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Vote to be left the fuck alone edition
REMINDER, BECOME A LIBERTARIAN:
https://garyjohnson2016.com/

Libertarian Party Videos:
>NeverTrump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxMb9t4IW4 [Embed]
>After the Bern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nee3Ig7zupY [Embed]

NEWS:
>Could Gary Johnson Be Our Next President?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/05/could-gary-johnson-be-our-next-president.php
>Gary Johnson Pitches Himself as Independents' Choice for President
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/08/gary-johnson-pitches-himself-as-independ
>Libertarian presidential hopeful Gary Johnson now wooing undecided Republican voters
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/2/gary-johnson-now-wooing-undecided-republican-voter/

INTERVIEWS:
>With George Stephanopoulos on ABC:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gary-johnson-2016-race-real-opportunity-libertarian-party/story?id=38956151
>With Penn Jillette:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUETegSwWc8 [Embed]
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JUST
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Don't forget his slogan...

FEEL THE JOHNSON
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>>73547733
FUCK MY NON-ARGUMENTS UP
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>>73547584
We need to spread the message onto the Trump threads
>>73545289
Make Trump Threads Johnson Threads
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>>73548074
We also need to target the Trump and Bernie subreddits. Try the Hillary ones, but our best bet is to unite the fractured base so we can take the Shillary once united.
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>>73547584

Daily reminder that a cornerstone of the libertarian ideology is to allow people who are not and will never be libertarian to enter our nation. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
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Should be Libertarian general. Will ex-Cruz supporters propel Petersen into the nomination?
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>>73547584

this is an 18+ board
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please dont shill for that effeminate open borders dude weed peddling cuck here
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Why oh why did I ever vote for this dude in 2012 without even watching him speak

Holy shit he's the definition of goofus
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>>73547733
FUCK
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>le sell out the american people with cheap labor hordes

love this meme candidate
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>>73547584
How much does hillary pay you to do this?
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>>73548276
Are you sure?
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>>73548331
>please dont shill for that effeminate open borders dude weed peddling cuck here
This has nothing to do with anything. They're just shilling to split the vote.
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>>73548074
Yes, but we need to take a book from both trumpcucks and the jews and be more subversive about it.
Undo them from the inside. Moreover, winning over /pol/ is only a major battle in the entire war.
Having /pol/ commited to the libertarian ideals is only good because it can easily mass produce memes to spread across the internet. However, in the meantime we need to begin spreading pro-libertarian stuff across the rest of the internet.
Spread the mesaage and people will hear it, and most people would love to be left alone.
Also, Hoppe can be used to counter complaints that all libertarians are degenrate open border globalists, and bastiat BTFO's statists.

I might add a link to a PDF of the Law to the OP copypasta
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>>73548412
>let's use the government to protect the superior white master race because they can't compete in a free society

i can strawman too

>>73548481
Trump doesn't need a unified right wing, remember? All the minorities and women are voting for him!
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>>73548378
Yeah, but he's the most successful one we have.
We get him in and it opens the road to people like based McAffe and Austin, lord of the bants
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>>73547584
Say "Hi!" to Shillary's campaign manager for me!
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Austin Petersen is superior to Johnson.
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>>73548499
forget the ideological shit, that takes way too much time. In order to ensure the maximum effect of conservative consensus splintering, we need to force Johnson down the throats of any right-leaning posters. We need to drown out Trump and make Johnson undeniable.
We don't have enough time, we need to act quickly.
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do libertarians actually not know about the spoiler effect or do they just pretend it doesn't exist?
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>>73547584
>voting for Hillary Clinton
Fuck off.
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>>73548422
>implying we would support a neo-con staist whore
We libertarians just want to be left the fuck alone.
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>>73548654
Trump has literally been planted to the Republican Party to guarantee Hilary victory

>tranny lover
>Soros shill
>Cucked by Israel
>backtracking on almost every policy
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He is for open borders, one of his quotes was, open the border and let the Mexicans flood in.

He claims to be liberation but he was all for the people who sued for not getting a cake made for their religion.

Libertarian who dosent believe in freedom of business.

WAKE UP FAGGOTS

HE IS A BAD LIBERTARIAN
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>>73548591
>free society
>this means your country's labor force = the world's labor force

nice meme
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>>73547584
GO DEEP WITH JOHNSON
TAKE A RIDE ON THE JOHNSON TRAIN
SOME THINGS IN LIFE ARE TOUGH TO SWALLOW, VOTE JOHNSON
PUSH BACK WITH JOHNSON
SEE THAT VICTORY!! TAKE IT ALL IN WITH JOHNSON
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>>73548899
At least he isn't a Trump
That alone is worth a vote for Johnson

Are Cruz and Rubio forums still alive? Berniefags will join us, but we need to focus on winning over Republicans and true conservatives to prevent them from going Trump by default or not voting at all.
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>>73548899
Freedom of business is not infringing upon freedom to conduct business based on religious bullshit
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>>73548859
>faggot poster P12AhNCI wants to dick check every tranny that goes to the restroom
>faggot poster P12AhNCI doesn't know about self funding
>faggot poster P12AhNCI thinks Jews are only involved with Republicans
>faggot poster P12AhNCI doesn't have reading comprehension, or the mental capacity to understand what basic positions are
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>You need a license and extensive training and testing to own and operate a vehicle

>If you suggest the same level of oversight for owning devices specifically made to kill things, you're considered a big-government lickspittle.

Fuck this gay earth

[and everyone on it]
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>>73548591

That's true, why should any Trumpist care if a few voters go Libertarian
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>>73547584
FUCK OFF SHILL,
GARY JOHNSON IS BASICALLY HILLARY
DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM
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>>73548739
>forget the idealogical shit.
No. Fuck off. Go burn in hell.
This isn't about splitting the vote, and if that's all it is to you, you really are nothing better than a Hillary shill.
This is 100% about idealogy, about getting america back to what the founder wanted. Anout reducing the fed. About restoring america and the true american dream.
If you're just in it to sow devision and deceit, then you can politely go fuck off, die, and have every opening you have, even your urethra, raped by satan.
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>>73549043
He's not self funding anymore. As soon as he locked in the nomination he surrounded himself with Goldman Sachs guys on his campaign funding team. Coincidence?
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>>73549030
New Trump thread
Spread the Will of Johnson!
Make Trump Generals Johnson Generals!
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>>73549058
Show me that 29th ammendment that codifies the right to keep and bear a Corolla?
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>>73547584

One candidate is an obese reality tv blowhard who inherited his wealth, is a closet New York libtard, sold his hot daughter to the Jews, never held public office, and can't answer a single question without shouting memes. He calls everyone low energy while he sits on his ass and eats cheeseburgers.

The other candidate was a successful governor with consistent ideological positions. Instead of sitting on his fat ass and talking about how high his energy is, he snacks on cashews while climbing Mt. Everest.

How exactly is Zion Don supposed to compete again?
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>>73548423
pic related typical Johnson supporter
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>>73548839
>statist cucks trying to fight freedom.
Don't you have a bunch of YUGE walls to build for your cuckshed?
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> implying this isn't hillary shills trying to divide a voter base.
No one is actually retarded enough to believe a libertarian has a chance.
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>>73549113
Guys, this is about way more than just splitting the vote! We cannot possibly win, but so what?
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>>73549252
It's not about having a chance.
It's about doing whats right, even if everyone else disagrees.
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>>73549113
We don't have time for this argument
Every second wasted is a on-the-fence voter going Trump
Just spread the Johnson message far and wide, don't think about the "whys", just the "hows"
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>>73549202

You're not in a militia, and you're definitely not well-regulated.
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>>73549306
>even if everyone else disagrees
sometime you're just being a retard
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>2016
>Thinking Libertarian Party candidate can capture over 2% of votes
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>>73548899

It is mostly Hill-Shills trying to engineer a vote split here. Libertardians will never get a candidate in at this point. Most on the left know this. They used this in the Virginia gov race.

I would take Bernie over Hillary. I would love to see a Libertarian candidate. But this is just insincerity. These are all Hillary fags. It looks like it will be a race between Trump and Shillery. I will vote for Trump.

I will never vote for Hillary. Or another Dem. Not for a very long time. They have gone extremist. They will shit on our rights. They will sell us out to the rest of the world.

They must be stopped.

Stroke-Softly, Strokechan.
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>>73549252
Libertarians aren't part of Trump's voting base.

>>73549365
then why is everyone ITT so nervous?
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>>73549026
TEXAS HERE

OUR BORDERS ARE GETTING DEMOLISHED AND YOU DONT EVEN CARE

FUCK YOU, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING HILLARY THE VOTE
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>>73549371
>desperate Trumpshill masquerading as a Berncuck
top kek
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>>73549414
>Libertarians aren't part of Trump's voting base.
Or anyone's voting base really.
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>>73549043
>tranny shillary shill is a tranny lover
>tranny shillary shill is a soros shill
>tranny shillary shill is also mega-cucked by Jews
>tranny shillary shill has literally been brainwashed
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>>73549414
I voted for Johnson in 2012. I stopped being retarded after that. Just trying to help you out.
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I didn't know the guy from ncis was running for pres...

shit show, hope he does a better job campaigning than acting
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>>73549307
>We don't have time for this argument
No. There's always time for this arguement.
> don't think about the "whys", just the "hows"
The why's are the only thing that matters. The only thing we can truly 100% control is our will. They why. And we must make that will, that why, good. I won't shill to split the vote, only voice my support to fight for freedom.
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>>73549432
>FUCK YOU, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING HILLARY THE VOTE
FUCK YOU, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING A FALSE CONSERVATIVE A WASTED VOTE
TRUMP IS NOT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE, HE'S A FUCKING LIBERAL PLAYING YOU KEKS LIKE A FIDDLE
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>>73547584
Even Bernie has a better fucking chance.
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>Libertarianism
>Not a child's political ideology.

Enjoy America going downhill. I hope voting for tax cuts and "muh marijuana" are worth it.
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>>73549432

But he doesn't need a unified party to win, the man said it himself. Johnson is no threat to trump.
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>>73549432
As a fellow texan, I would like to point out that the Fed was what stopped abbott from securing our border. And federal welfare, and the horrible texas public education laws, is what causes illegals to come here in the first place.
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>>73549540
AT LEAST HE DOSENT OPENLY SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS
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>>73549522
>only voice my support to fight for freedom.
Then make it louder than the voices seeking to drown freedom in the name of "Making America Great Again"
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>>73547584

Johnson needs to step out this time (he can't win this election, and can only fuck up Trump), he's the next step to come after the people get 8 years of MAGA, but he's not meant to be running the show yet.

We've got housecleaning that needs to be done, and the fact that the media is even talking about GJ is just more "let's take the attention off Trump" shit, it's not that he's viable, rather, he's just part of the GOP's plan to keep putting a stick in the spokes of the intended course that we need to get away from liberalism ASAP.

I'm fine with a libertarian candidate AFTER we get shit better, but we don't need another "fuck borders and laws and shit" candidate in the game at this point, because after 8 years of MAGA, he'll certainly bend on a few things that the people will demand of future leadership.
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>>73549414
>shill for Cruz with /RatGenerals/
>fail
>shill for Hillary /shillgenerals/
>fail
>now trying the Lolbertarian meme
Mods need to range ban Canada.
I hope your country burns to the ground
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You really think you're gonna get bernouts to switch to the libertarian party?

I don't care what Johnson says, this party mainly pulls from Rs and makes it easier for Ds to win big elections.

I am a libertarian of sorts, but there is plenty I don't agree with them on as well. Open boarders is the biggest one and they are delusional if they think they are going to end the welfare state when there is a built in huge cohort of people who will vote for gibs.

Just face it, Democracy (Republic for those who understand the difference) is a failed experiment on such a huge level. It will always succumb the masses who want to be taken care of at the expensive of everyone else and create an Oligarchy, which is readily apparent.

Would I like to live in sensible libertarian country? Yes. Do I think it's possible for the US to be one? Not a chance.
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>>73549437


Sorry but that's my thoughts on it. Bern will fizzle out. He will not get the nomination. This means I will have to vote against Clinton. Never Clinton.

This is it. Trump gets my vote because he is not Clinton.
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Reminder that voting Libertarian is like throwing your vote in the trash
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>>73549432
Why do you believe Trump cares about the border? Almost everything other than his immigration and tax policies are shit, both of which he says are negotiable.

>>73549505
I voted for him too (I work in Calgary right now, I'm from solid red Nebraska originally). I couldn't vote for Romney on principle because he's a big government liberal, I was told I was voting for Obama. I didn't see much of a real difference between them.
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>>73549363
I don't care. I won't give up just because the majority tells me to move.
I'll plant my self firmly and tell them to move.

And moreover, statists are the retards. Read a book nigger, something like the law or some Hoppe
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>>73549540

True Conservatism (TM) is a shit-tier ideology that has done 0 good.

It's conserved nothing, and has capitulated to the left over and over again. Also, there are far more important issues facing the nation than how high taxes are.

If I wanted to live in a country with low taxes and no regard for the health of the nation, I'd be packing my bags for Somalia.

If you were a Briton, you'd vote Conservative over UKIP, you cuck.
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>>73549700
You fool, by voting Trump, you're directly ensuring 8 years of Clinton. Trump is a Clinton plant. This is not even a secret or conspiracy anymore. Trump is a DNC plant. They won by shutting out the true conservatives.
We need to dump the Trump and go for the next best choice.
Webb ain't running, nor is Mattis. Johnson is the only choice right now and he has the momentum.
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>>73549705
Only because people don't vote libertarian because they think that it's throwing away their vote.
Voting for the lesser of two evils is a horrible argument. You should vote for what you believe.
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>>73549705

This. They used this shit during the Virginia race. It resulted in a Dem winning when the Republican would have won, given the circumstances. No-one wanted either candidate. And I don't want Hillary.

Trump gets my vote.
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>>73549825

Thank you, but I want to vote for someone that has a chance to actually win.
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Fuck off shills, this is a trump board
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>>73549625
NOT AN ISSUE IF WE GET RID OF WELFARE.
ALSO, READ HOPPE
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>>73549743
Libertarians need to realize that not everyone can handle the responsibility that comes with freedom, and that their political beliefs are beneficial for some individuals but bad for society as a whole.

Don't waste your vote, buddy.
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>>73549952

You fucking douche bags ruined pol. fuck off.
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Looks like /pol is smart enough not to fall for vote splitting tactics (even though there are quite a few lolbertarians here). But the general American public may fall for it more easily though... :/
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>>73549985

And he is going to stay at eleven percent. Which will be amusing because at this rate it will suck votes away from both sides.

Still voting Trump though.
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JOHNSON 2016
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>>73549952
>alt-right statist cucks triggered by someone entering their safe space.
Fuck off, /pol/ was libertarian before statist cuck came along. Yet we didn't bitch and moan when someone dared to challenge us.
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>>73549540
>trumps a liberal
>so get hillary elected
K
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>>73550076
Where can I get a pair of those. My wife would not be able to wait to take them off ;)
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>>73549952
Never Ever Trump
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>>73548899
Open borders in a nation with no welfare or safety nets is fine.
It worked in the 1920 and encouraged integration.
Socialism+Open borders is suicide on the other hand.
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REMINDER THIS IS A PAID FOR SHILLARY THREAD AND 1 SHEKEL HAS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO OP'S PAYPAL.
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>>73550031

I'm voting for Gary Johnson.
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>>73550122
No, it's about voting for what you believe. And moreover, if we can get to 15%, we get to the debates and then all bets are off.
That would be a massive shake up, and one that we need alot, in American politics
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>>73550122
Hilary is getting elected either way

Trump has destroyed the Republican Party the entire point of this campaign
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>>73550085

>Implying /pol/ hasn't been a nationalist board since /new/

Fuck off, newfag.
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We need to target these subreddits
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/
Remember to use consensus cracking to your best advantage on the Trump subreddit.
They're like brainwashed pawns, you'll need to give their minds a swift crack and inject some Libertarian ideas to cure their nationalist sentiments.
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>>73549801
What is the basis of the "Trump = WW3" meme?
When all of the candidates were asked about a no-fly zone in Syria, he was the only one who was't gung-ho about shooting down Russian pilots and starting a war.
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>>73549840
No, people don't vote libertarian because Libertarians erroneously think they can do better as a third party instead of trying to help America by participating in the two important parties.

You guys gave up on trying to have your voices heard so you decided it would be more fun to take crucial votes away from the Republican Party.
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>>73550255
>alt-right cucks actually belive this
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>>73550122

This is what it has come down to. Our people are this retarded. Hopefully Hillary either has a stroke or lands herself in jail forever. Then I won't care about where the vote goes.

>>73550248

You aren't getting it from here.
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>>73550188

You're completely ignoring the reality of race, and the drawbacks of multiethnic societies. You're also ignoring the fact that we didn't have an open border in 1920. American immigration policy, up until 1965 was designed to ensure a white majority.

I'm not even a stormfag, but you're retarded if you believe any of the garbage you just typed.
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>>73550241
Are you feeling the johnson?
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>>73550335
>you aren't getting it from here
Jeez, I seem to rember a meme trumpfags pushed about an increasingly nervous man who denied that things would occur.
Not so fun when the shoe is on the other foot?
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>>73550271
r/The_Donald is just /pol/ shitposting. r/Conservative is full of NeverTrump people who support Petersen.

>>73550255
we've been both libertarian and racial realist. it's only since gaymerg8 that the alt-right has been using /pol/ as a place to shill their twitter drama and youtube accounts
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>cruzfags are still this butthurt

AYY LMAO

just wait till he inevitably endorses trump
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>>73550435
>it's only since gaymerg8 that the alt-right has been using /pol/ as a place to shill their twitter drama and youtube accounts
This.
Thank God austrian econimics was never supplanted, if that occurred all would be lost.
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>>73550248

The only way to shake up American politics is to do so from within the two dominant political parties.

There was a really simple youtube video that explained this well, it basically said that in countries with multiple political parties vying for power, the parties almost always merge to the point of there being only 2 important parties.
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>>73550377

Not feeling the Trump or Hillary
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>>73550315

http://www.autismpolicyblog.com/2012/10/libertarians-and-autism.html

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-fair-society/201108/what-s-the-matter-libertarianism

Sorry, but libertarianism is the preferred political ideology of spergs.
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So you guys are Hillary operatives, right? This is all a change of tactics because the pro-Hillary threads weren't working? There was absolutely no talk about the libertarian candidates until just recently.

First it was Cruz
Then it was Hillary
Now it's Johnson
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>>73550306
>Libertarians erroneously think they can do better as a third party instead of trying to help America by participating in the two important parties
The two parties mean fuck all. They aren't the first partys, and at this point the dems, the repubs, the alt-right, they're all different sides of the same statist coin that can be traced back to the federalists.
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>>73550597
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>this guy shows up after kasich and cruz drop out

Where the fuck do these people come from?
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>>73550577
So you want to join the johnson train?
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>>73547584
>left the fuck alone edition
unless you want to operate a business
go to a doctor/phyc and want your guns taken away

But hey, go support the 'conservative' who went hundreds of thousands in debt running for lib party and is unenergetic as Jeb!

I'll be supporting someone who holds real fiscal conservative values, will support religious rights, and isn't a push over low energy 'weed lmao' candidate.

#ap4lp
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>>73550435

>A
>Fucking
>Leaf

That's complete bullshit, and we both know it.
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Hi /pol/,

I am an insider working with Roger Stone. Stone has informed his staff that Hillary and her campaign strategists plan to split the Republican vote by promoting Gary Johnson. This is why you are seeing a greater coverage of the Libertarian candidate on MSM news.

Please ignore these Johnson threads. Copy pasta this text and share with other /pol/ members in any Shill Johnson threads that appear.

Sincerely,
Anon
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>>73550315
get a load of this faggot
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>>73550680
Johnson has surged in the polls, and as a result it seems prudent to attempt and continue that momentum.
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>>73550675

>Spamming le not an argument maymay
>While opening up with no proper argument

:^))))))))
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>>73550681

Fuck that, I'm riding the Johnson rocket son.
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>>73550734
You triggered by the truth, bootlicker?
Mad somebody is invading your safespace?
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>>73550680
It's surprising that they think it would be worth it to shill here. Even if they weren't being so obvious, there's literally nothing that would make /pol go for johnson...
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>>73550680
he's been around for couple decades. Was 2 term rep governor and ran in 2012 for (L). Libertarian party holds their convention in a couple weeks, plus having cruz/kasich drop out gives (L) a bit of a bump in interest.
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I like Austrian economics but Johnson can fuck right off.
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>>73550797
kek
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>>73550811
Have you never noticed the numerous libertarian and an-cap threads that occur here everyday?
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>>73550315
>shills actually think this tactic will work
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>>73550635
>they're all different sides of the same statist coin

you lost me here, buddy
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>>73550878
the ones were everyone calls you retards and faggots?
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>>73550878
So you are the Bernie supporters that jumped ship? Makes sense...

Good for Trump tho :)
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Will Gary Johnson repeal the ACA?

I will only vote for candidates that wont force me to buy insurance.
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>>73550837
who do you support? Perry? Feldman?McAfee? AP?
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>>73547584
>libertarian

Nah my country is too far gone with degenerate behaviour viewed as normal and even promoted and our economy is screwed. Until men stop fucking eachother and pretending to be women, we stop importing incompatible cultures stop hampering our own development with enviro laws stop outsourcing our jobs and Islam is stopped I will continue to be a NatSoc
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>>73547584
>open the border
Libertarians of the libertarian party are as jew as it gets
>Open borders
>globalization
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>>73551020
All (L) support repeal. You don't own a business by chance, though do you?
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>>73550804
Sounds like you don't like SJW's... why aren't you voting for Trump?
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>>73550956

Here I was thinking that he was referring to the ones where the posters think "Muh Hoppe" is a proper rebuttal to the multiple criticisms brought against Libertarianism and Anarcho-Capitalism on the fronts of race, nation and morality.
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>>73550718
see >>73549743

this board was so much better when there was no flags.

There were always lots of libertarians and nationalists on /pol/. This board went to complete shit and became an alt-right circlejerk after gamergate and moot nuked the board.
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What does /pol/ think about Johnson/Paul 2016?
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A vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Hillary. Fuck your principles. Don't let her into the presidency. You faggots are nothing but an inert obstacle to the real players.
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>>73551141
Paul pledged to support the Republican nominee and he would be torn to shreds from numerous different angles if he even though about running against Trump.
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>>73549648
>open borders
>free trade agreements
ever. No thanks.
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>>73551115

Thanks for the quick reply.

I don't own a business.
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>open borders liberal
>hurr don't worry you'll just be left alone goy :)

>Johnson is a Lutheran and has stated that his belief in God has given him "a very fundamental belief that we should do unto others as we would have others do unto us."
He's also a fucking retard

No idea why anyone would vote for cucks like him
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>>73551182
If I sacrafice my principles for victory I deserve neither my principles or victory
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>>73551182

Fuck off.
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>>73551281
libertarians don't have principles because fundamentally they refuse to defend anything
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>>73551262
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>>73549849
>trump
>lesser of two evils
Why are lolbertarians so retarded?
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>>73551281
The last time I voted for anyone other than the "lesser of two evils", I still got one of the "two evils"

You're not going to succeed at anything
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>>73551141

Not a bad idea, Paul would bring all of his fathers supporters over. 25-30% of the total vote maybe? One can always hope.
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>>73551182
40% of people don't vote. How is it 1-2% of the voters fault if we choose a candidate that represents us? Get people more interested in your candidate, or run a better one.
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>>73551351
You clearly don't know about libertarians.
They fought a fucking war against the largest empire at the time for their principles.
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>>73551281
What if we allowed you to vote in a different way, so that you could have your principles without making it harder for people that actually want to make the world a better place? Would a strawpoll do it for you? Or do you absolutely have to split the vote to be able to sleep at night?
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>>73550022
>>73550085
GUISE /pol/ was a democratic board before you all fucked everything up.
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>>73547584
Made something for you pol. Its Gary...
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>>73551439
>WE WUZ FOUNDING FATHERS N SHIT
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>>73549952

>Fuck my boipussy this is a trump shilling board

fixed
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>>73551397
And if you vote for one of the two evils you also get one of the evils.
If you're going to get screwed either way, choose the option that gives at least a modicum of a chance to something besides the evils, and that allows you to go down fighting for what you believe.
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I would fucking love to see Johnson destroy Stumps chance of winning the general. Lets do this!
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>>73550271
>https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

You would not survive a day on that subreddit if you shill for Johnson, dead stop. The mods allow it here, but they would ban you near instantaneously. They have scripts to catch you doing so anyway.

You can't get away with Cruz, Hillary, or Gary Johnson fishing on /r/the_donald.
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>>73551439
This guy right here. For you mouth breathers look up January 4th 1776.
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>>73551281
Fuck off. Play the hand you've been dealt or die. You're effectively choosing to stand by and do nothing while Hillary takes office. Is that part of your principles?
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>>73551466
Honestly that does adress a more fundamental issue, and yes, as system allowing you to rate your choices would be superior.
But until then, I'll support what I belive
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>>73551629

t. Hillary Shill.
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>>73551439
our founding fathers did not think open borders was a good idea, had nigger slaves, hated the internationalist jew.
Tell me again how they were libertarians.
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>>73551628
>go down fighting for what you believe.
How is it going down fighting if you just give them your vote every single election as long as they have a different letter alongside their name.
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>>73551636
Sure m8 because the founding fathers were open borders dope addicts just like Gary Johnson
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>>73551628
Why not just pick the one you like more than the other instead of ruining it for everyone else?
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>>73551140
>Calgary

That really helps any of your arguments (/sarcasm)

How's the second most cucked city in Canada doing? I haven't been since they elected that mudslime as mayor
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>>73551629
>I would fucking love to see Hillary win this election like nothing. Lets do this!
ftfy
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Johnson seems like the only rational person in the race, but youre better off voting for trump. If hillary wins youre all going down with us.
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>>73551689
I'm not doing nothing, I'm refusing to play the game of the parties.
Trump, Hillary, Cruz, Bernie, they're all statist. And as long as the system stays the way it is, I wom't vote for any of them
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Does anyone else think Gary Johnson looks like a bird?
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Fellow libertarian here. I could go for anarchy, but the United States has a good foundation to build a true capitalist libertarian society.

However lately I've been wondering if fascism might actually be the best way forward. The current system will not give up itself without a fight, this can clearly be seen in the primaries. We need to take our government back and when you think about it, a fascist movement might well accomplish this and later make way for a libertarian society. I say this because I agree with libertarians on sound money, but at the same time the world is different today than a hundred years ago. Without a central bank, we wouldn't be the world power we are today and I personally like that. I'm not willing to give that up just yet.

Any other libertarians kind of entertaining the thought of fascism? I'd prefer a more cultural nationalism coupled with a science focused approach instead of heavy military spending, but I do like the idea of unity and solidarity.
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>>73551629
MAGA 2016
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>>73551817
trumptards just mad they know they will lose and their only hope to defeat Shillary is Johnson.
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>>73549651

>this party mainly pulls from Rs

Self-identified libertarians identify more with the Republican establishment, yes, but they now have a non-establishment candidate in the race. Trump is not any more appealing to a Libertarian voter (fiscally conservative, socially liberal - at least for normie libertarians) than Hillary
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>>73551776

Pick a reputable candidate next time, mmkay? Maybe you get my vote.
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>>73551782
Not all libertarians support open borders.
Moreover, they aren't a problem if you don't have welfare.
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>>73551921
Yes
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>>73549324
All able bodied males between 17 and 45 are the irregular militia. Obviously not you, of course, because you're autistic. Nor does anyone have a right to own a car.
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>>73551636
the founding fathers were violent white nationalists you inbred fucking larpy faggot

"MUH VALUES" you'll scream as ms-13 chicanos gut you with a walmart knife

literally KILL YOURSELF
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>>73551962
Sure m8 vote for a "libertarian" who promises amnesty to all undocumented democrats, and who views border control as racism.
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>>73551484
they certainly weren`t part of le alt right

>>73551689
Why is Trump any better? He has no principles, flip flops all the time, has said everything is negotiable, literally promises to commit warcrimes, wants war with Iran, and his immigration plan is just touchback amnesty. He's an opportunist, he'll just do what is convenient for Trump. There's not much difference between the two.

>>73551782
read the federalist papers. they also didin't believe in managed trade, a huge military, and the president running on a populist platform of "fixing everything himself"
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Heads up, boys. Blatant Johnsonites are getting banned for posting in Trump threads. Here's the solution. We have to attack Trumpies on ideological grounds. Therefore instead of spreading Johnson memes, spread anti-big-gov, anti-nationalist, pro-libertarianism memes.
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>>73552040
>they werent alt right

just forget when they limited voting to only white male landowners, you fucking loyalist faggot.


I literally hope that Trump nukes you godforsaken syrupy wynne garbageheap.
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>>73547584
Stop. This will split the vote in result in a decisive clinton victory. OP knows this, OP is a shill.
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>>73551969
>reputable
>US pres candidate

Pick one
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Hillary shills pushing trump competition
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>>73552063
Quote is cheap ripoff of AP, who says "fully automatic guns"
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>>73552156

"A wasted vote is voting for someone that you don't believe in"

-Gary Johnson
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>>73551756
>But until then, I'll support what I belive
In your head, maybe.
But why are you trying to encourage other people to do the same as you though?
That's the main problem with your arguments.
If you convince someone to vote for Johnson instead of Trump, then factually, because of the way votes are counted, you are helping Hillary.
It's because you are actively trying to involve other people and try to justify it with your own personal delusions that you are being called a shill.
If you were being honest, you would start your arguments with "Let's throw our votes away in protest". If you did that, frankly I wouldn't have a problem with what you're doing.
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>>73552040
>they also didin't believe in managed trade

Yes they did.

The federal government was entirely funded by tariffs, which were set up to encourage Americans to grow their own economy rather than import goods from overseas.
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>>73552063
inb4 you screencap this and post it in the trump general to discredit everyone who advocates for smaller government

>>73551875
I don't mind it here, I have a good paying job, my contract is for three years. It's pretty similar to Omaha.

>>73552145
I'm American.

>>73552156
>discussing libertarianism on 4chan will cost trump the election

Trump has already lost anyway.
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>>73552156
OP is not a shill, OP is an idealist.
If the libertarian party wasn't a thing I would vote trump, the right wing canidate.
But it is a thing, and thus I shall vote for them instead.
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>>73547584
Jesus fuck, and I thought the Cruz shills were annoying
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ITT: Please let Shillary win by throwing my vote away.
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>>73552288
Wise words. I love how Drumphf's only defence is "I'm not Hillary" and Shillary's is "I'm not Trump".
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>>73547584
>Vote to be left the fuck alone edition
haha does this include importing mexicans by the hundreds of thousands?

libertarianism is a mental disease.
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>>73552063
>>73552063
>>73552063
>>73552063
>>73552063
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>>73552040
The founding fathers would be calling for violent revolution & genocide of the shitskins if they saw what America had come to today

>>73552063
"Libertarians" are entirely controlled by the left wing open borders cultists
They are fucking liberals at their core, especially Gary Johnson
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>>73547584
If you want a different outcome, then you should at the VERY LEAST vote different. I agree with OP.
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https://twitter.com/ppppolls

>Gary Johnson and Jill Stein's combined support on our poll this weekend was less than we've generally found for Deez Nuts


AYY LMAO
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>>73552288

There are three candidates.

You agree with one 10%, one 50%, and one 90%.

The one you agree with 10% wins because the one you voted for at 90% was unelectable.

The worst person was elected because you refused to compromise.

>not a wasted vote
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>>73551969

>Nationalist Candidate
>Not reputable.

Enjoy being irrelevant and handing the country to democrats.
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>>73549705
sauce?
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>>73552063

How about just not spreading propaganda

>muh board, muh viral memes

Is Weev and alt-right neofascist rhetoric. It's why they shill everywhere outside of their hugboxes and complain about shills to foster an illusion of unanimity and totality. It takes one to know one, this is the source of that paranoid type they tend to be. Maybe you should go back to the Trump general
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>>73552551

Sounds like you should vote Johnson then.
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>>73549705
>Voting is throwing your vote in the trash

ftfy
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>>73551983

Again, you are completely ignoring the reality of race and culture, and the social strife caused by diversity.

Both Gary Johnson and Austin Petersen are in favor of taking steps towards opening borders.
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>>73552398
You do know an-caps and libertarians aren't anti-borders right?
Just anti-goverment. If a private entity wants to do something, then it should, as long as it doesn't infringe on others rights.

Hell, if /pol/ wanted to make it's own opt in gated community that banned all shitskins, niggers, jews and spics, all power to it.
Don't tread on me also means I won't tread on you
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>>73552684

So?
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>>73552649
I'm not even libertarian. I agree with Trump more than the libertarian platform, and even the GOP platform.
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>>73552339
You're right, I apologize. But overall Trump's vision of a massive spending federal government with the president controlling the economy does not look anything like what they believe in. That's what I meant.

>>73552393
Trump wants to let back in every illegal he deports.
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>>73552776
There are no borders without a government, faggot.
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kek, I probably agree with Hillary more than the lolbertarians. Ewh.
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>>73552808

Can I count on you to vote Gary Johnson on November 8 2016?
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>>73551140
Yeah, before there were no flags, no one noticed how many garbage posts came from Canada.
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>>73552851
wat
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>>73552675
>>Voting is throwing your vote in the trash
Depends on where you live. In the US, larger population centers are definitely more important than the shitty rural areas.
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>>73552835
>But overall Trump's vision of a massive spending federal government with the president controlling the economy does not look anything like what they believe in. That's what I meant.

True. Almost all domestic spending should be done by the states, to whatever degree their citizens deem appropriate.
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>>73552684
>and the social strife caused by diversity.
A lack of welfare means that people aren't coming here for GIBSMEDATS, but to succeed, to assimilate into the melting pot and to follow the american dream. Race isn't the issue, culture and values are.

You're no different than somebody complaining about the irish in the 1800s. The difference was back then we didn't let the irish get payed for existing, we forced them to work if they wanted to live.
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>>73552643
The fuck are you talking about?
>you're all just paranoid
I'd trust a paranoid person more than the Average one. Tell a person that all mathematicians agree 2+2=8 and they will agree. Tell a paranoid person this and they investigate it themselves
>yfw the foundation of libertarianism is paranoia
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>>73552776

That's a nice hypothetical, but we're dealing with reality, not lolbertarian fantasy land.

The overwhelming majority of libertarians (including the two notable Libertarian Presidential hopefuls) favor open borders.
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>>73552851

Anarchists (in general) reject centralized governance. Most anarchists also reject the power leverage that leads to governance, but ancaps believe that systems of governance should cede prerogative and lend themselves to the market mechanism.
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>be a shill
>B.S. in Communications from 4th tier Southeast Cuck State
>2.6 gpa
>"I'm a professional social media influencer"
>Can't find a job because market is flooded with pseudointellectual tech hipster wannabes
>find a gig on craigslist for control the record
>late to orientation because had to take wife's kid to school
>reddit, facebook, twitter assignments already taken
>/pol/ duty
>fuck
>tried some subtle hillary shilling for the first week
>they called me a faggot
>plan b, johnson shilling

Good luck
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>>73552981
>lack of welfare
I don't want welfare to be completely eliminated... I don't think most Trump supporters want that either. They just want more jobs and more people to work. Not a lolbertarian hellscape...
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>>73553033
Which inevitably leads to things like NAFTA and the European Union, which puts the interests of large corporations over those of individuals.

That's why I like Trump's populist streak. I'm all for capitalism, but not to a degree where the government is under the control of those who control the markets.
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I understand the sentiment on voting for Johnson, as I like him a lot as well as many of his positions.

That said, and it is a shame to say it, but yes voting for him in our current political system is basically voting for Clinton, both votes are one in the same. It essentially comes down to whether or not you are a pragmatist, or person who is unwilling to compromise their beliefs.

The system is shit, it's rigged from the start and we are forced to play into it, but I would never, EVER vote to let someone like Hillary Clinton become our president.
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>>73552981

Race is the issue.

The Irish aren't comparable to Hispanics, Blacks and Muslims.

The Irish, for all of their problems, weren't hellbent on Reconquista, Jihad, or general thuggery.

The Irish assimilated, because assimilation into a melting pot is easy to do when the ingredients are white. You're equating the faultline of nationality with the faultline of race and they're two entirely separate things.

You also ignore the fact that minorities will continue to vote for Left-Wing policies, effectively destroying your ideal society.

I won't even get into the verifiable, biological differences between the races.
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