Anyone here not plan on having children? Or simply not have the urge to procreate? It just seems like a waste of time. Traditional family structure is over and divorce and child support are inevitable, its hard to find a good woman, children are expensive, time consuming, stressful, and make everything sticky, and I feel its cruel and selfish to force a non consenting sentient being into this world. Anyone feel this way? I dont hate kids I just dont want to have my own or have then around my personal belongings. Im actually plan on becoming a elementary school teacher because im a minority male and speak 4 languages so I am guaranteed a Job in my area (Long Island) where teachers earn on average $110,000 a year with bloated pension, health insurance, summers off, tenure etc. anyone else out there like me?
good goy
let the niggers and muslims inherit the world
wonder who your assets will be transferred when you die
>>73787083
>Im actually plan on becoming a elementary school teacher
You should take some spelling and punctuation lessons while you're there.
>>73787128
Your country has one of the lowest birthrates in the world.
>>73787569
I wrote this on my phone very quickly.
>>73787083
I don't want to have kids, or even sex.
I am one of the beautiful ones.
>>73787640
Na dude I still want sex and a loving wife just no kids.
>>73787083
35 with my wife for 11 years. Not really planning on kids. I enjoy working from home in a silent house.
>>73787083
i can't imagine taking care of a kid.
spending money on milk and diapers, education, health
haven't even gotten out of the basement yet.
anyway i only fear getting old and lonely and not having grandchildren to tell my stories to.
other than that.. im alright.
>>73787128
thanks to this I'm now a #mgtowmissile
>>73788026
I feel bad for you man. I love filipino people but holy shit you have insane pressure to have kids from insane catholic elders.
I'm child free but it's because no woman would want me
>>73787083
I must propagate to ensure the future of my people
>>73787128
I have news for you. whites can never win the procreation fight. whites are too intelligent to have 8 kids. only animals do that.
we already lost the fight. even asians can't compete with niggers and arab scum. it's over anon
>>73787083
Bullshit. Long Islander here. There are no teaching jobs on the island. They are cutting jobs and combining districts.
>>73787083
Children are great.
Anyone abstaining from reproduction either has nothing to positive to offer their offspring genetically or emotionally speaking, OR the opposite sex has never deemed them worthy enough to reproduce with.
ITT: pathetic faggots rationalize why women see them as unworthy.
>>73788099
lol not to mention "circumcision"
im alright. china will annex us and ill die in a sweatshop.
>>73788293
Unless you are minority male who speaks 4 languages and are planning on teaching elementary school. I am literally the unicorn.
>>73787083
All women want kids, ESPECIALLY the ones who say they don't, anon. Nokids is a male fantasy, but rest assured, sticking your dick in a nokids woman is sticking your dick in crazy.
Kids suck until they are about 5 or 6.
>>73788443
Hahahahah. I have always wanted to to go to Manila. Would they look down upon a Indian guy from America who speaks with a perfect midwestern accent.
You don't need children you have virtual currency, smartphones and electric cars.
>rubs hands together unconsciously
ITT: good goys
>>73787083
We have been trying for 8 months to have a kid with no success, she has been off the pill. We are not using anything to help. I fear I am shooting blanks which makes me a genetic dead end
>>73788615
>"good goys"
>>73787083
I have three. Having a dozen is the most patriotic thing White people can do.
>>73788683
>shit economy
>people work till 70
>no jobs for young people
>why ur birth rates so low Italy?
I'm planning on having kids anyway.
>>73788726
WTF is this jap shit?
>>73787083
>Hey, white people, you'll be happy if you don't reproduce.
>Sandler
Every time.
>>73787083
The world's already such a fucked place, why in the hell would you want to force your progeny to experience the inevitable slide into our self-made extinction event?
>>73788677
>>73788726
ffs japan
>>73788708
FUCK THE WALTONS. My parents used to play that all the fucking time. It's the worst part of every TV show ever created melted down and forged into one miserable, depressing program.
>>73787083
Trying to get the hell out of here before I do. Don't see much of a future on this island.
6 billion years of evolution and you kill it. Hope your brothers and sisters pass on the gene seed if you won't or your DNA is dead
>>73787083
>>elementary school teacher
>>makes over $100,000
Nigga a professor at a university with a Ph.D. doesn't even make near that
Fuck you and your 4 languages
You think you get a $25,000 bonus per language
>>73787589
>>73788683
m8 are you fucking retarded? Just because their countries may have seemingly low birth rates doesn't mean they're wrong to say not having children is bad
>>73787083
I dont plan to have any, but no by choice. I can't even get a gf, whats the chances of finding a woman that would see me as father material.
Damn these manlet genes.
>>73788802
The world has always been a fucked up place.
>>73789071
Isn't this the same artist who did a bunch harikiri porn stuff?
The "Why am I so depressed I don't understand I have everything I want" middle-age suicide lifestyle
While you free child argue about diapers and child tantrums, Muslims are having 4 to 8 kids per couple.
You deserve to disappear; and guess what? You will.
>>73788802
I feel a little selfish for not having kids.
If each of us represents an unbroken chain of reproduction back to the warm little pond or whatever (which is amazing if you think about it), who was I to say "Fuck it. Kids are noisy, expensive disappointments who will just grow to resent you."?
It's like I shit on the struggle of everyone who came before and ignored my sole reason for existence.
Have kids, white man.
>>73789148
Is that the phase where you blow all your money on holidays and other stupid expensive shit so your kids don't get anything after you die?
>>73789103
I remember seeing this exact thread with same pic posted everyday for a week or so some months ago. Hmm.
Considering the state of womanhood these days, anyone who gets married and has children is seriously not rational at all.
The cost-benefit ratio is insanely poor, and the likelihood is that the woman will literally rob you with the state's help.
>>73787083
Yes goy. Raising a child isn't the most fulfilling thing you will ever do in your life.
>>73789376
And in a few generations, your country will need to import a new tax base... and who knows what they'll be like... oh, wait...
My wife and I are pregnant. Couldn't be happier. Continuing a proud family legacy of pure white children with European ancestry
>you and your "wife's son" blah blah
>what's the bulls name ect ect
It had to be done with an IUI. And I literally had to watch my sperm go from cup to concentrator to vagina.
>>73789272
It must be the first task the JIDF gives to their interns
>>73789487
>My wife and I are pregnant
>>73787083
> most important function of your body
> waste of time
Good goyim
>>73789487
>My wife and I are pregnant
>>73787083
ITT why the white race is deing
>>73789538
ayy
>>73789474
>You should just accept potentially having your life destroyed just to fulfill some ethnonationalist romantic fantasy
Fuck off asshole. Go marry an American slut and get assfucked by her Jewish lawyers if you want to, but don't act like it's rational to do it.
I cannot imagine having kids, I fucking hate them and they're the hugest investment imaginable from a financial perspective. That said, I realize that it's killing the white race, which is why I believe every white man who doesn't have at least 3 kids should instead in his lifetime murder 3 shitskins. At least.
>>73787083
This is why the white race is dying and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
>>73789604
>deing
No.
That's why.
>>73787083
>>73789549
Do you think a woman can impregnate herself, idiot?
>>73789673
I see right through you, Shlomo.
>>73789705
ban this pedo
>>73789712
KEK
>>73789685
So which are you doing?
>>73789830
I plead the fifth.
>>73789768
>Just marry and have children go-I mean guy, surely you want to create some beautiful white babies, hehe, Mr. Cohen the lawyer here will make sure you have a foolproof prenup, just sign right here go-I mean guy, hehehehe
>>73789812
Yeah I think it was guro. Not really my bag so I don't look too far in to those things.
>>73789685
>should instead in his lifetime murder 3 shitskins
30 at minimum.
>>73789891
fuck off metakike
>>73789549
She always says "we're pregnant"
Is that right? I just assumed that was right
Is having a kid strategic to my plan of living in a small cabin in the woods, farming for my own food, generating my own power, in a world that's slowly crumbling?
>>73789960
It's some weird newspeak shit that's never really made any sense. SHE is pregnant. The both of you together are having a baby, but only one of you is pregnant.
I want to have kids u just kniw if i can afford it. Even with my well paying job having 2 kids and raising them where I live is extremely difficult
>>73788587
>Would they look down upon a Indian guy from America who speaks with a perfect midwestern accent.
yes. we're racists. only worship whiteys
you'd hear people say
"boom-buy" (bombay)
"five-six"
there are a lot of indians here.
most are in the money lending business.
>>73789891
>If you don't have any more white devil oppress... er, children, you can lay on a beach and know real happiness for the rest of your life. You can have it all. Just don't make any more of you.
Jewish tricks indeed.
>>73787083
>a minority male
>my area (Long Island)
Good, there are too many of you minorities as is. Teaching elementary school is a good way for you not to feel that emptiness in your life.
>>73788708
Agreed
Men who object to the notion of fatherhood are children at best. At least have a valid reason like a family history of mental illness or some sort of disability fuck. Even low iq is valid.
This is why whites are a dying race. This attitude of not having children because of financials, divorce, and time is a cancer that is being pushed upon the residents of the west. We will be replaced by droves of low iq shit skins that don't even think about these sorts of things because they do not have the capacity to do so.
Man the fuck up and uphold your duty to the western world. Make it work.
I have no desire to pass on my depression to somebody. I doubt I'll ever even be in a relationship again.
>>73790043
Probably wouldn't make a difference. Porn is porn as far as the mods are concerned. You could always post some Kijin Gahou. Might get more of a response.
I'm 5'8 so of course I'm not going to have children.
I'm happy, but it took a long time to get there due to my height and middling looks. I'm not going to put another human through that, it's unethical.
You should really only have kids in the Western world if pussy was insanely easy for you because of genetics. I can get girls now, but only after years of moving up the social ladder and perfecting my personality.
Not even sad about it, I'm going to have a great life, but the best of the best is not in my genes.
>>73789376
"The state of womanhood", lol get over yourself. Focus on your "state" and you can have your pick of the girls.
>>73790266
You know your children can be taller than you right?
>not having children to become an elementary school teacher
>>73789931
>>73790108
I don't get how you guys can be so stupid.
Watch this video and tell me if isn't true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXQf2f2Yxo
These are the kind of people that would just cram their traumatized children in daycare so they can file papers for eight hours a day
>le "no children? MUST BE DA JOOOOOOOS!" meme
>le "continue the white race" meme (your few kids matters about as much as one grain of sand on the west coast)
>idiots don't understand da joos want you to have kids to create another consumer
>another college debt slave
>fucking idiots dont understand having children is MORALLY WRONG and every single instance of pain in your kid's life is your fault
>idiots don't understand that having children is literally, unironically fucking worse than rape or murder, not even memeing. causing pain to someone vs CAUSING AN ENTIRE LIFE OF PAIN TO SOMEONE
>le "hahaha lets have kids and gamble with their life! he might be retarded or have no fucking arms and legs, but who cares, he'll be our bundle of joy and life is precious!" meme
If you are a parent, I seriously hope you fucking die in the most excruciatingly painful way possible, just so you can wish you were never born the entire time and realize how much of a piece of shit you are before you die
>>73790134
You're asking for something absurd of white men, I hope you realize that. As you acknowledge, the reason shitskins have so many children is because they're generally barely capable of long term thinking and risk assessment; they don't do it out of a desire for their people to flourish. You want high IQ white men to reproduce at great rates without realizing that it is in fact high IQ itself that is a limiter on reproduction.
>>73790313
>Helen Smith
aint clicking that shit kikeboy
I have kids because i am a winner. All NEETs must hang.
>>73790432
Suit yourself. Deny the evidence.
i don't know man
why should I pass on my useless weak genes
i'm not that smart, not that handsome and a complete sperg in social situations
>>73787083
same, my genetic is too shit for me to reproduce
>>73790164
Thank you
>>73788683
With a 30% muslim population, having 5 to 7 children per house, imagine the fertility rate of whites in France
>>73790324
The worst part about this is I'm not memeing, baiting or trolling at all, I'm dead serious and some of you are so far gone you'll never realize this, and you will still claim to be "redpilled"
And literally the only rebuttals to what I've said will be:
>le edgy xd
>le cant get laid xd
PARENTS OF /POL/ GET THE FUCK OUT, I AM DEAD SERIOUS PLEASE FUCKING DIE YOU ARE NOT REDPILLED IF YOU HAD CHILDREN
>>73787083
I was an edgy, angsty teen who was never going to be a wage-slave, just like all teens. Except that I actually did break out of the yoke. I bought my first house at 23, rented our every room individually to friends in school, sold it, bought a better house, sold that, bought a better house. Sold that, put it all in the stock market in 2008, and then the stock market tripled in value. I'm now totally retired at 42 living off of dividends and capital gains, on a 35 acre plot of land within 10 minutes of excellent freshwater fishing. I will never have to work again. None of this would have been possible if I got married in my 20s and started breeding.
>>73788972
This. 100k for a public school teacher is delusional. Even C3PO didn't get paid for speaking a bunch of languages.
>>73790586
Check out Odoru! Kremlin Kyuuden. I'm sure /pol/ will get a kick out of it. It's all about Communism.
>>73790266
Just because you are slightly shorter than average height is really no excuse to avoid procreation. After all you overcame it which goes to show your genes are not inherently bad. There's also the genes of the mother to consider.
Don't you want to leave something behind before you die?
>>73790485
>evidence
she's just spouting opinions
>>73790313
>society is sick and now punishes what made it flourish
>the solution is to withdraw and go extinct
I say again, you are the Jew.
>>73790644
nice mate
does renting your house to friends work?
>>73790716
>she's just spouting opinions
No, she isn't. Actually watch the video Muhammad.
>>73789190
>While you free child argue about diapers and child tantrums, Muslims are having 4 to 8 kids per couple.
And we're paying for their diapers and schools anyways.
>>73787083
Going to have two to three with my wife to be.
>>73787083
Child is a cancer slowly killing you. Also if a war happens you cannot run or fight efficiently.
>>73790731
So what is the solution then?
Accepting the current situation that is immensely skewed in favor of women, simply because we need to refill the next generation with whites?
Sorry, but I also want to live a good life while I'm here too.
>>73790394
It doesn't have to be all high iq. Average iq and slightly above average works too because there will exist at least the potential of high iq children from generation to generation. Avg to slightly above avg iq whites reproducing is at least still better than tons of africans and muslims reproducing at iqs of 70ish to low 90s.
>>73787083
>Sandler
Oh look, it's another one from the western """media""". I wonder who could possibly be behind this article.
>>73790046
This.
>>73790905
Find a decent woman is the only choice and that can take years. Then loyalty towards you must be built.
There's no point.
Even if you somehow find a woman who isn't deceiving you, who won't initiate divorce, who won't turn your own children against you, who will agree to raising them properly, so what?
Even if you have six children, it is not enough, because the majority of whites still won't do this. You can spend your life trying to uncuck people, and you'll never reach more than a tiny percentage of them because they have been subverted for generations. Most people will never be able to afford to raise that many children properly. Putting children through a school full of Muslims, having the boys beaten by grown men, and the girls abducted, raped, or even taken forever and forced to marry one of them. All while the police do nothing. All while the whites refuse to see the problem.
Meanwhile blacks have little concept of safe sex resulting in a huge brood and browns have a cultural tradition of having four to six children, so they're all going to do it, and the state will pay for it. If you pay taxes, you are paying for this. You're paying for the importation of even more of them. If you're not paying taxes, how are you going to raise children properly?
Without a huge societal change, it cannot reasonably be done. This battle was lost before we were even born.
>>73790749
you will end up hating all of your friends. But yeah. Shit, after all my rooms were rented out, I was living there for $50/month plus my share of utilities. And it's not like I was hosing anybody on rent.
>>73790905
The only reason any of us exist is to pass on our genes. Don't be so self-indulgent.
>>73787083
26 yr old male and in the back of my head is a a small urge saying have kids thats creeping up more often
>>73790324
Wew, I guess you won't be adopting an unwanted Brazilian pinhead any time soon?
>>73790999
Why is Brazil and by extension all of central and south America not really part of western civilization?
>>73790999
And the author of this article is INDEED a Jew.
http://www.tabletmag.com/podcasts/3443/a-higher-purpose
>EVERY FUCKING TIME.
>>73787083
I have a great body but an ugly face so I have no fucking chance. Made worse by the fact that I find women to be seriously wanting and really boring and banal.
I'll just get a high paying job and enjoy the money I make.
Id love to, but bad genes and much more prevent me from getting in a relationship. I got cucked by life pretty much.
>>73787083
I will either have 0 children or 4-5 children
>>73791155
We exist to ensure the survival of our genetic material, which goes far beyond merely having children.
>>73791147
how did you deal with the "we're friends mang dont worry" bullshit
this has been posted 100's of times. fuck off.
>>73791111
Stop pushing the 'decent woman' meme.
All woman are the same. All women share the same culture. All woman watch the same media. All women share the same biological instincts. All women gain from the same political institutions.
Women want you to believe that they are not responsible for feminism themselves, while at the same time getting every benefit of it.
>>73791111
>Find a decent woman is the only choice and that can take years.
Fair enough, but what if you never find one? How is that any different from just refusing to have kids?
>>73791155
>The only reason any of us exist is to pass on our genes. Don't be so self-indulgent.
It might be the only reason you exist, but I have several other reasons as well, such as happiness, pleasure, friendship.
I'm sorry that your life is so shit that the only value you see in front of you is having children.
>>73788257
Coming Malthusian population collapse will disproportionately effect non-whites.
>>73791378
>goes far beyond
What? Cloning? Making sure your brother doesn't die? Help me out here.
If trump becomes president, I will have children.
>>73791481
>happiness, pleasure, friendship
Way to miss the point, Jew.
>Sandler
why would you want a wife if you were not going to have kids? the purpose of women is to reproduce with them, they dont enrich your life at all. I wish i didnt want to have kids, i would never speak to another woman again.
>>73791646
>Being happy, enjoying pleasure and friendship doesn't matter and is "self-indulgent", only having white children matters
Literally immune to logic and rationality.
>>73787083
I plan having 6 children, I can keep 3 after divorce if it ever comes to that.
>>73787083
Its good to know what you're limitations are.i'd give teaching a miss though.
>>73788545
according to Pew, 95% of americans want 2-3 kids, no gender difference.
>>73790305
He can enjoy being branded a shitskin pedophile by the community for the rest of his life while being laughed at when mentioning his profession.
>>73791536
Malthusian contractions haven't happened in developed countries since the Industrial Revolution... although those locavore faggots and anti-trade types are trying to make it happen.
>>73791146
Even if 20 of us on pol renounce defeatism and have 3 white kids each that is still a growth of 20 children. If we instill in each of them the importance of family and reproduction within our race then it would make a difference. Stop thinking about it on an individual level and think of the collective.
>>73787083
>jew makes spam samethread again
sage/report/hide
>>73790324
>>73790643
Probably the reason people ignore your posts or shitpost you to oblivion is the writing style of a 13yearold and your inability to actually present your case for not procreating in a coherent manner. This said,I will bite the bait. Your whole argument decomposes after you acknowledge the fact that suffering and pain is not necessarily wrong. Stoicism/positivism are the philosophical schools that offer pretty sound reasoning behind this,Schopenhauer/Nietzsche also dabbled into this pretty heavily. Since you are an American and hence have no general education I will point out to you that you are propagating a consequentialist(ethical egoism to be more precise) point of view and given your line of "reasoning"(to call your outlook reasoning is a stretch) ,ultimately, ethical egoism which boils down to nihilism. This has been in vain since you will probably ignore this post and continue eating burgers/shitposting like the good goy Americoon you are.
Also, your posts are really edgy/autistic.You should at least try to camouflage your mental condition.
>>73791660
Lauren Sandler is a Jewess. This whole debate over another kike-prefabricated lie is bullshit. I'm also quite amazed no one else here actually bothered searching the author to make sure it's a legitimate article.
>http://www.tabletmag.com/podcasts/3443/a-higher-purpose
>>73789219
No, because you don't have kids
>>73790266
>>73790492
>>73790494
Get a god-like Aryan man to help you out, dudes
>>73790394
High IQ prevents people from having children by mistake. It also make it easier to learn from mistakes and plot out collective action. High IQ white couples had big families in the past and they will have them again soon.
>>73790644
>edgy, angst teen
>edgy, angsty retiree
checks out
>>73790905
How exactly do you think it's skewed? Is it jew lies about "muh divorce" again?
>>73791445
Lol spend less time watching the electric jew and more time reading. Not all women are the same. There human biodiversity. Most traits are inherited. Most women do not inherit the traits that jewesses inherit, so they don't act like the crazy bitches jew screenwriters cook up for pop culture.
>>73791764
>an easy life spent worrying only about oneself is worthwhile
Literally a spoiled child.
>>73791481
>Fair enough, but what if you never find one? How is that any different from just refusing to have kids?
You can do it. Renounce defeatism which is so prevalent in these threads. Venture out and find where a good woman might be. In the us it might be a church for example.
>>73787083
>childfree
>life
pick one
>>73792087
>an easy life spent worrying only about oneself is worthwhile
Well it is. Plenty of people live lives like that and are happy.
What now fag?
>>73790009
Absolutely, you'll want multiple children to help with the chores should you ever be injured, otherwise you'll simply die
>>73791547
The offspring must also survive and reproduce, and their offspring, and their offspring, and so on.
If you're just prolonging it for a few generations, then you haven't actually succeeded.
I am here because an unbroken chain of people brought me here over countless generations. They didn't just have children, they created the environmental conditions, sometimes with the loss of their own lives, that allowed their descendants to also have children.
If I just have children, despite knowing everything that is to come, I have not succeeded in passing on my genes if their children, or their childrens' children happen to be killed off anyway.
>>73787083
I'd like to impregnate a woman when I'm on my deathbed. That way I can carry on my lineage but won't have to have the little shit get in the way of my life.
That or just be the first person in my bloodline since the dawn of time to not have children. That's also pretty cool.
What about love niggers??
>>73792408
Love doesn't exist.
>>73791892
>stop thinking about it on an individual level
Jesus you sould like the socialists. As for 'instilling importance of family and reproduction' I'm sure your parents tried to instil values in you but here you are talking shit on a far right shithole rather than being productive.
>Anyone here not plan on having children? Or simply not have the urge to procreate?
Already have two, one's living out on his own now, the other will be moving out into the world next year.
>It just seems like a waste of time.
On the contrary, it is THE purpose of life, Everything else is "vamp until ready."
>Traditional family structure is over and divorce and child support are inevitable,
No, though traditional families are less common and divorce more so. Making it work requires a commitment, which, if you are unable to make, will doom the whole enterprise -- but the fault there is not in the institution, it would be in you.
>its hard to find a good woman,
For you...
>children are expensive, time consuming, stressful, and make everything sticky,
True enough, as a list of the downside that's pretty inclusive. It is not the only side.
>and I feel its cruel and selfish to force a non consenting sentient being into this world.
Edgy bullshit.
>Anyone feel this way?
Presumably so.
>I dont hate kids I just dont want to have my own or have then around my personal belongings.
Reading your post, I thank you on your potential children's behalf.
>Im actually plan on becoming a elementary school teacher because im a minority male and speak 4 languages so I am guaranteed a Job in my area (Long Island) where teachers earn on average $110,000 a year with bloated pension, health insurance, summers off, tenure etc.
On the one hand, positive male black role models are so desperately needed, I applaud that. On the other, you come off as such a dick I am not sure the word "positive" would apply.
>>73792262
What now is we wait for you to get a little older so you can discover for yourself the soul-crushing emptiness that is behind the smile of a forty year old who acts like he's twenty.
>>73787083
>Traditional family structure is over
I hate liberals so much.
>>73792366
gotchya
>>73790751
K watched it. No evidence.
>>73790644
I've seen this /biz/ meme a dozen times. Nice try, leaf
>>73792366
>If you're just prolonging it for a few generations, then you haven't actually succeeded.
On the other hand, if you fail to prolong it for a few generations, you have actually failed.
>>73790164
Good heavens, look at the time!
>>73792530
>>73792530
Well I am 27 years old, and I have a nice job, make a lot of money, and have zero need for a relationship, because I can just fuck women all the time, either by seducing them when I'm drinking, or actually buying a prostitute.
If you think there's some "magic" in being in a relationship with a woman, other than a massive headache, and a baby that's crying from 2 am till 7 am, you're delusional and you'll get a wake-up call soon enough.
It's also going to be interesting the day your daughter comes home trailing Tyrone on her shoulder telling you that she's pregnant.
>>73792492
/thread
>>73792082
>Most women do not inherit the traits that jewesses inherit
There you go again.
>m-muh waifu is different!
>m-muh waifu is pure!
>m-muh white women aren't feminist!
>m-muh white women aren't pushing for immigration!
>o-only Jewish women are like that. Mine isn't.
>h-her DNA is u-unique and she isn't affected by culture, economics or common human instincts!
>>73787083
>force a non consenting sentient being into this world
As opposed to what?
>>73787083
>because im a minority male
Yeah, you shouldn't have kids
This whole thread
>>73787083
You could support an African child through education? Whilst taking no moral responsibility, plus scoring points against your teacher friends.
>>73790394
This is the other problem with the "just have more kids" argument.
We're living in an environment of artificial abundance, so they only way to compete is to become the r-type.
r-selection does not have in-group preference so they'll just race mix and the white race will be eliminated that way.
There is no social code that will override these innate gene survival strategies so long as the environment is abundant.
Whites cannot survive as a people outside of a scarce environment.
>>73788362
This.
You people are whats wrong with the world.
>>73792444
>Jesus you sould like the socialists.
Not talking about economic policy here lol. If we all agreed to reproduce here we could make a difference. People are too caught up in the individual way of thinking believing that they are absolutely powerless.
Yes my parents instilled values in me, and it has nothing to do with me posting here. Whatever point you're trying to make with that statement is moot.
I'm in my 30's, childfree and NEET. My parents were degenerates so I don't owe them grandchildren.
>>73787083
That's right don't have children. That's what they want your race to die out.
But truly the only disease is the infertility of childless couples who engage in their hedonistic lifestyles.
That's why if we isolate ourselves from you hippies we might have a chance to repopulate the Western Civilization before it's too late!!
I really want to have kids one day but I don't want to be a single parent and American women are god awful
>>73791424
well that's how you end up hating all of your friends.
>hate the ones who leave that linty, sweaty shit-streak on the back of the toilet seat
>hate the ones who don't wash their dishes
>hate the ones who move out and leave you with $85 in unpaid utilities
>hate the ones who use your shit and break it
>hate the ones who leave car parts in the back yard
>hate the ones who use up all your shaving cream and never buy asswipe
>people are generally shitty, the best revenge is living well
>>73792659
It makes no difference.
The genetic lineage dies out either way.
Extending it by a tiny fraction of a percentage of its lifetime is nothing.
>>73792755
A relationship is nice to havr because you have a lifelong partner. It helps if you're friends beforr the relationship.
Create a good male role model and your daughter won't do that.
>>73792755
"Let me tell you all about the lifestyle that I do not lead."
>>73792755
I said reproduce.
You said marriage and relationship.
Not speaking the same language here, Mohammed.
If you want to see the results of your grand philosophy of fucking sluts and maximizing your own base pleasures, you needn't look far... just out the window should do it.
>>73787083
M8 I'm planning on having at least 20 children. Hope to get 25.
>>73787128
>wonder who your assets will be transferred when you die
>leaving assets
>not burnin every cent till the day you die ad leave nothing in this world
>>73793250
Happy rodgering geeza.
>>73787083
I want to have a child. I feel there is nothing more powerful than raising your son or daughter to carry on your powerful bloodline and conquering the world with your name attached to him or her.
Sure I'll be dead, but who gives a fuck. My blood will beat yours and that is all that matters.
>>73793237
>I said reproduce.
>You said marriage and relationship.
Ok, so you're essentially advocating that I become a nigger thug, just to spread my genes.
Well I'm not going to do that. If I even have children one day(which is not likely), it will be a traditionalist family.
>>73788257
Catholics beg to differ.
>>73792781
Yep, we've got a live one here. Do you know nothing at all about human biodiversity?
>>73793137
But unless you have a perfect ability to foresee the future (and, you don't) you cannot know whether your genetic line will die out in a few generations. That is unknowable, and not under your control. Your descendants and so many other factors will have a say in that.
What you CAN control is whether your line gets past your generation.
If it does, you've done your bit and the rest is up to the next generation(s). If it doesn't -- well, you can't win if you don't play.
>>73788026
>basement
>Philippines
Pick one
>>73787083
retard. this is a christian board with traditional conservative values
makes me really sad to see people complain about niggers fucking like rabbits and then turn around going "there's just no point" like a defeatist fag
really fucking sad
While I am an antinatalist, I do realize it's just as annoying to talk about not wanting kids as it is hearing about people's kids and having them paraded around in front of you.
>>73787083
Failure. Twist it any way you want you're still a failure if you don't have kids.
I'm a failure.
>>73793295
I once knew a man who was killed for complementing Bolivia. He said it was too good for the sort of people who live there.
(WC Fields joke...)
I love my fucking kid. I didn't realize how awesome kids are until I had my own. On the other hand, faggots like OP would probably be terrible parents and raise degenerate autists, more SJW's, and beta cucks. Leave child rearing to the ones who actually care about people, society's most vulnerable, loving, and curious people.
Plus when I'm old and shitting my self on my deathbed, I'll have someone who loves me more than anything taking care of me in my final months. I won't have to rot away in a nursing home where the staff is just wishing I'd hurry up and die.
>>73793521
suddenly we need to souct out and employ the niggers of the euroworld (irish and italians)
>>73787083
THIS IS A CLASSIC ROUTINELY POSTED SHILL JEWISH PSYOP
KNOWING THIS SITE IS MOSTLY YOUNG WHITE MEN THEY MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO NOT HAVE KIDS
IT IS WHITE GENOCIDE
REPORT AND HIDE
IF YOU SEE THE OPS IMAGE STARTING A NEW THREAD KNOW THAT IT IS BULLSHIT
HAVE WHITE CHILDREN FREINDS
NOW WATCH THE SHILLS RESPOND AND DEFEND THEIR CHILDFREE HEDONISM
>>73793638
>antinatalist
Fuck this century.
>>73792530
I know older people that never had kids or even married. A they do is travel and shit. They've been together for years. There's a difference between going your whole life single because you're a loser and can't lock a family down, and simply not being a status quo idiot who does what they're supposed to like good little citizens.
>>73789487
>my wife and I are pregnant
I will never understand why people say that. Does she have a baby growing inside her and you have the placenta in your urethra?
>>73793842
>travel
And yet they missed the most amazing journey of them all.
>>73793707
There's no such thing as death in a virtual simulation,
lmao if i wasnt a fat autist i'd go around gibbing all the non shitskin woemen the BIG CAUCASIAN DING A LING right in there vagooters left and right so that they could be empregger'd with my SPERGBABBY MASTOR RACE papooses and i'd just like hang out and play vidya all day and snooze when im not having premarital sex lmao :D
>>73793947
You're one of those people who places way too much investment in what other people do with your lives, most likely to validate your own uninspired life choices. You're not selling me, and I just feel bad for you.
>>73794059
their lives*
>>73789487
Congratulations! Your birth rate is higher than the Canadiens don't mind that connects were living in their mothers basements they really don't matter in the overall course of humanity they masturbate to anime and they'll die and live miserably.
Is it true that these fertility treatments can increase your likelihood of having twins and triplets? Seems like a way to have lots of children very quickly and compete with the Muslims. have 4 of those in the row and I could have 12 kids in 4 years!
>>73792917
The fact of the matter is that there are Jews on both sides of the argument
>>73793702
uh.... ok?
>>73787128
>good goy
You're the good goy, family lawyer shill.
I don't want kids. All i want to do is to live in a comfy little apartment and have a nice job. Kids are expensive, loud, annoying, ungrateful, and horrible teens that will eventually leave you. I also have been depressed the majority of my life and know i would be a bad parent and may go post-partim on them. I can hardly take care of myself let alone another life.
>>73788257
>whites are too intelligent to have 8 kids
It's not a matter of intelligence. But oh well, enjoy gypsies ruling over you.
t. white american with 3 kids and another on the way
>>73787083
Stfu shill.
If you don't have children, from a biological point of view you are fucking worthless, there is no reason for you to exist.
>>73793553
The situation is still too uncertain.
I don't know what this country is going to be like in ten years time, but there are parts of the country that already represent what it may be like and to bring a child into that environment is worse than them never having been born.
I could start making plans to leave, but to where? There are places that appear to have survived to this point, but their existence is fragile and could be corrupted in mere years. Eastern European countries are white, but the EU could just force them to take millions of third worlders, then that's destroyed immediately. There are parts of America which are still white, but Obongo recently decided white suburbs must take dindus, and $hillary would surely take that even further.
I don't even have the money to move and I'm not going to have it for a while yet. I have approximately zero experience with women, too. While I can work on these things, it's going to take time.
Maybe an opportunity will arise in the future, but I can't predict where it will be.
I love my kid, for sure, don't get me wrong, he's the world. However, before I had a kid, I was 90th percentile fit, I had relaxing, stimulating hobbies, I was ambitious and liked tackling challenges. Now that I have a kid, all of my old hobbies are just chores that I can't do because I can't keep a 3 year old from fucking with them. I am now working my way towards being skinny-fat, thin-wristed, slump-shouldered feeb. I am tired all of the time, and I spend my entire day planning around shit like "how much can I get done in the morning before my kid wakes up", "how can I get these renovations done and keep the kid out of the circular saw", "when was the last time the kid pooped/ate/bathed", "how long until I can spend an hour trying to get that kid to go to sleep so that I can bathe and cry myself to sleep". I waited to have kids until I was more secure financiallly, and mentally, and emotionally, and I love my kid, but I really, really miss being a human being allowed any amount of self-interest. I am now just a tired, life-support system for a selfish little mini-me prick. I don't want another kid, and honestly I was happier and healthier before I had a kid. Nobody in real life will tell you this because it makes a person sound selfish and shitty. But kids completely take over your life and make every aspect of it more difficult.
>>73790664
It's near the end of the payscale in canada but it is a thing
>>73787569
This is 4Chan, not a Harvard English seminar.
>>73788362
but this makes no sense.
statistically the more education and income a person has, the less likely they are to reproduce.
the people who aren't having kids are exactly the type who should be having them.
/pol/ is completely schizo on this subject.
>>73796546
It's literally idiocracy.
>>73787083
I'm a MGTOW and will not have children in the current climate. The government has too much power and control in family life and they hand this power unrestricted to women. This means no fault divorce so women can at any time, for any reason, divorce you and take most of your assets with her. Family courts favour women as the primary caregiver more than 90% of the time and give her the power to take the kids and make sure you can never see them again. Women consulting lawyers who want sole custody and want the man gone will be told by lawyers that all they need to do is tell the court she fears of the safety of herself and her children and you'll never see them again.
You'd have be to extremely stupid to assume that much risk, and there's no good way to mitigate it, judges can tear up prenups if the woman starts the water works and tells the judge she was verbally promised something or coerced into signing.
In the UK there's a law passing right now that means even if you don't marry, if you live together and have a child she gets equivalent to alimony if she decides to leave.
In some places you can get stung with child support payments even if you're not the bioloigical father (some american states), places such as canada have child support laws that can set child support payment way above what you earn. And places like france even getting a DNA test to prove children aren't yours is illegal.
The world is a fucking mess for men and the smart thing to do is just opt out of these institutions until they're reformed.
Meanwhile men have never had it better as bachelors, it's easy to get work with a STEM degree, it's easy to climb a corporate ladder and make bank, living alone in a small bachelor pad is extremely cheap, porn, beer, gaming, drugs and casual sex are free or cheap, no money to spend on families or women mean you can save, invest, meanwhile all your assets are safe.
>>73796546
While r/K selection theory is a simplified model, it explains the phenomenon.
>>73789604
>deing
sounds more asian than white
>>73796688
>You'd have be to extremely stupid to assume that much risk
But as men aren't we risk averse? Havent we agreed on this board that women are easy to manipulate? Can't we do this to the extent that they will stay married to us?
>>73794059
This, I'm taking a trip to Ireland in a couple weeks in June, glad I don't have to drag any children along, or pay someone else out the ass to care for them. Feels good.
>>73787083
>MFW both me and my gf are on our last year of med school and have been together since we were 14 and can't wait to start a proper aryan christian family
feels good man
>>73787083
Having kids has become such a conflicting topic
I personally never planned on having children, mostly because I want to spare them from living a meaningless life in this mediocre world.
On the other hand, if too many of us do that same thing, the foreigners will just come in and take over our lands and erase our culture.
I don't like that idea of the common heritage of my people being destroyed by these African, Asian and middle eastern invaders. They procreate like it's nothing but a tool for invasion and our governments are fine with that.
These kids are raised like cattle and that's exactly what they are in the eye of the industry.
I hate the fact I'm stuck being nothing but a resource in the hands of an elite and I only wish to spare my offspring from having to live like that
I would like a kid in the future, but there are alot of weaker people who don't want that sort of responsibility.
>>73797372
That's some commitment right there.
>>73796688
jesus man. this thread is about people that choose not to have kids. not people that have given up on normal life because women are meanies.
>>73796688
>it's easy to get work with a STEM degree
Only if you're a normie.
>>73797648
well i don't see why not.
we always got along. we loved each other through the whole of high school. we had a great time living together during med school. we have secure good jobs lined up and if we aren't right for starting a family in a few years then who is really. we can't wait to have our own house, couple of dogs, and raise some kids.
My boyfriend and I use birth control and spermicide, we really don't want kids. Why have a shit covered howler monkey when you can just get a fucking dog.
> Compsci and Applied Math grad from UC Berkeley
> GF at 25
> Married at 29
> Kid 1 at 30
> Kid 2 at 33
> Now 45, kids are 14 and 11
> Life changed utterly
> Responsibility through the roof
> Feel like real man
> Cops routinely let me slide because white, dad, alpha because dad.
> Not easy, not hard, feels right.
> Couple years ago all 3 of us beat the minecraft dragon together. Fucking awesome.
> Growing up fast.
All I can say is, I'm glad I didn't choose to be a selfish loner. You live and die a thousand deaths as a parent, and meet tons of people. You literally expand your life many times and in many directions.
Fucking dad jokes, friends. How many tickles does it take to make an octopus laugh? ten tickles.
>>73797648
alot isn't a word. A lot. Think about it, like a parking lot, it means big or many. Don't trigger me again. pal.
>>73793707
>I won't have to rot away in a nursing home where the staff is just wishing I'd hurry up and die.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Just go and pay a visit into an actual nursing home. Bring your kids too, it might turn out to be an amazing learning experience for both you and them.
Once you're there, talk to the residents. The older the better, listen to the stories they have to tell and most importantly, ask about their children.
You might find out most of them have multiple kids they haven't heard of for months, sometimes years, not because the kids are bad people but because they're fucking wage slaves that have to struggle to conciliate working long shifts and raising a family of their own.
>>73798798
I am sorry for this I do not feel good to day.
I have four kids at 29 and life is pretty good. I'd rather not be on my deathbed one day and suddenly regret not having any.
If you don't procreate you're a failure on the most basic evolutionary level.
You insult by proxy everything you know, love, and believe in by not procreating.
Stop lying to yourself and just admit you cant get a women and you'd make a terrible father
>>73798378
>Having kids in your 30s
>not having them in your 20s
*laughing in arabic*
>>73799248
having kids in your 20s seems like a bad idea, i mean you'll be around longer in their lives and their grandkids lives but what kind of a job will you have at 26 that you can afford a baby?
>>73790324
Hows being under 25 feel?
>>73799012
> to day
You. I'm going to find you. Don't think I won't.
>>73799248
Yeah, it's called extended adolescence and I had to shake some shit out before I could settle down. I was an alcoholic until 44. I'm also 1/2 Irish!
>>73799248
Why don't we settle this in the ring aniki?
>>73787083
>TIME MAGAZINE
OP is toxic
>>73797372
where do i stand /pol/?
>youngest of 8 children
>only progeny yet to procreate
>have 9 nieces and 7 nephews
>very involved, taught them all to read, write and do maths before school
>got them all involved with sports, martial arts, dancing, music, chess, etc
>not much spare time due to work (lawyer) but see them all at least once a fortnight
>they come for dinner, sleep over, i go to their events, take them to activities
Given my circumstances, am I still obliged to have my own children?
>>73799527
Dude, are you for real?
You're on /pol/ therefore
You know the world is fucked up
You know our lives are meaningless
You know we're being controlled like puppets
You know there's nothing we can do to fix this
Are you seriously that big a selfish shit you want to impose all that to an innocent life just so you can satisfy your instinctive urge to procreate or even worst delay the muslims taking over
>>73797372
Awww, fuck you, m8. I can read a hundred posts of chads bragging about fucking hundreds of women without batting an eye. But yours makes me envious.
>>73800393
yes, beacuse you seems to be good guy
>>73800817
nevermind, I did not notice flag at first, you shouldn't
>>73800631
Dude, are you for real?
You're on /pol/ therefore
You know the world is fucked up
You know our lives are meaningful
You know we're being controlled like puppets
You know there's nothing we can do to fix this without the right attitude
>>73787083
lel no
Supreme manlet genes means I am out of the reproductive race. No woman wants a kid from a guy who is 5'6. I'll enjoy my degeneracy and watch the world burn.
[spoiler]Giddy Up[/spoiler]
>>73800631
Many on /pol/ don't understand that the only hope is a favourable collapse.
Having a kid is pretty cool man. When you see little fucking spawn that make you want to heave from the amount of leakage just their noses make then yeah sure, kids seem pretty dumb.
It's not all bad though. Having kids is kinda fun when you get past the baby/early stage. Just don't shake the fucker and realize you have your own spawn you can grow to be a good red pilled faggot that goes on 4chan everyday to be edgy.
