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You have 20 seconds to say why a Monarchy isn't the most efficient system.
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>>74184158
corruption
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But it is.
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>>74184158
Major problem is the ability to groom an heir. Sometimes monarchs fail to do this properly and fuck it up. For example Alexander III did not teach Nicholas II how to rule.
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>>74184331
Oh, I'm sure democracy is so much less corrupt than Monarchy. Yes..of course.

>>74184336
It's not like the average politician is any more groomed.
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Consent of the governed, will of the people, Liberty, so on, so forth. Don't sit there trying to tell me and monarchistic society in history has ever been better than a democratic one.
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>>74184158

I can't. It's the best form of government, full stop.

>monarchy is never making a comeback
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>>74184463

>he thinks democracy = more liberty

I highly recommend this, there's free PDFs out there.

It's an easy read too.
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>>74184463
>Consent of the governed
>Will of the people
You mean like the refugee crisis?

>Liberty
You mean like the thing that never existed in any society?

>so on, so forth
Tell me more.

>Don't sit there trying to tell me and monarchistic society in history has ever been better than a democratic one.
Are you sure you don't want me to?
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>>74184158
You can't ensure the competence or benevolence of the monarch.

Also inbreeding which is why you go from great monarchs like Elizabeth Gloriana to loony birds like George III.
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That's some fine Yankbait, OP.
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>>74184158
But it is. It's one of the more final red pills, one that /pol/ refuses to swallow.
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>>74184336
>Major problem is the ability to groom an heir

yes but a King unlike any politician has an incentive to groom their Heir for kingship. The Kingdom's future is tied to his lineage. he can either have his legacy survive posthumously or be remembered as the king who ruined the country.
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>>74184960
Always pains me to see us as a Republic. It does not feel natural.
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>>74184946
>You can't ensure the competence or benevolence of the monarch.
You can - regicide. You know exactly who's responsible.

In democracies? Not so much.

As you can see - monarchy has only benefits. Even if the king fucks up, you can get him and dispose of him. But monarchy is also better in any other respect.

It is, quite frankly, the best, most natural, most friendly and free-est (because the king doesn't give a shit what you do generally) form of government.

That's also why there were world wars to end it.
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>>74184960
>Bruh

Ancient Greeks used the term Barbarian for everyone who was ruled by a king instead of being governed democratically.
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>>74185224
I thought barbarian just meant non-Greek. Since plenty of Greek city states had Kings.
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>>74184331
>Corruption
Your presidential campaigns are literally funded by private companies and you're talking about corruption...
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>>74184158
Monarchy is Fascism lite.
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>>74184946
>You can't ensure the competence

As the monarch's family has a lot to lose from an incompetent monarch, they're likely to solve the problem internally (by replacing the current king/queen with another, competent family member).

>or benevolence

As a monarchy is a private government it does not have the resources (taxation) to put down a popular uprising like a modern '''''''free'''''''''''' democracy. So it's in a monarch's best interests to stay on the good side of the people unless they want to be killed (along with their family). As I said before, the royal family would likely solve the problem internally before revolution broke out as they stand to lose everything.
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Your King marries a nigger and has black kids. Now your country is run by blacks for the rest of time.

Just one thing I don't like about monarchy.
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>>74184463
modern democracy really only started around the time of US independence and french revolution didnt it? Most of the industrial revolution was built on science and research under the guidance of monarchies. So was modern western music. As far as I can tell all democracy has given us is two world wars, shitty kike financial systems, and niggers.
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>>74185266
>Since plenty of Greek city states had Kings.

They considered the Macedonian kingdom both barbarians and greeks
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your national hero canadian Wayne Gretzky net worth $200 million. hip hop rapper american Eminem net worth $210 million
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>>74185266
You are correct
>>74185224
You are wrong
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>>74184422
>>74185290

You can work within a democratic system to remove those in power.

How do you propose changes in leadership in a monarchy besides a rebellion / civil war?

Do you really think if we had those in this day and age (in America), the revolting side would have any way to battle the establishment? RE: Control of water, energy, supplies, not even mentioning military superiority.
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Princess Diana. You might have royal blood but race mixing is still relevant.
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>>74185377

Fascism is as much a product of the enlightenment as communism of liberal dildocracy.

All are antitraditional although obviously I would prefer a form of 'libertarian fascism' to what we're stuck with today.

>>74185420
European royal families married members of other European families, hence Russia has had an ethnic German empress and so on.

There were no brown aristocratic families in Europe.
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>>74185538
Sparta had Kings, Corinth had a King.
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>>74185534
>>74185534
>modern democracy really only started around the time of US independence and french revolution didnt it?
The First French Republic lasted 7 years before we decided that it sucked and that an empire was better. Then we conquered Europe.
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>>74185189
Remember that time the Emperor decided that everyone had to pray like he did and accidentally Germany?
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>>74185571

>You can work within a democratic system to remove those in power.

Yet in the west we have a choice of

>the racial/ethnic/cultural suicide party
>the slow racial/ethnic/cultural suicide party

Dog bless democracy :DDD

I understand the theory, but the practice is somewhat different. IMO monarchy (private government) is the apex of the libertarian/ancap line of thought.
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>>74184158
>MUH GENETICS makes me fit to rule.
Pleb as fuck m8
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>>74184158
primogeniture
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>>74184158
bad thing about monarchy is that it will eventually be overthrown by jews
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>>74185706

Come back, Napoleon!
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>>74185179

It isn't natural.

You could do a lot worse that Putin though.
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North korea is practically a monarchy. Is that your ideal society op?
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>>74187011

>hurr durr the country is undemocratic
>therefore it's a monarchy

Just like the Third Reich, Soviet Union and post-1789 France you fucking leaf.

Canadians have far surpassed the Australians in shitposting ability.
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>>74184331
and democracy isn't? wew lad.
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>>74184946
>be america
>elect a retard to white house
Come on, honestly all systems suck
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>>74184158
the problem I see is that it's essentially a coin flip, around 50% chance that the next ruler will be good and 50% chance that they'll be bad
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>>74185571
the process takes to long and then another fucktard takes charge until the sheep elect another fucktard
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>>74184158
Inbreeding. Classical aristorcacy is better.
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>>74187724

Eh, that's mitigated by the royal family acting in it's own interests; if the current monarch is shitty, his family will more often than not remove him and replace him with another member of the family.

If they don't they stand to lose when the people revolt/back another family with claims to the throne.

It's almost like a corporation firing a bad CEO before they run the company into the ground and another company steps in to fill their niche in the market.
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Because individual liberty is more important than collective safety.
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>>74187971
>Inbreeding

Just make an iron rule that members of the royal family should marry members of other royal families.
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>>74188012
Such a beautiful family.
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>>74184158
Because the aristocracy stpped fulfilling its role as the military class.
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Greek Royal family
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this is a greek royal family thread now
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>>74189646
>>74188816

Are they as popular in Greece as ours are in the UK?
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Rate our king.
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>>74189901
>Are they as popular in Greece as ours are in the UK?

being a royalist in a socialist (aka low fat commie) country is a big no no
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>>74184158
The most powerful nation in the entire humankind's history is a Republic.
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>>74184158
Power comes to bad hands easily and is hard to remove.
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>>74190321

But if you champion stability, individual liberty and the continual refinement of your culture it's shit.
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>>74184960
Our fault sorry
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My political ideology is Gustavian, named after the King Gustav III of Sweden.

Absolute monarchy can easily work.
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>>74190321
And yet it has nothing to do with this country being a republic.
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>>74185636
Fascism is not a product of the statement that humans are good by nature, it is the polar opposite. Fascism is also not a new concept. Try Rome.
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>>74190483

>Being lectured on liberty by a resident of Airstrip One.

The U.K. is not a free society.
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>>74191994

>The U.K. is not a free society.

Thank's for pointing that out, I almost hadn't noticed my noguns or my replacement-level immigration.

My point was democracy =/= increased personal liberty; quite the opposite.
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>>74185624
That's why we killed her off.
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>>74184158
Shit monarch.
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>>74190073
Cool guy.
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Burden of proof falls on he who makes an accusation.

Ergo, you have no argument.

NOT.

AN.

ARGUMENT.
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>be not religious
>get killed/exiled

Pretty shit idea tbbh, smmh faam
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>>74189646

Nobody gives a shit Kuropushakis.
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It sucks if your monarch turns out to be a pussy, like >>74184336 stated in his example.
Poor, poor Nick.
>>74184333
But he ruined everything and it took thousands of years to un-fuck everything up in the 3rd ending, which is canonic according to memezaki.
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Why is Dutch royalty superior to the English royalty?
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>>74192782
>English royalty
Doesn't exist
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>>74192867
British then
That old Stinking hag that sits on your throne
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>>74184158

But it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMStUdokKY
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A wise monarch will value economic growth, so his son can inherit an improved country.
A democracy will always devolve into bread and circus, inflation, debt.

The christian monarchs of today all work for the Freemasons and the Rothschilds.
All proper christian bloodlines have been murdered, or exiled.
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>>74184158
Monarchy is retarded because of line of succession. I'd rather have a fascist leader that rose to power by btfoing everyone else than a pampered prince, at least the former is someone with actual skills, most fascist leaders are/were alpha and intelligent as fuck.
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>>74184331
... Which doesn't exist in democratic systems...
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>people complaining about line of succession
What about Roman style despotism where people would adopt wise guys to their familia and choose only worthy people to be their successors?
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