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As being as objective as possible, what would you say is the greatest civilization or country in human history and why?
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>>73878596
Egypt, they build the pyramids n shit.
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The Roman Republic
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Where? Anywhere in pic related. When? right now. So yea pretty much modern western civilisation

And before that obviously European civilisation, from Rome through to the colonization of Americas.
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>>73878596
Spain because of how they domesticated the horse and invented gunpowder and spread Catholic values.
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>>73878596
Is OP that huge Hittite hill-fort stronghold fortress of solitude?
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>>73879678
Isn't that the prison in Mexico that El Chapo escaped from?
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Byzantine. No doubt about it
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Western civilization contributed the most to humanity.
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>>73878596
Abos
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Israel because God.
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>>73879551
>Eastern Europe border
>heavily guarded border zone
Yes goy, literally the same as the DMZ.

And I can think of arguments as to why China or Japan or even the ancient middle east could have spawned the greatest civilization.
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British Empire in 1800s
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>>73878596
Rome circa 100 AD


If Rome never fell we would have colonies on Pluto by now
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>>73879939
this desu, or roman republic
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As much as it pains me to say it, being Irish and all, I'd go with the British Empire.
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>>73878596
Poland

Took what's best from Rome

Took what's best from Greece

Took what's best from christianity

Rejected modern philosophy
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>>73879988
Rome never fell. It shifted into a theocracy. Where it continues on to this very day. There's even an Eastern empire that survives.
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>>73880183
>Irish

>Has British flag
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>>73879551
you mean through to ww2, right?
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>>73878596
Spain, other colonyfags just piggybacked off of their success.
I guess the anglos won in the end, though. Where did everything go so wrong for them?
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>>73879988
Rome fell apart thanks to corrupt politicians.

But of course Americans would never think of that.
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American Empire. Now shut up and eat your burger.
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I admire the mesopotamians
if wasn't for them western civilization wouldn't have started
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>>73880210
Based. But I'll still say the Roman Empire.
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>>73879678
Sumerian ziggurat
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>>73880237

Part of Ireland is in Britain.

Its a hugely complicated concept so i wont go into the schematics.


We are not the greatest civilisation. Although the industrial revolution is one of the greatest achievements which we started and led.
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>>73880237
>I'm a spastic yank that doesn't know about Northern Ireland
The worst thing the Brits ever did was birth you lot. And they fucking genocided my country.
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>>73878596
Chinese, obviously.
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>>73878596
The British because they spread some of the best values of humanity the furthest

t. Maori
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Egypt
Babylon
Greco-Rome
British empire
American empire
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>>73878596
Probably Atlantis, that's why G-d destroyed it
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The British Empire was the peak of human civilisation
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>>73878596
The Krauts, what they did in a few decades and space magic.
The krauts were right all along.
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Roman Republic/Empire
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>>73880349
Roman Empire is the reason why Rome fell, because of excessive culture mixing
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>>73878596
greeks cause science, philosophy, architecture and so on

>>73880349
>>73880349
romans were thieving murdering shekel loving backstabbing cunts - something like germans were and americunts turned into
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The Keltic civilisations. I'm serious.
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>>73880473

America does not have an empire. You have a sphere of influence but have never actually had an empire.
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>>73880530
Rome fell because of it's size (logistic issues of governance) and huge influx of foreign migration.

Culture mixing was a strength because they managed to take the best out of every other culture they conquered.
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>>73880416
The brits didn't genocide Ireland, they genocided Scotland.
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>>73880663
Says who?
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>>73880473

If America has an empire then it's not what I'd call a "great civilisation of history". Literally the number one purveyor of degeneracy world wide
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>>73880416
You're dumb, do you know how man Irish and Scottish people traveled to the new world as well?
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>>73880739

Well for a start wikipedia does not even have an article on it.

Not disputing the level of americas power. Just you dont have an empire.
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>>73880703
No. Its Roman culture became less homogenous because of the amount of foreigners
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>>73878596
None.
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>>73880183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sGFN_2GmPE
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Atlantis
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>>73880709
I wish they'd genocided you.
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>>73880183
Why does your country get two fucking different names, Britain AND England? Make up your fucking minds on what you want to be called already.

Britain/England is so snowflake.
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>>73878596
I think the objectively right answer to this question is the Roman Empire.
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>>73880530
Roman culture was homogenizing as fuck though, they took men from every race and creed and made them Roman to the core in a single generation. This wasn't modern 'multiculturalism' no matter how leftist historical revisionists try to paint it as such. If you lived in Roman territory, you lived by Roman law.

By the 5th century the Roman Army was mainly non-Roman by race yet their discipline and martial ability was as vaunted as ever despite being underfunded and overstretched far more than any 1st century Legion. If they'd relied only on ethnic Romans, they'd have been fucked, by that time most ethnic Romans were rich, soft and too involved in politics to be interested in service, Roman men cut off their thumbs rather than serve in the Legions.

The Roman Empire was killed by corruption, civil war and weak leaders, and even then it proved resilient enough as a society to limp on for centuries after losing it's preeminence.
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>>73880381
Say what you want about religion, but humans have built some amazing shit because of it.

Also Rome and China.
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>>73880845
>ur dumb
Still wish they'd genocided you.
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>>73878596
USA 1980 - 9/10/2011
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>>73880739
no wikipedia article therefore no empire. sorry burger such is life
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>>73879551
This picture is so dumb.
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>>73880874
Don't be silly. We have hundreds of military bases all over the world, including your country.

We also have numerous colonies, Puerto Rico, american Samoa, etc.

We used to have Panama and Cuba too, but decided to give them away for some fucking reason.
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China probably.

Western empires are flashes in the pan compared to then.
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>you will die before realistic virtual reality simulations of old civilizations are possible
I truly envy my future historian bros.
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>>73880709
Daily reminder that the Scots essentially invited the Edward to come rule Scotland prior to the (almost entirely fictional) events of Braveheart because they were tired of their constant civil wars and petty assassinations and wanted a strong king to sort shit out for them, then got upset when they realised he wasn't just going to do all the hard work of sorting their shitty country out and then fuck off south again.

Edward I 'Hammer of the Scots' of England did nothing wrong.
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>>73880254
I thought it was hyperinflation, mismanagement of territory and money.
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>>73881233
9/11 didn't change America THAT drastically you pleb.
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>>73881314
>Mad br cuz you aren't included
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>>73878596
ziggurats are God tier.
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>>73881450
He didn't even mention 9/11. He mentioned its 10th anniversary for some reason.
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>>73881233
What happened on the 9th of October 2011?
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>>73878596
Vikings - just because they were tough enough to dare cross the atlantic to Iceland and Greenland in small boats.
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The British Empire
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>>73878596
Greece
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>>73878596
America 1915 to 1955
The wars and the american dream pushed the brightest people from around the world to travel to the new world,
and their culminated efforts allowed america to rise as a great nation and created the intellectual environment for the most academic progress ever felt in history. It is a testament not just to american greatness (for creating the environment and society where the human mind could flourisb the most readily while other countries could not, due to the war), but western and white greatness
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Everyone telling "Rom" is just shows how uneducated they are about WORLD history, or rather - how Europe centured education is in western world, for which purposes rest of the world might have not existed until colonial age.

Rom`s only achievement is creating somewhat lasting empire. Even Alexandr of Makedon conquered more lands than Roman Empire had. While the roman culture was important for europe and development of western civilization - during roman time it was actually quite stale for longest periods - rapid development in begining, than barely any for centuries. Most of science and culture were appropriated from Helenic culture - which is by far more important and culturally impactful civilization, than Rom itself: which merely emulated it on large part.

2000 years before rom there already were first Chinese dynasties, and 200bd-400ad, a life time of Roman Empire - china was MUCH more advanced civilization: both in terms of culture, litteracy, trade, military science and tech. Litterally hundreds of years ahead of Europe in some aspects

About 400AD both Rom and China pretty much fell apart. Golden Age of China came later though 600-900 AD, while Europe was in its Dark Ages.

Until pretty much 15th century, China was by far the most advanced civilization, also with its share of constant troubles (also Europe at time had it even worse at times). At colonial age the tide turned, and western world won itself advantage by exploiting the resources and population of colonies rest of the world still cant catch up, since it allowed first entrance to Industrial age later, and thus big leap in technology - resulting in currently west being dominant.
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>>73878596

Ramsey I know you are in here you neck beard
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>>73879988
Lol no, Rome fell because of degeneracy
we would be sucking each others dicks
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Sumner Empire

>cities
>agriculture

Kick started humanity off from being hunter/gathers
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>>73881675
DVD-ROM
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>>73881675
'rom is fall'

'no'
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>>73881675
>rom
but nice ivan
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>>73881675
>Alexandrovski conquered more lands than CD rom
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>>73881666
You forgot when Greece took Iceland
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>>73878596
The British Empire
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>>73881666
Don't you mean the Ottoman Empire/ Turkey?
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>>73881768
Its Imperium Romanum, not Romenum. Even city name is Roma.
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>>73881675
you're both triggering me with the "alexandrovski" shit

>>73881904
>american education
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>>73881200
>This wasn't modern 'multiculturalism' no matter how leftist historical revisionists try to paint it as such. If you lived in Roman territory, you lived by Roman law.
This. Integration and assimilation.
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>>73878596
the American empire from the east coast of north America with muskets and horses to the moon in spaceships within 200 years something that has never been done in the history of man . Francis Bacon said it was going to be the new Atlantis in the 1520s he was right .
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>>73881675
China was a clusterfuck of warring dynasties, and while they were fairly well off technologically they were and still are irrelevant in the stage of human progress
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>>73879551
Thailand, Taiwan and even Vietnam want in on this, this isn't a "no entry" club of whites only, you can earn your way in, Korea and Japan show that.

Why should we feel guilt for our ancestor's success?
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>>73881675
>Le China was more advanced that Rome meme

Han China a shit.

Fancy pottery and fabrics =/= Civilisational greatness. It was more advanced in some areas but not any that count as an 'achievement'.

Rome at it's height build structures that would have baffled Chinese architects, the Chinese army was conscription based for most of it's 'golden age' and didn't have seige engines or drills anywhere near as advanced as Romes.

The Eastern Roman legal system has become inspiration for modern legal systems the world over, not the fucking Chinese one.

It also administered a smaller population than Rome and no Chinese city ever rivalled Rome or Constantinople at their heights.

You're just parroting something 'Muh Diversity' idiots like to claims so they can feel smugly superior over others because THEY aren't afflicted by horrible, white cishet Eurocentrism.
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Depends on how you mesure it

if you think that civilization that ruled longest - then ofc Egypt have no competitors - 5000 years where on second place is Roman with only about 1000 years of rule.

if you think greatness is mesured with number of accomplishments, then modern civilization ofc

if you count by overwinning against all odds, then ancient greek must be - winning with few thousands army against nearly million persian army or russian states during 1200-1300 winning against Golden Horde
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objectively china, subjectively christian europe
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ITT romeboos general
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>>73882071
learn chinese history dumb white dog
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>>73878596
Confederate States of America, 1862
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Chukchi
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>>73882024

>guy says China was the most advanced until 15th century
>you post a picture that is about advancement after 1400.

Well done retard.
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>>73878596
The United States, pre Civil War.

We were on our way to having almost no government. Then we had a Civil War followed by 2 world wars that let the government expand its power infinitely.

We almost did it lads, maybe the next great civ will finally achieve a stateless society
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>>73882123
>Egypt have no competitors - 5000 years where on second place is Roman with only about 1000 years of rule.

"Egypt" was many different civilizations, not one civilization.
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>>73880381
Babylonian Ziggurat. There are no still standing temples or buildings left behind by the Sumerians or Akkadians.
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>>73882338
never the less, the entity of the state and nation remained the same through out all that time
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>>73879866
Intredasting... they did give us the stick. Where would we be without sticks? Checkmate racists!
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>>73882261
>Being this mad over a picture
Why don't you enlighten us with a graph of the same type, Im sure it will change the percentages much.
Stop trying to defend your eastern blood so much, accept your european genes as superior, cuck, or go back to sucking ahmeds dick
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>>73882123
Depends on whether Ptolemai was egyptian and byzantium was roman
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Ottoman Empire
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>>73881539
9/11 happened on September eleventh not September tenth you peasant
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>>73881675
>muh "Dark Ages"
>muh "Europe centured education" - as if it's our fault that niggers et al. couldn't even write down their own history
>muh "China was much more influental than Europe" meme - you say that in a non-Chinese language, using a non-Chinese computer, on the non-Chinese internet
>muh "Europe only got ahead due to colonization" meme - completely disregarding the exhorbitant costs that came with it and the fact that the Arabs (to name only one example) also regularly plundered Africa, yet didn't invent or contribute shit compared to Europe
And you dare to call other people uneducated about history.
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>>73879551
There world income would even be higher if you'd exclude Greece
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Japan.
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Definitely Canada
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>>73882461
>the entity of the state and nation
no, it really didn't. only the region stayed the same due to the Nile
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>>73881675
t. Zhui Hui
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>>73878596
This.

>Oldest country in the world.
>Oldest continuous country in the world.
>Oldest Empire in the world.
>Longest written history in the world.
>Oldest calendar in the world (solar or otherwise).
>Invented bureaucracy.
>Invented sailing.
>Invented paper (papyrus).
>Invented swords.
>Independently invented writing.
>Built mega structures at time most of the world hadn't even exited the stone age
>Had 2 of the 7 wonders of the ancient world.
>Has the only surviving wonder of the world.
>Longest record holder of the tallest man-mad structure.
>Has the 2nd oldest, still operating, university in the world.
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>>73882906
t. ooga booga barbarian
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>>73883183
and now you're niggers
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>>73883183
>he thinks modern day egypt is the same as ancient egypt
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>>73883183
>Invented paper (papyrus).
Papyrus is not paper
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>>73878596
Finland, you'll see why. Just wait
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>>73879939
rothschild empire* i always laugh when faggots defend it
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>>73878596
Sumeria. They did after all give us the foundation on which the Judeo-Christian belief systems were built.
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>>73883183
WE
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>>73882844
Hope you die in real life for all this shitposting tbqh.
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>>73883251
>pay denbts
and what are you greece?
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>>73879551
>Australias Norhtern Approach
Someone have a stroke while creating this?
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>>73881545
Your mom gave me bad head
>never forget
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>>73883267
Is england the same as the british empire?

>>73883312
close enough, if you don't want to get technical.

>>73883401
ACTUAL "WE".
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>>73883421
30% of population have turk genes or albanian

that's all
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Not even a question.
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>>73881170
>American education

Britain means the whole kingdom inclusing wales, scotland etc.
England means only the area of England on the main island
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>>73883183
>continuous
you have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with ancient egypt.
ever wonder why so many ancient egyptian artifacts are all over the western world?
bc you were to stupid and disinterested to dig them up.
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>>73878596
USA
S
A
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>>73883533
is italy the same as rome?
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>>73879551
Australia want to live in the Western world but they are asian and stay in asian.
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>>73881671
Most of those people are European, attending a European conference.
What you say isn't necessarily wrong, but your picture is irrelevant.
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>>73883185

We will learn to respect you as soon as your nation pays your debts without bitching around.
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>>73878596
Australia
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>>73879456
^ this is the only correct answer.
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Africa. They wuz kingz & ancient aliens
They invented everything the white man stole
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>>73879585
God bless the US educational system.
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>>73878596
The World would be better if he won...
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Russia or England.
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>everybody itt is wrong
the one and only
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>>73878596
Rome.

Republic or Empire. Before the Christianity. We are still influenced by them to this day.
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>>73884094
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>>73884094
>>73884132
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>>73884094
>>73884132

I love Russia but we certanly neve impacted the world so much as to be called the greatest civilization. British on the other hand
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>>73883609
No, because tourism wasn't a thing until the 19th century, what good are ancient artefacts for the daily life of an average citizen of the middle ages?

Also, Christianity almost destroyed everything about the native Egyptian culture, same as it did in Europe.

And despite that we still have shitloads to do with ancient Egypt, from our borders to our DNA..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_el-Nessim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Arabic#Coptic_substratum
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.1330360603/abstract;jsessionid=4F50C426C2E545AF48BCA2A1D2E8EC37.f04t02
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>>73878596
Lechina Empire you motherfu****
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Um, haha? Canada?

It's 2016 wtf so hard about it?
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America post emperor trump.
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>>73884167
Thank you, brother.
By the way, Russia is considered to be the successor of the Byzantine Empire (as in religion, and the dynasty, the last Byzantine emperor's daughter became the wife of russian ring).
So our friendship is historically conditioned.
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>>73884132
Most of this land is worth nothing
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>>73878596
The British Empire, because it brought modernity and civilisation right across the planet.
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>>73884338
Jesus christ russians are fucking retarded
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>>73884211
>we certanly neve impacted the world so much as to be called the greatest civilization
Give it time.

>>73884345
>The largest oil and mineral reserves in the world are worth nothing
Stay salty, Mustafa.
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>>73883682
Sort of, but modern Egypt still has a lot more to do with dynastic Egypt, than modern Italy does with Rome.
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>>73883183
The dynastic period in Egypt started in 3100 B.C.

By 3600 B.C., Sumer had invented the wheel, writing, the sail boat, agricultural processes such as irrigation, and the concept of the city.

And a lot of the things you listed.

All roads lead to Sumer.
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the united states of america
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>>73884211
Hmm, how is measured the impact on the world? Russia is very much influenced to the political history of Europe and many Asian countries.
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USA Objectively. Has a great amount of rights for its citizens and has the greatest military force, and cultural influence, more than any other nation or empire before us or around today.
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>tfw born just in time to double-rape turkey with your russian bros
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>>73879585
China invented gunpowder, jeenyus.
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>>73883620
You're kidding yourself, Murica conquered nothing, even small time potatoes like Vietnam expelled you from their lands in no time.
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>>73884426
t. alberto barbossa
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>>73884426
Don't hurt us :(
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>>73881450
If you don't think everything changed after that day. Reevaluate.
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>>73883741
Yeah, it was more for demonstrative porpuses than an exact example of what I posted, though a fair ammount of those scientists did migrate to the US some time in their lives
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>>73884491
Sumer wasn't a country (the concept of countries itself is Egyptian). and yes, Egypt was late to the wheel, but it did invent sailing.
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>>73884578
Don't get so triggered Ivan
If you pop an arterie and die, who will take care of your housed refugees?
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>>73880182
kek... sounds like modern America
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>>73881170
Britain = England, Scotland + Wales
England = England
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>>73884458
Are we talking about empires or today? It was cold and only good for a litle defense time.
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>>73884746
shut up alboriginal
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>>73878596
Uganda
>cuz we wuz kangz n shieeeeet
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I think that now it is impossible to determine who influenced to the world more than other, because too many different factors and circumstances.
I think if we talk generalized, it will be the main European countries (England, France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Italy, Greece, Poland) and some Asian (Mongolia, China, Japan).
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The united States. We have cheeseburgers on the cheap and a lot of high tech weapons to blow up people we don't like
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>>73878596

Ancient Greece, the mother of Western Civilisation. Here are some reasons why:

* Science has its origins in Ancient Greece via Thales of Miletus, who was the first person in known human history to claim natural causes for phenomena (as opposed to supernatural causes, for example because of 'gods').

* Major mathematical principles originated from Ancient Greece via Pythagoras, Diophantus of Alexandria (the father of algebra) and Euclid (the father of geometry).

* Ancient Greek colonialism paved the way for Ancient Roman colonialism, which paved the way for European colonialism in the 16th century to the mid-20th century. This allowed aspects of Western Civilisation to spread to every part of this planet and Western Civilisation originates from Ancient Greece.

* The Latin script is the most widely used script in the world today and the mother of the Latin script is the Greek script.

* History was born in Ancient Greece via Herodotus.

* Democracy comes from Ancient Greece and, back then, democracy was not the pleb-tier, so-called 'representative' bullshit we have today. The Ancient Greeks practised direct democracy because their cities usually only had a few thousand people and only adult males were considered 'citizens', so pretty much everyone important had a say.

* Western philosophy, Western literature, the field of medicine, trial by jury and equality under the law all have their origin in Ancient Greece.

* Anaximander came up with a rudimentary theory of evolution millennia before Darwin was even born.

* Many words in European languages (like English, for example) are derived from the Greek language.
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>>73885068
thanks colony
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>>73883185
>greek mad at germany for being poor
Greeks really are the niggers of europe
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>>73885068
Quality post.

I wish Greece had retained any of that glory.
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>>73881170

The name is UK. You can colloquially call it Britain. Loyalist Irishmen won't mind.

But don't mix up England with Britain, because British nations have fought each other. And by that I only mean England and Scotland.
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>>73884984
WE
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>>73880231
Leichentstein is the continuation of the roman empire isn't it?

>never conquered
>ruling monarchy
>descended from romans
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>>73885068
>History was born in Ancient Greece via Herodotus.
>implying Herodotus wasn't Anatolian
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America, fucking faggots.
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>>73885068
Agree.
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>>73885259
The UK is not Britain.

The UK is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
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>>73885192
>being this butthurt and calling me mad to hide it
top keks

>>73885307
anatolians are greeks you fuckwit

>>73885204
Once we get rid of socialists and any type of marxist ideology from here we'll be great again
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>>73885270
Natsmen, please go.
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Victorian Britain without any doubt or hesitation.
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>>73878596
Atlantis
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>>73885307

>Implying that Anatolia wasn't within Ancient Greece's sphere of influence back in those days
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>>73885407
Apparently pointing out a fact is being butthurt.

Greeks are always mad at the Germans for their shitty economy. I just thought it was funny that you were perpetuating the stereotype.
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>>73884560
They tried to eat it to gain immortality.
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>>73885476
Once upon a time...

(also thats an excellent film)
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Germanics.
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>>73885422
WUZ
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>>73884980
the suppressed truth they don't want you to know
stay woke
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>>73885407
I would love to see you regain your glory!
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>>73885509
>shitty economy
45th in the world desu

>>73885476
>implying that they weren't straight up greeks
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>>73878596
There were certainly other empires that were larger, and conquests more magnificiant, but to the extent that life during Pax Romana was probably the best time in pre-modern history to be alive for the common man, I think it's definitely possible to say that the Roman Empire was the greatest.
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>>73885740
>45th in the world
No-one brags about coming 45th in a race you fucking idiot
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>>73878596
the republic of texas, still in its infancy
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>>73885635
It's French.
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>>73883463
and they say yanks can't bant
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>>73885703
>>73885760
>invaded whole of europe

>>73885805
You're the only idiot here, what did you expect a minor socialist country in the balkans to be?
Did you expect us to surpass the US or some shit?
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>>73885703
>invaded whole of europe
>destroyed every hope of nationalism ever rising again
>killed more whites than anyone at that time
>"yay saviors of the white race'
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>>73878596
I dunno.


Maybe sumerians because they Invented the concept of civilization
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>>73885934
Making a shit ton of ships doesn't make great, ask cartage
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>>73885981
I agree but you're obviously just mad because you still don't wanna pay denbts
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1. China
2. Roman Empire
3. Britain

I say Britain because of the science contributions alone which you guys have to admit are pretty damn impressive for our little rainy island.
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>>73885830

Franks are Germanic.
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Let's just agree that a truly great civilization was Sumer, but they left us.
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China, their empire yas never failed or fallen, they're still going strong and have created great things like gunpowder and noodles. Also they did what we can't and never will, they built a wall.
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https://youtu.be/W4tYDEDOsLw
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>>73886218
ok roach
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Wish we had some alien race or something new to compare ourselves to already though
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Czech Republic

A predominantly Christian country who loves beer, burgers and were number one in star of david transportation.
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>>73886212
Germanic tribe. And then they became part of the French ethnic group and French civilization. The Germans have formed on the basis of other Germanic tribes on the edge of France (i respect german civ. too).
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>>73879551

I think there's a few new fences in Eastern Europe you're missing there
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>>73886218
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>>73885830
Pardon?

>>73886065
I'm not sure whether I can fault you for a dumb statement like this. For you didn't choose to be born subhuman in a turdworld and it's equally turdworld education.
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The upcoming new chinese empire. Eastern cultures don't have this twisted habitus of individualism that destroys all western civs.
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>>73886505
>Pardon?
Aachen castle it's a french heritage i mean.
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Western civilisation, More specifically the greco roman civilisation.
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https://youtu.be/ZJHBBH9gh2Y

Susato
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>>73885204
you and me both dear burger
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>>73884120
>couldn't even cross the channel
>couldn't even reach Moscow
>bankrupt
>tears up central Europe in an autistic rage
>proceeds to get fucked from both sides

wew
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Its so dissapointing to see that every single one of you is wrong. Its obviously the Mongol Empire. They had the largest empire in the history of man kind, and repurcussions are still seen today, look at the finns.
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>>73883023
Correct.
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>>73878596
Britain
>Richest country in the world at the time
>Strongest navy (more powerful than the next strongest 2 combined)
>One of the successful armies ever (only lost a single military campaign under Queen Victoria)
>Largest population (458 million)
>Largest landmass of all time (33,670,000 sq km)
>Was actually capable of forming successful colonies (USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand)
>Never lost a world war
>Never lost a world war twice in a row
>Most disastrous defeat in it's military history was against itself (American revolution)
>Began the industrial revolution
>Founded modern free market economics (Adam Smith)
>Founded modern physics (Isaac Newton)
>Founded modern geology (James Hutton)
>Founded modern chemistry (James boyle)
>Invented almost every noteworthy thing you can think of
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>>73886623
That's debatable, Franks doesn't equal French. And it's origins lie tied to the Holy Roman Empire. Not to speak of the later Baroque expansions.
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>>73880182
Retweeted.
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>>73886762
Tee-hee, I love you Aussies

All the spider venom over the decades have evolved your brains into giving the bantz
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>>73886739
>crossing the channel
>a big deal
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>>73886875
kek
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>>73880471
This. They managed to turn a cannibal island into a country with the highest living standard in the world in less than two centuries. They turned a jungle of niggers into the breadbasket of Africa. They turned fucking India into the crown jewel of their world spanning empire.
Which is why it's so sad seeing them kill themselves like this.
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>>73880663
>sphere of influence
Yes, over the entire globe.
America is beyond an empire.
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>>73884338
If this was true you would've liberated Constantinople ages ago.
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>>73886913
>Get invited to Britain
>Brag for centuries to come because you made it there
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>>73886806
Of course, I was referring only the Karl's castle. The cathedral itself is already undeniable is German heritage.
As for the French, the Franks became the nucleus of the French ethnic group. And the French, as an ethnic group was formed in the Frankish kingdom as their own state.
Late Frankish kings were fully romanized.
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>>73887022
kick them out of nato you fag
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>>73886801
This, it might be a shithole now, but Great Britain used to be a power to rival Rome
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>>73887172
We're working on it
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>>73886623
Aachen? French?
No, nothing about Aachen is french. It's german and always has been.
Karl der Große made Aachen his residency.
He was never called Charles by his contemporaries. He was a germanic tribe leader (franks) called Karl.
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>>73887022
We tried to do it in 1914.
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>>73880303
American Hegemon. Pass the ketchup.
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>>73879551

>(C) The Wall
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