Okay, what the fuck? This is total bullshit.
I'm starting to see a leftie bias on this website, I re-did the test and now suddenly I'm where Trump is, even though before I was half-way in the right and in the middle.
I find it funny how Bernie is the "rational person" in the middle and all of the rest are "fearmongeringly bigoted" in the absolute edge.
>>73903978
except that's probably where they stand politically. it is a fact that the political standard in the U.S. has shifted to the right and become more authoritarian and colonialist.
>>73904743
also clinton is closer to the top
How did I do?
>>73903978
People still go on that bullshit site? Yea it's bias, it's been bias for awhile now.
>>73904743
literally this
It seems a bit more accurate if you remove the irrelevant ones though.
>>73903978
Trump is not authoritarian. He's far less authoritarian than Bernie *take wealth from white people at gunpoint* Sanders.
Complete bullshit.
Trump more authoritarian than Hilary Clinton? What the fuck?
>>73903978
>tfw u want to introduce socialized healthcare
>tfw u want to expand government and put a perfectly good business fueled by competition and the free market into the hands of the fucking LITERAL GOVERNMENT
>tfw u are left wing neutral
i mean u lost me tb,h
>>73905114
The authoritarian/libertarian scale refers to social policy.
The left/right spectrum is where policies like taxation are factored in.
>Not being bottom right
Bootlicking scum
>>73905114
>le taxes are theft meme but legalizing torture and rounding up and deporting millions of people isn't authoritarian
>>73903978
>>73905114
The Aut/Lib spectrum is social policy for this table.
So being pro-gay marriage and pro-abortion will get you further down
>>73905212
Still not authoritarian.
>Forcing people to accept gay marriage is Libertarian
>Not caring about gay marriage and letting states decide themselves is Authoritarian
>Hating white people and actively discriminating against them with affirmative action is Libertarian
>Not caring about race issues and simply letting people achieve what they can themselves is Authoritarian
>Forcing the taxpayers to pay for millions of immigrants who bring crime is Libertarian
>Not wanting the tax payer to be burdened with illegal immigrants and ''refugees'' is Authoritarian
What
the
fuck?
Whichever way you slice it this doesn't make any sense.
>>73903978
>>73903978
its made by British socialists, so it should be obvious that there is a weird skew putting people authoritarian-right
>>73904743
It's impossible to go so high up in that test
>>73905299
Oh yeah, having laws is Authoritarian. Wouldn't want to be Authoritarian and enforce those laws.
>>73905541
Nice twisting it to sound like how you want.
It's generally understood that a fixed set of policies are one direction or the other.
I accept that property rights is generally considered a libertarian policy by accepted definitions. I could very make the case that actually access rights are far more libertarian. It would be a legitimate argument but generally isn't the definition of libertarianism.
The last point you made is barely even a discussion though. Obviously free movement rights are fundamental to almost every strand of libertarianism.
>>73904938
Fascist pig!
>>73905299
>rounding up and deporting millions of people isn't authoritarian
No, deporting illegal aliens is not authoritarian. Having borders is not authoritarian. If, since 1986, the border patrol and ICE had been properly funded and allowed to do their jobs then we wouldn't have millions of illegal aliens in the country right now. This is a problem which politicians have consistently kicked down the hallway for generations and the solution is neither amnesty nor open borders.
Tl;dr: fuck off we're full
>>73905111
Trump is way to the left of Clinton economically
here's where i roleplayed as trump
i wonder if this site actually did the same for the candidates. i doubt it.
>>73905111
you forgot one
>>73905982
Who did I forget? They're the only ones left in the race.
Joe Biden will only come in if Hillary gets indicted.
>>73905859
You just said a bunch of nothing.
It's very clear that this spectrum is biased to put undesirable opinions as ''authoritarian''.
This spectrum doesn't care about how you enforce your political stances, it simply looks at your stances and says ''I don't think it, therefore it's authoritarian''. Don't like gays? You're authoritarian. You're pro-gay and you are arresting people for daring to offend gay people? You're not authoritarian. It's as simple as that.
>>73905931
Only since becoming the presumptive nominee.
If you are above the line, you disgrace those who fought to protect liberty throughout history. You should be ashamed.
This is my position btw.
>>73905762
This. Unless the candidates actually took the test then dont say thats where they fall
>>73903978
>Bernie is the rational person
Bernbots have a loaded debt gun in their mouth and the trigger is about to be pulled. I'd imagine anyone not offering to wave away their debts looks extreme from their point of view.
>>73903978
its a shill compass, if you reply reasonnably you get exactly where sanders is.
>>73905827
No, it's only authoritarian to enforce laws which the left dislikes. Forcing hiring quotas for women and minorities on private businesses, imprisoning Christians for not embracing homosexuality, shutting down free speech on campus, media and Internet censorship, criminalization of "hate speech" (and redefinition of all non-leftist views as "hate speech"), making self-defense illegal, banning cigarettes, sugar, salt, and transfats, raising income tax rates to 75-90%, ending homeschooling and school-choice, these are all good laws in the eyes of the left, and totally not authoritarian
>>73906343
found the bernie supporter
>>73903978
Yeah the site has a total leftist bias. IDK if the question still exists but there was a question about gun rights worded funny and it counted toward authoritarian...
I actually emailed the site owner and asked him about the question and he said something along the lines of: "people who advocate for gun rights are advocates for violence in the political process, that's authoritarian". That was maybe 5 years ago now and the site has been around for much longer than that.
So yeah, total leftist bias.
>>73906149
bernie literally has no chance
>>73903978
So if I wanted to create and absolute monarchy where the working class is riddled with slave gene eugenics from birth, disabled people are killed, and the ruling class is a distinct separate species how would that even register on here? Because they already set the bar for the top right corner pretty fucking low. Where's their fucking imagination?
>>73906563
Technically, he could make up the delegate difference just by winning big in california alone.
Far more likely to win through some kind of chaos at the convention involving Hillary getting indicted though.
It's unlikely either way but it's certainly not impossible.
Anarcho-capitalism, or the rest of anarchuism? (as all the leftist anarchist ideaologies are compatible with each other, but not with anarcho-capitalism)
>>73905982
I had him over to the right a few blocks
>>73906723
Californian delegates are awarded proportionally. It's impossible.
>>73905982
The funny thing is I have been a Lou Dobbs conservative (I.e. Trump before he ran) since 2008 and I have always got about one or two squares up and to the right of center, because choosing a mix of "far left" and "far right" positions balances out to a counterintuitive centrist rating. The four-way spectrum doesn't really represent populism well, whether it's right or left populism.
Example: anti-gay, anti-illegal alien, pro-drug decriminalization, pro-gun is about a net wash for social libertarian/authoritarian;
Anti-taxes, anti-federal reserve, anti-"free trade" deals, pro-tariff is a net wash for economic right/left
So there is literally no way that they took the quiz role playing as the politicians or parties, they just put dots and names on their little map
>>73906677
Yeah, where would Edmund Burke or Andrew Jackson go on that map?
How did I do?
>>73906468
>"people who advocate for gun rights are advocates for violence in the political process, that's authoritarian".
Fucking insane bongladeshi shitstabbers
That site is a joke
>Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
wtf does that have to do with anything
Are we being Hillary-ied? Does our record need correcting?
>>73907162
Ein Reich Ein Volk und Ein Fuhrer / 10
>>73905762
Not true, I consistently get pic related.
>>73907399
[spoiler]fascist pig[/spoiler]
>>73905646
Hit the nail on the head with the Gadsden Flag
>>73907399
do you say you are a super pro-corporation race supremacists to get there ?
>>73907300
If you agree den yur nazi cus Hitler hated artists bcuz he was failed artist :^)
Rate
>>73907530
I am literally a fascist who believes in mix of national syndicalist corporatism and a Nationalist libertarian form of economics (somewhat similar to what Hayek had in mind)
I even answered pro protectionism and the like.
I think the problem is, the majority of /pol/ isn't as authoritarian and isn't as free market as it seems to believe.
>>73907484
I am a fascist.
>>73907769
>the majority of /pol/ isn't as authoritarian and isn't as free market as it seems to believe.
pol isn't one person, but you can't really be libertarian and a nationalist, it's just a fringe ideology
Trump isn't near that authoritarian and sanders is a lot further to the left, i mean, he's literally a socialist
>>73907399
You actually believe in astrology?
>starting to see a leftie bias
Only starting? We've known that site has a left bias for years.
>>73908052
I mean you can, that's the bedrock of conservatis/radical conservatism And especially paleoconservatism.
The good of the nation and the nation being put first, using economic freedom to create wealth and the like but never to the point where the nation or its people suffer as a consequence from the economic freedom (such as through competition from foreign companies.)
Oh and pic related is what I get from trying to answer the test as Donald trump.
>>73908284
The site literally puts you more right if you only answer questions as racistly as possible.
>>73908091
Nationalizing the healthcare industry, regulating banks, and free public university isn't super left. He's fine with the vast majority of the economy to remain private and free market.
>>73908143
Nope.
I do believe in a form of totalitarianism though,
>>73908477
>>73907952
My nigga
>>73905225
Purple pride
>>73908091
He's not really a full blown socialist, he just uses that to be edgy and pick up all of the communist college kids.
>>73907300
Like modern ''art'' -> you're a stupid leftist commie
Dislike modern ''art'' -> you're a dumb Republican who is too STOOOOPID to appreciate art
>>73908542
I thought you needed to believe in astrology to score that highly on authoritarianism.
>>73905646
What are the two at the bottom? Something about egoism?
>>73908750
>astrology -> ??? -> authoritarianism
>>73909097
The idea is that believing in astrology means you believe that the universe is more deterministic and governed by laws in such a manner that this authority and mechanical view is inescapable and that this belief correlates with other authoritarian beliefs about control and the like.
Do we all agree that pic related is less biased?
>>73909391
yes
>>73903978
>even shitty political compass websites have an agenda
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>73903978
the fact that reddit cucks consider me a hate mongering racist is pretty scary
>>73909322
That's still stupid. They should replace it with something more related to authoritarianism.
I particularly enjoy this test because it isn't about questions in a survey style, but allows you to position society in the best way that you see fit. Which honestly seems like it'd give a far more accurate representation of what you want.
>>73909391
what test is this?
>>73909784
Link?
>>73909784
what is this test?
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-2.5&soc=-3.54 me
>>73909960
noice
>>73909784
link pliz
>>73909784
LINK BITCH!
>>73903978
I always tries to imagine god woulf fit on this chart
>>73909843
http://politicaltest.net/en
>>73909902
>>73909918
http://filteries.com/politics
>>73909447
>>73909612
Basically I'm an atheist authoritarian who knows free market and communism is for retards.
>>73910402
Thanks
This test is fucked btw we really need to quit using it
>>73910366
Highest authoritian probably either at the furthest left or furthest right.
>>73910402
thanks
>>73910477
But would you not agree there is a higher than average correlation between atheism and communism? And would you not agree that life in a completely free market society is preferable to soviet style complete communism?
>>73910402
Many thanks
>>73910673
Don't forget to post em.
>>73907769
>Authoritarian
>Free market
Pick one
Pinochet was a meme, true free markets are based on voluntarism.
>>73909447
secularfag
Get on my level
>>73910620
>But would you not agree there is a higher than average correlation between atheism and communism?
I'm not sure but it might make sense if there is one, if only a small correlation. Authoritarian communist leaders in the past seem to believe that they should be worshiped rather than Gods. People who idolize these leaders will often think the same.
I know in America, a lot of fundamentalist Christians will support Republican candidates, so I think a lot of atheists will lean towards Democrats in order to oppose them.
>>73911370
wew lad
>>73911140
I don't agree with the non-aggression principle and I only care about the free market as something that increases the efficiency of the state.
As soon as the nation/state becomes weakened or it becomes inefficient, I no longer care about the free market.
Can you tell me what is the practical benefit of the free market and the like if the nation/state is suffering from it? And it somehow increases inefficiency?
If your argument is about anything except increasing the benefits of the nation it is a meaningless argument to me.
>>73911302
My nigger.
>>73911370
So you want New York?
>>73909784
Mine:
>>73911813
Why are you so pro immigration?
>>73904743
Trump is not the apex of authoritarianism, if he were to do the test he would never reach that high.
>>73911813
>drugs and prostitutes legal
>gambling completely banned
>>73904743
In their comparison ones at the bottom where they show how your results match up with famous thinkers and leaders, clinton is about where hitler is, and the rest are way more authoritarian. It's stupid
>>73911998
It's an interesting as a look into how the left views trump though, they see in him everything they fear about the right.
>>73911975
I'm not. My position is more complex. I support completely free movement with open borders between developed countries but tighter controls on less developed countries.
My objection to immigration is a purely economic one.
I didn't really see such a nuanced position on that so I just picked the closest.
>>73912158
thats more like "allowed from certain countries"
>>73912158
There's the "allowed from certain countries" option.
>>73911754
>So you want New York?
>gun bans
>soda bans
no thx
>>73912069
Am I not allowed to have nuance in my positions?
With drugs and prostitutes you're making an informed purchase and know exactly what the exchange is.
With gambling, you're taking a risk. You could potentially lose all your money. In a society I would want to create, the state would act as an essential provider for everybody. I don't think it would be practical for the state to keep reimbursing compulsive gamblers.
welcome to the perfect societ
>>73903978
>>73912233
>>73912244
I don't want people banned from other countries though. They just have to meet criteria.
>>73912371
well for my country gambling would be a benefit, since its mostly tourists that will be losing their money :^)
>>73912460
then the allowed for education and buisiness is more suitable, allowing only educated or richfags
>>73912544
But then that's only true for less developed countries so it's still not accurate.
>>73912414
GLORIOUS
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>>73912414
>you will never live in a Glorious Anarcho-Fascist Monarchy
>>73903978
I feel for you. Long gone are the days when there were no political correctness. And now even us are drawn into that shit.
Remember my fellow countryman, when was the last time you could say freely these olden Finnish sayings without a shitstorm:
"Be a black guy, I don't care, but don't be a damn nigger"
Or:
"Be a gay, I don't care, but don't be a damn faggot."
We are all doomed, even up here in Nordics.
>>73912690
we aren't less developed, we just have 3 times our population in tourists every year, it will always be more profitable
>>73903978
if Trump's that far up than where dafuq is Hitler and Mussolini?
>>73912905
I was responding to the second bit.
>>73912985
Leftists believe pic related senpai.
>>73909009
I too would like to know this.
>>73910504
Use this one instead.
http://politicaltest.net/en
>>73905225
I'm purple, but not that extreme. I don't identify as a libertarian at all, I'm just a bit more secular.
>>73907694
Literally me
>>73913206
Don't recognize the flags, but "spooks" is a term frequently used by meme philosopher Max Stirner.
>>73904743
>>73903978
I literally answered like an edgelord hitlerist and didn't even get that high. According to the political compass Hitler was a somewhat authoritarian centrist.
>Bourgeois Patriot
>Bourgeois
Eat shit, I'm an aristocrat.
>>73909009
Yes, mister spooks is obviously Stirner.
Dunno about the other one.
>>73909009
>>73913206
Egoist and individual anarchism.
>>73913390
Labels are stupid
>every republican is literally hitler
>>73904743
are you fucking stupid?
if that were the case, don't you think sanders would be even further to the left?
Has political compass said anything about Nixon?
Richard would probably literally be Stalin.
Did wage/price control (but stopped after he learned it doesn't work)
Proposed single payer healthcare
Proposed minimum guaranteed income
Hated gunrights.
Etc. etc.
>>73911302
We're pretty much alike, only that I'm more extroverted and less authoritarian
Apparently I'm a Bourgeois Patriot ;^)
>>73911813
cuck: the diagram
>>73914580
Welcome to the club my fellow bourgeois
I am not that clear what taxes does what desu
>>73915423
Which website is this from?
>>73915423
>I am not that clear what taxes does what desu
Singapore is dead.
>>73904743
No it hasn't, expectations have just shifted to the 'left'. You're probably an idiot raised on the 'right winged people are dumb' meme, with no understanding of politics. Not surprising you get your political guidance from a fucking square.
>>73903978
Agee 100%
Trump would be slightly southeast of the Nazis, Hillary would be slightly to the left of the Nazis
>>73903978
>>73905111
I'm almost the same as Bernie is, but my answers were closer to Trumps views regarding migration, education, economy, minorities, women.
Calling this bullshit propaganda. Commie jew is fucking completely left, nowhere near the center
i fucking hate when people try and make a fucking graph out of something like politics
>>73903978
>Bernie Sanders
>in the fucking middle
>wants to make the entire country dependent on welfare
>wants to completely eradicate the middle class
>wants to ban all semi automatic guns
>middle
Yeah this website is definitely biased, OP. I'd say you are right.
>>73912371
>In a society I would want to create, the state would act as an essential provider for everybody
That society was already created and it did not end well, see the Fall of the Soviet Union.