kill yourself.
Thanks for proving my point. I'm such a superior human, I will advise you something nicer: Learn more about how things work, and stop trying to argue when you don't understand anything empirically, you're just a bleeding heart. You aren't even helping your own cause.
>>74249755
^ look up. I (You)'d you. My mistake.
>>74249959
I understand that manipulating innate materials and creating toxins is unhealthy and that killing yourself is not, just as I know poisoning your well is a dumb idea.
Respond to that.
>>74247361
Except for when it forces all the arabs and africans to move out due to inhospitable temperatures... It's a threat to European and European-descended nation's little saftey they have left
>>74242338
It just snowed in the middle of fucking May here where I live. What is this warming and how can I get some?
>>74250513
we went from snow to sunshine within the space of a week at the end of April
>>74242338
Oh no! The climate is changing, whatever will we do? I know, let's cut off all industry and energy production surely that'll stop by it. After all, everyone knows humans caused the ice age. Everyone knows humans are the only reason anything bad or different ever happens, it couldn't possibly be anything else.
>>74247361
>A 1-3 degree increase in average global temperature is no threat to humans or most other species on earth
Where did you get your biology degree m8
Is there still no mathematical model which uses the theory of global warming to predict the average global temperature?
Global alarmists BTFO
>>74243053
alright you cracked it
let's just stop buying everything
we'll revert back to the hunter gatherer era and buy everything from carts in the market after sunday prayers
wow... really makes you think...
>>74251120
>>74242532
>taxes and 'buying green' won't help
That's right, and that's why w-
>so Global Warming doesn't exist
...whuh?
>>74242338
Racists don't like facts. They stick to denial.
>>74248418
better go start saving the bee's then anon
>>74251273
Racist is a code word for denial.
>>74242338
>oh god 300 years
>that surely must be significant on a geologic scale
>it's not like we're still in an ice age or anything
>>74243442
>>166 years to rise 1 degree
>Wow...
I hope this is sincere, because otherwise you are a retard.
>It's a good goys argument that dumping thousands of gigantons of toxic shit into the atmosphere and oceans for centuries has no effect on the climate episode
I've seen this one before lads
>>74251359
Racist means believing one race is superior to others.
Don't you fit that definition perfectly, racist?
>>74251219
Not an argument
>>74251558
Pathetic bait
No leftie calls them self leftist with a trip. Try being more subtle next time.
>>74251651
Is calling people what they are a bait?
>>74243442
What is the average between -50 and 50? 0
What is the average between -149 and 151? 1.
A 'rise' is not a rise in every temperature ever. No one would be able to notice that. It's the rise in the average, which means colder colds and hotter hots, but the hots are a little hotter. Why? Because energy is spiking the weather patterns. Energy from the sun, trapped here by greenhouse gasses.
Global Warming is the wrong term, scientists are fucking stupid at naming things (European Extremely Large Telescope for instance.) The better name would be Global Overcharging, because that gets to the root of the problem, how do we get this energy (via heat) out of our open system? Clean up the gases? Siphon the energy into new power? That's the goal, finding ways to physically change that.
>but then we'll go too far
So we figure out a balance from there when we get to that.
>>74251072
Any species that specialized was not long for the world anyway.
>>74244468
No you stupid bitch.
We need that as plants need CO2.
The problem is huehues clear-cutting forests.
>>74247039
>What are Nuclear Moderators?
>>74245520
> releasing CO2
That's the key numb nuts, the CO2 has always existed and it's being put back into the air, causing a short warming spell. It will eventually settle back down and the cycle will start over again, see the graph.
>>74242338
>2 posts by OP
Fuck off.
>>74249484
you do realize abbos drink gas and weed killer and yet they still keep surviving
>>74242338
how about the time period before 1850?
>tfw they don't know what The Little Ice Age was.
>>74242338
if a godtard accepts global warming, they effectively debunk their own superstition worship because only their "God" can change the Earth "He" made in "six days"
>>74243053
Everyone and thats the problem
China needs to use a cleaner method of burning coal
>>74245520
Climate change is actually happening because of the SUN.
SUN is the only thing which gives massive amounts of energy for earth.
Currently SUN activity is declining, therefore released energy is much lower as a consequence earth is going to cool badly.
Proof: >>74244538
This graph pretty much matches suns' activity.
>>74242338
>muhh china
>muhh corporations
>muhh jews
https://youtu.be/dIvLEwGS-70?t=10m51s
>Greenpeace Co-Founder: It's a natural process, we're just recovering from an ice age.
global warming shills on suicide watch
/thread
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P7KkJJU.jpg "large[1].jpg")
>>74242338
2015-2016 is fucking brutal.
>>74255083
Solar cycle is 11 years dumb fuck.
