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How's that "living wage" thing working out for you libfags?
www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-group/
Reality pwns libtards again.
Replacing a cashier is easier than the BoH people, because it's just going to be tied to the same ordering system as the POS. Doesn't eliminate the workforce.
Here in Canada they're already a reality.
I went to a McDonalds and there were like 8 of these things infront of the till. You punch in your order, pay by debit/credit or cash, and receive a receipt as proof that it's your order.
Some staff still make the things, but it looked almost dead in the back - like half of what a regular McDonalds used to be.
The manager was even walking around asking us if we had any problems with the kiosks.
>>73737444
It's funny because they are not only rolling them out in states with high wage, but also states with low wage.
At this point, not only do you need to accept not getting a raise to keep your job, you need to take a pay cut,
one step closer to basic income
>>73737444
>mfw we tried to warn them and they didn't listen
>>73738264
I remember my McDonalds had them in like 2005, and then they were removed. No idea why, the technology isn't new or revolutionary.
>>73738192
that's fucking awesome
I don't go to fast food places because I live in Atlanta and it's always dumb nigger bitches behind the counter. I'd much rather deal with a machine that can't screw my order up or spit in my food because fuck whitey.
>>73738596
It's cheaper and more efficient now. That's the important part, that it's profitable.
>>73737827
Yes but now the company doesn't have to pay the front of house people so paying the back more doesn't hurt.
Yes, yes. More automation. Slowly we will achieve the capitalist dream of maximum profits and almost no wages. And let most of the population die out since they are useless. Perfect!
>>73738805
>so paying the back more doesn't hurt
ahahahahahaha
>>73738596
I work for a credit card company (merchant services) and the cost of those POS systems ten years ago was insane.
Just maintenance contracts (18months) for servicing them would be like 2-3x the initial price of the units. That number now is exponentially less.
>>73738192
Sounds lovely. I hope they add these to drive thru as well.
>>73738787
Like >>73738805 mentions, cutting the wages of a few FoH people should help pay for the machine and its upkeep. But like I mentioned, it's not like it's some magic machine, it's just a modified PoS for customers to use.
>>73737444
BAN ASSAULT KIOSKS
Does a machine make the burgers too? That would be real progress, you go in the shop and there are no humans working there.
>>73738971
Hopefully they make a strong comeback, that and mobile ordering. Mobile ordering is even better because your shit should just be done by the time you arrive, assuming you've time it correctly.
well it was only a matter of time, not so much wages. dont tell me the difference between kiosk and people is $2/hr. it was going to happen.
that said, i really wish the backroom people were replaced instead of the cashier. i trust a machine with my food
>>73738969
>>73738630
There were like 5 total staff in the back, with the manager walking around.
3 of which were on the drive thru tills and shit.
There would have literally been 2-3 people working there if the drive-thru was automated. And this was at rush hour.
>>73738346
>basic income
>providing unlimited resources to a population without any negative feedback mechanism being sustainable in any way
>>73738346
No. This is a sign that people need to get out there and innovate. Offer exceptional service that a machine can't.
People crave attention and personal interaction - even if it is 30 seconds at a store. Any business that caters to customer service will find success.
Giving people money for nothing always ends in disaster.
Those who don't work, don't eat.
>>73738920
oi vey the automobile is going to destroy my carriage business, capitalist bastids!
>>73738969
too bad faggots like you will take forever to order and hold up the line
>>73738596
People are used to tough screen technology because of iPad, PayWave technology makes the whole card payment system cheaper.
>>73739330
>unlimited resources
?
>>73738920
Learn to build roads.
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>>73739098
It's coming lad
>>73739400
Carriages got better grass mileage back in the day.
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>>73737444
>haw haw we'll just take all the jerbs away an' let everyone starve! Wot could go wrong?
>>73739778
budum tsk
japan is way ahead of you faggots
https://youtu.be/ZyscrXH2msI?t=1033
Where were you when 1970 nipland absolutely btfo Westerners
>>73737444
I'll be laughing when it's your job that gets replaced.
>b-b-b-but I can't be replaced, m-muh STEM degree!
Keep believing that, lol. Computer AI is developing at an exponential rate.
>n-n-not true! AI is just s-science fiction!
Sure. How's that captcha treating you?
>>73739816
This is how the terminators in reality begin.
>automated robots made to run service industry
>go absolutely insane after having to deal with niggers day in and day out
>go on a rampage leaving a trail of carnage, blood and happy meal toys.
>>73739988
Fuck jewtube embedding just go to 17:40
>>73739816
If the poor people don't have jobs, why don't they just live on their capital gains income?
>>73739730
It'll be like walking into an Automat, except there won't even be people behind the machines.
>>73740056
>Keep believing that, lol. Computer AI is developing at an exponential rate.
I actually work in the technology field, anon. Sure, it can replace shoddy customer service jobs such as macdonalds, but we aren't going to see anything close to automation replacing serious jobs within our lifetime
>>73739778
nice
>Neolibs suppress wages for decades
>People finally demand this be fixed
>Corperations respond by cutting employees
>"Haha! THis is a good thing! I love when the poor get poorer and the rich get richer!"
I don't get this mentality, what are you, fucking retarded?
>>73740169
You say that, but J. Robert Oppenheimer employed 400 women to do mathematical calculations for him while developing nuclear technology. Most universities had similar rosters. It was a good steady job for people who knew calculus.
Where are those jobs?
>>73740169
Yeah, sure. Important jobs are never going to be replaced, like surgeons, right?
Ooohhh wait. Surgeries that once took 36 hours to complete with a team of dozens of surgeons, nurses, and surgical techs, with a recovery time of days to weeks in the hospital can NOW be done by a team of 2-3 surgeons in an hour or two as an outpatient procedure, thanks to robitcally assisted, minimally invasive procedures.
That's dozens of medically trained professionals that just got replaced by a robot. You still don't think it's possible?
Keep living in your bubble, chump.
>>73739647
Are you stupid or trolling, I can't tell.
>>73740399
>>73740527
the insecurity here is a little rank
Capitalist glorifies in destruction of workers.
Then wonders where all the consumers are.
>>73739400
Carriage drivers just got jobs as taxi drivers. No one lost their job. What are order takers doing instead?
See, the difference between a carriage being replaced by an automobile, and an order taker being replaced by a computer, is that the automobile still needs a human driver.
What you should be asking, is what happened to all the horses when their labor wasn't needed anymore?
>>73739098
>Does a machine make the burgers too?
They already have a machine that could make pizza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyrav_9Pbsc
And yes, "burger machines" already exist too. It's just a matter of figuring out the most cost-effective design to maximize profit. In fact, those machines already exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcx7YJk2PYs
http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8
They also have self-checkout counters in grocery stores, and there are plans to implement this in department stores. So working as a cashier for retail stores like Whole Foods and Hot Topic would be gone, eventually. A store who got rid of 10 cashiers would only need to hire around 5 or so Loss Prevention associates, part time.
In short, many fast food and retail jobs would disappear.
This is the future the libshits chose. Hopefully, they got a useful degree, because their fallback careers as fast food workers and retail store associates would be gone.
>Gender/Diversity Studies BTFO
>Humanities/Liberal Arts majors BTFO
>non-STEM degrees BTFO
We'd be seeing more libshits getting on welfare, and if Trump wins...
>>73739730
>400 bugers per hour
FUGGG
>>73740909
>See, the difference between a carriage being replaced by an automobile, and an order taker being replaced by a computer, is that the automobile still needs a human driver.
Not for very long.
>>73741098
So you're telling me liberals are enabling the future of automation and innovation? Why is that a bad thing?
>>73740527
You have the right idea :^)
Were already way ahead of ya
t. grad student at johns hopkins
>>73741098
i just want a big-boy easy bake oven.
>>73740169
>Serious jobs
Except for manufacturing, transportation, banking/finance, farming, mining, or construction.
>>73741245
>Why is that a bad thing?
Did I ever say it was a bad thing to completely disenfranchise libshits by letting them destroy their financial future and turning a bunch of their own into the next generation of hobos and gutter corpses?
Come now.
I hear the kiosks are really cool. You can design your own burger with them. Can anyone confirm this?
>>73741464
dont forget law
>>73741607
I don't think you understand. Technology and automation is going to advance whether or not the minimum wage gets increased. Jobs are going to be replaced. This is an objective fact.
The difference is that liberals want to set up a social framework for a post-scarcity economy where the majority of jobs are automated, and conservatives just think half the population should starve to death.
>>73740169
>but we aren't going to see anything close to automation replacing serious jobs within our lifetime
I guess that depends on your definition of serious jobs.
One of the easiest jobs to automate are those found in the transportation industry, arguably easier than automating a McDonalds at this point. This is a huge source of middle income jobs we're talking about, this means there's even more of an incentive to automate the entire thing.
Once transportation and the medical fields become automated you're never going to have lower than 20% unemployment in the US again.
>>73740148
If the poor people can't afford kids why do they keep having them?
lol @ conservacucks
How backwards must your worldview be if you think menial tasks that humanity has had to toil under for millennia being replaced by machines and computer is a bad thing?
Liberals want this to happen, and want to create a society where the wealth created by such advances are shared by all. In other words, a utopia.
Conservatives are scared of the future and think we should live in the middle ages forever.
>>73742092
There was a time in human history where having a family wasn't seen as a luxury, you know?
>>73737444
Oh no, this is terrible! How will the USA ever recover?
A surplus of labor and the loss of menial tasks as careers? Too bad we are not the greatest entrepreneurs in motherfucking history, who will simply invent new industries that give our people better opportunities than flipping burgers anyhow.
Oh wait. That's exactly who the fuck we are. Let these jobs be mechanized. Let our entrepreneurs have a new labor pool to draw from. I believe in America enough NOT to think that losing cashiers is a bad thing.
>>73740527
That's why I'm going into research. It's one thing for an AI to do a complex task, but research takes a bit of creativity, which AIs won't be able to do for a long time.
>>73742012
Half the population SHOULD starve to death. Survival of the fittest.
>>73742767
You must be the coolest kid in the 10th grade.
I had my first experience with fast food ordering kiosk from a quickchek and holy shit was it great. I ordered my sandwich in complete detail in 1 minute while It would of taken 2-4 minutes + tip from some sassy teenager. I hope we get these things in most fast food places since they leave better customer service then actual human beings.
>>73743025
Wait, you didn't leave a tip on the counter for the people who made your burger??
>>73742092
gibmedats
>>73737444
>let's make low-skilled jobs illegal...
>complain when low-skilled jobs are eliminated
Fucking retarded politicians, I swear. You can't get more stupid people... Trump included:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/09/trump-shows-flexibility-on-taxes-minimum-wage-in-turn-toward-november.html
If its one thing I learned about Socialism, the first things to go are these worthless jobs of cashiers and kiosk attendants. Why do these low wage income suckers not understand that asking for more when they deserve less without dedicating themselves to something larger is actually killing their lifestyles?
>Muh Socialism
>Muh Equality
>Muh benifits
>Muh jobs
All into the trash with Socialism.
>>73742882
I was... 13 years ago.
>>73741098
>They also have self-checkout counters in grocery stores, and there are plans to implement this in department stores. So working as a cashier for retail stores like Whole Foods and Hot Topic would be gone, eventually. A store who got rid of 10 cashiers would only need to hire around 5 or so Loss Prevention associates, part time.
So I work at Walmart and I'm a self check host. Self check machines will not replace regular cashiers until they stop being clunky as shit. From what I gathered, there are two maybe three companies that make self check machines and none of them care to put effort into making them work once you get them.
The machines are consistently slow and break down hourly. I manage eight machines and we only ever run 6-7 at any given time. All eight working is a miracle. That is just the machine side of it.
Customers are idiots. You can have 10 signs brightly colored with huge bold font saying "CLOSED," "CASH ONLY," "CARD ONLY" and the dumb fuck customers will walk up to it and go ahead and try and use the machine anyways and then bitch when they can't pay with cash when the computer even prompts you that the machine is "CARDS ONLY."
Next customers are slow and the sensitive machine's scales don't help. Any order can take twice as long as it would for a cashier to do. This isn't noticed with smaller orders but larger orders can easily take half an hour.
Lastly, I end up doing about half the orders anyways because customers can't figure out how to scan items, follow instructions on the screen, or put money into the machine.
Even if the machines get better, cashiers won't go away until idiots go away. And as my dad always says "50% of people are below average."
>>73742345
>In other words, a utopia.
And libruls have divorced from reality long ago.
Thanks for demonstrating this.
>>73738971
can't tell if this is an expertly crafted bait or a person who genuinely believes firing people to pay others more is a good thing
fighting for a "living wage" is a moral argument and has no economic basis and you destroy your moral argument by firing people.
Pretty sure people would rather make 7 dollars an hour than 0
>>73737444
about time that shit was automated.
they've gotten my order wrong for the last time.
once the minimum wage hits 20 an hour even the faggot cooks are done.
>>73742767
i hope you wont mind starving then
>>73743144
>>let's make low-skilled jobs illegal...
Where the fuck are you getting this from?
>>73737444
Soon...
>>73738192
they did this here with our bank basically.
Out of 6 teller stations, only 1 left, and the rest are machines.
The 1 teller line is full of people because old folks want to talk to a person when they bank. The rest of the lines are empty save for one dude who has to hang around and help everyone use the machines.
I went to another branch where they had people because it was still faster than using the machines without any lines actually. The fucking UI was atrocious, hard to navigate, and limited in what you can do.
At the moment, using their machines wasn't a good experience.
There will always be a demand for people to service other people though, this much I can guarantee you, Mr. Leaf.
>>73743468
if your low-skill job generates $6/hr in revenue, and you make it illegal for companies to hire you for anything less than $15/hr.... that's the SAME THING as making that job illegal to begin with. You're being priced out of the market.
>>73743668
>The 1 teller line is full of people because old folks want to talk to a person when they bank.
Old people always take the longest at banks because they won't shut the fuck up. I'm pretty sure most old people go to the bank solely because they're lonely and want someone to talk to.
>>73742767
So you also support the right of Jamal to kill your family to take your property, right? If you can't stop him, you're too weak to live. Gotta build those walled compounds and barbed wire fences and drive yourself around in a tank.
>>73737444
Man, these guys should have patented this shit.
>>73743888
This. If a nigger rapes and murders your 10 year old daughter, she deserved it for not being strong enough to stop him.
>>73737444
Checked
>>73737444
Just because dad will give you a job that you don't know how to perform does not mean that the devaluation of labor in the real world is a good thing.
>>73743803
No, it's not the SAME THING.
>>73742767
By your logic, it'll be just when I kill you and steal your shit in the coming revolution.
I already knew this, but it's nice that you agree.
>>73742345
>Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam box!
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liberal utopia is a make believe society where white men don't exist and minorities live in peace somehow
>>73744410
Hello, I'm common-sense and basic economics.. have we met?
No?
I didn't think so.
Why should I even bother working if I don't make enough money to do anything?
>>73740901
>>>r/im12andthisisdeep
>>73739730
As a millwright, this dream machine fave me a chuckle
>>73743873
If you live by yourself in a dilapidated house, are too retarded to use internet, and all you have for entertainment was shitty TV reruns with 30 minute drug commercials about ailments and blood thinners, you'd also want to get the hell out and try to talk to anyone that walks.
>>73744582
Just because you "feel" it's the same thing, doesn't make it so.
>>73739356
>Those who don't work, don't eat.
Maybe 100 years ago, you'd be hard pressed to find someone literally starving these days
>>73744582
>thinking equilibrium wage/balance can ever be met in a real market
How's high school treating you?
>>73737827
>Doesn't eliminate the workforce.
The POS ordering system doesn't eliminate the workforce. This eliminates the workforce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_fSP3LGw8
... and cooks your food perfectly. And never forgets to take off the fucking onions.
Amazon runs entire warehouses the size of small cities with only a barebones staff. Inventorying the pickles isn't even a technological challenge. It's all about price.
The second you price human labor above the entry point for automation, human labor goes away.
The perfect fast food experience will be clean, sanitary, efficient, with not a single nigger collecting a paycheck. You'll hire a janitor to keep the eating area clean, and one cute white girl to just talk to people. (At least until we go full Japanese and replace the cute girl with a robot too...)
the company I work for put in kiosks after a negress fake TWO robberies of her cash drawer
nothing of value was lost
>>73737444
It's funny because half of the employees at my local mickie D got fired and got replaced by those machines too.
>>73744954
nice ad hominem
now, in real life... have you ever encountered a market shortage where prices were freely allowed to fluctuate?
The supply and demand curve shows a causal and generic relationship between quantity supplied, quantity demanded and price.. not an exact one. Obviously, I did not mean to say there is one price for any given good that's solely determined by the intersection of supply and demand. Each person's subjective valuation of the good will alter how much he/she is willing to pay for it.
For more on the topic, see this:
https://mises.org/library/subjective-value-theory
>>73737444
>touchscreen
I'll take my chances with the cashier
>>73742012
>post-scarcity
Stop using this term. We will never achieve that save for the development of E2M/M2E technology like Star Trek replicators.
There will always be a limit to the amount of resources we can feasibly extract/recycle and a consequent limitation on their rate of consumption.
>>73742438
When was that? You mean the artificial 50 year bubble created by the decimation of all but one major industrial economy?
Because other than that they were a desired/planned event or backup farm equipment.
The reality is that fastfood companies have been preparing to switch to fully automated cashiers for a while. The technology has existed for a long time, but they were dragging their feat because they'd have to eat the initial investment plus the bad PR from laying off a bunch of people that the machines replaced.
Luckily for them the decision was made for them by minimum wage hikes. Now they have a perfectly reasonable excuse to switch.
>>73742092
>If the poor people can't afford kids why do they keep having them?
someone have to plow field
>>73737444
test
>>73745033
Japs still hire real women as greeters and front desk clerks. After all, the manager can't grope and fuck a robot employee.
>>73739730
I read oven first and thought it was an automated jew gasser.. what have you done to me /pol/?
>>73742882
Whats stopping me from shitting out 10 kids and not working, only to have you pay for it?
Liberals think this is ok.
>>73745584
This. They dont like paying workers the wages they are getting now.
We are approaching the marxist disaster. The capitalist class in the search for greater profits are now literally destroying the consumer base upon which their profits are based.
Think for a moment. Who routinely eats at fast food? Not rich people that is for sure.
They are literally destroying their own customers ability to buy their shit.
>>73738920
The problem will be the population won't just die out. We'll need to do one of three things:
>create a new industry that hires these people
>compulsory sterilization
>massive die off
I actually a see a culmination of 1 and 2. We need to realize there are more people on this planet than necessary and should start sterilizing them to keep them from breeding and creating more welfare recipients, much like the US did in Puerto Rico back in the 1950's.
Most of the world's problems today would not be as exacerbated if we put in proper population controls in place. Ideally all 2nd and 3rd world countries adopt a one-child policy like in China and you then wouldn't have third wold hordes pouring into 1st world places.
>>73746171
1 could happen. 2 and 3 wont. The day of the rope would start and it would be class war not race war.
>>73746171
>>create a new industry that hires these people
We should hire people to dig holes, and then hire people to fill the holes back with dirt.
That way twice as many people can find work.
There is literally no flaw in this idea at all.
>>73738969
is that a real photo?
>>73745860
>the manager can't grope and fuck a robot employee
sounds like they just need better robots tbqh
Ted Kaczynski tried to warn us, but we didn't listen.
The longer we wait to overthrow the technological-industrial system, the worse it'll be when we do.
>>73746627
Found the underageb&
>>73737444
Bad for idiots. Excellent for POS tech representatives.
Maybe this brave new world will make smarter people,force idiots to learn a good trade.
>>73746714
They've got top men on it right now.
>>73737444
People (niggers) should be eating less fast food garbage, I don't even care how much they're forced to pay employees
>>73747395
Any trade that can be done by an idiot will soon be able to be done better and cheaper by a machine.
>>73744656
>as a useless waste of space
Fixed that for you. Fucking kill yourself, lazy union scum.
They tried them in Australia, nobody liked them or wanted to use it so they had to re-hire people.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/mcdonalds-goes-on-massive-hiring-spree/news-story/f91c158e175111b9f804ef92f1db21c1
>The fast-food chain says it’s creating 15,000 new jobs across the country as it revamps its customer service approach to become more like a traditional restaurant.
And that is at our ridiculous wages
So meh, this is a non-story, really.
>>73747414
..Who?
>>73748076
Top...Men.
>>73737444
>Retail automates food service.
>another business comes along and creates fast food vending machines based on the automation tech
>without the human interaction/flexibility of actual staff fast food has no point of differentiation and the industry dies
The Jew tears will be delicious.
>>73739988
Man cannot survive on used panties alone.
>>73748008
>this picture
>that's literally how it works
>>73750762
Not with that attitude, they can't. Don't be such a don'ter. Be a doer.
>>73739988
jesus when i think japan can't be even more based.
>>73748008
it's because we haven't passed the generational tipping point yet. My dad, in his early 60s, won't hear of online banking, and goes to a branch to deposit checks and gets paper statements mailed to him. When he pays bills he writes a paper check and sends it via snail mail. Everyone I know my age (late 20s) does all their banking and bill-paying online. The idea that you have to talk to a teller to do things seems odd and inconvenient.
That lingering overhang of boomers who still want to do everything the in-person way is propping up a lot of automate-able jobs. They're the reason Sears is still around and hasn't been completely replaced by Amazon and company yet. But time marches on and they will slowly die off as more and more people who grew up around the automated way come of age. The "No, we need to have real people! muh human touch!" thing will slowly fade.
Well, it will for things like Big Macs. I'm sure you'll always be able to have food cooked and served to you by real humans, but in the future that'll be a luxury thing, that you get at a fancy steakhouse. Fast food, groceries, that kinda stuff will all be self-checkout.
>>73738920
On the contrary.
All the wage laborers will be dead and the capitalist will remain, finally liberating the overmen from the hateful entitlement of the undermen.
>>73749337
This is fast food bro. The cheaper and faster the better. When's the last time you had a fireside chat with your local burger flippers?
The reconing is coming. Retail, fast food, hard labor, basic service, warehouse jobs and banking...prepare to get BTFO.
>>73751920
Huzzah!
>>73748008
I always use self-checkout when its available. It's faster, more convenient and avoids annoying/disgruntled cashiers.
SJW's, do you really want SOME OF TRUMP?
I don't think so. WATCH.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L3dGXeQM-tg
Can someone answer this? How the are the kids going to get their first job if they are using kiosk to do the cashiering? Or how the hell are all the people that couldn't get a jobs as cashiers would get their jobs now? Labor jobs are given to illegal immigrants, most of the assembly line jobs are ship oversea, and all the tech jobs are replace by Indians via outsourcing and H1B Visa users. Even getting an UNPAID internship is as hard as getting a job. It seem there will never be enough jobs out there and the boot-strap or hard work shit isn't going to work.
>>73752590
You're beginning to understand that the imposition of a minimum wage only accelerates the destruction of the working class demanded by capitalism.
>>73752590
Well, it's simple. They don't really.
You see, most kids will grow up just like they do now...watching TV and seeing ads, wanting to be and think like everyone around them. They will think gee...I wanna new car, a McMansion, fancy gadgets, trendy clothes, etc. They will want to be like everyone else. They will be programmed to think like their parents, they will not question their path.
They will be lazy and distracted until they end up in college. For the most part, college loans will be even more silly at this time...most kids earning 30, 40, 80 or 100K in slave points. They will graduate...it is not important in what field. They will be mostly entitled and confused...unable to integrate or find a job for some time.
The fun part is, they will be expected to pay their debt. Not just college but all the stupid shit that they bought as a young adult. They or their parents will be forced to pay...either federal or private loans. They will continue to fall victim to mindless consumerism.
You see, it will be great for the people that did bust their ass...the people that were smarter or just worked harder. Many millennials will continue to be cheap labor that has to work...plenty of dipshits desperate to earn back their freedom. They won't.
There has to be losers for there to be winners. Thanks losers.
>>73752590
there's really only one solution here, which is some kind of basic income. The problem is that it's difficult to make the numbers add up even if it replaces most other entitlement programs.
>>73738451
awoo
yea we had those for like a year in the bay area.
no one liked them. they were removed really fast.
>>73751920
>implying you're one of the overmen
>>73752946
I'm quite aware that increasing the minimum wage is a short term solution that would royally fuck up everyone in the end when the companies started using other means to get things done, as the things I just listed. I just don't understand how the fuck all the other people that wanted this see this.
>>73753563
I already got my BA on economic and paid it off with all the money I save from summer jobs I did during middle and high school, along with getting a meh job. But what worries me is how they can easily fire me or replace me with a machine when the minimum wage goes up and it's even scarier that I learn about this shit during my college days. ALL my professors keep telling the class that everything is fuck and the only real way to make a living in the next decade is being a real estate agent or investment.
>>73753659
That is nice and I would love if that were to happen, but this is the USA we're talking about. They see this as handouts or laziness while thinking there are still jobs out there if you boot-strap yourself or hard work, which we know this is bullshit. Part of me just want all these fucktards get fired for at least one month and see if THEY can get a job like all the kids that are trying to get a job right now.
We had them here in Washington, nobody liked them, they got dumped.
It's almost like there's more to a job than just menial tasks that can be totally automated, but that's just like my opinion, man.
>>73737444
"Order, Eat, Repeat." Does that sound depressing to anybody else?
>>73752590
Anyone can get a first job. It's really this simple.
Work for free. Yea that's it. Call up a potential company and tell them you want to work for fucking free. They always say yes. It worked for my gf after she got fucking fired. I told her to call a real estate company down the street and say she'll work for free. She did, got the job, and now is getting paid 3 months later. It's a shitty, last resort thing to do, but fucking works to get your foot in the door. Don't make excuses.
>>73746287
>>73746603
>robots cannot dig holes, but can build burgers
Unfortunately a massive die off is most likely. The globalists and the world governments are too incompetent to grasp a firm understanding and solution to the oncoming problem. Ideally we would have begun sterilizing the impoverished 25 years ago at a massive rate. Now it's looking too late, especially if more droughts are imminent which they most likely are. I think we could still sterilize the poor in the first world though, close our borders and let the second and third world kill themselves off in a population correction.
>>73739713
Seriously...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIXLQ8rJJeM
I'm a cashier, I don't give a shit if you automate my job because I have no plan of doing it for the rest of my life. I'm quitting this month anyway.
>>73743873
This is going to get worse when the amount of unwanted women skyrockets due to feminism...
>>73754862
Problem: how about all the other people that is going to get unemployed in the next couple of years because of a combination of minimum wage, automation, outsourcing, H1Bers, cheap illegal immigrant slaves, and the likes? Most of them wouldn't be able to just work for free or if there is enough company would be generous to give out "free" labor. Going back to school to get another degree would only indebt them further.
And then there is the HR part. They don't fucking care if you volunteer for a decade or did some internship for X company or if you have a Master Degree in X. If they find a quality that you don't have or a specific skill you don't know, they will mark you off. The HR in my workplace made a fucking Bingo game out of this and it sicken me.
>>73737444
>be seattle
>raise minimum wage
>small businesses have to lay off employees
>people request less hours so they can work part time and still get welfare
shits retarded yo
>>73748008
>antivaxxer logic
Please don't breed.
>>73751776
>They're the reason Sears is still around and hasn't been completely replaced by Amazon and company yet
To be fair, if I need something soon I'll go to a brick and mortar store. If something important breaks I'm not waiting a day or more to get what I need. If amazon somehow becomes able to deliver shit much faster than it already does (talking a couple hours here) physical store locations would completely die out since their one benefit of immediacy is gone.
>>73756303
>If amazon somehow becomes able to deliver shit much faster than it already does (talking a couple hours here)
I think they're already doing same-day delivery in some places. And they don't even have drones delivering the packages yet.
>>73755714
Try it at smaller companies.
They are easier to get into. They have lower requirements, the ceo is doing the hiring (so you deal straight with the top).
If you can't afford to work for free, you leverage 0% credit card debt to make you through the first year. The risk is bankruptcy, but who fucking cares.
Or you live with someone and share the rent (while paying it off with a low interest credit card).
These are techniques I know well. Not sure why I'm sharing them (well I'm drunk). Fuck it.
>>73756590
hm, didn't realize that. Neat.
>>73741143
> MFW Burgers Per Hour becomes a standard measurement
>>73756613
This
I have been trying to get work at bigger companies for the last year. Almost impossible without knowing somebody. 1 interview and about 70 applications since last July. Been working in finance for 10 years.
Big companies have all sorts of jobs available with no BA, but you need prior experience in the field. I don't really blame employers either, after working with so many people since age 18, I have realized that most people really suck at working hard, it's getting worse, and they all want more and more to do the same or less.
>>73743025
>not tipping the machine for the better service
You are a nigger.
>>73758071
>>73737444
I like the kiosks personally you get time to make an awesome custom burger and all the ingredients are shown to you and since it goes straight to there screen on the assembly line its a bit faster.
>>73744410
It has the same effect exactly. If its only sensible to spend $6/hr, but spending only $6/hr is illegal, then the job de facto is illegal as you cannot legally pay what the productivity is worth. Sure, you can hire someone for $15/hr anyway, but the $9/hr deficit is gonna fuck you up.
Electronic kiosks will always replace menial labor jobs and this has nothing to do with earning a living wage apart from the fact that eventually no one will be more employable than a kiosk.
Singularity is coming.
Note the irony of having to prove you aren't a robot ...
Marry your Japanese robot bride before it's too late.
