>massive tax cuts for him and his billionaire buddies
>opposes net neutrality
>wants to gut the EPA
>doesn't believe in climate change
>thinks wages are too high
>wants to repeal Obamacare
>neo-con foreign policy (supported Iraq War, supports drones, opposes Iran deal)
Why do you keep lying and claim this guy is "moderate" again?
>>73900967
because the media tells us he is a liberal
I am now voting for a true conservative
>supported Iraq War
You need to stop outright lying, shill.
>>73900967
I'm pretty sure there is some serious astro-turfing going down on /pol/.
Or maybe that's how cheaply this place is bought, saying he'll ban muslims and spics.
>doesn't believe in climate change
That's more of a "being retarded" thing than "being right-wing".
>>73901126
>You need to stop outright lying, shill.
Howard Stern 2002
You need to fuck off shill.
>>73901126
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/12/recidivism-watch-trumps-false-claim-that-he-opposed-the-iraq-war/
You might want to fact check more
>>73900967
He's definitely not as amazing as his supporters make him out to be, but the path is now set for him to face whoever the democratic candidate will be.
Right-wingers in the U.S. are going to have to make a choice - get behind Trump, or accept whoever the democratic nominee is as their new president. That country is doomed anyway.
>>73901329
I'm voting Libertarian or Green Party this year, haven't decided which one yet
Don't forget: the first tax policy he advocated, waaay back last summer, was repealing the estate tax.
Just chew on that for a minute. Who is he serving?
>>73901407
Green. We could get back to Nader status of 2000 and push the Democrats left.
>>73901441
Estate tax is levied on people who inherit shit after their family dies, so the ultra rich with millions or even billions in assets is who that will benefit
I don't trust Trump, never have and never will
>>73900967
>also wants to throw OP and his family out of America
Evens out all the other points.
>>73901441
>Who is he serving?
Big corporations just like all RepubliKKKans
>>73901289
>waterboarding = war support
You aren't very good at this. I hope you continue to post because the thought of Hillary paying for sub par shilling gets me erect.
>>73900967
Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill
>>73901582
What makes you assume OP isn't white? Ad hominems aren't the way to go about trying to refute someone's points
Net neutrality...read between the lines...it means govt cant tap your monitors and hypnotize you. So if he opposes it. Well we'll be cursed with stupidity. All it does is damage.
>>73901516
Do we really want the Democracts more left than they already are though? I mean I think Bernie Sanders is just the beginning of the radicalization. I hope there's a more moderate party that emerges in the future honestly.
Im mostly for Trump to slow the brown people from entering during my life time. It will eventyally be a third world country either way
>>73900967
He's been vocal against every major conflict america has gotten itself into since Vietnam.
Try harder, shillary.
>>73901778
I'm not sure you even understand what net neutrality even is. Net neutrality is the principle that the ISP's should all allow access to the same websites and services without favoring certain ones over others, as well as an internet that allows for free speech.
>http://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
>>73900967
>supported Iraq War
retard OP
>massive tax cuts for him and his billionaire buddies
as well as much more massive tax cuts for the middle class and the poor
>>73902021
He supported the invasion of Iraq at the time
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/12/recidivism-watch-trumps-false-claim-that-he-opposed-the-iraq-war/
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/25/timeline-of-trumps-comments-on-iraq-invasion-not-loud-not-strong-and-no-headlines/?tid=a_inl
>>73902259
How is reducing the government's income from taxes to pre WWII levels going to fund our current budget? It won't.
>>73902245
Can you refute OP's claim? With evidence? And the fact that you only called OP out on just one of many points shows that you only look for low picking fruit on the tree.
>tax cuts are bad
>>73902558
They are bad if you can't fund the government budget for things like defense and infrastructure.
>>73902384
i know which is why i think the us should decrease their military budget. they mostly use it to protect other countries, and i think we europeans should be able to protect ourselves
>>73902829
Exactly. Our military expenses are ridiculous and in my opinion need to be distributed elsewhere to areas of the United States more needed such as infrastructure and education.
>>73902643
>thinking cutting taxes a bit will prevent the government from funding necessities
you're fucking retarded. perhaps the government should reduce spending and entitlements. the government will always spend whatever it collects plus a little extra and the best way to put pressure on them to lower spending is to lower taxes.
>>73902958
>military expenses are bad
>education expenses are good, even though history shows that throwing money at the problem does nothing and our school systems have continued to decline since the '50s
the functions of the government are to provide a court of law to settle disputes, to protect citizens from external enemies and to protect citizens from each other. I am for cutting the military and I actually think police are more deserving of the benefits people in the military get, however the military is a fundamental function of the government and warrants high spending more than anything other program of the government.
>massive tax cuts for him and his billionaire buddies
Tax cuts for all actually
>opposes net neutrality
Meh, it's business
>wants to gut the EPA
This is a good thing
>doesn't believe in climate change
Literally no one with sense cares
>thinks wages are too high
Not true at all, wants wages to rise naturally by bringing American corporations back to the states and keeping them here
>wants to repeal Obamacare
Thank god, horrible socialist pseduo utopian bullshit, only children in college stand by it.
>neo-con foreign policy (supported Iraq War, supports drones, opposes Iran deal)
First one is straight up false and makes me think you're just le epin trolling, drones to kill terrorists is not bad, Iranian deal is a horrible disaster that will lead to more problems.
>>73902643
>like defense and infrastructure.
But trump will pay for that with MAGIC
>>73903320
>Tax cuts for all actually
LOL Trumpfags are this fucking stupid.
>>73902302
As a businessman. The Don is pretty patriotic
>>73903356
Those all look like tax cuts to me, whether they are weighted towards one side doesn't mean it isn't still a tax cut. Thanks for proving me right.
>>73900967
The business of America is business.
It's time to have a businessman at the helm.
7 years of a Marxist rebel were ruinous. Four years of a corrupt cunt would be disastrous.
>>73900967
Trump will appoint another GOP justice who will overturn Roe v Wade and the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling.
>>73903356
>factoring in corporate taxes in a chart of supposed effects on individuals
Even the democrats want the corporate tax rate cut to 15%, the gop wants 0% usually.
>>73900967
You are absolutely right. These /pol/ guys, I tell you. This whole Trump guy really is a monster. We have to stop him. I'm your friend, trust me.
>>73901654
>Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill Nigger shill nigger shill
This is the average Drumpf supporter.
>>73901609
You know it was only after the war started that he said he was against it right? Before it, he said it was for
>>73903356
You pay more in taxes richer you are, so tax breaks would give the rich more money back. As long he closes loopholes in the tax code, the tax break could be a good thing.
>>73903836
Keep going mate.
>>73900967
He doesn't not believe in climate change, he doubts the magnitude of which climate change is the direct result of industry and other man made CO2 emittive sources. There is reasonable evidence to suggest that a change in solar dynamics is responsible for the warming of earth as opposed to the general narrative that it is down to the greenhouse gas effect.
People don't doubt climate change, they doubt that man is responsible.
>>73903249
what the us needs is better money management. doesnt the military have a shitton of vehicles they never use? plus the navy is much bigger than what it needs to be
>>73901609
This.
I can only hope her shills are paid equally.
Hell, i hope she pays for every thread post, making this post a small money drain for a horrible shill
>>73900967
>Browse /pol/ and Trump General regularly.
>Have never seen anyone refer to Trump as moderate.
Shoo shoo Hilary goblin.
>>73904056
You've convinced me.
Now I'm voting Trump
>>73904097
>You pay more in taxes richer you are,
Tax loopholes and they are still taking in millions every year. Not really far.
We need a progressive taxation system. That means massive taxation on the 1%. Also I don't think the world should have billionaires. I think there should be a cap on how much money you can own.
>>73904194
So people doubt it. Science doesn't
>>73904224
>Have never seen anyone refer to Trump as moderate.
He's a far right wing neo-nazi
Fuck him.
>>73904280
Many scientists do
Because as a mindless sheep I do what /pol/ tells me and believe what I see here.
MAGA
What are you? Voting for Shillary? Feel the Bern.
>>73903539
He'll probably end up putting in 3-4 judges. No way RBG lives much longer, she's like 150 now. And old Clarence is on his way out too.
>>73904388
Not really. And if it wasn't for big energy funding, it probably be closer to 100% of scientists instead of like 97% or whatever it is now
>>73901318
>washingtonpost
HAHA
HAHAHAH
oh man, meme on ,brother.
>>73904325
>Carl detected
>>73904088
Im going to need some sauces for that
>>73904665
IT'S A LINK SHOWING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY WORLD VIEW
BETTER GREEN TEXT IT AND LAUGH
>>73904725
Already posted anon
>>73904617
No matter what percentage of scientists deny humanities effect on climate change, there are many, many intelligent individuals that challenge it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
>>73904617
The study that says 97% of scientists believe in climate change was very deceptive. They removed dissenters from the total.
>>73904829
Water boarding is not pro war
>>73904868
>many many
Saying it like that makes it seem like there's a significant number
>>73904868
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
Wonder how much time Exxon Mobile spent creating this page on wikia?
>>73905102
Howard stern 2002 interview. The picture he posted was unrelated
>>73900967
>doesn't believe in climate change
Get the fuck off of my pol, red it
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>>73904665
If you have sources that are more reliable than mine, then by all means you'll have no trouble listing them here.
>>73903387
Sure, patriotism is good. I'm patriotic, I love the United States because it's a great country, better than most if not all currently.
>>73903249
Taxes are what fund the government budget currently. That's how taxes work. We need to reduce spending on aspects such as defense spending ,yes, but cutting entitlements? Our entitlements are nowhere near as generous as countries in Europe so... what's your argument there exactly?
I do agree the military is important, but we don't need to spend as much on it as we do now and can afford to have some redistribution of spending elsewhere and/or cutting certain amounts of spending.
>>73900967
He's shit, Hillary is shit.
I hope all burgers burn in hell
>>73905465
>my source is from a subsidized news organization which is know for lying
>unless you find a source which disproves my claim, then my claim is right because this false source said so
+0.02
>>73900967
Everything you listed is moderate. The overton window has been shifted so far to the left that anything not extreme far-left is seen as right wing extremism. Don't fall for it.
>>73905542
I don't think you're qualified to criticize the United States due to how terribly your country is doing now.
>>73905654
>Everything you listed is moderate.
>I don't know what a moderate is.
Oosh
2/10
>>73905606
>subsidized news organization which is know for lying
Proof? Still waiting for it.
>unless you find a source which disproves my claim, then my claim is right because this false source said so
I never said my claim is right, I just provided a source to back up my claim. Making a counter-argument needs evidence to back up your refuting claim. Learn how to debate properly.
>>73905755
Nobody knows what moderate is anymore, that's been the case for a long fucking time. Today's "moderate" would be fringe lunacy by the standards of almost all of human history.
>>73904665
>we can totally handle disagreements
>essjaydubyas are such pussies
>trump is god, he can do no wrong
Your kind are just as bad as the delusional regressives who protest Trump rallies with the only argument that he's "rayciss."
Hope the moderates will remedy this cancer pendulum.
>thinks wages are to high
Making shit up?
He supports a minimum wage rise and would most likely increase taxes(everyone claims they won't to cut taxes).
I don't know who's worse the stormfags or libtards who have both not worked out the fact that he's a liberal.
>>73906425
>Making shit up?
Look who's talking bong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ-o1T6F5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ-o1T6F5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ-o1T6F5Y
Trump will bring back Jim Crow if elected.
>>73906515
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/08/trump-who-once-opposed-minimum-wage-hike-says-he-would-like-to-see-an-increase/
>>73906425
I think this differs:
>http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/28/news/economy/trump-wages/
In the video he says "wages are too high"
Although there are a bunch of other sources that say he's all for increasing wages and others that say he wants to decrease them, so it's all confusing and convoluted.
>>73906691
I thought washington post was a
>subsidized news organization known for lying
according to
>>73905606
But as long as it supports trump, its ok?
Hypocrisy.
>>73906691
>he says something new; therefore we should believe him
>>73906897
>But as long as it supports trump, its ok? Hypocrisy.
Can you read?
>I don't know who's worse the stormfags or libtards who have both not worked out the fact that he's a liberal.
>>73903356
>people that pay 90% of all taxes get a tax break
>people that pay 0% of all taxes get a tax break too
What's it like being a kike?
>>73900967
He didn't support the Iraq war, and he wants lower taxes for everyone by a lot. You're an idiot
>>73907064
He's been a libtards his whole life.
How slow are you people?
>>73900967
>massive tax cuts
Trump supports a progressive tax and eliminating tax loopholes, dumbshit.
>>73907347
He's constantly flip-flopped on so many issues, how can you trust the man to keep his word on many things?
Like recently he backpedaled on the call for a muslim ban by saying it was only a "suggestion"
>http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban/index.html
>>73907598
How much do you get paid per post?
>>73907456
>Trump supports a progressive tax and eliminating tax loopholes, dumbshit.
BULLSHIT
Do I have to keep posting this till you get it?
>>73907688
Wow I disagree with Trump, the """"God Emperor""""! I must be paid off!
I don't think you understand rational thinking or what a debate is.
>>73907688
>How much do you get paid per post?
How much do you TRUMPTARDS get paid to post here?
>>73907598
>how can you trust the man
I don't. He's a Clinton puppet.
>>73901654
Compelling argumentation.
>>73905689
I hope my country burn in hell too, it's just a flag and i don't take nacionality
>>73903249
>the government will always spend whatever it collects plus a little extra
The budget was balanced in 1999
>>73901289
>Equating supporting water boarding to pro-Iraq war stance
You should consider suicide
>>73908650
Amazing argument dude. Tell someone to off themselves without providing a good argument of your own. You people truly are hopeless.
>>73900967
>doesn't believe in climate change
No shit. He's fucking 70. If someone tells you you're going to die tomorrow every day for the rest of your life, you're going to think you'll live forever. He's been bombarded with this idea his entire life and we only have 1-2*C to prove it. As most people get older they tend to doubt the validity of global warming because the scale of the sample size is so insignificant compared to the Earth's existence that one or two cold years can almost be considered breaking the trend. Not only that, but most people don't realize the consequences 1-2*C means on a global level, but instead think that it means they'll wear one less layer come winter and turn the A/C up a bit come summer.
Not saying I agree with him, but as I've grown older I've stopped using "S/he does/n't believe in global warming" as a reason for supporting a candidate. Especially considering the United States legislative branch has essentially blocked any world-wide negotiations to lower emissions, regardless of the president's stance; why does it matter if our presidential candidate cares? Just so we can get our hopes up before it gets blocked? It's fallen so far out of the hot button issue in the last years because barring any technological advances we cannot undo the damage that has been done; no amount of camaraderie among humans will solve the issue. Whether it's real or not, the results will, again, be passed along to those that inherit the Earth.
>>73908650
You're the one that keeps citing the Howard Stern interview without actually providing a link, burden of proof is on you Shillfag
>>73908650
>You should consider suicide
Dude he said in 2002 in the Howard Stern show he supported the Iraq War you stupid faggot.
>>73909446
>You're the one that keeps citing the Howard Stern interview without actually providing a link, burden of proof is on you Shillfag
Yup your a trumpfag alright. Called google faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir-bExYRnkE
>>73908931
You take leaps farther than anyone who believes in the Zionist conspiracy.
Kill yourself faggot.
>>73908931
>he does this
>no he doesn't, I'll need sauce
>here you go
>those two things don't go together, go kys
>haha! why can't you have a debate!? I WIN
/b/ sounds nicer at this time of the year.
>>73909741
I don't think you're capable of understanding what rational thought it. You just spew out ad hominems to fit your rhetoric. If anyone should be considering suicide, it's you.
>>73900967
the neocohens are flipping their shit about him winning the party.
the minimum wage is too high in many cases. he was making reference to that, and wages in general in the context of trade
so let's revise that:
>massive tax cuts for him and his billionaire buddies
>opposes net neutrality
>wants to gut the EPA
>doesn't believe in climate change
>thinks minimum wages are too high
>wants to repeal Obamacare
>supports drones, opposes Iran deal
>absolutely based
>>73909763
>go kys is a legitimate argument
You're fucking retarded then.
>>73909937
go read what the green text said.
>>73900967
Because the left has moved the goal posts, for so many years, that he seems extreme to fanatics.
This is only the beginning.
