Soon.
>>73554831
>weak on immigration
trashed
immigration is the single most important issue in this election. no borders = no country.
>>73554912
Why are they weak on immigration?
Inb4 "Are you kidding me?" Try to think of an actual argument drumpf fag.
Why don't the "reasonable" conservatives go make their own party? One that entices moderates, fence-sitters and disenfranchised Democrats who don't give a fuck about the environment?
>>73555177
Anything short of building a wall + mass deportation is weak on immigration
This is straight off of the cuck's website
>Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson understands immigration. He understands that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.
Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified and secure system of work visas by which willing workers and willing employers can meet in a robust labor marketplace efficiently and economically. Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S. legally will provide the greatest security possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its time and resources on the criminals and bad actors who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of those who are today entering the country illegally.
Jesus christ what a fucking pandering delusional cuck
>>73555351
The funniest part is that literally none of the people they think should be allowed to "seek work" in the US is or ever will be libertarian. Their ideology is self-defeating.
This would never work
Rand is a conservative and Gary's a liberal.
>>73555351
Rand is strict on immigration he just doesn't think we should build a wall, but we should enforce the border
>>73555474
An ideology doesn't neccesarily need to cultivate its own voterbase, but it does to be viable. If those people really do benefit from libretarian policies, then of course they would vote for a libretarian.
>>73555351
>a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential
>give me cheap beaner labor and put Americans out of work
>>73555635
>If those people really do benefit from libretarian policies, then of course they would vote for a libretarian.
There's a reason third-world countries are authoritarian hellholes. Libertarianism, personal freedom and autonomy, limited government, these are all ideals exclusive to white men.
I'm all for having a libertarian society but unlike these pollyannas I know that only works when immigration doesn't happen.
>>73554831
No one is being paid to shill for Hillary by the way. It's a Republican-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear her campaign.
>>73555635
It does need to cultivate a voterbase in order to be viable for more than one generation. If I had a political ideology that demanded the believers commit suicide, then the ideology would fade very quickly. If an ideology fails to perpetuate itself, then it is a zombie ideology. The people who come here seeking work are most likely going to be blue collar workers. When they come here in search of higher wages, the wages will lower, but it will take time for prices to drop accordingly. They will then vote for welfare candidates and destroy the libertarian ideology.
>>73554831
FUCK ROADS
>>73555351
>Jesus christ what a fucking pandering delusional cuck
Lmao "Everyone I disagree with is a cuck"
It looks like Someone is thoroughly hurt by the anal penetration from the Johnson.
>>73554831
Does anyone else think Gary looks like a bird?
>>73555351
> wall meme
>>73556428
He didn't imply he was a cuck because he disagreed with him. He implied that Johnson is a cuck because he wants to have open borders. Open borders will allow people who have no respect for the tradition of truth seeking, liberty, and property rights to come in and make this country like the one they came from. Do you really want mexicans who have allowed a corrupt government to fund and abed a cartel to become citizens and vote for people who were like their old government?
That is a recipe for disaster that will permanently eliminate any chance for a libertarian society in the future. There is more to immigration than economics.
>>73556518
It's his nose
>>73555725
> white supremacists crying for big government to protect white race cus aryan cucks cant compete with other races
>>73555952
I agree. I started out as a libertarian with some ancap tendencies, but now, I don't think we can achieve those things with what we've done. Libertarianism must be protected and kept internal, unless we wish foreigners to take away our libertarian rights.
The more they've traded this nation away, the farther right towards fascism I go. I have the feeling that there is no other way right now. I want libertarianism, but I feel like I have to do some very, very terrible things to achieve it at this point.
STAY STRONG BROTHERS
Ignore the shills and keep dropping those redpills.
>>73556887
>an American siding with Mexicans over Americans
Disgusting no matter what race you are
>>73556205
STATE GOVERNMENT
Read the constitution
>>73556887
Which countries allow immigration without restriction? Are any countries who don't afraid of "not being able to compete with whitey". In places such as the phillipines, you can't own real estate as a foreigner. Which countries in the world allow a true free market like the one you are proposing?
If we allow ourselves to have that free market while no one else does, the only free thing we'll get is being freely taken advantage of.
>>73556765
>>73557288
Do you want to fuck Kanbaru's dyke titties?
>>73554831
Gary Johnson is the rightful political son of Ron Paul.
Rand is just a regular Republican manlet
>>73557417
I want to fuck Kanbaru's everything, but I especially love her midriff.
The most lovely part of her is her [spoiler]smile[/spoiler]
>>73557052
Im Mexican
Im not just arguing for mexicans, come to southern californian high school and watch how all the children of white cucks are getting devistated by children of asians and other immigrants
>>73557288
> cuck not understanding concept of competition
>>73557595
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/03/mexicos-illegals-laws-tougher-than-arizonas/?page=all
So if wanting immigration laws=fear of better individuals replacing you wouldn't countries like China, Japan, and Korea who are highly homogenous, in part because of their immigration laws, be more afraid of superior foreigners?
Shills are switching to lolbertarians now that we've btfo Hillary.
>>73554831
I just wish Ron Paul were back. If any of you faggots haven't read his books, you really should. Torrent them if you think this is some kind of ad, but they really have a lot of good points and are an interesting read.
>>73557781
Explain your perception of what competition means. These countries have laws to prevent foreigners from coming in that are more strict than the US? And USA citizens wanting stricter immigration laws means that they are "afraid of competition"?
So how aren't these countries more afraid of competition than we are?
>>73557867
>>73558043
Read the cucks original argument
>>73555725
>>73554831
Austin Petersen may just get the nomination!
>>73557867
>>73558043
Asians ARE superior to everyone else. Who would want to invite LESS productive citizens? Immigrants to America are often above the US average. Immigrants to countries like China and Japan are often below their respective averages. How can you continue to wonder why these countries deserve different immigration laws?
>>73558608
I wasn't responding to his argument you retard. I was responding to yours which was
>> white supremacists crying for big government to protect white race cus aryan cucks cant compete with other races
And I responded with saying that these other races are more afraid of us than we are of them because they have far stricter immigration laws. In fact, one could argue our superior culture has manifested itself in such a way that we have been unafraid of the inferiors such as yourself. Thus letting you in knowing just how pathetic you are. Only by outbreeding us like insects have you had any chance to compete, but by doing so you reduce your own chance for prosperity. How disgusting.
>>73558952
>weaboo with a dyke for a waifu calling anyone disgusting
>>73558924
They are not superior to everyone else. This clearly manifests in the form of their permissiveness of corruption in the favor of social cohesion. They allow a corrupt bureaucracy to hold sway over them and, ultimately, make decisions that end up being against their own interest. In addition their close-mindedness has lead them to passing up opportunities that would have lead them to greatness. Their desire for stability lead to complacency and ultimately being subjugated on a global scale by Europe and America. During the 1400s (I think) they had an admiral for their navy who was muslim who wished to go out and explore the world. They denied him on the basis that China was already better than everyone else. Europe then conquered the world while they isolated themselves.
>>73555351
wew
Can't wait for the one anti Johnson ad that will destroy his campaign
>>73559266
>They allow a corrupt bureaucracy to hold sway over them and, ultimately, make decisions that end up being against their own interest.
Were this Jeopardy, the correct answer would be "What are Americans?"
>>73554831
Hi /pol/,
I am an insider working with Roger Stone. Stone has informed his staff that Hillary and her campaign strategists plan to split the Republican vote by promoting Gary Johnson. This is why you are seeing a greater coverage of the Libertarian candidate on MSM news.
Please ignore these Johnson threads. Copy pasta this text and share with other /pol/ members in any Shill Johnson threads that appear.
Sincerely,
Anon
>>73559382
That has been happening, but the chinese have made it part of their tradition, while Europe has a tradition of overthrowing such bureaucracies. The mandate of heaven is the epitomizing of shitty Chinese government and all the relevant East Asian countries derive their government from the exact same model.
In conclusion they are incomparable and you are a tremendous and overwhelmingly huge faggot, unless you are doing this solely so we can post Monkey without getting banned.
>>73558952
You were asking me to explain my arguments which was a response to this cucks argument
>>73555725
If you want to understand my argument you need to look at it in the context that it was made
> you retard
Atleast im not a weeb
>>73555351
KEK KEK KEK KEK
KEKADOODLEDOOO
KEKS BTFO
>>73559683
I asked you to explain your definition of competition. No habla ingles pedro?
>Atleast im not a weeb
Oh boy. Call him a weeb when my brain runs out of tacos to throw at him! This will definitely stop him from winning the argument.
>>73559637
You would accuse me of half-assing an argument I have neither personal stakes in nor researched, articulated stances on just for the sake of posting a cute anime lesbian?
I can neither confirm nor deny.
>>73560081
If you cannot confirm or deny I suppose I will just have a cute, aforementioned anime lesbian interrogate you. You see that look she has in her eyes in the right most picture of her? That means she's going to try out what she just read in BL doujin in order to get an answer out of you. I'd be careful and pick a side real quickly anon.
>>73555725
theres nothing wrong with this unless your skills are equivalent to those of a Mexican
>>73557555
Austin Petersen.
>>73560438
/thread
>>73554831
Rand stated he will support Trump, idiot.
>>73554912
This. Thank you. Rand paul could get it in that pretty mouth though. Just no running the country.
>>73560416
I will only admit that were this dyke real, I would obliterate her vagina so completely that no woman could ever fancy it.
>>73560438
Even if it doesn't affect me individually in a poor way it leads to negative consequences for the nation when foreigners lower wages for the working class, preventing them from attaining middle class status, and thus not allowing them to have improved levels of consumption of more middle class goods such as homes and recreation equipment. In addition it causes children of working poor families to remain working poor and thus have poorer education which would lower the intelligence of the country as a whole. The periods in time where the common individual was most well off comparative to the upper classes was during time periods where labor supply was lower such as after the black death decimated europe or after the world wars.
Lastly, arguing from a point of "self-interest" is not only naive as explained above, it is a poor determination of good policy because what benefits the country may not benefit you as an individual.
>>73560796
I suppose that means she will be obligated to forcibly give you a rim job. Better than the prostate massage initially planned by her. I suppose your partial honesty spared you the more intense of the two options.
>>73559879
> libertarian board
> explain competition
My apologies, i forgot that constant masturbation to fetish porn causes degenerates to have a hard time retaining basic information
If you are not capable of understanding the basic aspects of free markets, supply and demand and capitalism i am afraid that the continuation of this argument will lead to nowhere due to the fact that it is impossible to win a debate with an idiot
>>73554831
Literary God-tier
>>73561778
>>73561778
>>73561778
This isn't a "libertarian board" this is a "politically incorrect" board. You can make your own board at 8gag if you want a circlejerk.
You calling me a retard is not substitute for making an argument. You are substituting making a cohesive argument, such as I've been all fucking thread, with saying "he's a retard so I don't have to explain myself". This is otherwise known as ad hominem.
>>73554831
Stop trying to move /pol/ away from Trump. We have invested too many memes into his campaign. These two don't have enough time to make a dent in the election results. It's Trump or a new dark ages. Pick your side.
>>73560728
I'm weirdly attracted to rand
>>73563010
>>73563010
>>73563010
I did not make an ad hominem, inorder for an statement to be a logical fallacy it must be irrelavent and hold no link to the argument
The fact that you are a degenerate weeb is not an ad hominem because it is relevant to this debate
Your constant masturbation to hentai has caused you to have problems understanding basic ideas which are not clearly stated infront of you, inother words tenticle porn has decreased your problem solving skills which has made you unable to understand what competition is in context of a liberterian discussion or even understand that when i said liberterian board i was referring to the fact that this is a libertarian thread
> it isn't "8gag" its "9"gag
>all of the these ass-roasted trump normies
