All these map threads with crazy "minority vote" state turnovers. Ffs, high voter turnouts come because people actually love a candidate, not because they hate the opponent.
Like seriously, I see people handing ARIZONA and GEORGIA to Hillary aswell as North and South Carolina, Virginia and Florida.
Are you telling me that Hillary will have better minority results than Obama did in 08???? LMAO. The best she can hope for is maintaining Virginia, and that's unlikely considering Dems only won it cus blacks love Obama there.
Florida flips to Trump for his popularity, business there ect. He won it in a landslide and Cubans don't give a shit what he says about Mexicans.
Ohio, Michigan and PE goes to Trump cus he's the only one who cares about their jobs and Hillary is making a war on coal there. NH also flips to Trump because Trump will campaign insanely there and Bernouts either don't vote or vote Trump.
Virginia is going back to GOP, blacks won't vote as much as they did Obummer. It's literally hilarious that people think Hillary can do better than Obama with blacks. Even if it stays Dem, Trump wins.
>>73510700
Obama is going to campaign hard for Shillary. I wonder if he can turn out the blacks in force.
>>73510792
Obama wants to be noble and not give his opinion, so even though he jabs at Trump sometimes, he won't outright say vote for Shillary imho.
>>73510918
He is already doing it against Sanders.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/7/1524279/-Obama-s-Critique-of-Sanders
>>73510981
So? Then Dems only retain Virginia, like Obama did in 2012. Still Trump wins.
>>73511055
>Then Dems only retain Virginia, like Obama did in 2012.
Dems win if they take Virginia. Pennsylvania won't go Republican.
>>73511136
Even in my map if Trump loses Virginia and PE he still wins, albeit narrowly.
>>73510700
If she picks that La Raza spic as her running mate, she will loses the entire rustbelt. I live in PA. I doubt we would vote for her if that happened, but nothing surprises me anymore. There are allot of non liberal democrats, and independents here. This isn't a diverse state. If she pisses off enough people like that Trump will win it. Whites aren't going to vote for that LA Raza shit.
>>73511136
>Pennsylvania won't go Republican.You clearly know nothing about us or our politics.
Trump will retain all Romney states. He will DEFINITELY add Ohio, Florida, NH.
Then all he needs is ONE more.
Either PE, Virginia or Michigan.
>>73510700
I mean, the reason people say HRC could win AZ and/or GA is because the polls show her and Trump competitive there.
Obviously, there are 6 months during which the situation can change, but at present, AZ and GA are in play according to the data.
>>73511788
Polls mean shit.
It's easy to "say" who you want, but you need to be a bit more dedicated to actually go vote.
It's turnout that matters and Trump's will be the biggest in decades.
is it possible trump may win NY ? he is from there and also well liked i suppose in NY
>>73511992
Hardly, too many cucks there. Though I'd love it if Hillary got so unpopularity she would lose NY.
>>73511992
Too many Democraps. Jew York City will keep them from going R.
>>73511921
What makes you doubt the polls so much - weren't they right about Trump's strength in the GOP primaries. Moreover, polls in the US are usually pretty close to the actual results.
>>73511992
Clinton is up by ~26 at the moment.
>>73512093
you reckon trump will win rust belt, the south including florida and pennsylvania ? if he does he pretty much wins right ?
>>73512169
>Clinton is up by ~26 at the moment.
unlikely for 6 months to change that right ?
>>73512137
Ok, but my scenario is logical. He just needs 1 of those key 3 states besides the ones he will win anyway.
The only group energized to vote is the white working class. Obama energized the blacks, they won't turn out to vote for Hillary in the numbers that they did for him which is what the democrats depend on.
>>73512169
Hillary was leading Obama in 08, that changed in a shorter period than 6 months. She'll drop like a rock. I mean, she almost lost to a fucking socialist in 'MURICA XD
>>73512225
PA,Michigan,NH,Virginia,Ohio,Iowa,Colorado are all in play for Trump. He could win all of them or at least 4/7.
>>73512253
Indeed that's what I'm on about, Blacks and Latinos don't get energized to vote against someone, especially if that means voting for an old white woman.
>>73512253
idk man, i think people are generally pretty interested in this election
trump's best hope is for berniefags to turn against shillary, either by not voting or by voting for him (former seems more likely)
>>73512367
I'm trying to be conservative, so I gave Iowa, Nevada, and Colorado to the Dems anyway, but hey, Trump can do them too, but let's not be too optimistic. Still he doesn't need them, but they'd be the cherry on the cake. :)
>>73512446
They will. Especially in NH. Heck, he might win Vermont and Colorado.
Counting on Bernouts to give him Michigan too.
>>73512219
A change that big would be unprecedented. That being said, Trump is unprecedented too, so I guess anything is possible?
>>73512310
There's always the potential for change, yeah.
>>73512367
I haven't seen Trump competitive in MI or PA, and those are basically blue states at this point. What makes you think he's got a chance?
>>73510700
Another thing that might help Trump actually win is the arrogance with which media pundits proclaim, "PSSSHHHHH TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL, HILLARY WILL BEAT HIM IN A LANDSLIDE."
Anti-trump people who wanted to vote for Bernie, or who for any other reason don't like Clinton, will hear that and think "I don't need to waste my time and effort voting for Hillary because she has the election in the bag anyway."
>>73512446
Young people hate Hillary greatly. They see her as the epitome of corruption and corporatism. They won't vote for her especially since they believe that she rigged the system and scammed Bernie out of the white house. Democrats rely on minorities and young people to vote. Hillary will not bring in the huge numbers of young people and blacks that Obama did.
>>73512401
But minority voters have been showing up - that's a big part of why Clinton beat Sanders in the primaries.
>>73512692
Yeah and the democrats are down double digits in total voter turnouts while the Republicans are up huge double digits.
how the fuck did obongo win 2012 with this?
>>73512169
Alot of the polls on the primaries were either wrong or way off. Not all but plenty.
I am not sure polls really mean that much and my distrust of the msm makes it hard for me to really blindly accept any poll they push.
>>73512692
When comparing the Republican and Democratic primaries, one thing you'll notice is that turn out for the Republicans has been much greater. It's not that Democrat-voting minorities have been turning out in droves in order to combat the Bernie movement; it's actually that Sanders supporters are much fewer in number than they would have you believe. It is enthusiasm, not opposition, that motivates voter turnout, as many here have said. Hillary does not generate enthusiasm as Donald Trump does.
>>73512692
The youth vote counts and she told them to basically fall in line. Big mistake. Plus Trump is a meme, while Hillary isn't.
>>73512839
A lot of people live in those blue areas
>>73512839
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density
>>73512692
The best she can hope for is maintaining Virginia. That's it. She can't do better than Obama with Minorities. That is her downfall.
>>73512839
>how did he win an election with all the populated areas?
>how did he win an election when his opponent won all the empty land?
>>73512839
Population.
>>73512601
>I haven't seen Trump competitive in MI or PA, and those are basically blue states at this point. What makes you think he's got a chance?
Demographics,Voter issues, and Primary turnout. Did you know, if Trump wins 3 out of every 20 black voters in PA,Michigan, he wins those states?
>>73512839
Because USA is overwhelmingly urban. It's not hard to comprehend faggot. I'm sure electoral maps in the UK look very similar.
>>73512839
>all major population centers
>>73512864
I mean, I can't think of any yugeeeeee errors for races that had a decent amount of polling except for Sanders in MI.
>all the mental gymnastics ITT
TOP FUCKING KEK
This shit is hilarious. Keep it up guys. Give me some more reasons Trump will win in November.
>>73510792
Nigs literally don't care. As long as Hillary isn't black, they are not going to show up to vote.
>>73510700
>PA
>MI
>FL
>NH
ashgiddy
>>73513159
If you want to have fun then screencap all those threads to make compilation collage after the november about how deluded sides were
>>73513033
And even without the black vote in PA and Michigan, all he would need to do is bring over some working class whites. He doesn't need black or Hispanic support to win this election.
>>73513159
Voter enthusiasm = high turnout.
Do you know how many states were decided by 5% in 2012 between famous Obama and such a boring guy as Romney?
>>73511788
I live in GA, the Don has been popular here for awhile. We don't like Muslims or Mexicans so his message has taken root. The liberals in Atlanta and Savannah will make it seem like Shillery has a chance but this is a red state through and through and will not flip for that traitorous cunt
>>73511136
>Pennsylvania won't go Republican.
Romney lost it by like, less than 5%
And Romney sucked and Obonger was black
Once blacks are ready to say Damo Arigato Mr. Mulatto, Trump can win
>>73513564
Really, you don't even need to clarify. It's a fucking meme that people think she can do better with Blacks with Obama.
>>73513608
We'll see I guess.
However 6 months is a long time.
We should be focused on drumming up support and exposing Hillary's issues to more people.
At the same time we shouldn't give any attention to negative polls. It just gives more attention to them and it serves no purpose.
Than *
>>73510918
He's just waiting for primary to be over then he'll endorse Hillary.
Even when CNN tries to be a middle man when playing with the electoral map, the only thing they can do for Hillary is give her Georgia and Arizona "cus minorities"
Top fucking kek.
All she can do is try to defend Obama 2012 states, but she'll lose Virginia cus she ain't black and she'll lose the Rust Belt because 2012 was close there and she said fuck coal and Trump is championing the blue collar white vote with protectionism + bernouts.
And Florida is the secret weapon and ultimate cherry on the cake.
>>73513761
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
>>73514029
how do you know all about it while typing from SA?
>>73514123
I'm 17 and bored.
>>73510700
Exactly. All Trump needs is working class white males showing up in force.
>>73512502
>I'm trying to be conservative
Good
>>73514270
Its just there are so many factors that didn't play yet so its early to make predictions. No VP announced, still debates ahead, Trump can still make 'uge mistake that will be fatal for his campaign and dems will spin this all day long. Americans rely on their brainwashing media system that ellects candidates instead of the voters. It still can have an effect.
>>73514270
cya kiddo
>>73510700
>high voter turnouts come because people actually love a candidate, not because they hate the opponent.
except this is exactly how justin trudeau was elected
>>73514270
MODS ARE GODS???
>>73514839
The perception of Americans as being slaves to their media overlords is just an anti-American stereotype. Americans are aware that their media is untrustworthy. Trump is reflective of the fact that large numbers of Americans are rejecting traditional authority figures.
how's this
>>73514270
kek, reported
>>73514270
put me in the screen cap when he gets banned
>trying to predict a trump election
Would it help if I mentioned I'm turning 18 in a month?
>>73515184
>large numbers of Americans are rejecting traditional authority figures
But are there enough of a number of those Americans?
And what about the election fraud? Do you believe it is possible that Clinton will just pay the right people who count the numbers to skew them in her favor?
>>73513761
Why does Illinois remain blue in all maps, even the best case scenarios? Are there really that many Chiraq niggers?
>>73516561
.... yes.
Chiraq niggers and white liberals run the city. Which is ironic, because it's basically 2nd to NYC when it comes to high income people who work in capital markets.
>>73516502
Bernouts on the #Bernieorbust train are key.
They know Trump is a corporate shill, so many of them will most likely not vote or even vote Trump to just keep Hillary's greedy pass off the economy.
>TFW organizing for Trump in Maryland
>playing on the hardest difficulty setting
Wish me luck bros.
>>73516885
Hillary is a corporate shill *
>>73510792
LORD OF CHAOS BIDEN
What if Trump makes Ron Paul his VP?
Rand is already endorsing Trump, so the libertarian vote is now with the Reps.
Serious question to burgers, how prominent is alt media in the US general pop?
As long as the majority suckles from the tits of CNN and MSNBC Trump would have a hard time... If they are exposed to some media that presents another view... then it's a different story?
Also, how is Fox news been since Trump went presumptive? Now I know that some shows supported him to some extent or were neutral favorable, just Judge Jeneane and Hannity, but in general there was a lot of pro Cruz shilling, especially in the prime time.
How does it look now?
Last question, how popular is BreitBart?
>>73511992
Probably not but this may be the closest NY will ever get to flipping in any election in quite a long time, so I wouldn't put it at 0%..
>>73514270
>>73515275
Me too famalam
There are too few South Africans on this website. He's turning 18 in a month anyway ffs.
How boring is your life if you get a kick out of picking on high-school seniors?
>>73519993
Just banter m8, calm yourself
My prediction if Hillary is a real fail in debates (hoping she takes part in all of them). We saw how weak she was in the Democrat debates, this time she can't just keep agreeing with her opponent in order to stay afloat.
>>73510700
if Trump wins it's probably going to look something like this
>>73520823
I wish, but that map is not going to happen.
Why does CNN say during the New York primaries both Hillary and Bernie are New Yorkers when she was only there for 8 years? Like Wtf?
>>73510792
He just cut their food stamps back to Bush levels, so no, niggers ain't supporting him.
The ones I fucking work with hate that nigger now.
>dat nigga cossin' me money
>he dun turned his back on da brothers
>dat obamacare wack as fuck
Trust me, the real niggers hate his ass and they hate that white bitch too.
Now, if Bill could run for term three, he'd win no problem. But not Hillary. Niggers don't respect women and fo sho don't respect a woman who let her man cheat on her.
>>73511136
>Donald Trump won't be the Republican nominee guis!
This is the map. Hillary is one of the most hated people in politics. 99% of Independents will not vote for her. The Republicans will take all the moderates and everyone to the right of them. The far left will not vote on election day because Bernie lost. The olny people that will bother to vote for Hilldawg is center leaning life long democrats.
>>73522405
>independents = moderates
when will this meme die
Donald Trump is almost certainly going to lose to Hillary Clinton. I personally think he'll make it closer than Joe Biden or Mitt Romney managed, though, because of his pull with traditional non-voters.
Trump just needs to retain Romney's states. Grab both Ohio and Florida, then all he needs is one of these 3: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia.
Highly doubt Trump can do worse than Romney.
>>73522743
This map completely disregards his whole strategy of appealing to white Blue collar rust belt men. You are living in a fantasy world if you think he can't grab some of them.
>>73523136
I think he can grab some support in those areas, but not enough. He lost handily in Ohio's primary, and Clinton is favoured there well ahead of Sanders.
>>73522743
All Trump has to do is bring up how she wants to destroy the coal industry. She's on the record as saying so I believe.
>>73523687
He lost handily in Ohio because the fucking governor was running. The fact that he only lost in Ohio (Texas I would consider a win due to the fact that he didn't even let Rato get >50% and he absolutely blew the fuck out of Rubio) is telling. When Kaisch bends the knee Ohio may go Trump.
>>73512839
Phoenix and Salt Lake City
Only major urban centers uncucked by libs
T...thanks Joseph smith
>>73523687
You do know he came in second and still had more votes than her?
>>73518693
>Jew asking about the US media
It would be such a fail if Hillary loses New York to Trump. There are not that many rich white people there like the rest of the North East imho.
>>73526066
She was a fucking garbage senator for that state. Trump created jobs for people in there and is a native.
It makes sense for him to at LEAST tie with her there.
>>73526325
I bet you either way it will be a less than 5% win for one of them.
>>73526610
Oh no, this whole election will be like that with 90% of the states. Only ones that are going to be a FOR SURE deal are Cali for the Dems and Texas for the repubs.
