Psych Student here, I have an assignment based on the above and am interested in your views.
Parents, and professionals involved with children especially!
Thanks.
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>>73607311
I think its great. Gives me something to look at while i work. Teaching tends to get boring after a while. I call this periode winter
>>73607311
>posts picture of a black man
>>73607993
based yank
>>73607311
If a 5 yo boy can consent to gender reassignment why can't my 13 yo gf consent to sex with me?
>>73609423
He was a very good writer
>>73609680
>If a 5 yo boy can consent to gender reassignment
you cant take hormones until puberty and you cant have the surgery until you are 18. Holy shit burgers are dumb
>>73609721
Agreed. Shame too few of us took heed
>>73609812
Technically, they're transgendered, not transsexuals
You can change your gender with merely a thought, if you convince yourself of it
>>73609680
>>73609812
The age of puberty has dropped, this has been proven through research and the Bailey Investigation. This means that sex ed is now often after the start of puberty leaving children to find out on their own. This often causes problems due to them viewing inaccurate material. This added to the objectification and taboo nature of child sexuality leads to many problems world wide.
Sexuality refers to the display and thoughts. You could therefore identify as the opposite sex with just a thought.
>>73609838
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQZ-2iMUR0
>>73609812
Are you the Canadian transgender who posts pics of his dick on here all the time?
>children
>15 yo
that's why we have many sissy faggots today.
>>73610081
but thats not what he was saying, he said you can get the SURGERY at 5, which you cannot.
>>73610399
>ho posts pics of his dick on here all the time?
i dont think i post it very often but i have posted it before
>>73610399
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQZ-2iMUR0
Cheers mate. Giving it a watch right now
>>73610357
>This means that sex ed is now often after the start of puberty leaving children to find out on their own.
In America at least, sex Ed is taught at the same time for boys and girls. If I remeber correctly don't girls start and finish puberty befor the boys?
And if that's true then people have always been taught too late or too early
>>73610623
Guess you're right. Still, assuming such a thing as gender exists in empirical reality, it doesn't make sense for kids to have to a right to change it (gender is defined as the mental conception/ understanding of one's sex) while at the same time to be deemed unable to consent in nearly all other aspects
>>73610426
15 years old is around the time sexual identity is formed.
15 Year olds are still legally children, i don't agree in some ways but they are theoretically children.
>>73610893
>, it doesn't make sense for kids to have to a right to change it
you can only take puberty blockers at puberty and active changing hormones at 16.
Taking puberty blockers gives you the same effect as young gymnasts get with their intense training which stunts their puberty.
Here in Denmark, it's appropriate for parents to let kids (up until maybe 6 years old) be naked, for example at the beach, a holiday camp, a playground, etc. Pretty much anywhere where it's normal for kids to run around and have fun.
Most every American I know personally is not comfortable about this, when we have gone to the beach together. Just a fun little difference I have noticed.
>>73610696
Correct, Sex ed has been placed before high school/ secondary school due to the understanding that they ascend from "children" to "teens". However in my opinion (and many others) this would have been too early a few decades ago, and is now far too late.
Research suggests that puberty begins at age 9 in boys.
>>73611080
>Here in Denmark, it's appropriate for parents to let kids (up until maybe 6 years old) be naked, for example at the beach, a holiday camp, a playground, etc. Pretty much anywhere where it's normal for kids to run around and have fun.
that's because you are not surrounded by rapefugees
>>73611080
And that is perfectly acceptable, and is ironic of Western Culture. This culture teaches that children are seperated from sexuality, and have no right to it until they become an adult which is wrong.
Sexuality refers to more than how they look, but how they think and perceive others.
>>73607311
>letting children be children
children are the last people on earth that have any idea what it means to be a child, it never made sense to me why people say this shit
>>73611019
True, but you're talking about trying to change a child's (biological) sex
I'm talking about treating the kid as if he's the opposite sex, which has severe social and psychological impacts
>>73611393
The Question is; How do you know what sex a child is just by looking at them. If you dressed a boy as a girl for example, how would you know it was a boy?
>>73611367
This is written by adults. I surprised i have to point this out.
"Letting children be children" refers to the adult world having an impact on the lives of children. WE know what is was like to be a child, and should therefore use that knowledge to allow children to have a childhood.
>>73611093
So what is the long term solution, or the "end" goal?
>Finding the best time for the majority of kids to see it?
Because there will always be the outliers. For instance I've known girls who didn't get their first period till they were sixteen.
>>73607311
Sexuality = Being horny
Kids can't get horny, i.e. they aren't sexual. All of this stuff about kids being sexual is literally just pedos wishful thinking
>>73611564
>The Question is; How do you know what sex a child is just by looking at them. If you dressed a boy as a girl for example, how would you know it was a boy?
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We're long past the days we needed to look at a clothed child to determine its sex. Arguably we've never lived those ages
It's just play pretend anyway and sooner or later objective facts creep through the lies and the façade
>>73611628
Ofcourse, i completely agree. It needs to be taught at the same time for all, however i believe it's taught too late as children are exposed to sexual content from a young age.
>>73611732
And you're just naive, Sexuality is more than hormones.
Also another question.
How do you make young people aware and better understanding of their sexuality, without letting it get out of control?
What I mean by this are things like the marriage rates, divorce rates, and partner counts of people today. Which in many cases turns out to be not only damaging to the individual, but also to society.
>>73611834
Huh, so when you look at a friend or family members child that you've never met before you get the blood test out?
>>73612012
Make it less of a taboo subject. The idea of germs for example was hugely taboo until it was outed, and now it's common knowledge.
Children should be taught correctly before they feel the need to educate themselves incorrectly.
>>73612137
Nope, but the kid will eventually figure out basic biology and science, and the only way to keep them from going insane is to keep brainwashing them into believing there is such a thing as human genders
They might have gotten away with it before there was such a thing as science, and as part of a weird cult or religion
>>73612137
What he meant I think, was that there are definite ways of determining the sex of humans and all animals.
But I'm not sure how what you said validates anything.
>If I dress a chicken up like a duck, how do you know it's a chicken just by looking at it?
I know this isn't exactly parallel to what you said, but for me at least it sounds like a very similar kind of argument
But with modern science there are many many many ways to determine the sex of a person.
>>73612012
Also example A. That picture.
She's hot right? But in some senses objectified by herself and the company responsible. The attention she would attract convinces girls that they must conform to gain attraction... It's a vicious circle.
>>73612371
But we treat them as being A sexual. Children are perceived as having no sexuality, as they are innocent.
Children will ofcourse figure out basic biology, that happens from an incredibly young age physically. But there innate understanding is taught through education - usually too late.
>>73612576
Yes there are definite ways of determing sex. My question is, If you saw a toddler dressed in a blue t-shirt, jeans and trainers in a pram, how would you know what sex that child was?
>>73612274
I think there are almost certainly connections that can be made when looking at
>less shame and taboo around sex
>and the falling of the western world
Im not necessarily advocating we start shaming sex completely. But we need to be very careful how we continue to move forward.
The white birth rates must go up, divorce must go down, and marriage of some kind must go up for the mental wellbeing of the children.
>>73612725
No no no, dude
Your sex is one thing; your sexuality and/ or sexual orientation is another
The concept of gender used to only be applied to words and grammar before feminists started having their say
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender#Etymology_and_usage
>The modern academic sense of the word, in the context of social roles of men and women, dates from the work of John Money (1955), and was popularized and developed by the feminist movement from the 1970s onwards (see Feminism theory and gender studies below). The theory was that human nature is essentially epicene and social distinctions based on sex are arbitrarily constructed. Matters pertaining to this theoretical process of social construction were labelled matters of gender.
Your sex is merely what your chromosomes say it is, and it an objectively determinable empirical fact
Its weird, kids seem as sexual and perverted as ever but supposedly virginity is at an all time high because they all just watch porn I guess.
>>73612725
You're right. I couldn't know for sure. I would make a guess that it's a boy until new information was given to me. So you're right, but I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with it
>>73613404
>>73612725
I was saying there would be severe psychosocial damage if you try to play pretend your sex away as a toddler
He's saying that we can play pretend those problems away, as children haven't exhibited their secondary sex traits up until puberty
I was saying then that they would figure out their objective sex anyway, because they would learn basic biology and science eventually
>>73607311
'letting kids be kids' doesn't mean anything to kids themselves. By and large they want to grow up as fast as possible, because they don't idealise childhood in the same way adults do. The only people who care about it are adults who struggle to cope with life (i.e. most of them) and want to re-live their childhoods vicariously.
As it refers specifically to sexuality, it's just an extension of the general societal neuroses surrounding sex - all the people who obsess over whether children are being sexualised or not are, on some level, projecting their own fear of sexuality onto children. And a large part of this fear may well stem from the fear of adulthood mentioned above, since sexuality and adulthood are intimately linked.
it seems to me that a lot of people suffering from what you might call post-Peter Pan syndrome - they grew up all right (mentally as well as physically, unlike in Peter Pan syndrome), they just subconsciously resent it
>>73613267
I think it's because
>weak fathers, overbearing mothers, feminist society/teachers/media, ADD medication, video games, porn, artificial estrogens and things like it
Have made a large section of young boys very very insecure about being manly. And this leads to low self esteem. Which results in no sex (at least when we're talking about boys and men
>>73613670
I agree.
Boys should be taught to be boys and one day men. And girls should be taught to be girls and one day women.
>>73614041
as someon who is a tranny i was brought up by my father and mother to be a boy and they really did try to make me manly. It really doesnt help at all when you have a mental ilness in your brain that makes everything about being a man extremely uncomfortable and depressing. Its like having people force a pair of jeans 2 sizes too small on you all of your life and saying thats how its supposed to be.
Gender roles are not the reason why we have trannies, its a mental ilness caused from a birth defect.
>>73614041
Same. The thing is, as soon as the mass delusion bubble that lefties have created starts to burst, the so called transgendered people will go back to the same merciless reality that brought about their problems
The solution is adapting yourself to the fact that is your sex, not try to mutilate your body to give the appearance that you've managed to change reality
>>73613184
Okay sexuality is driven by sex.
Sexuality is more than the display of sexual nature, but the thinking behind it aswell.
I'm not meaning to talk about gender. I merely question how you would tell a boy from a girl just by looking at them?
A boy dressed in girls clothes would be perceived as a girl right?
This relates to the children look on the world, boys often relate pink to girls and blue to boys. It's taught behaviour.
>"Research Suggest that sexuality is a much broader term that relates to desires, ideas, actions, and way of thinking. Heather Montgomery Developmental Psychologist - Harvard.
Sexuality is a taught trait, children learn from others and copy what they perceive to be attractive or desired.
The objectification of women or men adds to this. Walk past a retail shop and you'll see dozens of images of half naked, good looking models.
Girls especially are affected by this content, often leading to early sexualisation.
>>73614041
I agree in some ways. However, this would be seen as "politcally incorrect".
The mother/father role has changed drastically over the past 50 years, women are no longer housewives, and fathers are not the only income of the household.
As a previous anon mentioned, knowledge should be passed from father to son, Mother to daughter. But with increasing divorce rates and parent divides, this just doesnt happen. Resulting in children becoming adults without the correct knowledge of the world.
>>73614311
I've heard about some studies where they gave potentially mtf transgendered people testosterone or something and they've had their symptoms reverse
Want me to look them up?
>>73614311
The question here is did you have the same inclination before full cognitive development?
It's common for children to be rebellious, and having an idea forced upon you could have been the cause?
I don't disagree with how you have decided to identify, that's your decision. My question is why exactly does this happen, we are socially and biologically predispositioned to act as a male or female. What causes a person to swap?
>A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. John Hopkins.
I don't see a problem. The legal age of consent should be 12
>>73614311
I would guess that what you're saying is correct. In that you're born with a brain that will one day lead you down that road, or you go through some kind of very painful and/or prolonged mental trouble. And that's how the vast majority of trannies come about.
That being said, we should still push being men on boys and being women on girls. If we don't, it may not create more trans sexuals, but it most likely will create more feminine men and masculine women.
>>73614882
>>73614371
Well most people may not be able to tell apart a typical boy from a girl before puberty and you can theoretically stop and "reverse" puberty as I've heard, agreed
But this demonstrable delusion depends only on both the child's and society's ignorance of basic science and, most importantly, on keeping with the feminist philosophy that there is such a thing a mental conception of one's sex (what is now called "gender") that is arbitrary and completely independent from what the sex factually and objectively is
>>73607311
Do kids really need a 25 year old bull around them?
>>73614530
Pimozide
>>73613184
Secondly, why is it that a males sexual desire is seen as normal. He becomes a "player"
Where as a females display of desire gets them labeled as impure.
Girls are sexualised far too early. They are forced to grow up.
Whereas boys aren't "Boys will be boys".
>>73609812
The only dumb thing here is that you think this somehow makes it ANY better.
>>73615029
Please explain.
>>73615048
>>73614311
Yeah that was it cheers
>>73614955
Noone here is that old most of us are barley legal
>>73615061
>Secondly, why is it that a males sexual desire is seen as normal. He becomes a "player"
>Where as a females display of desire gets them labeled as impure.
This tired old shit...listen faggot.
To be a player, you have to have game. You have to have patter, nice clothes, a fake job...etc
To be a slut, you need nothing. NOTHING!
There are fat ugly sluts out there.
There are no fat ugly players.
>>73614371
>However, this would be seen as "politcally incorrect". The mother/father role has changed drastically over the past 50 years,
And as we speak it's all falling apart. It's not a conspiracy, our countries are eating themselves from the inside out. If not in our lifetimes, then some time soon after them. And when it all falls apart i have no doubt in my mind that men will be men again and women will be women again. They will have to be, or they will die.
The "Political correctness" movement is a movement that needs the absence of struggle to survive. When people begin to suffer and struggle in the west even more than they do today. It will die
>>73615061
>Secondly, why is it that a males sexual desire is seen as normal. He becomes a "player"
>Where as a females display of desire gets them labeled as impure.
>Girls are sexualised far too early. They are forced to grow up.
>Whereas boys aren't "Boys will be boys".
You're using the leftie, paradoxical definition of "sexualised"
I've seen some of them use it when it comes to muslim girls being dressed modestly in hijabs and burkas etc.
I personally believe it is the boys who are sexualised; in your example at least
Girls are being told to not be whores (i.e. to NOT be sexual), and for good reason imho
>>73607311
>whites a minority again
The kikes are sexualizing pre pubescent children while simultaneously telling us that 16-18 year olds are somehow innocent children and shouldn't marry and that it's creepy.
That's how you kill the white birthrate. Nothing wrong with younger marriage.
The agenda is to delay mental maturity as long as possible for more indoctrination. There wasn't even such a thing as a teenager until the media created it. You used to be an adult who could marry and work by 16. But Hollywood and the government education system manufactured a whole phase of life where instead of becoming adults and learning a trade or marrying people are expected to have a phase of premarital sex and big university loan shekels.
100 years ago your parents would make you marry if you shacked up with your gf at 15. Now they actively tell you to never marry until you're 25 and there's no virgin partners left.
Then old "educated" women whine about where the good men went when the whole system that raises them creates 20 something manchildren by design.
Arranged marriage is one way to actually fix this. But realistically nothing short of collapse and destruction of modern technology would really do it.
>>73607311
>>>73612012
>Make it less of a taboo subject. The idea of germs for example was hugely taboo until it was outed, and now it's common knowledge.
>
>Children should be taught correctly before they feel the need to educate themselves incorrectly.
Yes but why should the state to be involved in the sexual education of my children? Why should the state tell my children about what is correct sexuality? My Religion well tell them everything they need to know. Is it not the rights of the parents to do so? Doesn't infringe on my rights to Religious Freedom?
>>73615623
>I personally believe it is the boys who are sexualised; in your example at least
>Girls are being told to not be whores (i.e. to NOT be sexual), and for good reason imho
Why is that fair?
>>73614329
>The solution is adapting yourself to the fact that is your sex
it's impossible to just snap your fingers and be somthing new. I mean to change gender completely would be an immense change to your entire body.
somthing like height can't be changed, and that's way more simple than changing your whole gender. Everything about you is already "coded" into you. You can create an artificial appearance, but your offspring won't have those artificial properties.
Like you said you must do the best with what you have
>>73612725
What about the schoolyard education? Isn't that's where boys are supposed to learn?
>>73616104
You get it.
Even from a non religious perspective compulsory education is abhorrent.
Sorry Germans but the Prussian system is where it all started though admittedly it didn't get that bad till Jews entered
>>73613857
Don't forget single mothers and single dads and the breakup of the family unit playing into this issue.
>>73616162
It's guess it's innate in our biological make up
>millions of sperm m80s
vs
>1 egg every now and then
You tell me which one's more valuable
Also, a stronger point is that evolutionarily a pregnant woman can only typically take care of a kid at a time
Whereas a Genghis Khan-type bull can spread his genes across fucking continents before he kicks the bucket
>>73607311
>>>73616104
>You get it.
>
>Even from a non religious perspective compulsory education is abhorrent.
>
>Sorry Germans but the Prussian system is where it all started though admittedly it didn't get that bad till Jews entered
the Prussian system had sex education back in its early days of infancy? That sounds interesting do you have a source or some more information?
>>73616397
Single biggest issue is technology and urbanization/suburbs .
>>73616234
Well I don't believe there is such a thing as gender
Which is typically defined like I said here >>73614994 - towards the end
I'd rather not use it and if I have to, I use it as a synonym for one's sex
>>73616234
>>73616631
>>I'd rather not use it and if I have to, I use it as a synonym for one's sex
Which you cannot change by the way
>>73607311
Didn't read the thread, but I remember there was some anon here recently posting information on children who committed horrendous crimes, and all of them were sexualized when they were young. The kids end up killing their younger sisters and raping their cats.
>>73607311
>>73616571
I disagree
Divorce is seen as no big deal. Divorce counselors and therapists of all kinds say "oh it's no big deal, the children will get over it eventually". But it leads to massive problems
Technology is a symptom.
In the past men and women were expected to do certain things.
If you had a family that depended on you. A loving wife who you weren't afraid would eventually divorce you. A job in which you'd work your way up and didn't have to worry about lay offs. 3 or 4 kids who respected you, and you loved. A community that would shame anyone who stepped out of line. And this kind of life was also the future your kids were going to have.
>would technology really be a problem?
>>73617316
Those expectations were destroyed by tech. Men no longer have to physically labor to put food on the table and the service economy is exactly what let's women compete for the same jobs as men. And household machines replaced women's housework.
And it was the industrial revolution and especially postwar technologies and corporate expansion and much of what came out of of that directly led to destruction of small scale tight knit communities.
The whole modern American pressure to love out as fast as possible to acquire money breaks up communities. Immigrants don't do this. They live close together for life.
>>73617610
*move out
But anyway the school and company are now surrogates for a real community.
>>73611732
I remember getting horny from reading a children's book where kids got squashed by some strange machine. Fucking weird but I was 9 and remember getting a boner from it.
>>73615061
girls are being forced to become men. they are shamed into thinking that their maternal instincts make them weak and unattractive
>>73617661
Apart from a socio-economical collapse like you said, do you see any solutions for building back that sense of community at a national level in the West?
>>73618064
famine and war. people don't bond when times are good
>>73617411
Tech has been taking away mens need to have strength since the very beginning. And about women being able to compete now, we just should have never let them. It flooded the job market and allowed companies to pay less. And as women started working, they stopped having as many kids. This results in immigrants. And immigrants allow companies to pay even less.
You do make a good point with household machines though. It's one of the reasons women were so insistent on getting mens jobs
>>73617610
>Immigrants don't do this.
That doesn't mean immigrants aren't part of the larger problem
>>73617862
>girls are being forced to become men. they are shamed into thinking that their maternal instincts make them weak and unattractive
Found it!
https://youtu.be/cF5UWzXzeGM?t=4m52s
>>73607311
Those don't look like children to me, fampai.
I personally feeel that they stop being eligible to be called "children" when the fuckers picks up a keyboard and start writing angsty shit on tumblr or reddit or /b/.
I dunno, maybe my perception of "childhood" is warped, but it is strongly associated with innocence. Yes, I know kids can sometimes be cruel, but usually that's out of ignorance and lack of experience.
Fuck that, I'm not calling come 15 years old gang member dindu "a child", nor am I willing to call a 14 years old slut that likes to get wasted on parties "a kid".
>>73607311
it's the american media. spreading cancer around the world.
>>73618355
>>73618821
You'd like it as well :^)
https://youtu.be/cF5UWzXzeGM?t=4m52s
>>73618959
>>73607311
also, it used to be worse in some ways, at least back then, they didn't pretend, and were honest about what was going on
>>73618141
Well at least you're not delusional
>>73614371
>
>I agree in some ways. However, this would be seen as "politcally incorrect".
The mother/father role has changed drastically over the past 50 years, women are no longer housewives, and fathers are not the only income of the household.
>As a previous anon mentioned, knowledge should be passed from father to son, Mother to daughter. But with increasing divorce rates and parent divides, this just doesnt happen. >Resulting in children becoming adults without the correct knowledge of the world.
Unless the parents are put in charge of the sexual education.
Why is there so much sex education and not education to be mothers and fathers? All this education is cultural contraception.
How well does this sex education go over with the Muslims or do sex educators only have the guts to culturally experiment on Whites & Christians?
>>73610955
>don't agree in some ways but they are theoretically children.
No they aren't they are adolescents/teenagers bridging between child and adulthood, calling them children is just a legal/government meme to steal them of all personal responsibility and falsely accuse anyone who goes near them sexually as a pedophile as no one knows or wants the complication of learning actual terminologies like ephebophile.
>>73618064
Not really given that most of what we call "the west" actively works against the family and community. I mean our very wealth, technology and advancements that most would call the pride of the white race are really what's destroying us. Things like the Internet and electricity for example.
This hurts me because I'm an engineer but I'm starting to conclude that the Amish are right. Once you read the Unabomber there's no going back.
If we still had an agrarian economy with small farms there would be next to no degeneracy organically (no need to enforce it with a surveillance state). On the family farm women and children and men all work side by side in their own appropriate ways and there's less idle time because they have to work to live.
And no a big war wouldn't be the fix. It would just make it worse just like WWII directly led to women entering the workforce while the good men died and enriched the military industrial complex.
>>73618355
Never said they weren't. But the ways immigrants live are ironically closer to the way whites used to live . Younger and or arranged marriage, women either don't work or if they do they still put family first,large families and more importantly close communities of neighbors .
That is until the lie of the American dream seduces them away from their traditions and into Babylon.
If I want to be more realistic and not an extreme Luddite then I would say at the very least America would need to fall apart into smaller states to see any sort of return to tradition
>>73619341
Parents need to take charge of all education not just sex education. Compulsory education got us into this mess.
>>73611732
I was mentally and consciously sexual around 8/9.
>>73619341
Parents have to give permission to the schools by signing papers. So the schools can't force anybody. At least here.
And why is there no education to be mothers and fathers?
>because that would be the support and unlawful spread of toxic masculinity, and the idea that women shouldn't become good little wage slaves all their lives.
Leave it to women to fight for the right to work long hours, get paid very little, and never have children.
>>73607311
>years ago
>volunteer with mother to help brother's middle school fair
>bobbing for apples, pin the tail on the donkey, raffles, etc
>talent show starts
>the same little girls who I just supervised bobbing for apples are now tweaking on stage
>10-12 year olds are shaking their asses while a song is talking about drugs, players, and sex
It was disgusting. I just watched those girls screeching about apples, and then they start shaking their asses. I doubt they even knew that they were being suggestive. Fucking terrible parents. Bad parenting is ruining the West
I dont really see where children get sexualised in the media, at least not in Germany
>>73620264
>I doubt they even knew that they were being suggestive.
That's where you're wrong
>>73619994
If you want to watch a whole tv series where they've semi-fictionally re-enacted what that period in the US' history was like
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOLemRsweo
Really did break my heart
>>73620474
Well you see moohamad, just because they don't show CP on the tv doesn't mean kids aren't being sexualized.
>>73620703
I didn't really count the pedoshit you engage in online as media.
>>73620692
really, the Great Depression days were probably the last great era of American families. 50's were great for a very short temporary period but really they were the beginning of the end, given that the kids from the 50's were the boomers
>>73620886
Oh, so you only count the in real life stuff
Like when your dad and older brothers fuck you and your younger sisters?
>>73621084
>in the media
pls learn to read jamal
>>73607311
Children wouldn't be so obsessed with sex if we didn't, as a society, place such a taboo on their sexual behavior. We'd probably have fewer pedophiles too.
>>73620977
America came out so far on top after ww2 that we could have prospered for hundreds of years.
But instead they gave it all away within a generation or two.
No greater crime has been committed against the American people than what those people after the war did
>>73620977
Guess we just have to work without that for the rest of our lives mate
We can only take care of ourselves at this point and our own families if we manage to keep it from crumbling in today's perverse world
>>73621141
See this:
>>73620886
>"I didn't really count..."
Just like you don't count when you fuck your brothers, sisters, and mother
>>73621224
Well with that genius line of reasoning, I declare we stop making Islam a taboo topic
Maybe if we stop they'll stop too. Right?
>>73621224
I think it's rather that we've stopped putting a taboo on them having sex among themselves and them fucking themselves
The only thing we've kept (lefties are working on it) is the taboo of them fucking adults
>>73607311
This little article might be helpful.
Pic related.
>>73621937
>>73622164
Oops forgot the article.
Straight straight anon.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/
>>73615048
THAT WAS A CASE STUDY OF ONE SINGLE PERSON HOLY SHIT /pol/ is beyond retarded
>>73622586
Chill bro sheesh
>>73622586
NOT TO MENTION primozode is NOT testosterone, giving someone MORE testosterone than they are supposed to have is extremely unhealthy, that was a case study of only 1 person and has only been shown to work on 1 person, and the person wasnt even a tranny, they had borderline personality disorder and THOUGHT they were a tranny
>>73622806
Then why are you so reclusive? Wouldn't you want to exhaust all possible options to live in line with your body?
Who knows what other research may be out there
>>73622806
>>73622586
Take a deep breath
>>73623198
>Then why are you so reclusive?
im not reclusive. Do you even know that word means?
What part of anything iv said ITT has anything to do with whether or not im isolated from the public or not.
>Wouldn't you want to exhaust all possible options to live in line with your body?
i did. 4 years of therapy with 4 different therapists and 2 endochronologists. I didnt get hormones until waiting for 2 years on a wait list.
>Who knows what other research may be out there
if you have evidence id love to see it. You dont because it doesnt exist. If there was a way to cure this mental ilness it would be all over the news because the way you become famous in science is to discover things.
>>73614530
ex-tranny here,
that happend to me
>>73623343
i dont know what that picture has anything to do with what i posted. Do you just assume every tranny you talk to is the same person?
>>73623534
uh huh except like i said that doesnt work because taking more tesosterone than average male level is extremely unhealthy for your body. I dont know why you would bother lying about that
>>73623559
No I just took a guess
There's a few Canadian trannies on here and one of them goes crazy all the time
>>73623693
also im guessing that picture is more than a few months old from the date saved. The fact that you saved that for so long is kinda sad really.
>>73623477
>im not reclusive
Recalcitrant rather I should have said
I've heard transgendered people have the same suicide rate after their biological interventions. If that's true, then why would it be worth considering them as a cure?
>>73614311
So you should have been aborted is what you are telling me?
I work with kids (pediatrician) and I think it is partly the fault of parents. Parents either tend to ignore gender roles for young children, or they press the opposite gender because they want to seem super tolerant. The second option is not very common. With sexuality, it seems that parents just ignore the puberty and sex discussion because there is somewhat of a taboo surrounding it. Parents assume kids can figure it out on their own. Before (pre-2000s) kids could be in the dark due to their parents wishes, but there weren't thousands of articles saying "trans kids R cool!" and the like. If parents sucked it up and actually talked (God forbid) to their kids, this issue would be miniscule.
>>73623857
>I've heard transgendered people have the same suicide rate after their biological interventions.
iv explained this so many times im going to make a copy pasta
1. A lot of retarded trannies will self med and not be followed by a doctor when taking hormones. This is extremely risky as they often give themselves the wrong levels of hormones or start off on way too high of a dosage which makes them go crazy.
2. Some trannies cant afford to take hormones indefinatly and often have to stop and start taking them when they run out of money. This fluctuation on their hormones is extremely bad for their physical and mental health and will make them extremely depressed. You are not supposed to stop taking hormones without being followed closely by a doctor but that doesnt stop some people.
3. The genital surgery is a complete farce and is literally just slicing up a penis and trying to make it look somewhat like labia. The end results never look like the photohops they post and when trannies realize they have been duped they are often very suicidal.
4. If you dont get the surgery done and are followed closely by a doctor during hormones your risk of suicide is MUCH LESS than people who do these things.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214623715000496
>>73624261
yes
>>73623652
I have low testosterone. I had to take it when I was young. Eventually I thought "I was a girl" and switched to estrogen. After a year of therapy and being on estrogen they tried increasing my test levels. Now I advocate against transgenderism because I know it's a load of shit
>>73607311
does raising my wife's son count?
>>73624379
>I have low testosterone.
the first thing they do when you go to see an endo is test your hormone levels. The endo would have realized your testosterone was low and given you more before EVER CONSIDERING estrogen.
You are not fooling anyone.
>>73624477
Yea okay I just have these two hormones because I stole them out of a trash can. What the fuck are you on about?
>>73607311
>psych student
You fucked up. Change your course right now or you'll regret it later.
>>73624265
Tbh I think "letting your kids figure most things out" is just a liberal excuse when you either can't be bothered or are incapable of raising your children other than financially providing for them
>>73624578
you havent proven anything and your story reads like a bunch of BS. Either prove that you used to be on estrogen because the doctor said you were trans or fuck off
>>73624696
NOT TO MENTION that even if what you are saying is true, it does not prove anything other than in your 1 particular case taking the opposite hormone worked. They literally tried that for decades on trannies and it only made them more suicidal
>>73624327
So you're saying your suicidal and other psychosocial problems have largely reduced after the treatment
By how much and what hasn't changed/ or has gotten worse?
>>73607311
>>73624696
I literally posted a pack of estrogen patches. I don't have my doctor's records of my hormone levels, that stays with my endo. I don't know what else you want to see from me, but I have a feeling it would never be enough because judging by your posts, you're dead set on not hearing a story that contradicts your own.
>>73619932
>adolescents
>teenagers
It's not a government meme. Those titles are to make sure that the kids don't get pissy about being called "children". There's no difference between a child and a "young adult".
>>73624921
>By how much and what hasn't changed/ or has gotten worse?
i went from thinking about suicide every day and being a self loathing NEET to a happy loving trap with a social life and a giant ego
It would be impossible for me to describe how much better i feel on hormones than without
there is literally nothing wrong with 12-yr-olds being sexualized.
>>73625350
What about side effects?
>>73625013
>>73625512
>>73625479
for the first 6 months or so i had really bad morning sickness symptoms that made me have to drop out of college. Thats about it.
Oh my sexuality completely did a 180 as well, i went from only liking men to only liking girls.
>>73607311
hi uncle anon only here, yet...
I'm concerned, I live very close to sweden and we get their TV shit here. These channels can ofc just be blocked(I don't watch TV it's worthless now).
Sweden used to be a very childfriendly country, producing a lot of very good folkish cartoons, tv shows, movies etc for kids. Very sound stuff, you couldn't compete with Thomas and Postman Pat even.
Today it's just degenerate filth. While we teach our kids not to have potty mouths when they are at that age, the swedes makes tv shows about penises and vaginas for children.....
And it is actually brainwashing them with politics, compared to the old who showed morals and decency a long side humor.
I am very concerned.
Children should be allowed to be just children.
When the time comes and they become teenagers they can learn a bit about this shit, but for the love of god this comes natural.
I find how the US deals with this deranged too
Sweden and the US has to be the worst
>>73625566
wtf who makes movies like that?
>>73625656
So you're straight?
>>73625828
We have similar tv here in canada. I don't think I'll be letting my kids watch public tv shows.
>>73625661
absolutely disgusting
MODS
>>73625905
I dunno. Someone said it was from some French movie, but I don't know the name of it or anything.
>>73625919
i guess if you want to look at it on a pure biological level i am a male who is attracted to females when taking female hormones.
>>73624615
I think it is bad parenting regardless of politics. There is an interesting correlation between sexual confusion and a few other aspects, but I doubt anyone cares to read my rambling.
>>73626261
I am curious. Before the thread ends, briefly surmise what made you uncomfortable about being male
>>73626274
Go ahead if you can do it before it archives
>>73626376
This is what people get banned over? How is this CP? I've seen worse in all kinds of kids clothings ads.
>>73626833
I guess this would be their line of reasoning:
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/155/Relative_Privation
>>73626978
Let's see how long it takes the mods to ban you now for reposting literally Facebook-tier family images.
>>73626274
What are the correlations
>>73626127
explain who this woman is and where i can find more of her please.
>>73626371
its hard to explain but it feels literally like being trapped in the wrong body. Facial hair feels like cancer growing on my face, a deep voice made me beyond suicidal, etc etc etc.
>>73627390
>it feels literally like being trapped in the wrong body
Does it help to know that you objectively aren't?
>>73627563
no. no matter how aware of the fact that its all in my head it doesnt change how it feels because most of it takes place on an unconscious and subconscious level that i cannot control
>>73628055
Well you might not be able to control it now, but who's to say you couldn't train yourself to do it?
You don't really believe psychological research is immune from political bias now do you?
>>73628235
>but who's to say you couldn't train yourself to do it?
decades of other trannies being forced to do so with little to 0 positive results tells me so.
You seem to be extremely naiive on this subject but they tried everything you are suggesting for YEARS before finally giving up and trying HRT
>>73628481
That's why I'm saying there may be extensive political bias having gone in the research
Try doing it yourself but with a mindset in which you actually believe it would work
>>73628681
>xtensive political bias having gone in the research
>i literally have no idea what im talking about: the post
when they started the research in the 50's and 60's is was politcally correct to do electroshock therapy on gay and transgender people and have them chemically castrated. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about or you would know the politcal bias would be the exact opposite of what you are suggesting as the politcal climate was the exact opposite of what it is now
>>73626505
I think my Wi-Fi hopped networks, dunno if that will mess with my ID. This is based off personal experience so it's not a good indicator of children overall, but here it is -
Kids who are more curious (asking about their bodies) tend to be more modest in regards to their parents being in the room. This is primarily in a 8-13 age range. Kids who are more aware aren't usually as shy. This might be because the boys aren't comfortable with a female (their mother) being present - you ask fewer sensitive questions because you have some issue with your mother hearing it. That is understandable, but I don't believe it has an exact correlation. Like I said in my earlier post, parents letting children learn on their own has negative effects. This also gives way to the idea of unaware children being more sexualized, both in peer and molestation situations. This isn't my speciality, but it seems like children who are confused are more likely to be in those situations. If you haven't seen a vagina before (or if you don't know they exist), you gravitate towards them if the situation arises. Likewise, young boys who don't know about puberty are more "fascinated" by boys or men who are mature. Tl;dr - kids are naturally curious and parents need to understand that. If kids aren't led in the right direction, they can easily stray off the path completely.
>>73626274
God damit answer
>>73628817
Well the bias dominating now a liberal bias
But I'm not saying your should shock yourself mate
Just work your way through that feeling you've described, no meds, no nothing except for the belief that you are actually gonna manage to do it
Keep that in mind if the meds ever loose their effect
>>73629249
>*is a liberal bias
>>73628817
I disagree. But if they quarantined the AIDS community when it began, much less gays would of died.
Now it affects both gays and straights regardless of their sexuality.
Why didn't they quarantine the men living with AIDS like ebola?
>>73629249
>Well the bias dominating now a liberal bias
and im telling you the research that was done when there WASNT A LIBERAL BIAS tells us that you cannot change most people away from being trans. Its like all of this board is beyond down syndrome retarded.
>>73625566
How can an actor partake in such scene?
>>73629454
they didnt realize how far aids had spread before it was wayyyy too late. You must be very underage but Aids really on surfaced in the 80s and no one really knew about it.
>>73616162
>fair
Wew lad. Didn't your parents ever tell you that life ain't fair? Only a cuck would care if something is fair, are you a cuck anon?
>>73628916
Got it mate, and agreed on the last part
>>73629455
Well they couldn't have had all possible research exhausted before post-modernism and social liberalism kicked in could they?
Regardless, I think you should bare what I said in mind
>>73630136
*bear
>>73618959
I really do not understand her appeal.
>>73609680
I warned all them about the slippery slope
They said I was wrong, and I was wrong indeed
It was not a slippery slope, it was a sheer drop
>>73607311
Isn't it common for kids around ages 6 - 8 to explore themselves and their friends or something?
Thing is they have no idea what the fuck they're doing and it's childhood curiosity. How the fuck does this translate to 'oh we should normalize pedophilia' to leftists?
>>73630918
I guess it's because, if paedophilia is a sexual orientation, and people of all sexual orientations have inherent rights by virtue of being a minority, then it eventually follows that even paedophiles would be deserving of the same right that, say, homosexuals are granted for the exact same reasons
>>73625919
That's definitely not straight anon.
>>73630472
Your great grandfather probably married your great grandmother when he was 20 and she 14.
That was normal since before time began
Now that will get you thrown in jail.
>>73631764
Anything's less fucked up than what we do to kids nowadays mate >>73611393 - pic
>>73625661
>>73626833
I think the issue is that the girl on his left seems to be touching his junk (and is smiling)
>>73619225
Good times. Shouldn't be that big of a deal, kids are naturally sexy. If they weren't, why would pedos exist?
>>73632080
pedophiles are a tiny exception to the normal population. this meme that every guy is a pedo is feminist propaganda
>>73632670
Depends what you mean by pedo. I doubt anyone would refuse a willing 12 year old (if there was no punishment)
>>73632794
>Hirschman
So what, we also have natural urges to kill and to rape, and yet we still have laws against them
>>73632794
>one study
>sample size and group unknown
also, it could be because it's a taboo thing now, not that they are actually attracted to children.
>>73632080
tfw you realize they will never re make Pretty Baby
>>73619994
My conclusions almost exactly anon.
Its not even about White genocide - the real problem is the falling apart of family life and its replacement with the worst excesses of consumer culture - its turned us in to materialistic beasts with no real tenderness or respect for ourselves or others,
>>73633161
2muchlibertarianismeven4me bruv
We didn't have a change to set up goal posts until this point m9. You were talking to another person
>>73632670
Depends what you mean, when a women starts bleeding she becomes sexually able and that means it's not wrong as far as nature to have sex with a girl.
the morality of whether or not sex affects the mind of a developing child is part of the reason why Pedophilia ends at 18.
Honestly, I think people should stay in their age group, any more than 3 years is not right and I consider it usually degenerate on one side or the other
>>73633458
>a chance*
>>73632058
perhaps you should take a closer look at that picture.
The blond girl on his right has her legs spread in lewd pose. The girl on his left has her right hand on his crotch.
That is CP and has no place on a 2016 /b/ post
>>73633463
>Pedophilia ends at 18
kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
>>73633345
I'm more interested in a proper Lolita remake with an actual 12 year old girl instead of old hags.
>>73633463
>as far as nature
since when is everything "natural" okay? since never.
>>73607311
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>>73634046
It's not okay,
I said that
Some people are just naturally sexual at a very young age, I know I was.
>>73614882
Agree. I wanna bang Bjorn
