http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-break-global-temperature-records
>April 2016 was the hottest April on record globally – and the seventh month in a row to have broken global temperature records.
>The latest figures smashed the previous record for April by the largest margin ever recorded.
>It makes three months in a row that the monthly record has been broken by the largest margin ever, and seven months in a row that are at least 1C above the 1951-80 mean for that month. When the string of record-smashing months started in February, scientists began talking about a “climate emergency”.
>It all but assures that 2016 will be the hottest year on record, and probably by the largest margin ever.
>>74172559
Shaking my head, and idiots will still decline climate change
>>74172559
It's cold as shit here in Sweden though.
>>74172624
Nobody is denying climate change, we are denying the fact that we humans are the main cause of it.
Globalists are scrounging for more global laws and control until the weather starts to cool again
Why should I care if the sea level rises?
I live in the Cairngorms, flood water won't be reaching me any time soon. It just means the beach will be a little closer desu senpai.
All my food and drink is made locally so my community will manage just fine, not to mention there won't be any mass migration from flood hit areas to here, they'll all probably go to the center of England.
Feels good man.
southern california here. april was the coldest month i remember
>>74172624
I am still shaking my head, you faggots still trying push carbon taxing.
Die in a fire.
>>74172624
Me too. I'm just shaking my head of these goyim
>>74173287
Same here. I live in the middle of Sweden and we had it very cold the first four months of the year, like always.
This "research" was probably done in Africa but they called it 'globally' because.. reasons.
baka /pol/ still hasn't figured it out
humans ARE the cause of global warming. how can you can look at asia and not conclude that?
but that doesn't matter, look at it this way -- climate change is going to wipe out a huge chunk of the global population (and it won't be the whites)
>>74172624
The only way it will go back to what it was is when we get a fuck ton of volcanoes going off you faggot.
>>74173168
SCOTLAND REPRESENT <3
>>74172559
>Near freezing for a week in May
I wouldn't doubt it'll be one of the coldest Mays on record in Tennessee. April was pretty hot though, it's like they switched.
>>74173496
>Same here. I live in the middle of Sweden and we had it very cold the first four months of the year, like always.
read the graph. of course the difference between 13*C and 14*C isn't going to be noticeable to you. but if globally temperatures are rising 1 to 2 degrees across the board that's going to have colossal impacts on the ecosystem. changing any one variable feeding into the system has thousands of ripple effects that change everything else
I will remind them.
>>74173544
Carbon tax is designed to transfer wealth to the Jewish banksters, making them even more powerful and wealthy by taxing us to death, literally. Anybody who believes CO2 must be taxed and controlled is a total fucking moron. Don't be a moron, do some research and learn the truth. There are pollutants that should be controlled but CO2 isn't pollution, CO2 is necessary for life and levels 10X higher than today would be safe and beneficial for plants and crops that would grow faster and larger, producing more food and natural-renewable products for mankind.
Climate change refugees will dwarf the refugee crisis in 2015.
>>74172624
That's not what it means to deny it. We deny agw, the theory that postulates human emissions are responsible for it, with literally no valid models.
>>74173737
This doesn't really refute global warming, but it shows the disgusting publication bias that is present like an eternal cancer in the field of climate research. The field is worse than fucking psychology.
The JEW WORLD ORDER will be financed by CARBON TAXES from the JWO Fraudulent CO2 SCAM.
>>74173680
>>74173680
>temperature rises from 286K to 287K
>ripple effects
>world burns to a crisp
thanks obama
>>74174088
If your models are wrong, why should I trust your theory?
>>74172559
We've only been keeping records for like a century, which is like a nanosecond in terms of the planet/climate etc.
>>74172559
>city is right now 42°C with estimated rise up to 45°C
>mfw every summer max temp is like 37°C to 39°C
>mfw 250 ft deep borewell just died up, can't draw any water
>no guberment water supply in my area
>have to call a water trailer once every 3 to 5 days to get the 4k liter overhead water tanks refilled
Hot dang the end times are near
>>74174205
You should trust our models because they're hot.
>>74172559
>>The latest figures smashed the previous record for April by the largest margin ever recorded.
>Smashed
>Less than 1 degree centigrade difference
Bitch up here in Quebec, we get temperatures of minus 40 in winter, plus 40 in summer. Do you think I give a fuck about your one degree centigrade when we live through a variance of 80 on a year to year basis?
It's snowing here today. It's the coldest month of May I can remember.
Are Portuguese people really an African nation black as charcoal, or is it just a meme?
I bet the 20th century was really comfy
>>74174438
Whoops. Wrong thread. But enjoy the Kang's portrait.
>>74172559
>climate emergency
>temp is 0.4° higher than 30 years ago
emergawd we are all going to boil to death, if this continuous we are going to be like venus in the next 20k years!!!!
>>74173680
>changing any one variable feeding into the system has thousands of ripple effects that change everything else
..that feed back into themselves again and again and again and again
the climate is the most complex and unpredictable system we know of (besides the human brain), yet climate researchers think they can accurately model it with virtual systems that have a resolution of 100 MILE BOXES and consider LESS THAN THIRTY VARIABLES
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
>>74174088
>Anthropological Global Warming hypothesis uses refuted, known non predictive climate models to "prove" its hypothesis. The models all fail to predict, but you'd have to be a "denier" to question them for being wrong.
Holy shit this is the new scientology.
Liberals literally trying to pass laws because its hot outside.
Holy shit.
>step 1: manufacture global issue with global consequences
>step 2: turn issue into a position on government policy
>step 3: globally uniform enforcement
>step 4: global taxes re: the issue, global law enforcement re: the issue ... de facto global government
>step 5: start centralizing the rest of "our common challenges" under the young global government's aegis -- everything looks like a nail when all you've got is a hammer
>result: new tower of babel, achieved
it'll never work, though.
>>74173388
>>74173861
>Hur durr dur tha Jews did it
Not everything is the Jews you stupid little fuckhead, Jews not only own the banks but also much of the industries that would be negatively affected by policies tht aim to reduce greenhouse gases like the oil industry etc. Stop blaming the jews, they may responsible for alot of things, but a carbon tax isnt one of them. No one is going take you seriously if you blame every fukn thing on the Jews.
>>74172624
Climate change has been happening for millions of years.
You're a retard if you think we have any involvement in it.
>>74173737
We are not talking about climate models you fuckhead, this is recorded temperature around the world for April.
Global temperature record... Ever.. What about when most of the world was covered with fucking rainforests faggot
>>74172559
omg, a whole degree? I'd better get the hose out and douse the plants before they spontaneously combust
>>74173676
Same in Wisconsin. We've only had a couple days warm enough to go kayaking so far this year
>>74175919
fuck off jew, the secret is out
>>74174672
Think first, then speak.
>>74172559
Do you know the word indifference? Only poor countries suffer from this shit and they are already coming here en masse, so why would this change anything?
>>74172559
>the 1951-80
why use this value for the mean, and not the 20th century average? cherrypicking? how dishonest.
the media is so dishonest, rating below LAWYERS for honesty in polls
>>74172624
Unfortunately the underage children of /pol/ seem to think climate science is a "social issue".
As their daddy figure Trump would say: "sad"
>>74172559
So are you saying it's happening, or is it already too late?
April was cold as fuck here though
>>74174397
it would be a shame if Quebec and Canada came to have a climate more lenient to agriculture than everywhere else on the planet
a shame i tell you
>>74172559
Well it's been raining and snowing in Colorado, so I call bullshit.
I mean climate change aint anything new. The late Romans had a giant global cooling. And we were all fine.
"Any fucking day now."
- Thomas Malthus
>>74172559
Look at the graph. Temperature anomaly of roughly 0.8ºC since 1880.
Seasons change: holy shit!
>>74177312
Found it
Oh look, even the Romans had fucking global warming, whodathunk?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Warm_Period
>>74172559
Sorry, but this is not an argument in favor of global warming.
>>74177343
Underrated
>>74177555
underwitnessed
>>74172559
El Nino? Noaa is predicting 75% La Nina this year which will drop significantly. Last summer was pretty hot where I live but the El Nino from was still record for hottest.
>>74172624
I deny it because it's global warming
>>74177603
>El Nino from 1997 was hottest
>>74173002
oh how convenient, that the advent of widespread industrialization has seen increased global temperatures. Its purely coincidence
how convenient!
>fucking retard
scientific literacy was never a priority unfortunately
>>74172559
Then why the fuck was it snowing yesterday?
>>74177725
Because it's heading into winter time
>>74177691
See
>>74177485
Explain why the Romans had something similar
>>74177485
>>74177833
I think the Chinese had a warming too
>>74177725
It's May though
Northeast is have 10-20 degree drops this week.
>>74177131
1) It's Happening
2) It has been Happening for 40 years
3) It might be too late
4) There might be some things we can still do to make it Less Happening
We're in for a pretty fucking rough ride. There's a lot of momentum now, so some things are going to Happen that cannot be stopped, and the only real question is if it's too late to prevent the Earth from turning into a Venus.
Google up the atmospheric conditions of Venus. Yes, it could get that bad if we don't stop acting like retarded Trumps. Like, yesterday.
The next level is if the extinction event "only" takes out humanity, but leaves some sort of viable ecosystems behind that can eventually recover (in about 30-50 million years) and possibly some other intelligent species can rise from the ashes. Since we are seeing ecosystem collapse in several areas around the world already, odds are pretty fair we may have already taken out humanity, but we might flounder along for another 100 or 200 years before it's only some fish, cockroaches and mice left to start over.
Some time by about 2030 we'll probably know for certain. Maybe 2050 on the outside. Google "runaway greenhouse effect" and pay attention to the details.
tl;dr -- yeah. It's pretty bad already. Maybe we can science up enough in the next 10-20 years to fix most of the most important stuff.
Maybe we can't.
This April here has been hotter than camel pussy. First time in 5 years living at my current house I can remember not being able to take an evening nap downstairs and having to use the a/c in the bedroom most days.
>>74177889
They probably did. Just not as well documented for the west
Nature always finds a balance. This pendulum will swing back. Can't wait...
>>74172559
I love retards like you. You're not a scientists yet you think your opinion on the matter of global warming matters. It doesn't. Your opinion is just as informed as mine yet you pretend that your smarter because you take the side the "majority" of scientists take.
Did you know that there are a lot of climate scientists who don't think global warming is caused by man and that the liberals do everything they can to shut those people down.
>>74176137
so you have 12 mouths in a year and measurements done for 100 years. So.. every 8 years or so you statistically have f a monthly record just if you spread the records evenly.
Doesn't sound like to much of a great record now does it?
>>74177725
Weather != climate
>>74178165
>hurr durr how dare you believe the "majority" of "scientists" obviously my "republicuck overlords" who have "no climate science experience whatsoever" are "more informed" than your "scientists"
>>74172624
That's why they're idiots and spergy memelords.
It is 48 degrees here, in May!
I remembered when it used to be 70 - 80 around this time.
>>74172559
Great.
Stop global trade.
Stop pushing people into over-developed oil dependent mega cities.
>>74172559
A few years ago I was actively trying to "save the planet", you know, cutting down on energy consumption and whatnot…
The last two years have made me want to see the whole damn thing burning to the ground, fuck PC culture, fuck the Regressive Left and fuck the Fanatic/Religious Right, I WANT TO SEE IT ALL FUCKING BURN!
>>74177555
>>74177592
>>74179292
Not an argument.
>>74177964
Shut up you faggoty pseudo intellectual; you don't know shit.
>>74172559
>>74172624
It was the coldest april in years in my country, I guess you're just from shit countries.
>>74173168
>tfw living in Scotland
Global Warming can only make things better here ayy
>>74172559
Just read the graph.
>Temperature anomaly.
>Less than 2 degrees celsius swing.
>This is 1/50th of the temperature difference between ice and steam.
>>74179653
>that flag
>that mission statement
Wouldn't expect anything less
Also
>fanatic Relgious right
Not hard to tell your just the run of the mill Reddit teir internet fag that blowed in.... Considering in terms of unsustainable social behaviour, it's not the Relgious right, nor the minority extreme left who are the worst sinners, but moderates.
>>74178167
>Did you know that there are a lot of climate scientists who don't think global warming is caused by man and that the liberals do everything they can to shut those people down.
By everything do you mean "subject their work to peer review"?
Anthropogenic climate change is a political narrative devoid of any scientific fact.
>>74172559
Bullshit. This April and may have been the coldest in recent memory
>>74180081
edgy
>>74179800
>>74173168
Won't be laughing when the Gulf streams stops and everything turns siberian
>>74180341
ignorant
Its been really cool in my area. Loving this climate change. May I have some more?
>>74180568
no u
>>74180341
>>74180659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqIy8Ikv-c
>>74172559
Not where I lived.
From Chicago area & had only like 2 or 3 days in April (1 so far in May) that were hot.
It rained & snowed here all throughout April & so far May has been all rain, all the time. Like for 2 weeks I couldn't mow my lawn until we finally had a nice day.
So is Chicago taking all of the cold weather from other areas or what? It sure wasn't a record of highs in April, most likely a record of rainfall or cold weather.
>>74180812
literally a Jew whose father fled the Nazis
how ironic
>>74181316
Go be underage somewhere else.
>>74179721
Neither is "not an argument" little buddy
>>74180812
>Prager
buena goy
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=prager+israel
>>74181392
Lindzen compared the AGW consensus to eugenics, typical Jew move
>leftist cucks insist that unsustainable western lifestyles are causing global warming and that we must cut back in order to survive
>then they turn around and demand we let in millions of shitskins so that they can partake in our unsustainable lifestyle
Nope. The rest of the world can go to hell.
>>74181571
>>74181688
Since you are on purpose ignoring the arguments of the video and incurring on several fallacies by referring to things unrelated I will stop replying to you.
You guys disgust me. Grow a brain for fuck's sake.
>>74182011
Lindzen's iris theory is already discredited, and his 2011 paper was full of shit, what more is there to say? AGW is happening, and shitskins are driving it more and more each year.
>>74182011
>posting youtube videos of "theories" that were debunked over 5 years ago
I hope you dont do this type of shit in non-anonymous settings because i am genuinely embarrassed for you
>>74177725
Where you at? It was snowing here yesterday in Toronto
>>74182294
you are correct sir
>>74181010
Weather and climate are not the same thing. Guess you didn't know that.
April and May have been weird over here, first we get snow then the next week 25C which felt like melting, then it's raining next week then sunny again then cold and now it's getting back up to 25C
Fucking English weather.
>>74183125
>25 degrees
It was 10 here and I couldn't stop sweating, I'm scared for the weather to get higher I don't think I can do it.
>>74183190
Last year it hit like 33C over here, I had to have every window open, the door open, 2 fans on and nearly naked and I was still sweating.
>>74183361
It hits 40 during heat waves here, I just sit in the bathtub it's too hot.
>>74182953
punch a refugee for me pls
>>74173002
We burned 94 million barrels of oil per day in 2014 (don't have 2015 figures). Thats 34 billion barrels of oil per year. 34 billion oil-burning barrels worth of CO2 was dumped into the atmosphere.
Do you disagree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Or do you think all that man-made CO2 "doesn't count" or something? Are you under the delusion that natural processes release anywhere near that much CO2 per year?
Why is atmospheric CO2 at the highest level its been in almost 20 million years? Is the massive jump in the past 150 years of industrialization just a mere coincidence?
I'm no hippie wanting to demolish capitalism, IMO climate change might simply be the inevitable result of the energy demands modern society demands and we just need to deal with it. But pretending we're not causing it, or even worse pretending its not real in the first place, is head-in-the-sand goofiness.
>>74179653
Same, ive realised we are fukn done anyway, maybe we deserve this. Might aswell grab the popcorn and e joy the ride
>>74173861
>CO2 isn't pollution
Pollution is anything we define as being too much of something for a given situation. Talking at normal voice levels in a quiet library is noise pollution. Your cellphone's brightness when standing next to someone using a telescope is light pollution.
>>74184208
.1% of the atmosphere.
This is the 1 thing I can't buy into with Trump's campaign
We literally fucking have to do something. I don't care if it's artificially creating clouds to increase the amount of light getting reflected back out to space or putting shit in the air to get rid of the CO2
Fuck off with your MUH NATURAL CYCLES because we're all fucked if it carries on
>>74185892
Ok good luck convincing China and India and the rest of the Asian third world to do something about it
>>74185997
I guess if you can't beat 'em, join em!
The least we can do is acknowledge it's habbening and start working on huge sea-water purification facilites and a corresponding mass distribution infrastructure (especially for the yanks). Also better start on GMO crops that are resistant to drought + flooding.
>>74185892
>We literally fucking have to do something.
Like what? How do you get rid of fossil fuels?
>>74184392
Not that guy but the shit we dumped into the atmosphere that ate a massive hole in the ozone layer was way less than the amount of co2 were putting out, just because what you're doing is a small fraction of something that's basically inconceivably huge doesn't mean that small fraction (which is actually a shitload of material) it can't have some big effects.
>>74186444
I don't give a shit about using fossil fuels. There just has to be an acknowledgment of the effects that it has already and will cause. Freak unprecedented weather events are an example (california droughts, texas floods, north-east winter 2015) and they'll only get worse over time.
There are ways to combat the effects but they're held up by governments because it's too expensive and there are still those who deny it's happening. Instead they waste money on temporary fixes like the shade balls in the reservoirs and levees to combat rising sea levels
>>74186965
I don't understand. Fossil fuels emit greenhouse gases if you want to do something about it; you have to care about using them.
>>74172559
Yeah and there is nothing you can do about it
There is no sustainable source of energy that can replace oil and coal. And now with mass immigration we are true fucked. You think a bunch of shitskins who are here for a free lunch give a shit about preservation?
Using global warming as a political device will ensure its failure. It only angers people when it's suggested that only the left cares about the planet and if you do then you are a leftist. So progressives will have their day in the sun where globabl warming changes our lives dramatically and their only answer is "I told you so."
No one disagrees, but no one wants to bow to petty political moves.
>>74172559
Oy vey! You can't trust stats! No more regulations!
>>74172559
Holy fuck an entire degree!! Fuck off niggerjewcunt
>>74187071
China + USA and everyone else won't take too kindly to that, so it really isn't a realistic option
As far as other shit goes, there's melting arctic fields of permafrost that are giving off increasing amounts of methane (30 times more potent than co2) and it's a positive feedback loop so every year they just release more and more. Eventually, environmental stuff that has been triggered by the heat increase will have a far larger effect than people ever will
While I won't deny the existence of climate change, I think it's retarded to think humans have anything to do with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
>>74187421
methane's atmospheric effects are fortunately short-lived, but temporarily it will fuck us over
>>74187421
So what should we do to combat the effects of global warming then?
>>74187546
/pol/'s solution to everything
kill a lot of niggers of course
>>74187459
why wouldn't we? all of the pollution we have spewed into the atmo for the last 100 years has gotta go somewhere. it just doesn't disappear. Venus is proof that it happens given enough time. that place is a hell hole.
Earth will be uninhabitable in the future thanks to us.
>>74187546
The only solution is nuclear, maybe hydro electric
>>74187251
Denying something dangerous is happening is the definition of a petty political move.
And there are sustainable alternatives in wind/solar/hydro/nuke/geothermal/tidal/etc sources that just need to be scaled up to our needs (which is in progress even in backwards shitholes like China and India). Even creating petrochemical plants that actually scrub/sequester their byproducts would be a huge improvement over what we do today.
But no, for some reason faggots like you keep up the denial just because you've been trained to think the democrats being right once in a while is worse than the extinction of the human race.
>That feel when it was snowing yesterday
>That feel when it's 2°C right now and it have been cold as fuck for the last 4 weeks
>>74187691
But what about the transportation industry?
>>74177691
>oh how convenient, that the advent of widespread industrialization has seen increased global temperatures
It hasn't actually. Since the end of WW2, around 1940 (when industrialisation and associated CO2 release REALLY started to kick off in a big way), temperatures trended either down or flat for about 40 years until the 80s.
>>74187704
>sustainable alternatives >wind/solar/hydro/geothermal/tidal/etc
Topkek
No one has to accept global warming until solutions for it are anything but globalist powergrabs
>>74187771
Luddites aside, that too can be nuclear powered.
>>74187546
We can make a start by preparing before it's too late. As i said before, salt water purification facilities need to be widespread and effective, and GMO crops need to be more resistant to droughts and floods. Those are the big areas of worry, a food/water crisis.
Otherwise stuff like artificial cloud creation to increase reflection back to space. Stimulating the growth of algae in the oceans to uptake more co2.
Of course we can just let nature play its course and let those who survive, survive
>>74187771
Better localization. Things should be accessible by shorter rides or even walks. You'll notice this is already common in places that have a trusting community already. People need cars when they stop trusting their community, once everyone has cars the small shops shut down and the Kroger opens up.
>oy vey the temperature increased for 7 months
>this means that we will all boil to death and that we must let in more third worlders who dont give two shits about the environment
>>74188470
>People need cars when they stop trusting their community
top kek you are a retard
>>74188573
>implying 99% of people who own a car need one
Good goy
We'll grow oranges in Alaska.
>>74188057
>means of power generation are globalist power grabs
How cucked are you, really?
What's wrong with any of those generation methods? All of them are part of the grid across the world already and they are getting nearly as cheap as coal pretty rapidly even though coal offloads a ton of externalities on the rest of society.
>>74189187
>As cheap as traditional power generation
Only because of massive subsidy and handicaps for the competition though carbon taxation m8.
>>74189187
>it's cucked to favor national sovereignty
Nice try schlomo
The only two that have merit are nuclear and hyrdo, both of which are not environmentally friendly according to environmentalists. The rest are a complete was of resources
>>74188845
Dang it, Dale. We live in Texas. It's already 110 in the summer. And if it gets one degree hotter, I'm kicking your ass.
>>74189334
>implying petrochemical methods of generation don't get massive subsidy and don't get a get out of paying free card because half their emissions just get dumped into the air for everyone else to deal with, implying the health issues from coal mining, pollution, and living near fly ash ponds and other (frequently open air) waste dumps is paid for at all by coal generators
Top kek m8
Fact is there are massive costs borne by society from coal but even then other forms of generation are rapidly closing in due to improvements in materials/tech/manufacturing
I'm surprised anyone living outside of west virginia is retarded enough to keep defending coal generation.
>>74189814
Geothermal is fine so long as it's in a volcanically active area.
>>74189952
Heh. You think that "green" energy appears out of the aether? The rare earth metals involved alone are one of the most toxic industries on the planet.
There is no large scale generation technology that doesn't have some kind of environmental impact. In fact, contrary to popular belief, nuclear is probably the smallest in that area.
praise be to air conditioning
>>74189814
Please explain to me how solar/wind/geothermal threaten your national sovereignty.
I mean you're an ameriburger so you feel threatened by a retard riding a camel and living in a tent in a desert on the other side of the earth is terrifying, but I'm really having a hard time, even taking it to account what cucked pussies Americans are these days, figuring out how a solar panel turns the US into Afghanistan
>>74190234
More nuclear would be nice
As for REE, the pollutants from that is largely from globalization and corporate colonialism is making it easy to create regulation free zones where companies can just do whatever they want with no consequence. Shit needs to be fixed but it's systemic and not limited to rare earth elements. I'd be interested to see a study on what's worse, rare earth mining or coal mining/ash disposal.
Regardless if the choice is between toxic mining vs global warming fucking over everything, I'm going to take the practical choice and take the toxic mining every time. I ain't no feel good hippy and I'll do what I have to.
>>74190471
>Please explain to me how solar/wind/geothermal threaten your national sovereignty.
Well for a start, with the possible exception of geothermal in a nation like Iceland, there is no way that solar or wind are able to power an electrical grid.
>I mean you're an ameriburger so you feel threatened by a retard riding a camel and living in a tent in a desert on the other side of the earth is terrifying, but I'm really having a hard time, even taking it to account what cucked pussies Americans are these days, figuring out how a solar panel turns the US into Afghanistan
If you are going to air your ignorance, you could at least do it in a less obnoxious fashion. Geopolitically, OPEC is one of if not the most powerful entities on the planet - yes that includes the US.
>>74190471
>please tell me how waving the threat of global destruction is a threat to sovereignty
ftfy
>>74190854
OPEC is a sinking ship. Thanks to fracking, much of the world now has the potential to be self sufficient in oil and that includes the US. Saudis are barely staying relevant by flooding the market with cheap oil, but that can't last forever.
>>74172624
This tbghf when will we see equal climate rights for lgbtqiabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv individuals. Smdh at this climate racism
>>74172559
>on the peak of a solar cycle
>El Nino
No surprise there. The lack of those things is why global temperatures have been stables since 2000 up until recently.
>>74172559
it was just 2 degrees celsius here
>>74187771
Diffuse sources of pollution (cars, buses) can be converted to point sources (power plants) through hydrogen/electric car batteries/charging stations. Point source pollution is simpler and more cost effective to control compared to diffuse sources.
>>74174329
your not in wet season because of el nino. sure is nice having your water in california
>>74190803
>I'd be interested to see a study on what's worse, rare earth mining or coal mining/ash disposal.
They are both dirty, regulated or not. To denounce once and then sweep the other under the carpet isn't intellectually honest. An attempt to paint one as clean, green and perfect and the other as strangling baby bald eagles while shitting in your cornflakes. The reality is not so clean-cut and simple.
>Regardless if the choice is between toxic mining vs global warming fucking over everything, I'm going to take the practical choice and take the toxic mining every time. I ain't no feel good hippy and I'll do what I have to.
I am not against initiatives to make mining cleaner, but I am highly sceptical of global warming. It has taken on all the hallmarks of a religious cult.
>>74190961
>Saudis are barely staying relevant by flooding the market with cheap oil, but that can't last forever.
More than long enough to get their ducks in a row. They know the gravy train wasn't going to last forever, so now they are diversifying while suppressing the competition as much as they can.
>>74173680
The effects of climate change on ecosystems is not well understood and is the focus of research. Results are highly suspect though because this phenomenon has never been observed in history and researchers have to make conclusive arguments with very lower certainty, often as low as 25%.
>>74191596
>they are diversifying
Not successfully. Their country is literally a desert.
>suppressing the competition as much as they can
As soon as the price of oil goes up again, millions of US workers start fracking again. They're in panic.
>>74172559
This is just getting obsessive.
The planet was much hotter than it was today 60,000,000 years ago and there was plenty of life.
If humanity legitimately cannot deal with what a bunch of fucking walnut sized brain reptiles could 60,000,000 years ago then we fucking deserve to go extinct.
>>74172559
Nice El Nino year. 1998 was an El Nino year as well.
>>74190854
>opec
So getting of petrochemicals makes us more dependent on opec how?
We reduce coal dependence via renewables which also reduces dependence on oil/gas which makes us MORE independent as a nation, not less.
And why wouldn't solar/wind be able to take care of noir energy needs? There are ways to sequester generated power to feed back onto the grid when conditions are bad for generation, plus you would want to mix all these generation types so you have a good coverage regardless.
>>74191434
I'm not implying they are perfect, but burning coal is shitting up the atmosphere and it's going to bite us in the ass long term, and in that same long term we need to transition off of coal anyway, because it's not eternal. Why wait until we're out of coal and our atmosphere is busted?
>>74176137
You know the past has been repeatedly adjusted down to make warming look worse, right?
>>74191806
The rate of change is more important than the change itself. Normally heating/cooling happened slowly enough that evolution could "keep up", or there is an associated mass extinction.
>>74192168
is this bait?
>>74191781
Unfortunately, Saudi drilling operations along with many others are much more efficient than hydraulic fracturing. Until there is scarcity in their production, which there is currently no indication of, hydraulic fracturing operations will be scarce because of cost limitations. Hopefully the price of oil will rise soon to allow for more US production, but as it currently stands with such a massive oil glut on the market and countries still increasing their production, US exploration and production will fall from its current peak. Take a look at big oil operators and producers, not to mention the smaller ones that are barely staying afloat, and you'll find that they're having a lot of trouble managing costs right now.
>>74192730
Low prices aren't good for the Saudis though. They are running massive deficits right now; they can't keep this up forever.
>>74192135
>So getting [rid] of petrochemicals makes us more dependent on opec how?
Well like I said renewables are still a very long way from being able to power a grid on their own. They are simply too unreliable due to being entirely based on the whims of the weather. To counteract their unpredictable nature they are backed up by traditional power plants (generally gas fired or diesel) - run inefficiently I might add.
There are initiatives for things like large scale batteries to help even it out but they're hugely expensive, still at the prototype stage and depend on rare earths like lithium (which means dealing with countries like Russia and China to get them).
>We reduce coal dependence via renewables which also reduces dependence on oil/gas which makes us MORE independent as a nation, not less.
If (very big if) they can do the whole job - which they can't and at the same time suppress industries that can.
>And why wouldn't solar/wind be able to take care of noir energy needs? There are ways to sequester generated power to feed back onto the grid when conditions are bad for generation, plus you would want to mix all these generation types so you have a good coverage regardless.
See previous. Also keep in mind the conservation of energy and transmission loss.
>I'm not implying they are perfect, but burning coal is shitting up the atmosphere and it's going to bite us in the ass long term, and in that same long term we need to transition off of coal anyway, because it's not eternal. Why wait until we're out of coal and our atmosphere is busted?
Modern efficient coal plants are actually pretty clean. Not absolutely clean, but we are no longer talking about billowing black clouds blanketing the land. Unless you are talking about CO2 which as I previously said I am highly sceptical of. The link between CO2 and rising global temperatures is extremely shaky.
That said, I'm not attached to coal if there was an alternative that could do the job, like nuclear.
>>74192891
The price of oil is bound to increase from these rock bottoms soon. The question is where the equilibrium price will settle with a new oil production landscape. I'd argue that it will be much lower than the $130 highs and most likely lower than $70-80 break-even price point for hydraulic fracturing profitability, which would support OPEC operations.
>>74192628
Why would you think it is?
Sodium Dioxide sprayed into the stratosphere can cool the planet. Go look it up.
>>74193836
As in sodium peroxide? As in bleach?
>By Michael Slezak
>Slezak Name Meaning: Czech and Slovak (Slezák) and Jewish (Ashkenazic)
>Tweet screencap By Gavin Schmidt
>>74172559
With the gridding they do with temperature data, they can make the highs come out however they like.
It's pretty sneaky and the whole climate 'science' scam is run by Jews.
I'm not going to read anything in this thread. Ignore my shitty car but instead notice the snow. I live in Michigan and this photo was taken yesterday.
>>74180459
>this is what global warmalists actually believe
>>74180459
I will.
> Love being a snownigger
Hopefully the polar bear and similar wildlife will have space to expand.
>>74193836
What is sodium dioxide?
>>74172559
who do i write the check to to make it stop?
>>74172624
Shaking my head, and wondering why people will still deny the Creation account in Genesis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuSHz7uOv4
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
>>74172559
Oh no! The global cooling makes everything hot. Whatever happened?
>>74196329
God will burn the earth in the end. So why should we care?
>>74172559
>tfw it was lightly snowing where I live yesterday
Why is my region getting the short end of the global warming stick. Why can't we be part of the raising average
>>74196920
Its 54 where it should be 80F where I live but I'm not really going to deny that the climate is changing but the Earth from its initial creation is falling apart. Just as God planned. So its nothing surprising.
