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Why don't you believe in God, /pol/?
No reason to.
God told me not to.
I asked God once to help me win the powerball and I didn't checkmate atheist
I have better things to worry about
Because I'm not bluepilled
Because I'm not a child or a Mudslime.
Absence of evidence.
>>74206926
A loving God wouldn't allow someone like me to exist.
Not in your God.
>>74206926
I do.
He made us in his image...meaning we are all god.
The collective is god.
We are the orchestra with no conductor.
>>74206926
Same reason I don't believe in Santa Claus.
I'm not a retard, a kid, a muslim, or all of the above.
>>74206926
Even if it exists staying all day in church saying how good god is won't change shit in the world
The humans needs to understand no justice and freedom if you just waiting for a epiphany to happen
I don't have a problem with people believing and I really hate those Fedora communist Reddit tier atheists
Because Yog-Sothoth offered a better deal.
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>>74207161
>>74206926
Would a god worthy of worship allow all this shit?
>>74207325
This. This this this this THIS THIS THIS.
>>74207404
>>74207404
Rip me out a page. I just took a massive shit and am out of TP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE&sns=em
>>74206926
I believe in a god, just not an interventionist god.
>>74207404
And the lesser key of Solomon and grimorium verum are evidence of demons.
No. Not really.
>>74206926
It's hard for me to believe in God. It just doesn't make sense to me. I know you have to have "faith" but still, it just doesn't make any sense.
>>74206926
Goal of the New World Order...to replace religion with materialism and science.
>>74206926
Niggers exist.
I believe in the God-Emperor. Anything else is heresy.
>>74208348
same
>>74206926
I wish i could, it would make the pain go away, but I know too much alreasy. The tyranny of knowledge.
>>74207325
this right hurr
>>74206926
There is no god untill you are helpless cuck.
>>74208348
>the primordial reason for everything that ever came into existence "doesn't make sense"
>>74206926
>a hand, clouds and photoshop light effects proof god exists
Seems legit
If God's eternal existence is so empty that he spends it lurking over a universe of his own creation and finding displeasure with countless things therein, then I see no reason why I shouldn't have the pessimistic attitude giving way to nihilism that I already had in the first place.
>>74206926
Because believing in magic is for children, old women and retards.
>>74208826
>this thing makes sense because i says it really loudly and a lot
>>74208444
nice trips
>believing in kikes fairy tales fabricated to get money from you while exploiting your fear of death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
>>74206926
Modernity. If there are any gods, they don't deserve worship, regardless of whether they exist or not.
>>74207481
>>74207524
>>74208271
>hundreds of cultures based around it..
>hundreds of people who experienced its creation..
>and hundreds of people from every timeline in the earth's history committed to the faith are wrong..
>because I say so
>>74208967
I don't even know how that is supposed to refute anything I said. went right past my argument and didn't even tackle it.
>>74208864
Sort of this, I believe in a God or creator but sometimes I think why the duck is he doing this? Just watching our shot species when he could be doing better things and creating a life so much better. Just seems fucking stupid.
>atheist thread
>90% eurocucks who gave up on God/Christianity and are now up to their eyeballs in raping mudslimes
>>74209250
>>74208864
Because there is no point in creating a species if you are just going to hold their hand the entire time through their development.
>>74209339
Christians love refugees/immigrants. Churches are always talking about how we need to help refugees and all of that.
>>74209419
So what is the point?
>>74207421
Yes. He promised us free will.
>>74209539
To create something that has the ability to become as powerful as God himself.
>>74207088
wow
>>74206926
Why should I? Got anything besides a caveman's fairy tale to offer me as proof? Probably not...
>>74206926
I do OP, and I am 28, married and I shave regularly unlike all these neckbeards
>>74209419
He could be creating empires or producing the most advanced species possible. What is the point of putting people here to live in these conditions and then die so he can give them eternal judgement based on a moment of sin, which even then is defined differently by how many religions exist today.
I like to believe but I do doubt. At the least I find myself believing God created us and this place and then that's it. He doesn't interfere with life. If he did I feel like he would help protect those who have no choice against evil such as children.
>hold our hand
I'm not saying hold or hand but what I think is maybe give some actual guidance, not some 1000 religions screaming about demons, burning in hell, rapture, you're wrong or you're right, etc.
>>74209781
>as powerful as God himself
So we will be able to build galaxies, create whole new planets and start life on them? Sounds like Mormonism almost.
>>74209793
The Bible has never been wrong. There was a time where science was wrong about many things, the Bible had it right. We did not. Pretty smart cavemen.
>>74209796
I shave and go to church sometimes with my grand parents. Not sure exactly what I believe in stone.
>>74209909
He is talking about people who enter the Kingdom of God. The whole reason Lucifer rebelled is because he didn't want to serve us.
>>74209781
We already have.
:^)
>>74209157
Still a superstitious primitive, huh anon.
>>74209781
God doesn't want that. Did you miss the Tower of Babel story?
>>74209246
>the preposition that some god caused everything makes sense because I believe in the preposition that some god caused everything
Great argument. Very logic. Much irrefuteable.
>>74210073
Kek is literally so omnipotent that he can both exist and not exist simultaneously.
Can your deity do the same?
>>74209910
There's almost nothing in the Bible that is either right or makes any sense. You sound like some Southern scrub to me.
>>74210011
Strengthen your faith in God and don't let yourself be put off by the media. Connect all the dots of today's degeneracy to a lack of faith and you'll see things differently
>>74206926
I just don't, I never have. I genuinely thought everyone was pretending like we all did for Santa and the Easter Bunny until I was like 13.
I don't particularly care. I'm a good (enough) person, if there is a God and he sends me to hell then he's a nigger. If there is any deity, it would be really fucking neat if the Egyptians were right and I'm greeted by Lord Kek after death.
>>74209569
>In exchange for a crap life on a crap planet full of crap people
What a fucking shit bargain. Someone arrest that deity!
>>74206926
I wagered everything on it.
-t. pascal
>>74208642
This
What does God have to offer a kissless virgin who can't see the point in religion?
>>74210298
>muh life is shit
aw so sad
>>74210272
2spooky4me
Do atheists become degenerates because they are atheists, or do degenerates become atheists because they are degenerates?
One of these has to account for why I'm an atheist but I'm not a degenerate.
>>74210012
Why rebel though? If he hadn't rebelled then what would be the opposing force or evil? If God can see everything why would he create an unnecessary plan for a moment in time which he knew would lead to a shattering conflict that would split half of his puerile or subjects?
>>74210416
The whole fucking planet is shit. Where the fuck you been?
Talking snake,Zombie,invisible sky wizard.
>>74210298
It gets better.
If you act now you'll get to spend an eternity with the worst of them.
>>74210080
Denial at its finest.
>>74210110
Having freedom is not the same as having power.
>>74210298
Grow up, baby.
>>74208348
Everything and everyone are one, it's all from the same source. Mathematically it's the Golden Ratio.
>>74210353
Eternal life if you live by putting others ahead of yourself
>>74210439
Ask any SJW, commie, cultural marxist, feminist, BLM activist, Antifa or femen member if they are Christian.
Guess what they'll reply
>>74206926
He never answered. If I ever had the slightest evidence of the existence of a God, I'd be eternally devoted, but unfortunately we're all alone.
>>74210642
The correlation is apparent enough.
You're just not establishing the causal relationship.
>>74210640
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2862243/Is-space-time-shaped-like-SPIRAL-Universe-golden-ratio-keeps-order-researchers-claim.html
God is an excuse to justify one's existence in the absence of proper scientific knowledge.
I do believe in ALLAH. Don't you? Isn't ALLAH the greatest?
Or do you mean the other one?
>>74210673
If there was the slightest bit of evidence there would be no need for faith.
>>74210673
Why would God reveal himself to everyone as proof? Then we'd all 100% believe and life would be pointless. God has put us here and given us free will so that we can choose to be good or evil and determine where we go. That's the meaning of life
>>74210642
>BLM activist
Most blacks are Christian, and it hasn't ever stopped them from pursuing their own interests.
>>74209157
>Argumentum ad populum
>>74207221
>M&B Viking Conquest
There it is...fags wont get much loot though.
>>74210803
r/atheism is thattaway
>>74206926
He's giving me the cold shoulder.
>>74210803
Then justify your existence with proper scientific knowledge.
Go ahead. Tell me what happened before the Big Bang.
>>74210871
Then why did he reveal himself to a primitive tribe in the Middle East?
>>74210871
>>74210860
I really don't understand how this circular logic makes sense in anyone's mind.
>>74211012
Why does people use this as a critique against atheism? I'm not even atheist but science doesn't claim to know what happened before the Big Bang. What is wrong with that? Is not knowing something so uncomfortable to religious people?
>>74211012
Time was created after the big bang. There is no before.
Can God become a Super Saiyan?
>>74210722
The old hiding behind 'causal relationship' and 'correlation does not equal causation' meme. Great for refuting uncomfortable truths.
>>74210899 Most blacks but not most BLM activists.
>>74206926
>believe
i believe in nothing
>>74211038
>taking the Bible 100% literally
This might be the only thing le edgy atheists and the Westboro Baptist Church have in common
>>74210803
Atheism is a lazy excuse to justify one's blindness
>>74210954
Speak to him and see if he answers. Ask him if he can create a stone so heavy that even he cannot lift it.
Also ask him why does he allow "evil" to exist.
>>74211208
better, it was created WITH the big bang
>>74209157
>hundreds of different religions
>but mine is right
>because I say so
>>74211038
Because otherwise there would be no foundation of his existence to build upon.
Many years after he expects us to believe in him, that faith in god is inseparable, even by the sands of time.
>>74211038
he reveal himself back then, he reveal himself now
>>74211211
Have you watched dragon ball? Of course it can!
Religion is for third worlders and niggers
>>74206926
But I do
Too bad nu/pol/ is filled with newfags, redditors especially from r/4chan and r/atheism and shills
>>74211136
So according to you God should just show himself and say Hi just to placate edgy fedorafags like you?
>>74211038
le 'chosen people'. Some one had to write down all that and receive Jesus eventually.
>>74211320
>third worlders and niggers are going to be saved and not him
cucked
I do. Mainly because the notion that everything was created out of nothing, at pure random, is utterly unthinkable.
That being said I do not think too much about it, I go to church a few times a month and pray sometimes.
God is out there watching, outside of eye shot, waiting for (you)
>>74211248
People are responsible for 'evil'.
Take some personal responsibility instead of expecting God to run everyone's life.
It's free will man.
>>74211012
I have no idea. The same way ancient greeks didnt knew how to build a jet engine or our position in the milky way.
Oh, I know it! Before the Big Bang there was the almighty space jew. Yeah, it must be it.
>>74211218
>basic scientific principles are memes
What else could we have expected from a christfag.
>>74211234
You might want to let your fellow Christian know that the Israelites were just a metaphor>>74211282
>>74211287
wat
>>74210803
Science says nothing of religion. Science seeks to understand natural phenomenon. Belief, spirituality is outside the realm of science. Science does not say anything about the absence of God.
The connection between science and irreligion is because science teaches one to doubt where as religion teaches one to believe. This is where the two are in conflict. One who doubts will find it very difficult to believe in dogma.
>>74211397
Then who the fuck created god?
>>74211393
>Argentina
Proving my point exactly. Maybe if you lived in an actual developed country you could enjoy your current life instead of praying for an afterlife you'll never see
What if God just has an extremely high power level and when he powers up he just becomes everything
>>74211248
>Speak to him and see if he answers.
herr derr I don't believe in God because he won't answer my instagram post
>Ask him if he can create a stone so heavy that even he cannot lift it.
herr derr hey God answer my philosophy question that I found on some website
>Also ask him why does he allow "evil" to exist.
God gave use free will to choose.
>>74211465
i tried to make sense with your sentence, God always show himself, that's why you cant stop him, he always will be around us
>>74206926
I bet people that don't believe in God also watch porn, pirate their OS and software music and so on, insult everyone everyday and occasionally break the commandments.
>>74210913
>>74211280
The bible is a secondary source. If you were around during that time to experience the primary source, there is no doubt you would have a different opinion.
>>74211536
>current life of usa or europe
no thanks, my life is pretty good, also going to be saved, win win
>>74211136
It is FAITH primarily. God won't slip up and leave a damn handprint some where to fulfil that logic bit.
God is above man's perception of logic
>>74209910
How do you account for celestial bodies that are over 6-12k light years away from us?
>>74210596
Nothing to deny -- there is nothing. Give me one iota of proof anon just one. Surely you have some proof, else your beliefs hod no more water than Scientology or Zoroastrianism.
Oh wait, there is no proof, you just have to belieeeeve, man. Fucking people.
>>74211341
I'm pretty sure the entire world would be placated if any God actually revealed Himself.
>but you need le faith
Could apply to any sort of belief, blind faith is not exclusive to a Christian God, blind faith is a requirement for any religion.
>>74211612
>God always show himself
Where?
>>74211415
>god knows everything
>god gave us free will
>god allows evil to exist
>god is infinitely good
>>74211218
>Great for refuting uncomfortable truths.
>refuting
I acknowledged the correlation already though.
Thing is, you are using this correlation in an attempt to make an argument for why I should believe in deities, and if I fall outside of the correlation then I need you to make a formal argument instead of hiding behind vague implications in an attempt to coerce me to take deities seriously because muh feels.
Unless you're admitting that you are a benevolent liar and all you are trying to get me to do is become just like you.
>>74211527
How about this one. I never saw religious fags discussing this.
>>74211635
What does this prove? Do you even know what argumentum ad populum means?
I don't care if every single person on Earth was religious. It is not enough to prove that a God exists.
>>74211397
>That being said I do not think too much about it
We can tell
>>74211527
who cares? Not like you atheists have answers for what created the universe.
>>74211527
I firmly believe god is no mere creature or sky daddy.
He is the past
The present
And the future
He dwells in the realm beyond the physical one, therefore his physical form and how it came to be is perhaps too complicated for us to understand.
Nor do we need to! Just do the best you can in this lifetime and all will be made clear in due time, god bless.
>>74211669
God curses mankind with reason and only freeing yourself from it can save you.
>>74211778
to people, that's why there's always someone talking about him
that's why you don't see anyone preaching other old god
>>74210860
Completely wrong. You can have proof that something exists, yet have faith in it. Typical Bible pounder's 'argument' -- no better than muzzies.
>>74210234
There are many things. Coming from someone who hasn't even read the Bible I'm not surprised you are unaware.
>>74206926
No proof he exists. The same reason I don't believe in unicorns
>>74211816
It was the spaghetti monster who lives near Ceres, praise be.
These cucks worship the wrong god.
If there was a righteous god Germany would have triumphed over international Jewry; there is no justice in this world. The truth doesn't matter, the only truth that matters is truth that is agreed upon by the victors.
I believe there has to be some greater being that created this world. The fact that our vast universe was created from nothingness and the many patterns in nature are proof to that imo.
However, I am unsure that it is a God exactly. We could just be an extremely complex program created by an extremely advanced society that makes ours look like we're basically nothing. If there is a God, I doubt it's a Christian, Jewish, Islamic, etc. God. Religion the way we know it now has been corrupted by governments for thousands of years to fit an agenda that controls the population. Religion was most likely the reason we advanced from cavemen to the Roman Empire, but extremist versions that breed hatred lead to the collapse of civilizations.
Religion itself is fine and probably should be followed by a majority of the population, but rises in extremist religions cause downfalls. An all powerful God would not allow its followers to go down these paths of extreme hatred, atleast from my perspective.
Of course, I'm probably just a faggot overthinking the questions of the universe.
>>74211542
>free will
Free will cannot exist if there is an omnipotent creator.
>>74211622
Everybody pirates software. Why wouldn't you?
>>74211393
Enjoy eternity with a pack of niggers then, anon. Have fun!
>>74210298
People don't need to be that way. Neither does the world. Quit blaming God for your short comings, blame Satan.
>>74206926
i wish i could but i can't see any proof of God so it makes it difficult without feeling like religion is talking to nothing.
>>74211945
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read.
If God showed up right now, there would be no need for faith anymore.
>>74211927
>that's why you don't see anyone preaching other old god
I'm not even sure which god you're referring to, but that is clearly not true.
>>74210470
I answered that question in that post. He didn't want to serve us.
>>74211823
>It is not enough to prove that a God exists.
Then what is?
We already have:
- The Bible (An experience shared by others)
- Human faith
- The existence of the universe
What else do you need? Try not to contradict anything I have said when you come up with your answer.
>>74212068
>Everybody pirates software. Why wouldn't you?
Not a Christian, because it's a sin to steal.
>>74211542
>herr derr, I believe in God cuz mommy told me to.
>>74211812
>>74211465
I'm not on a fucking missionary here. I just made the pretty obvious observation that modern day degenerates are overwhelmingly atheist. Your whole correlation shite is just a blatant denial, it's fucking obvious when things are related.
Example
During the summer ice cream sales rise.
>HURR DURR CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION
>>74212031
the bible says things are going to be worst by the day, that only we can stay strong in Christ
do you think the end of the world is going to be pretty?
>>74212069
thanks bro, i bet i will
>>74210470
Also, God doesn't make slaves. All of the Angels had free will just as we do, they exercised it, they will be punished for it.
The difference is there is no chance for redemption for them, but there is a chance for us.
>>74211892
The universe was created by the big bang. this is the current prevailing theory that is supported by scientific facts. If you have a radio and try to detect cosmic background radiation.
Now whether or not the Big Bang actually happened we will never know with 100%. If you knew anything about scientific philosophy, you'd understand science is pinned on doubt. But after enough evidence, the theory is held to be generally true - though not absolutely true.
We don't know what happened before the big bang and it is very possible that time was invented along with the big bang.
>>74212068
>Free will cannot exist if there is an omnipotent creator.
Why not. We're like his antfarm. He's watching us build and destroy, etc.
There is literally no reason to unless its a family tradition and my folks don't believe in god either.
>>74212111
So what, that would ruin everything? Once you saw God you wouldn't believe in him any more? Fuckwit.
>>74212131
By that ""logic"", every God people believe in would exist.
>>74212131
Occam's razor says hi.
>>74210673
You being alive is proof for a God that created everything.
>>74212183
>atheists become degenerates because they are atheists
or
>degenerates become atheists because they are degenerates
>>74211987
Read the Bible, it's shit.
>>74212031
Jews are God's chosen people. :)
>>74212039
You are a Faggot.
It's just simple Good and Evil
>>74206926
Because he hasn't struck down the sanctimonious Retardicans who constantly take his name in vain.
>>74212212
>God doesn't make slaves
>it just prefers to torture anything that doesn't obey for eternity
TOP KEK
>>74212335
>Implying they are mutually exclusive
>>74212183
Christian values such as altruism, monogamy, etc are always important because they make it easier for a community to live peaceful in their society, but that doesnt mean some deity wrote them. They were wrote by the hand of men.
>>74212352
canada you libertarian faggot i hope you dont get aids
>>74212329
Me being alive proves God exists.
God existing proves the almighty spaghetti monster exists.
Spaghetti monster existing proves this argument makes no sense.
Occam's Razor
Why rationalize a murderous mad god being good and loving when he doesn't need to exist?
Atheism is a pitiful mindset.
>Actively choose to be an evolved, talking ape (i.e. nigger) who exists to do nothing more than hunt-gather in modern society, rather than ascend to a belief in a higher purpose and God
Also, with all the white cuckery going on due to the growing ego of black males actively asserting their dominance, it's ironic to see white men reject a being classically portrayed as white with blonde/white hair, literally called Alpha, who is above all things.
Boy, white men are literally digging their own graves.
A book says
Because of all the evil shit in the world, good people dying of cancer and other horrible shit, Because evil still somehow exists. If god was real then how come it simply doesnt fix all this shit? If god is so fucking almighty and wise then why doesn't it just exterminate satan and all the evil in the world and start over? After reading the bible I still dont see a good reason why he hasn't done any of the above listed issues.
>>74209157
Not saying I don't believe in anything but at one point we thought the sun was god. And then Zeus. Also egyptians worshipped cats no? A flaming bush telling someone to carve rocks then a guy writing a book on it is no different man.
if I saw proof of God then by all means I'd become religious, but the whole thing without is just based on trust that goes so far back that it can't really be proved. I mean God couldn't come to every single person and give them a reason to believe, that would take forever. I really do wish I could believe, but I'm not seeing it. I like the commandments, the whole "treat others how you want to be treated" and everything that says don't be a huge dick, which is probably the best thing about a lot of organized religions.
>>74212487
Alright then, so it's possible to be an atheist but not a degenerate.
>>74209157
By that logic microorganisms don't exist, semen is all that matters in conception, the stars are not the same thing as the sun, the moon is flat, your mom is a whore.
How could all those people for all them milenia be wrong? because I say so? nope only the unwashed ancient plebs of the past hold the keys to wisdom.
>>74212566
it's a fucking test to see if you are strong enough to beat the world like Jesus did, man this fucking people
>>74212176
>herr derr I don't believe in God because he didn't answer my prayer when I was 10
>herr derr I don't believe in God because I want to appear smarter than everyone else.
>>74212538
>Fiji
neat.
>>74212131
Mathematical proof (deduction)
If a mathematical proof is not available, a scientific proof (empirical evidence) is necessary.
These are the only two types of proofs that are acceptable.
-The bible (An experience shared by others).
Okay. Experiences are not evidence. If you touch metal left outside, you might feel that the metal is colder than a piece of wood. The fact is that both the metal and wood are at the same temperature.
Experience is not a suitable form of evidence because it is anecdotal. It is not reproducible and nor is it falsifiable.
-Human faith
Explain lack of faith in some humans then. Lack of God? But you just claimed God exists. An illusion by God? Prove it. Similarly, it is not falsifiable so it is not acceptable.
- The existence of the universe.
There are no axioms that say that the existence of the universe implies the existence of a god.
>>74211257
If there was no time before the big bang how did the big bang happen if there is no time for something to happen?
Come again.
>>74206926
It is the wish thinking of someone who wants to be a slave without evidence
>>74212538
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>>74212512
>when one doesn't need to exist
[citation needed]
Not a Jew.
>>74212566
You're stupid you make me wish I was never born.
>>74212603
>I mean God couldn't come to every single person and give them a reason to believe, that would take forever.
God, who is all powerful and lives outside of time, does not have enough time?
>>74212508
Do you get meatballs if you behave good before dying?
>>74207244
This.
Every religion should strive for this line of thought
I dont think god is something I ever would have ever considered or inuited if I didn't grow up in the specific culture that i did. Like if i was just an undomesticated man living in nature it would be a unthinkable concept. Which to me indicates that god is a product of culture, and not vice versa. Does that make sense? I see it as a willful delusion, maybe a useful lie at best.
>>74212704
To add, anything that is not a mathematical proof or a scientific proof is not an acceptable proof.
>>74212566
>not realizing satans the god of the physical realm
corinthians 4:4
"the god of this world, satan"
gotta ascend this earthly plane yo
>>74211892
What created the big bang? Come again.
>>74212706
The concept of "happening" does not make sense without time.
>>74212308
Dang you're a moron.
Why would I need to have FAITH in something that I KNOW EXISTS.
>>74206926
there is no way a benevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient being would look at this planet and not be compelled to act
>>74212801
You too, maplenigger. Maybe you should pray I get struck by lightening?
>>74212832
>a product of culture
>a bunch of jews doing jack shit in the desert
Christianity was made by Jews to control the white man.
Lord Kek is the one true God.
>>74212111
Whyis faith so important?
>>74212166
Yeah, stealing is bad. But "software piracy" isn't stealing? Who am I stealing from when I download a load of X-Men books? Who is losing something?
>>74212244
>why not?
Because if he created everything and knows everything how can you meaningfully say you makr any choices?
> We're like his antfarm
Except a kid with an antfarm didn't create the universe and doesn't know everything that will ever happen.
>>74212314
There's 1 God.
God is probably laughing at all of over interpretations/beliefs.
>>74212538
>higher purpose
>worship an absent ruler under threat of torture understanding that life is nothing but a chance to get trolled by Satan
Yeah, working to make the world better and colonize space is such an empty existence.
It's not like you use religious beliefs to assuage your sense of racial and sexual insecurity.
oh wait.
>>74212817
Yes, and you can pick your desert! He's (of course he's a he, what are you? a fag?) truly holy.
>>74212951
lol this board alone would be a sin.
>>74212790
We have plenty of theories that give reasonable origins to everything, thus one doesn't need to exist.
That's not proof in and of itself of course, you can have multiple possibilities for one event, but the presence of them allows the existence of god to be questioned.
>>74212463
By obeying you are still using your free will. God doesn't ask much of us. He asks very little actually.
>>74213059
Praise be!
>>74213003
>Whyis faith so important?
faith is some kind of currency, Jesus said all things are possible to him who believes
here people say all things are possible if you have money
>>74212495
>>74212538
>I identify as an ascended being, my preffered pronouns are...
Beyond sad, its not what you want to be, its what you are and what you can be. Religious people are the other side of the same coin SJWs are.
>>74213003
You're like talking to a moron. Just because God KNOWS what we're going to do doesn't mean he isn't giving us free will to do it.
>>74213063
This.
>>74213053
>>worship an absent ruler
>he doesnt know God is everywhere
why the fuck do you want to colonize the space?
test
>>74212538
t. caveman
OP is a fag and he trolled us all with the oldest trick in the book.
>>74212986
>not worshipping Sobek.
lmao fucking frogfuckers.
>>74212603
You sure to spend a lot of time thinking about God don't you? If you are so convinced He is not real, why do you spend so much time thinking about Him? That's Him telling you that He is real.
>>74206926
the general absurdity of it all
>>74212625
Not remotely close to what I said, but yes it is. Now before you stick anymore bananas up your ass TJ, I'll make a prediction that you'll be a degenerate before long, perhaps right now
>>74209250
ever played sim city? its kind of like that
>>74209569
>cancer, stillbirths, malaria, hurricanes, earthquakes, and prion diseases are all because of free will
>>74213135
It's easy to ask little when you have a gun to your victims head.
>>74213414
Why don't you just admit that you are a benevolent liar?
>>74213236
>Just because God KNOWS what we're going to do doesn't mean he isn't giving us free will to do it.
It's not just the knowing, it's the knowing and creating. If it was one or the other you might be right. But he created everything knowing what would happen. You're the moron here.
>>74212905
Which means the big bang couldn't have happened by what you just said.
No time=no possibility of something happening
Big bang and time came into being simultaneously=yet there was no time for something to happen.
You just defeated yourself.
>>74213495
Like a sparrow in its flitting, like a swallow in its flying, So a curse without cause does not alight.
>>74210673
you idiot, the mathematical chance of you just existing should prove there is a God
>>74213558
you are the moron for not believing in God stupid,
repent and be saved!
>>74212951
Wrong. He acts through people. This thread is proof. There are several people acting right now trying to turn you towards His light.
You forget that this place is ruled by Satan. This is confirmed by the fact that the world is, indeed, filled with evil.
>>74213558
> But he created everything knowing what would happen.
And? It doesn't contradict free will. Moron.
>>74206926
I believe and because of my faith i am able to see true beauty of the world and i am not scared about things i cannot control. Faith gives me hope.
>>74213541
How have I lied? Give example or GTFO.
Why don't you admit that 'correlation does not equal causation' is a reddit tier meme?
>>74213465
No, it isn't. Sim City has events unanticipated by the player.
>>74212314
Maybe they do, in a different form of beliefs that isn't observed through normal means.
>>74212326
So what's the simplest explanation in this scenario? That the universe was created and nothing else?
>>74212508
Strawmanners are the worst
>>74212566
Let's say I am a teacher.
If I give you homework, I expect you to do it on your own.
You have trouble with the homework, and want me to "help" you with it.
By doing so, you have gained no experience nor have you learned anything, because I did the homework for you.
That is why god does not fix all of the problems in the world for us.
>>74212704
>because it is anecdotal. It is not reproducible and nor is it falsifiable
And that is the idea, again, behind faith.
How do you know hypnagogia exists? Because you experience it. There is no proof that it happens.
>Explain lack of faith in some humans then
The belief in God is support enough that he exists. If you did not have the ambitions to believe that he existed, he would not exist.
>There are no axioms that say that the existence of the universe implies the existence of a god.
Then what does it imply? There is nothing that contradicts the claims, only supports.
>>74213695
you just described earth
>>74206926
If there is a God, then why black people?
>>74213053
>>74213216
I'm irreligious, though. I think religion is cancer. I believe in God because the other options are equally absurd/retarded and atheistic responses to the argument from contingency are terrible.
>>74213560
Don't worry, Jeebus will fill all the empty holes!
Now apply your reasoning to Jeebus.
>>74213502
Actually He has Heaven held to our head. His standard which is ultimately good, held to our head.
Literally boils down to, believe in me for I have created you, and don't be a cunt.
That's all.
>>74213065
Questioned but not dismissed. What are the implications if one has to exist?
>>74213591
Calvinism is for the morally retarded.
>>74213775
You're a confused teenager, lurking /pol/ will make you even more awkard and out of place.
>>74213789
Right, unless you're a fag, or a Jew. Then you're fucked, eternal torture. You can hold a gun to someone's head and offer a spa treatment of they agree. Even if you give them the spa, you're still a thug.
>>74213782
Jesus was a real person, do you mean God?
Simply, God is not bound to any laws, he created those laws. They are bound to Him, not the other way around.
God is what made the Universe. Based on your logic which I just defeated thoroughly, nothing could exist.
But guess what? Things do exist.
>>74213747
No, I didn't. In your comparison to Sim City the player is God. But since God KNOWS EVERYTHING the comparison doesn't work. Fucking hell, why are these threads always full of such retards.
>>74213887
that is written in Proverbs 26:2
>>74213948
Nope. If you believe in Him and abide by His will the best you can, you will do okay.
Aside from God being infinitely just, He is also infinitely merciful.
Only one sin cannot be forgiven, that is a life time of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
>>74213674
He's REAL! I am not ashamed!
>>74207244
The white race is god. The muds are our misfortune and the jews are the devil.
>>74213686
>How have I lied? Give example or GTFO.
You made the implication that degeneracy and atheism have a causal relationship, without specifying which direction it's in, in an attempt to coerce me to pretend to believe in deities through the peer pressure of guilt trips, with full awareness that there are either false Christians or degenerate Christians and intentionally failing to acknowledge it because it would render your piss poor attempt at a "point" completely meaningless. That's on the same level as implying that child molesting priests are a good reason to steer clear of the church, in any formal sense. It's not a meme, it's a foundational logical principle that you're attempting to shoo away from highlighting the weakness of your argument.
>>74206926
what don't you believe in Alah anon?
