Explain to me why our policies shouldn't reflect this
Nothing. Women in combat roles is insane though.
>>73436077
This.
Dat salute is all fucked up
>>73435997
We give women jobs and as a society we pretend that they're useful and capable. In combat we can't pretend.
>>73435997
Women mess with group dynamics and morale. They're also incapable of most of the physically demanding parts of being a soldier. Women in non-frontline positions is less of a problem, though.
>>73436077
this, its not like they aren't part of it in support roles for ages.
Its just the drama queens that want into combat rolls, especial those that want into the infantry.
>>73436077
>>73436278
Why not make an all-female combat unit and see how it performs over a certain period of time, let's say a year?
>>73436370
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/10/mixed-gender-teams-come-up-short-marines-infantry-experiment/71979146/
Marines already conducted a thorough research on the subject
>>73436370
Because its racist and sexist
>>73436370
this
...unless they all get raped
If we keep invading countries with no pussy, we better start bringing more of our own.
>>73436463
Sexist, bigoted, biased, misogynist, mostly men culture branch of military compared to air force/navy/army, etc.
>>73435997
lower upper body strength means she wont be hoisting any of her comrades on her shoulders and taking them out of combat
women show higher risk aversion to men, so not only will she not be rescuing them but she will have a higher chance of running away from battle
women show lower tolerance to PTSD symptoms so she will cower and piss herself when the mortars start falling
women have less eye/hand coordination which means that in a standard firefight she will do more poorly as compared to her enemy counterparts
if women want in the military maybe your government should startup a prostitution outfit for your soldiers
>>73435997
If you have ever worked with women in the military, you'll know that they rarely carry their weight. Not all females are shitbags, but a lot of them are.
There are a lot of male shitbags too though.
>>73435997
Women who try to keep up on a 12mile ruck march with a 60 pound ruck sack destroy their hips faster as their leg bones are not perfectly vertical as a males.
On top of that they still need to complete their mission after the ruck march and they are already often falling on their faces after that.
The unofficial standards are way higher than the inefficient official ones and by bringing women into the military it will make the official standards lower and forces them to actually be lawfully enforced.
This degrades operational efficiency.
Its called "go above and beyond the call of duty!" not "make the cut..."
Also a single women is able to (and often does) spread stds to an entire company of men.
Doesn't most military's have women as support roles? Like since forever?
Also doesn't most EU countries let women join up in armored divisions?
>be infantry men
>get supporting fire from a tank
>defend position
>enemy is falling back
>go to thank tank commander
>tank commander is a women
How would you feel about this?
>>73436607
here's your (you)
=^)
>>73436216
because you only show the paws when surrendering
There's nothing wrong with them in upper or specialist roles. Some even perform better than men like fighter pilots.
But front lines infantry is too difficult for most. but the biggest disqualifier is the all needed fireman carry. You need to be able to pick up a fallen friend with both of you in full kit and get out quick.
>>73435997
women in the military are the fucking worst. Can't understand it until you've been in though and seen your first sheboon officer
>>73436940
I'd remember that the loader will never be a woman because they can't move shells worth a shit.
>>73436463
Doesn't look too good, but maybe more meaningful data could be collected over the course of an actual deployment. If they don't do well, they will have a justification to close infantry roles from women again.
>>73437121
Plot twist
The tank's cannon is an auto loader :^)
But yea, no way the loader position would be filled by a women. Not sure about those women driving skills either now that I think about it.
>>73437259
Yeah, they aren't going to close infantry roles to woman once they're open, especially in more liberal countries.
>>73437259
They score worse in every single category. You don't need an actual test to tell when something is going to be a disaster.
And what kind of asshole sends women to die to prove a point that everyone already knows?
>>73437259
>>73437436
Perhaps this could red pill women on the dangers that face the West on a daily basis?
Wishful thinking I know.
>>73435997
>air force
>female
Shitty salute. But it's okay because she's trying hard!
>>73437259
But if they can't perform well in controlled environments, there is no guarantee that they will perform better in combat environments.
In fact, if they perform just as bad or even worse in combat environments, they will be increasing the risk on other soldiers and friendlies.
Less accuracy, longer operation time etc. all lead to prolonged fights and combat which increases the risk to all units involved.
Is it ethical to provide career opportunities at the expense of higher risk to military personnel?
>>73437259
The problem is no matter how many statistical data or proofs we throw at our government they will cup their ears yelling "LALALA We can't hear you, it's 2xxx get with it"
Clearly the loudest people of our country are also the smallest group of people demanding shit and yet they pander to those people.
>>73435997
ugh that salute form
>>73437600
Furthermore, the study reveals women are more likely to be injured, leading to reduced combat effectiveness of the units.
Not only that, their injury will lead to siphoning more resources (AKA money) on their healthcare and benefits.
Do you really want more money spent on healthcare than now? Do you want military to become even a bigger financial blackhole than it already is?
>Dat salute
What the actual fuck.
>>73436216
and her collar is all fucked to hell
clearly an actor/model
>>73437584
I've spoke to various woman who've served in the Royal Engineers and have seen combat and they agree they shouldn't open up the infantry to woman, let alone lower the standards to let the women in.
The only woman who think it's a good idea are the ones who haven't seen combat or aren't in the military.
Besides, I don't think you'll see many (If any) woman joining the infantry at the bottom level, the majority will go in as officers, like that cunt that "passed" RASP.
>>73435997
Women should be kept in warzones as fuck toys to keep our boys morale up. And they should wear sexy outfits when they are treating wounded soldiers
>>73437567
>what kind of asshole sends women to die to prove a point that everyone already knows?
To prove a point to those that keep spouting that women are as good as men.
>>73437436
>>73437584
Who knows. Maybe the data would encourage the people in charge to reverse a retarded decision, not to mention warn women who intend to apply for infantry positions.
>>73437600
It's their choice. If it's an all-female outfit, I don't see a reason not to send them in the thick of the action to earn their pay. I am however much more against mixed gender units, because women have a tendency to break up the cohesion, cause lots of stress to everyone involved for various reasons and end up getting carried in a fight because the men will have to pick up the slack. So, make all-female units, have a couple of them blow up to bits and maybe the folks in charge reconsider their position on infantry jobs for women.
I hear their menstruation attracts bears.
>>73438017
She didn't pass RASP, she passed Ranger School. One funnels you into the 75th Battalion, and the other is a leadership course. Not that it's nothing, I just wish the news would stop saying that RS makes you a Ranger.
>>73438017
>>73436463
Mixed gender will always be a shit show in the infantry. Can you imagine the pregnancy risk and hygiene issues that will arise with mixed platoons if a conventional war ever kicks off? We'd actively have to rotate woman back to a FOB for showers to avoid yeast infections, which leaves the platoon under strength.
If they're set on passing this shit they should at least have gender specific platoons/companys/battalions like the Israelis do.
>>73437902
She's Air force
Women in the military though, holy fucking shit. I started in the army as 91b, there aren't a lot of girls there. Literally 1 out of 40 in my class, but GUESS WHO MAKES PLATOON GUIDE?
Then went 12b, it's a little better.
Outside of tradoc, there is very little coddling of women, nobody gives a fuck about them. They will be useless sluts, without remorse and without fail.
I'd prefer no women in the army but fuck it, can't put that horse back in the barn.
>>73437072
Women absolutely do not out perform men as fighter pilots, whoever told you that is joking.
>>73438253
I'm pretty sure she "passed" RASP and would be allowed to enter the Rangers if they allowed woman into it.
Either way there were reports of both woman being trained specifically to undergo the tests, were allowed time off for hygiene, and instructors were pretty much forced to pass them.
>>73438164
>wants to send men die in mixed gender combat teams to prove that women are not suitable for front-line infantry
How about we make 100% female combat team and send them out?
>>73438650
That's not what I said, read it again.
>>73438650
>100% female combat unit
It's fine m8, I didn't give a shit about that flank anyways :^)
>>73438017
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9823312/Army-has-dropped-fitness-standards-to-allow-more-women-to-join.html
>>73438650
Because they know they'll under perform massively and will prove them wrong. At least with mixed gender testing the male soldiers will be able to boost up their results a bit more.
Government's need to realize the military isn't some social experiment, it's there to kill people in the most efficient way possible.
>>73438454
well probably fell for the "multitasking" meme.
Doesn't mean shit if you can "multitask" if the enemy male pilot can pull 9Gs without blackout an the femal can't tis end of game.
>inb4 muh BVR
>>73437259
women on the frontlines will stop when we get a battered and broken female soldier on an ISIS video
course, ISIS would be generous enough to let her convert to islam and be a good fourth wife if she obeys
>>73437259
> If they don't do well, they will have a justification to close infantry roles from women again
Yeah, that's how it would work in a logical country. In the West, closing the women's sections down would mean the military was SEXIST, and there would be riots in the streets.
>>73438650
This, just imagine that sweet k/d ratio.
>out of 14 soldiers
>6 was killed in gunfight
>4 deserted and died while running away
>3 was captured and raped
>1 was killed in friendly fire
If any woman survive this you will know not to fuck with her.
>>73437664
If you're frustrated about it, then get louder.
>>73435997
That's one shitty salute.
>>73438948
Its bullshit dude. They're discussing lowering the standards for the Parachute Regiment and the Royal Marines so that more woman can pass the courses.
>>73435997
I'm all for it since there will be more women with short/buzzed hair~
>>73435997
>>73438454
>>73439080
it's true but only because they tend to be physically smaller, so their bodies are less effected by the G forces and they can pull sicker mad turns, so literally getting a midget pilot would be better
>>73438271
I legitimately mad.
These fucking morons are admitted into a fighting force for which cohesion and an ability to work together is paramount and they go parading around throwing up the equivalent of gang signs in a display intended to segregate the races.
Reminder to stop feeding the shills.
Sage.
Women destroy any and all unit cohesion. They also make decisions and think with their emotions instead of logic. That's why they shouldn't be allowed in the military at all except for maybe as stress relief for all those guys in the Navy that are stuck with other men on boats but don't want to fuck man ass.
>>73439465
this makes me hurt every time i see it. not triggered or angry just what my parents must feel each time they see me
>>73439465
Wasn't that a reporter?
>>73439772
>just what my parents must feel each time they see me
Disappointment? Regret for not using a condom?
>>73440214
probably something between disappointment and despair
>>73436077
Even is support jobs they lack strength and stamina, this is coming from an armyfag. They need to stay home and support the nation that way. You wouldn't believe the problems we've had because of fucking females.
>>73441664
I can most certainly believe. Share a story.
>>73441718
On mobile so might take a minute
>>73441718
>fuelerfag
>deployed to shithole
>work with whatever is needed to be done if were short handed
>on a slow day we help with transporting ported water and some other packaged product
>group is probably 30-40% female
>working slow and taking breaks, making small talk
>Sgt wants us to hurry up
>now 2 females for a 1 man job
>still slower than males
>didn't make the time hack
>bitches complaining about job
>THEY SIGNED UP TO DO
I have so many of these, drama bs etc.
