I hate them all. Today I really hate the idea of mansplaining. It's a trick of the feminists that they even attack left wing men.
Which left wing ideas do you hate?
>>73606092
relativism
>>73606092
Racial, social, and cultural egalitarianism, especially when it's legally enforced.
>>73606092
Materialism
Egalitarianism
Jacobinism
Freedom
>>73606144
seconded.
>>73606237
I agree, morally wrong but not illegal?
>but don't you enjoy all the diverse foods?
but thats why they invented chefs
new york pizza tastes better than the original itallian
>>73606092
Multiculturalism
>>73607297
AND secularism
>>73606649
Why they morally wrong, Achmed?
>>73607781
Because greed kills,iam a celt.
>>73606144
>relativism
As in cultural relativism, moral relativism, or?
>>73606092
Destruction of the classical family unit and ignoring biological factors.
Engels argued that a relationship based on property rights and forced monogamy leads to immorality and prostitution. Engels also thought that monogamy would come naturally after the social revolution, which is hilarious.
>>73606092
Equality
>>73607340
>secularism is leftist
>wanting your government to dictate religious matters
W E W LAD
It's like you hate freedom or something.
None. U mad? All you retards hate lefties but the right has been in power for decades. Gee I wonder why the UK and US suck now.
>A system as an idea in itself.
For example the idea that political representatives can be bypassed via social media which will create an equitable, horizontal form of democracy that will solve all the world's problems.
In reality you need charismatic leaders with prescriptive IDEAS as to what should be done and expertise as to how to do it.
Examples of this going awry include the "revolutions" in the mid 00's in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia.... Occupy.... And aspects of the Arab spring (on occasion power vacuums were left they were easily exploitable by bad guys).
The young left are quick to criticize markets (and rightly so) but won't apply the same criticism to what is tantamount to an infantile view of democracy as a market.
By promoting a system instead of ideas they are rejecting politics in favour of some kind of bullshit managerialism.
I blame cybernetics, the ecology movement and silicone valley for all of this...... Basically hippies..... Fucking hippies
>>73608412
What does greed have to do with egalitarianism?
>>73608553
Freedom and separation of church and state are leftist ideas. America is a radical Jacobin experiment. Read as book Libertine.
>>73608765
>the right has been in power for decades
Oh my. Neocons aren't right wing.
>>73608895
I have always been a fan of small(er) boobs.
thanks to you, poster. btw, I like most things from Young's Brewery.
>not an Iron Maiden fan.
>>73608979
>I'm so far retarded that I don't understand that liberty is a politically neutral concept
W E W LADDEH
>>73606092
>Which left wing ideas do you hate?
The whole notion that 'diversity is our strength' (white man need not apply) but if you do try and embrace diversity you are quickly chastised for 'cultural appropriation'.
>>73608473
Destruction of the classical family unit can be attributed to capitalism. A bunch of 20yos on tumblr aren't capable of changing ingrained social norms. Maybe the classical family unit is being 'destroyed' because people have to fucking work all the time. And, as an aside who even cares?
>>73609073
Lol?
>>73609142
Liberty is a completely empty concept. It doesn't mean anything or hold any value. And it not politically neutral. Liberty is the rallying cry for every major left wing radical revolutionary group in recent history.
Duty > Liberty
>>73608468
they go hand in hand
I hate their tendency to make a point, get demolished then drag it down to "humour".
They use their terrible comedy to take a complex issue, strip it back then make a joke out of it. The joke is nearly always "look at how stupid people are who think differently to me" and its done in such a way that the morons sat at home watching it think HA HA LE FUNNY MAN MAKE JOKE BUT HES SERIOUS HA HA
>>73609354
Speaking of empty concepts, care to explain what duty is ?
I hate them all but today I really, really hate green activism. I've been watching it turn gridlocked Vancouver into an even more gridlocked Vancouver.
Yes, lets totally build green bike lanes to create even more congestion, which creates even more pollution!
IDIOTS
>>73609496
Responsibility to submit and obey some entity higher than yourself. Father, King, Church, Nation, God.
>>73609468
'Get demolished'? By who? some fat losers on 4chan? The left wingers I know are all normal, caring people with professional jobs. The right wingers are all young dumb virgin losers. They don't even have intellectuals, just misspelled nonsense arguments
>>73609352
You're definition of right wing is ignorant if you actually believe that the right has been in power over the last few decades. The right lost power some 300 years ago.
>>73609762
The right is in favour of inequality, destruction of the environment for profit, dismantling of unions, scapegoating of immigrants and doesn't care about poor people. That pretty much describes every government.
>>73609354
>I am so philosophically ignorant that I actually believe this
Read "On Liberty" by Mill.
Pic related, making fun of myself.
>>73609980
>right is in favour of inequality
True.
>destruction of the environment for profit
Nope.
>dismantling of unions
True.
>scapegoating of immigrants
False. Immigrants will be deported so we won't be able to scapegoat them.
>doesn't care about poor people
False. We just have a different method than nanny state leftists.
Don't assume that American Republicans/neocons are representative of the right wing.
>>73606092
Sugar coated Authoritarian beleifs
Your example is perfect
>turn something as simple as sitting into a chaotic movement
>>73610291
So by your definition, who/what has been in power for the last 300 years?
>>73610233
>reject liberalism's focus on liberty
>get recommended Comrade Mill
Utilitarianisms is bunk. Liberalism had massive victories and has reigned relatively unchallenged for 300 years. Are we happy with what she has made?
>philosophically ignorant
I know that I know nothing. I also know that liberal philosophers will advocate for Liberalism.
>>73610631
Liberalism/Jacobinism.
>>73610631
Communist marxist jews.
>>73610897
I would say corporatism combined with social conservatism. I don't know what you mean by liberalism. Maybe in name only.
>>73606092
>Economics isn't science
They are the real science deniers in politics.
>>73610855
>Utilitarianism is bunk
how so?
>>73611625
You think social conservatives are/were in power? While women are in the workplace, gays marry, drug use is rampant, and negros run amok? Corporatism I will grant. But social conservatives certainly are not in power. Unless you think Ronald Reagan a social conservative. As we know all social conservatizes institute no fault divorce and embrace universalism.
>I don't know what you mean by liberalism
Classical Liberalism (including libertarians, republicans, centrists) and her rabid brood, Communism and Progressivism.
>>73608895
You are my favourite /pol/tard of the week, Sir.
>>73606317
>liberalism
>freedom
choose one and only one.
>>73609558
In Boston, theres no more space for roads to be built and the government is too corrupt and inept to give us decent public transport. So, I bike to work and I'm glad that there are bike lanes for me to be in. Chances are you're just getting stuck behind other cars and you're just blaming the people who choose not to participate in that shitty system as they sail right by you.
I mean, you can't blame the other cars without also blaming yourself so why would you be surprised when you find yourself lashing out at things that have been proven not to delay traffic in the slightest?
Here's a tip: there are roads that don't have any bicycles or pedestrians on then, only cars. They're called freeways and they grind to a halt at rush hour because there are too many fucking people in cars trying to use them. Do you really want Vancouver to look like Houston, TX?
>>73611813
Dismal science.
>>73611920
Its just hedonism. And hedonism doesn't build great things. Pleasure is not the measure of man. And man is not the measure of all things.
Utilitarianism holds that whatever works out best for most men is "the good". It ignores the beneficial aspects of suffering and is largely materialist.
I find it distasteful and cowardly. The idea that our actions are defined by their consequences falls flat because we cannot take into account the infinite possible variables when we make the action.
Suppose Jew ash cured cancer. Would it be morally right to gas the Jews are cure cancer?
>>73612269
Neither.
>>73606092
relativism and equality of ends
Social justice.
It's true what they say about the road to hell and SJWs have been paving it with the force of six million road-workers. How "muh feelings" ever became an argument worth considering is beyond me.
>>73606092
Welfare. I just can't fucking wrap my mind around concept. "He who isn't working - will not eat."
>>73612303
The issue is that it never stops raining in Vancouver, and the bike lanes receive almost no traffic. The bike lanes used to be road lanes but were converted and now sit empty. Traffic has measurably increased. Vancouver has no significant freeways.
Feel free to research my city before telling me what it's like in a place you've never been.
>>73611977
Certainly they are. But I guess it depends on your perspective. Gays still can't marry in most countries, which from my perspective is extremely barbaric and abhorrent. Women have worked since the dawn of time. Drug use is heavily penalised in the US, to an irrational, extreme level. Institutionalised racism is apparent in most countries. And so on. I would say that there is currently a shift towards social progressivism in the West but it's certainly no ideal. Social conservatism will slowly be destroyed, but the plutocracy of corporatism remains.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt RE liberalism because we likely have different understandings. I will say that communism is virtually dead.
>>73606317
>materialism
more right-wing
>>73612670
There are more workers than jobs. What if people are disabled?
>>73612863
>which from my perspective is extremely barbaric and abhorrent.
Why? Marriage has a specific goal and purpose.
>Women have worked since the dawn of time
Not in male roles.
>Drug use is heavily penalised in the US, to an irrational, extreme level
You say that like its a bad thing. No lets let everyone do heroin. Or we could ask China how their opium pandemic panned out
>Institutionalised racism is apparent in most countries
How so? And even if you can show this why is it a bad thing?
>I would say that there is currently a shift towards social progressivism
No shit. If we took an average man off the street from 200 years ago he would be appalled at what the West has decayed into.
p.s. Please tell me why racism is bad.
>>73612983
Not greed. Materialism in the sense that all there is the material.
>>73612682
Kek, a quick look at a map shows there's highways all over vancouver. It's a major city, are you retarded?
I'm going to guess you don't actually live in Vancouver either. The only people in MA that have a problem with the bike lanes in Boston are the cunts who live out in Concord and think they should be able to speed downtown at 80mph and find a parking space within seconds. Simultaneously, they'll insist that I pay out the ass for extra car insurance and fuel because I made the choice to live closer to where I work.
Fortunately, they don't get to vote.
>>73613246
>p.s. Please tell me why racism is bad.
are you kidding me?
>>73613098
>There are more workers than jobs.
Bullshit, you're not looking hard enough. You can also self-employ yourself, it's much easier in these times.
>What if people are disabled?
Why do people have families?
>>73613331
No. Also please define racism.
So we need a definition of racism and an explanation of why that definition of racism is unhealthy.
Go.
>>73606144
You mean arguments like "but they have it worse than us so we should share" kind of bullshit? Yeah that pisses me off the most. I decide which people actually deserve part of my fucking wealth.
Social constructionism
>>73612543
I NEVER NOTICED THE FISHMOUTH BEFORE
There's got to be more. Does Jigglypuff have fishmouth?
>>73613864
wrong pic,
and indeed Trigglypuff has fishmouth..
>>73613301
I live in East Van and work in West Van. There's no freeway to take on my commuting route. Continue to tell me all about my city that I grew up in, that you've never been to, though.
Marxist materialism
Individualism
Egalitarianism
Secularism
Universalism
Feminism
Internationalism
>>73613467
Racism: Making negative judgments of others based on their race.
Being judgmental is part of human...no... biological nature in general. Trying to completely stop racism is a form of thought police but most extreme liberals are too naive to see the trap they're falling into.
>>73606092
All left wing ideas boil down to the idea that equality of outcomes is good. So hate - equality.
>>73606092
>>73613246
What right do you have to tell two people what they can't and can't do, providing they don't hurt anyone?
Why shouldn't women be allowed to work in 'male roles'?
The US drug war is extremely bad policy, even if you're against recreational drug use. It simply doesn't work. That's not an ideological comment it's a policy one.
Racism is bad because it's unjust and irrational. E.g: If you say something like blacks naturally incline to criminality, what you're saying from a scientific standpoint is that the amount of melanin in your skin directly correlates to criminal behaviour. Nonsense. There are good and bad people from all races. This is something you learn from common sense and life experience. I've met some great white people and some real pieces of shit white people. Same with every race.
The biggest problem with the right is antiquated beliefs combined with poor critical thinking skills. No offence.
justifying lawbreakers.
no it doesn't matter if he was starving.
no it doesn't matter if the environment he grew up in was shit.
no it doesn't matter if it was a one time thing or if he would never do it again.
if you are ready to suppress someone else's rights for your personal gain, you should be ready to lose your head.
>>73613467
The preferential treatment of your own genotype is natural and unavoidable. Kinship theory.
>>73613367
That's demonstrably true. As an individual, if you look hard enough you will likely find a job, due to the nature of employment in a market system. E.g, some people leave jobs temporarily, a spot is open and so on. However not everyone can mathematically have a job. This isn't a controversial statement.
Going from your right wing logic, why should individual family members be forced to care for their disabled relatives?
Welfare exists for a reason, and it's not because the government cares about people's welfare. It's because without it there would be a huge increase in crime and constant riots.
The Marxian socialist left and liberal-capitalist right are two sides of the same degenerate coin. Globalist, materialist, secular and anti-tradition. Corporations and the left all support the same social causes. Communists and capitalists can both rot.
>>73608473
>Engels also thought that monogamy would come naturally after the social revolution, which is hilarious.
True. Looking at the modern degenerate Marxists, most love the idea of polygamy and bash monogamous relationships. In which case their ideal society would have a beta uprising, 80% of men wouldn't make the effort if women were free to follow their hypergamous instincts. Monogamy is a cornerstone of civilisation.
>>73614540
Cognitive dissonance. The law is not always just.
if you're starving and the only way to get food is through crime, you're going to commit a crime. End of story.
>>73614970
It's very hard to starve in the first world.
despite the system meeting most people basic needs to survive some still feel entitled to other people's property. That is unacceptable
>>73614707
>However not everyone can mathematically have a job.
So? As long as one person can find a job and not die from the hunger in the process - it's fine.
>Going from your right wing logic, why should individual family members be forced to care for their disabled relatives?
They shouldn't be forced, of course. But people generally do that, because generally people care for their relatives and their health.
>It's because without it there would be a huge increase in crime and constant riots.
So you are admitting that your society is that dysfunctional? You then should do something about it, not redistribute wealth.
>>73606092
No no no nononono!!!
Leftist concepts that are being used against other leftists and are too insane even for other leftists are exactly what we need. We should embrace such concepts as whitesplaining and mansplaining and encourage the use of them against other leftists.
We don't have to worry about x-splaining being used against us because at least most of us reject their narratives and goals. It only hurts the left to turn the most extreme faction against the signaly whites and especially white males. They are the best at getting shit done, that's why it's good if they are being shut up by other leftists.
I love the concept of mansplaining and whitesplaining.
>>73614340
>equality
In theory but not always in practice.
Like the theories that blacks don't do well in school and are more likely to commit violent crimes because their feelings still hurt from slavery. Or that America, land of 100 million guns should just ban guns.
Instead of finding solutions they just yell white people bad! and then claim it's not racism.
>>73614970
>the law is not always right
what part of "suppressing someone else's rights" did you not understand?
>>73615148
Ok, point taken. So what's the solution?
Why is it morally wrong for a poor person with no opportunities to steal from a corporation, but it is morally acceptable for corporations and businesses to completely control the means of production, at the expense of working people? I think it is morally acceptable to steal from the extraordinarily wealthy.
>>73615148
>>73615222
That's absurd! If not everyone can mathematically have a job, how is it reasonable to let someone suffer through no fault of their own?
Of course it is that dysfunctional. The solution is to overthrow the government, drag out all the capitalists into the street and slit their throats. Until then, welfare is the only choice.
>>73614848
>mfw I agree with a brit.
fucking end of the world is near
>>73615362
None. What the fuck are you on about?
>>73615148
Lol right wingers are pushing for less and less welfare, and then bitch about increasing crime
>>73615543
>no fault of their own
It's individual's fault that he can't contribute to his society.
>The solution is to overthrow the government, drag out all the capitalists into the street and slit their throats.
Oh, I thought I was talking to someone reasonable. My mistake.
>>73615148
>It's very hard to starve in the first world.
It's surprisingly easy to freeze to death though.
>other people's property
That's cute anon. Can you even comprehend 30 billion USD? That's how much money the richest Canadian has. He could pay cash out of his pocket to have you assassinated and no one would even dare to even investigate.
It's about balance of power.
Their denial of basic biology.
>>73615704
The welfare state is a primary cause of crime.
>>73615365
When do the truly poor get close enough to the extraordinarily wealthy ?
Permitting petty crimes as some sort of economic equalizer would not take from the rich and give to the poor.
It would take from the law abiding poor and middle class. Maaaybe upper class but not Fortune 500 uperclass that are fucking the world.
And what kind of message does permitting crime for personal gain send?
>>73614848
Why is it that all you socially discarded Nazi virgins are so obsessed with tradition? that conservative society you idealise has rejected you. deal with it.
>>73615704
Do you see that fucking leaf buddy ?
We give half what we make to the system so the career criminals and do nothing's can breed us into extinction.
>>73615761
No it's not. If there are no jobs, there are no means to support oneself aside from living off accumulated capital or commiting crime.
You asked, I told you. I'm not going to apologise for being anti-capitalist.
>>73615894
You probably don't even have a science education. What do you know about biology? You probably work at a gas station or something, fuck off.
>>73616107
Actually, it's so that the wealthy can have a society that benefits them. If that means paying off the underclass, that's how it is.
>>73608412
>,iam a celt.
What ever you say Achmed
>>73615978
I agree. I'm saying that in my mind it can be morally justified. They (the poor criminal class) are more likely to steal from members of their own community, small businesses and so on. Nothing can be done about that, except for giving them a class consciousness, which is extraordinarily hard. There will always be an underclass so long as market systems exist.
>>73615985
The West hasn't been remotely conservative since 1789. Nazism was a product of the "fraternity" aspect of the Enlightenment, you blue pilled cuck.
>>73616761
Oh ok. Is that why every government is basically a plutocracy that exists only to support the wealthy? Is that why states constantly demonise workers and attack poorer states? Bullshit there's no conservatism. It's rampant. Virtually all major parties in all first world nations are right wing. That's why the world is finally going to shit, and all you mongoloid rejects can do is quack cuck cuck cuck and go home to your stepdads basement and jack it to MLP, wondering why you can't get laid.
>>73606092
What the hell is mansplaining?
>>73617173
You have the typical ignorant conception of what it is to be a rightist. Neoconservatism and corporatocracy, where international finance dominates everything, is not remotely right-wing. Wealth and materialist concerns are bourgeois concerns, nothing do with preserving the cultural and religious character of a nation. The demonisation of any class, workers of otherwise, is a problem of all political systems that can only be overcome through national collaboration. Mass immigration is utilised by both the left and corporations to destroy national homogeneity and function as cheap labour. I do not care about material concerns and the size of the GDP. It's constantly amusing how both make the same arguments in favour of immigration and progressivism. Of course, Marxism merely parallels this and teaches the masses to do the same in reverse, casting aside everything in favour of some specious internationalism where nothing matters but the faceless proletariat and labour.
I don't expect a puerile pleb such as you to understand this, but that's your problem.
We need a new age.
An age that reiterates the great wisdom of past enlightenment with renewed vigor. The cancer of the left and progressives has metastasized and threatens the body social and political.
The logical minds of our past argued, spilled blood and died for civilized ideals to flourish beyond the rot and disease of pseudo-intellectual degeneracy and feeble handed force.
The new age must dawn anons, and it's light must scorch the eyes of it's opponents, and leave them to wither.
