Because it's addicting, why else? If it weren't addicting then people wouldn't be doing it.
>>74053276
Why do people willingly shit post things on /pol/ that have no relevance to the board?
>>74053276
Why do you eat things you're not supposed to eat, why do you drink things you're not supposed to drink? Why do you do anything you're not supposed to do? Because it feels nice to do it faggot, fuck off with your shitty thread.
>>74053415
Because it's addicting, why else? If it weren't addicting then people wouldn't be doing it.
They fell for the nicotine-jew!
>no benefit
don't knock it til you've tried it
It's an easy answer. If you have to think about it then I'm sorry to say.....
>>74053496
>Getting cancer feels nice
![M_Id_379545_Eating_Chocolate[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yz6sTI1.jpg "M_Id_379545_Eating_Chocolate[1].jpg")
>>74053276
Why do people willing stuff their faces with chocolate for no benefit?
>>74053349
Muh circular logic
>>74053551
>Getting diabetes feels nice
Better not put sugar in anything at all you dumb bitch
>>74053614
Are you saying smoking isn't addicting or feels good? Is there another reason why people willingly do it? Go on leaf.
Ciggies are the greatest thing on Earth I wish I could still smoke
>>74053276
because our ancestors lived in caves for 200,000 years smoking camp fires, its a way to go back to our roots
>>74053652
>3652▶
>>>74053614 (You)
No I'm just saying it is circular logic that he is using
>>74053712
hell, I smoke weed because it feels good. Then again that's not bad for you
Because I can't buy legal weed.
>>74053867
come to Canada. It's still not legal but nobody really cares
It "feels good" because you retards created yourself an artificial addiction.
You should say "Because when I don't have it I feel bad".
Better question yet: Why did you start smoking knowing its effects?
>>74053897
But then I'll become a gay immigrant.
>>74053901
Cigarettes are the true gateway drug. If I never picked up on smoking I would've never done cool things like have sex outside of marriage and try drugs.
>>74053936
I'ts not gay if it's what you want
>>74054078
going to contradict myself here, It's still gay even if you want it
>>74054078
I like being gay, but Canada... I'm good.
>>74054140
Still not as gay as washington
>>74054218
Never been.
Why do people willingly breathe 70% nitrogen for no benefit?
>>74053276
Because same reason junkies would kill themselves over a bigger high. They are addicted to that shit. Nicotine is one of the most powerful of drugs known to man same with caffeine addicts who order double espressos. That shit can blow your heart in minute.
Why do people willingly poison their brains with shitposts for no benefit?
>>74054369
Because ur gay
>>74053276
tobacco is a part of our heritage, feels good man
>>74053276
Jewish conspiracy to keep the white man down.
>>74054487
I couldn't agree more, friend.
Why do people willingly harm their brain by consuming massive amounts of porn and jerking of thrice a day for no benefit?
>>74053496
>Typing a lot of words because you can't speak irl anymore without wheezing
>>74053276
GAS THE SMOKERS
VAPE WAR NOW
It feels good
>>74055380
kek
>>74053276
Why isn't the pursuit of even the merest moment of pleasure justification enough? A human life is a brief spark in the infinity of time, and every second spent nagging, worrying, and abstaining from enjoyment is a tragedy.
Because it ends this miserable existence and I long for death because you get nothing you need in life.
Edgey enough? I want to die.
Watch " Thank you for smoking" I've started smoking at age of 12, all cool kids were doing it, Philip Morris mainly targets kids, have you ever seen an old fag picking a habit at age of 45 ?
I like how all the addicts here are trying to justify smoking
>but but you eat unhealthy food
>but but you drink alcohol
Well, you drink, eat and smoke unhealthy. Great logic isn't it?
>>74053496
>Because it feels nice to do it
Not at first. It's something you have to force yourself to do at first and OP asks why is that. Since you're dishonest I'll tell him.
Two reasons mostly: kids playing grown up, kids trying to fit in with kids playing grown up. Before they know it they're addicted to it and spend the next 20 years smoking and occasionally try to stop.
>>74055556
>Great logic isn't it?
What difference does it make to have an extra vice? You can't even argue around the fact that I'm right, because I'm right.
You people who are so concerned about me smoking are as bad as vegans. I imagine you are as much of a faggot IRL too.
>>74055642
I think most people start smoking because they come into it at the work place. Its what I did.
And it was awesome.
Now I mainly just smoke pipe tobacco and cigars because its the best way to do it.
I started smoking to get laid, now just do it once in a while to relax. So far no cancer. Gotta enjoy life even if it means rolling the dice once in a while.
>>74053568
It's less destructive,dark chochlate even healthy.
>>74055642
This >it feels bad -meme has to end. I've been hearing this shit since I was a child and it wasn't true for me or any of my friends. Unless coughing is terribly painful for most people for some reason. Sure I coughed when I first tried it, but it was just coughing. After that I got a sweet nicotine rush which was a sweet payoff for that horrible few second of coughing.
I don't even smoke, never started smoking because I was aware of the negative health effects of inhaling toxic burning products in your lungs. Just wanted to see how it felt so I can judge it myself instead of parroting some anti-smoking propaganda.
>>74053826
Dude, weed. Lmao? All smoking is bad for you. Inhaling smoke is not healthy. You should be vaping, foliage
>>74053680
but campfires dont stink like an unwashed sow
>have a couple cigars at the lounge 2 or 3 times a month
>run 5 times a week
>breath is just as fine as when I started smoking a year ago
>/pol/ shitposters are now telling me my relaxation hobby is stupid because the only people they see doing it are faggots with cigarettes willingly inhaling chemicals manufactured to addict
Lrn2moderation and you too can enjoy the benefits with little negative effects.
>>74053276
>no benefit
You must be smoking filtered cigarettes.
Tear the filter off, you pussy. Then you'll feel it.
There is a small, rushing high associated with one's first few nicotine dosages before addiction sets in. Afterwards the nicotine is repeated primarily to deal with the extensive withdrawal symptoms.
>>74053276
>>74056085
Smoking is Good for You!
AKA, Smokers' Paradoxes
Note that the studies referenced are what is known as "hard science" as opposed to the "soft science" of epidemiological studies. Also, notice that the research here is not in tobacco literature or tobacco-funded literature; in fact, many of the studies cited are actually from antismoking literature funded by Big Tobacco Control and/or Big Pharma.
>ONE FEELS BETTER TEMPERED
>Smoking Reduces Parkinson's
Neurology. 1999 Sep 22;53(5):1158. Smoking and Parkinson's disease: a dose-response relationship Gorell JM, Rybicki BA, Johnson CC, Peterson EL | Department of Neurology, Henry Ford Health System, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Center in Molecular and Cellular Toxicology with Human Applications, Wayne State University, Detroit, MI, USA.
The lower risk of Parkinson disease among current and former smokers varied with smoking duration, intensity, and recentness. The dependence of this association on the timing of smoking during life is consistent with a biologic effect.
>Osteo-arthritis reduced threefold (the most for knee arthritis in women)
IS OSTEOARTHRITIS IN WOMEN AFFECTED BY HORMONAL CHANGES OR SMOKING? from the journal for British Society for Rheumatology (1993).
>Internal antioxidant SOD doubled
(recent article labels the higher SOD "the elixir of eternal life" based on animal experiments)
From Scientists find elixir of eternal life - in a worm By Roger Highfield, Science Editor, "Detailed work showed that the gene can boost levels of proteins called SODs (superoxide dismutase) which mop up free radicals, harmful chemicals linked with aging. The researchers think that this may be a defense mechanism that helps the creatures tolerate starvation."
>>74055858
>Smoking enhances your life.
>>74053276
>>74056698
>Reduced MAO B enzyme
(smokers in their 60s have MAO B of nonsmokers in their 20s; also here). Lowering of MAO B is the Holy Grail (deprenyl does it but not as well as tobacco) of life-extension and smart drug circles.
The real eye-opener comes from theNational Institute on Drug Abuse! That's about as far as you can get from being a shill for Big Tobacco! Yet, this antismoking group's very own study, "Tobacco Smoke May Contain a Psychoactive Ingredient Other Than Nicotine" (NIDA News, Volume 13, Number 3, July, 1998), states plainly:
>The amount of the enzyme, called monoamine oxidase (MAO), is reduced by 30 to 40 percent in the brains of smokers, compared to nonsmokers or former smokers, the brain scans show. The reduction in brain MAO levels may result in an increase in levels of dopamine, which scientists associate with the reinforcing effects of drugs of abuse.
You new zeleanders sure know how to shitpost. Smoking is only bad for you because health organizations say it is. Outside of the west, smoking is harmless because it was never smoking that hurt people, it was always diet that hurt people. In the west diets are garbage.
Every study that said smoking was bad for you had no way of controlling for other factors and is just correlation bullshit, not definitive causation. All health groups that have tried to deem smoking as bad are just faking in order to push most of the world's health problems onto smoking. They've sadly succeeded at doing that.
>>74056698
>>74056743
Telomerase ("fountain of youth") much more active in smokers.
Smoking is associated with increased telomerase activity in short-term cultures of human bronchial epithelial cells, Cancer Letters 2007 Feb 8;246(1-2):24-33. Epub 2006 Mar 6--from the Laboratory of Molecular Carcinogenesis, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA.
>Glutathione (chief antioxidant in human body) and catalase (another key antioxidant which neutralizes alcohol damage, cyanide,...) doubled in smokers.
Also explained by NightLight.
From The Abstract of Normal alveolar epithelial lining fluid contains high levels of glutathione in the Journal of Applied Physiology (Vol. 63, Issue 1, p. 152-157):
The epithelial cells on the alveolar surface of the human lower respiratory tract are vulnerable to toxic oxidants derived from inhaled pollutants or inflammatory cells. ... This study demonstrates that the epithelial lining fluid (ELF) of the lower respiratory tract contains large amounts of the sulfhydryl-containing antioxidant glutathione (GSH). The total glutathione (the reduced form GSH and the disulfide GSSG) concentration of normal ELF was 140-fold higher than that in plasma of the same individuals, and 96% of the glutathione in ELF was in the reduced form. Compared with nonsmokers, cigarette smokers had 80% higher levels of ELF total glutathione, 98% of which was in the reduced form.
More studies on antioxidants in people who smoke can be found in the Journal of Applied Physiology.
Selective increase of antioxidant enzyme activity in the alveolar macrophages from cigarette smokers and smoke-exposed hamsters. for American Review of Respiratory Disease, (1990 Mar, vol. 141, no 3, p. 678-82).
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=169&t=15654&st=20&#entry170219
JUST FUCKING GOOGLE ANYTHING I HAVEN'T LINKED! THE STUDIES ARE ALL THERE, YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
>>74053276
You will die anyway
>>74053276
No benefit? You sure?
It's a psychological thing.
Some people need a mental bridge of sorts to transition from child to adulthood. And cigarettes act as this bridge. They get your mind to a place where you attach your transition to a bad habit because you saw adults do it, for some people it's alcohol, some cigarettes. You whittle your childhood away with a drag of a cigarette. And then you go and bang chicks.
Have you noticed that people who have never either smoked or drank in their entire lives, are pussyfied little mouses that cover when you use a strong tone.
Yeah, it's a cancerous faggotry that most people get addicted, even though it would have the same effect if used moderately during transition to adulthood and then dropped. But cigarettes are very addictive. And some people attach their adulthood to them, which is an unhealthy psychological crutch, telling of insecurity, usually manifested in children of single mothers.
>>74056996
>smoking causes an overproduction of one chemical as a side effect
>wow miracle it's awesome please ignore the slew of other health problems, numbering in the thousands, that smoking causes
Did it cause I want to die, stopped though once I came to /pol/ and opened my eyes
I'm about 12 hours smoke-free and I'm in hell.
>>74058139
Fool. Did you attribute any of those supposed health problems to smoking and conveniently forget that diet and air pollution are what actually play a much bigger role? Do you not realize that every study is simply studying smoking without ruling out other factors?
Do you?
>>74053276
Because it means I'll die in my 50s instead of 70s. Its less time I'm around cocksuckers like you.
>>74057777
Quads wasted on a retard who thinks smoking cigs, getting cancer and dying a painful death is beneficial.
>>74058290
Clearly in every study related to smoking, the randomized trial groups somehow contained only smokers living in extremely high pollution areas. Also they all ate exclusively processed food. This wasn't mentioned in any discussion of the results though. Nope.
Lol
>>74058960
You have to take two completely identical groups and THEN test them you ignoramus. The studies don't do that. That's the problem.
Most of American smokers live off of fast food and live in the city. Studies of rural smokers show a bit of difference. Do some fucking research.
>>74058960
Who smokes and is avaliable for research studies? People in cities
What do smokers eat? Whatever they want, fuck you, ie tasty fast food with organotoxic preservatives, industrial chemical additives, etc
>>74056698
>>74056743
>>74056996
Scientifically illiterate person from the isle of man unironically shitposting. You can disregard scientific posts if they contain phrases like "the elixir of life" or "the fountain of youth".
Anyway:
Smoking produces a shitload of oxidants and another shitload of DNA damage. It is a stress factor and the changes you see are adaptions to that stressor. Of fucking course your body has to ramp up the production of glutathion and upregulate it's DNA repair mechanisms to deal with the damage. So while these adaptions would be benefitial in an unstressed individual they don't do much when you actively try your best to screw over your DNA repair. It's like visiting the inner chambers of Chernobyl and then boasting "Ha see guys my nucleotide excission repair and my double-strand-break repair systems are much more active than yours. Wow the expression levels of Rad, Brca and Mut are of the charts. I must be a superhuman"
But let based David Godsell explain to you what is one of the shitty things that happens when you smoke theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/cgi/content/full/9/4/469
See how you are throwing your poor DNA polymerase under the bus? See?
So while there are more disadvantages to smoking (i.e. reduced lung capacity, high blood pressure, various types of cancer), at the end of the day two things are true:
1. The vast majority (>90%) of people who get lung cancer are smokers and 20% of all smokers die from lung cancers.
2. You are a scientifically iliterate CUNT that is too afraid to deal with the facts.
As we say here: "everyone wants to be Helmut Schmidt (ex-chancellor, >90 year old smoker) but noone wants to be the 38 year old nameless guy who gets both his feet amputated".
>>74059124
hivemind
poison is a relative term
its 'poisonous' for someone whose body cant repair the damage effectively
>>74059192
>You can disregard scientific posts if they contain phrases like "the elixir of life" or "the fountain of youth".
Reinforcing the stereotype of overly literal Germans. I see you handle hyperbole badly, Hans.
>Of fucking course your body has to ramp up the production of glutathion and upregulate it's DNA repair mechanisms to deal with the damage. So while these adaptions would be benefitial in an unstressed individual they don't do much when you actively try your best to screw over your DNA repair. It's like visiting the inner chambers of Chernobyl and then boasting "Ha see guys my nucleotide excission repair and my double-strand-break repair systems are much more active than yours. Wow the expression levels of Rad, Brca and Mut are of the charts. I must be a superhuman"
You're violently delusional. Native Americans smoked tobacco for generations and could live to lifespans comparable to modern Americans. Although that's not saying much.
>Lung cancer
Please compare and contrast the average statistical consumption of HFCS soda with how much that level of intake increases likelihood of diabetes or heart disease.
Everybody dies of something. Dying of "old age" is a meme. On the other hand, many smokers live to a ripe old age.
>>74059523
Is everyone a gay hot guy there or am I not reading your flag right also hi from america :^)))
>>74059192
That was all garbage dude.
Posting from the other thread.
http://www.smokescreens.org/does-smoking-harm-health/
http://www.smokescreens.org/arm-yourself-with-facts/
http://www.smokescreens.org/secondhand-smoke-firsthand-lies/
>>74059523
>>74059869
Ok. So you really don't want to face the facts.
So how do you explain the corelation between smoking and dying from lung cancer?
Why do 20% of all smokers die from lung cancer?
Why are over 90% of all lung cancer patients smokers?
Are you saying these facts are wrong? Is a pro-smoking blog really more trustworthy than the fucking WHO?
Anyway you do your thing, I will be out for a run now. So have fun when the doctor is cutting both your feet off.
>>74053276
>Why do people willingly poison their bodies with charred and smoked meat for no benefit? They should just boil the chicken and eat it unseasoned so it would be healthier!
>for no benefit
But there is benefit, even if there are also health drawbacks. You can eat healthier boiled chicken, or delicious barbecued chicken. Similarly, you can breath healthy air or you can add some flavor to it.
>>74060749
I dont see what a band from the 70s has to do with smoking.
>>74060749
>So how do you explain the corelation between smoking and dying from lung cancer?
Easy, that 20% is also exposed to asbestos, air pollution, processed carbs (which in a recent news segment was revealed to increase lung cancer by 50%), don't scapegoat smoking just because it smells, buddy.
>Why are over 90% of all lung cancer patients smokers?
Because they were also exposed to what also contributed heavily to their cancer. Also, the 90% tatiatic is outdated and wrong.
>Are you saying these facts are wrong? Is a pro-smoking blog really more trustworthy than the fucking WHO?
Yes because unlike the WHO, the pro smoking blog looks at the studies and results rationally and comes to the proper conclusion that the WHO is cherry picking data.
http://www.davehitt.com/facts/epa.html
http://www.davehitt.com/facts/who.html
>Anyway you do your thing, I will be out for a run now. So have fun when the doctor is cutting both your feet off
I don't smoke and everyone I know who does is in perfect health. Sorry that reality upsets you.
>>74053276
it doesn't have no benefit
it's a move improves, souths anger, increases highs, makes you more patient with people.
I quit a week ago. havent actually kicked nicotine (gum and vaporiser) but I was definitely starting to notice the health problems, being short of breath, waking up every morning wheezing like a bagpipe
i dont think im fully out of the woods but i'm glad i at least made the start
>>74061336
Is the unhealthy feeling possible due to other factors like diet or lack of exercise or are you sure it's all smoking related?
