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>women have traditional mother and house wife role
>anti commies
>anti ultracapitalism
>working circumstances for the people improved
>nationalistic, pro own nation, but without hating others
>banks no longer in private hands
>industries NOT nationalised, rather some kind of interventionism
>physical and mental strenght were promoted, no degeneracy
>"help your fellow countryman'' mentality

Find a flaw...
Even if National Socialism is vilified, how hard would it be to show people there is nothing wrong with national socialism, since 'burning muh 6 gorillion' has officially nothing to do with the NatSoc ideology?
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>>73388333
Literally I'm possible. Those dirty Jews ruined it with their media slander.
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>>73388333
Ummmmmm there literally Nazi's????
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yes, they nailed the banks, international capitalism and parasitic financial institutions whilst having capitalism that favoured productivity and enterprise. no wonder it took the entire liberal and entire marxist worlds to take down.
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>>73388333
Good digits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM
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>only want NatSoc to come back in full swing so I can be a housewife
last time I expressed interest in just being a housewife for a guy who makes good money all my friends made fun of me. a couple of the more SJW types even got out right mad at me and said I was "dangerously close to being a self hating women"
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>73388333
>73388333
>3388333
>3388
>33
>333
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>>73388417
I see Nazi germany as utopia.
It sucks that it got taken down.
However what i see it as is hope.
Hope that this attitude will always exist in people like you and I.
What has happend, will happen again.
The sun will rise again, i hope that i get to see it.
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The Republic of Weimar was a parody of National Socialism. Only shills who profit from messing with our minds would promote the Nazi regime. Needless to say, many of us would not even fit in this fascist regime. NatSoc is NOT fascist at its core.
Eugenics, deportation of entire races and silencing the opposition never worked and never will.

Simply put, true National Socialism gather the moral values of the Right Wing with the employment ethics of the Left Wing. The best of both worlds. Every country should be National Socialist. It promotes the well being and the sovereignty of the nation and its people.
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>>73388606
Your friend will make fun of you.
But real men will not, me and all of my mates, my brother, my cousins and millions of other men want a girl like you.
When you are 50 and have an awesome husband, 4 children and 12 grandchildren spending your days sipping tea in your backyard and babysitting your beautiful grandchildren, and your friends who will most likely be single workaholic depressed sluts you will see who is laughing.
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>>73388678
what is special about the 33?
Does it refer to 1933?
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>>73389239
fuck if i know nigger.trips is trips, but he also incorporated two dubs.

christ germany.
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Corporatism doesn't work.
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>>73389011
This

You can't let other people give you value. Others will always try to bring you down to make themselves feel good, even friends. Don't argue with these people and do your own thing
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Nazism was a massive failure and is easily one of the worst political systems ever devised.

Fascism leads to nothing but ruin. More than six million innocent people died at the hands of the Nazis.
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You mean some sort of idealized ideology that's never been tried or the nazism as practiced by A. Hitler?

Your picture says the latter, but the greentext says the first.
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>>73388333
you are so right
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>>73388333
>>women have traditional mother and house wife role

Women should work too.
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>>73389803
>More than six million innocent people died at the hands of the Nazis
>flag
Of course

>>73389894
Most germans who lived under National Socialism (or Nazism, if you want to call it that) still speak about it in a very positive way. We're not talking about the war here, just about how National Socialism influenced daily life in germany
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>>73388333
Capitalism > Socialism
/thread
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>>73390115
good thing that nazi germany was a capitalist country than.
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>>73390091
top kek
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>>73388606
WHY DOES FEMINISM LOOK DOWN UPON FEMININITY AND THE VALUE OF BEING A GOOD WOMAN?!?
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There were activists of communism related with the Communist International in Japan.
Their planning was...
- whip up fighting spirit
- begin a war against America.
- make communist country after lost of the war
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>>73390091
They werent prohibited to work, but their priority was being a good mother. I think you can be a good mother and have a job at the same time

>>73390115
National Socialism is a combination of both. Socialism nowadays = 'i am too lazy to work gibs me dat'

And as I said, industries were never nationalised, there was a free market, etc...
Natsoc =/= communism
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>>73390158
Women have always worked. Only for a brief few decades in the late 19th/early 20th century was this the case, and in many nations it was never true. Historically housewives were an aberration. National Socialism was actually pretty feminist. Mothers were idolised, women weren't expected to work until war broke out and they had to out of necessity, men had to do all the heavy lifting while women sat at home.

"In male cultures men only work in order to live, but in nations where women domineer, men frequently work themselves to death" - Kuehnelt-Leddihn
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>>73388333
>Find a flaw.
Led to the destruction of Germany, innumerable deaths, state bancruptcy and the worship by some delusional NEETs.
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>>73390167
because cultural marxism is toxic, the nazi's did a good job burning all books that were promoting degeneracy
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>>73390101
Testimonials of old people isn't reliable. As time goes on, people tend to forget the bad things and remember the good.
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>>73388333

Flaw found: Impossibility of economic calculation in the socialist commonwealth.

Without actual property, actual markets, and actual money the cost of input factors in production cannot be rationally determined due to the lack price ratios. Thus, the economy cannot be more complex than what the current paradigm of bureaucratic technologies can allow.

In today's world this would mean a return to a simplistic agricultural economy. The citizens would be highly taxed to pay for the state's need to maintain control over the region due to the lack of technological resources. Further, the society would eventually be subjugated by a capitalist competitor.
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>>73390459
Raising children and housekeeping is a lot of work. Who do you want raising your kids? The government? Day-time orphanages?

Letting women work gives them financial independence => more divorce, feminism, hypergamy, fatherless children, pretty much everything wrong with the western world.
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>>73390280
>free market
>in a place where the banks are owned by the gubmint and most industries are nationalized

are you an idiot?

yes, yes, you are.

>inb4 insult
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>>73390674
>The government? Day-time orphanages?

Extended families. They used to be standard in the West before capitalism came along and led to the nuclear family as the template, due the demand for a mobile labour force. Still common in many parts of the world, including south-east Europe.

I agree with your point about financial independence but without bullshit quotas and mandates for "equality" men would far outstrip female earning capacity. Hypergamy and divorce could easily be solved with abolishing no-fault divorce and increasing social pressure to marry sooner.
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>>73388333
Lol, and communism ensures everyone gets what they need and no one gets left out. These things don't work on paper. In real life what happens is a power hungry nutbag gets in power and millions die for political reasons.
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ITT: Polteens who know absolutely nothing about actual history

>working circumstances for the people improved

Not really, they just removed a whole bunch of people from being counted among the employment roles, and added the entire fucking military.
Their make-work projects were debt-fueled. The best projects for creating work were projects such as the autobahn, which was started long before Nazis got into power, they just took credit for it.


>nationalistic, pro own nation, but without hating others

Except jews and anybody not with them. Go read Hitlers speeches and own words.

>banks no longer in private hands

This right here says it all, it displays how you know absolutely nothing about national Socialism, and in fact are not even concerned about the concept of educating yourself on a topic before you speak about it, at all.
Interest rates barely fucking budged under the nazis. They barely did anything to the banks at all. They talked a good game on the run up to gaining power, but they abandoned those tenets as soon as they got into office.

>industries NOT nationalised, rather some kind of interventionism

Some industries were nationalized, godamn you just have no fucking clue. Like you never even spent one second learning about this subject in earnest.

>find a flaw

National Socialism's thousand year Reich lasted 12 years. It objectively failed, and got it's nation bombed to fuck and divided up by foreign powers, including the communists it was supposed to vanguard against.


>how hard would it be to show people there is nothing wrong with national socialism, since 'burning muh 6 gorillion' has officially nothing to do with the NatSoc ideology?

Pretty hard considering that Hitler deliberately spoke in front of cameras and denigrated the jews constantly, you blithering idiot.

You are the epitome of an edgy teen who is too lazy and vapid to even learn about the ideology that you drape over yourself as a fashion statement.
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>>73390101
>Most germans who lived under National Socialism
sauce?

>We're not talking about the war here, just about how National Socialism influenced daily life in germany
The war was the whole point of the regime. The development of roads? Meant for war. Heavy industry and weapon industry? War. Fitness programs? War. Activating German minorities in other countries? War.

You cant have Hitler without war.
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>>73391218
>73391218
yet i can walk around with a communist flag, but not with a nazi flag
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>The war was the whole point of the regime.
>The development of roads? Meant for war.
>Heavy industry and weapon industry? War.
>War. Fitness programs? War.
>Activating German minorities in other countries? War.

Nice propaganda you have there. It´s like people come on /pol/ for 2 weeks, get educated and leave and then retards like you are part of the new "wave" of ignorant people who have never read good history book of the time from 1900-1950.

For most germans, the pre-war NatSoc time was epic. Met several people, now 85-95 years old, all saying the same. They loved their country/people so much they even liked digging trenches as 12-15yo kids at the end of the war for the SS/wehrmacht.

>inb4 all propaganda
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>>73388678
>>73389239
>/pol/ and its brain dead numerology
Literally nigger-tier.
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>>73388333
>nationalistic, pro own nation, but without hating others
ayy
Whole German economy was based around war.
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>>73390101
>Most germans who lived under National Socialism (or Nazism, if you want to call it that) still speak about it in a very positive way.
So will the Russians who lived under communism.
That obviously means communism was great, right?
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>>73391135
Marriage rates are declining though, and that isn't going to change any time soon. If we were to abolish no fault divorce, which should never have been introduced in the first place, marriage would decline even further. Feminists would start encouraging women to #boycott marriage. The cultural revolution is in full swing; only state intervention can sort this mess out. Preventing women from working for money and owning property is the first step.
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>>73391926
I´ve been shitposting here for more than two years, Hans. No need to play wise oldfag.

>Nice propaganda you have there.
not an argument

>For most germans, the pre-war NatSoc time was epic. Met several people, now 85-95 years old, all saying the same.
Nice scientific sauce you have there, now find me a official statistics.
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>>73392336

Go look for that shit yourself if you are interested slavshit. I´m not your walking encyclopedia. For someone who is on /pol/ for 2 years already you know awefully little. Guess shitposting is really all you do so I won´t bother any further.
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>>73392640
Thanks for your input, it was very helpfull.
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>>73391257
>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>73390483
you ungrateful shill the fact that national socialism worked so well that other countries were about to follow is what lead to war.

If it wasn't for national socialism germany would have starved to death in the 1930s.

In the year before Hitler came to Power there were 270.000 suicides in germany. A loaf of bread cost millions of reichsmark. An entire nation was starving to death and the rest of the world didn't give a fuck. You wouldnt be here today (unless youre a proxy or achmed) if it wasnt for national socialism.
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>>73388333
It'll come back, anon. The harder we try to bring it back in real life, the faster it comes.
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>>73388333
The pesudo-military pomp and shitty art and literature are big red flags.
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>>73393159
>A loaf of bread cost millions of reichsmark
because you socialized the creation of money
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>>73393257
lol what.
Germany starved to death because the treaty of versailles which even main stream historians agree was a complete injustice with the only purpose to destroy germany.

No nation on earth could have survived it.
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>>73388606
>actually having sjw friends
I've never met any irl
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>>73388417
>I'm possible.
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>>73390091
Nothing saying that they can't but they ought to be more worried about keeping their husband, house & kids in ship shape order
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>>73388333
>working circumstances for the people improved
>Destruction of unions
>Wages lowered by half
Also opponents have no right to speak because "Muhhh unpatriotic"
Literally SJW mentality
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>>73388606
Please be in Charleston
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My fellow Belgian man lets start the revolution
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>>73389803
go back
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>>73388333
>officially nothing to do with the NatSoc ideology
I still would rather be an Italian Fascist because most National Socialists wouldn't accept me into their circles for being a mixed race mestizo Jew.
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>>73388606
Feminists are so condescending. They think you need to be educated into having the correct desires
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>>73393240
>shitty art
They literally burned and sold shitty, degenerate art.
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>shitty, degenerate art.
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>>73395091
>wages lowered by half
You forgot the 500% rents reduction by eliminating speculation in property markets by investment banks. SOUND LIKE A FAMILIAR CORRUPT BANKING PRACTICE TO ANYONE?
>literally SJW mentality
You shills are going to wear out the label 'SJW' by the abuse of Tu Quoque fallacy, im sure that's your intention tho.

;^)
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>>73389011
Damn. This.
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There is NO NATONALISM in socialism especially modern socialism. Beholden to the leftwing ideologues.
All socialist thinking leads to transgenderism
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>>73399434
Are you mentally retarded?
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OP says National socialism. what op really means is I HATE THE RICH. aka marxism
SOCIALIST THINKING LEADS TO NAZISM
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>>73399615
NOPE your an anti capitalist aren't you!
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>>73388508
Nazis and NatSocs don't always go hand-in-hand. A Jew could easily be a NatSoc.
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>>73399909
Anticapitalists are all socialist who follow ,or soon will, MARX
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>>73389803
Neither Nazism or Facism are inherently intertwined with National Socialism.
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Anyone who uses 'socialist' in their title is A MARXIST simple as that.
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>>73400306
Nazism literally a shortening of national socialism. It's as intertwined as it gets.
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>>73400345
You blame the wealthy for your woes,you become a socialist
THESE DAYS:You cut your country off from global trade you become a socialist.I'm not talking about historically I talking NOW.
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>>73400803
The goal of a socialist is to destroy capitalism. You destroy capital you destroy YOUR NATION.
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>>73400695
nazism and nazi are actually slanders used by the jew press after hitler was released from prison the natsocs started using it as a badge of honor
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>>73400888
I don't care if you support FIAT currency or GOLD backed. if you reject either or both YOU DESTROY YOUR NATION.. That is what the Marxist want.
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>>73401068
If you reject your nations role in the global economy/marketplace you have swallowed the Marxist doctrine.
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>>73401068
capitalism isn't an actual political ideology it is an economic structure. the western nations are republics and so was the third reich. the third reich was socialist in that the government directly controlled the banks, utilities and international trading. it is a damn fine system of government.
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>>73401659
The government controls YOUR bank, who you can buy & sell to/from, how much electricity you can use ...you want this?
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>>73402272
The socialist government controls how much you earn..
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>>73401659
Socialist POLITICIANS control the economic structure...this is what you think is better than what you have now?
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>>73388333
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Because if you look at the 25 planks that i just posted....it is literally all left wing bullshit.

Once you understand that nationalism is left wing shit started by the jabobins in the french revolution...then maybe you can come over and be a reactionary. We are against nationalism and globalism. Country, not nation.

We want the Welsh, English, British, Scots, Irish...and even the rest of the old Empire to all be in one unified empire again.

Nationalists would break up that empire into little bits...like ghandi did. globalists seek european union bullshit.

Think Articles of Confederation or Feudalism....pre enlightenment
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>>73401659
Socialist policies in the USA have probably let the criminals at Bear-sterns & The federal reserve etc,do what they did.Totally corrupt the capitalist economic structure.
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>>73403022
yes, im aware i fucked up by calling the british their own group...thats on me, i recount that
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Reminder even fascists admit fascism was a mistake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pib6KSKm7gE
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>>73403200
That discussion is for a /pol/ thread in the distant future.
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>>73403200
>mosley
OK sadiq thanks that's really convinced me.
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>>73388333
Far too vilified by this point. It needs a new name and a new face if it stands any chance of gaining public support.
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>>73388508
>>73399909
>>73400345
>>73400695
>>73400888
>>73401068
>>73401531
>>73403022
This is just how politically illiterate /pol/retards are.
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>>73388333
>Find a flaw...
No one can guarantee that the next generation of NS leaders will be as honorable as the previous generation. As shitty as constitutional republics can be they still make sure it's really hard to concentrate power in the hands of the few and even then, if the elites piss off enough people, the people can still vote for outsiders to oust the current elites(Trump, right wing uprising in Europe).
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>>73388333
Rename it, tripsbro.
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>>73388333
>>anti commies
expect natsoc and commies are two sides of one shekel
both require to surrender your wealth to state
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What's with the meme that the economic system would never work in the long run?

Couldn't you just use a Nordic style socialism, and with the nationalist element to balance out the negatives effects of socialism?
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>>73403867
>No one can guarantee that the next generation of NS leaders will be as honorable as the previous generation.
This is the self admitted weakness of one of the leading figures of the Nordic Resistance Movement, but they have in their framework for how the country should be run a system to ensure such corruption is impossible, alternatively easy to depose.
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>>73404428
It doesn't rely on foreign slave workers and mass immigration for muh growth thus "it wouldn't work in the long run". It's a cucklogic thing, where any attempts at being autarkic is considered as heretical.
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>>73388333

>find a flaw

The entire nation is effectively enslaved, very limited personal liberty, no opposition in the case the government turns to tyranny... Help white people by enslaving them and denying them fundemental rights kek.
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>>73405477
>The entire nation is effectively enslaved,
ROFL
It is the modern capitalist democracy that enslaves people. Not a national socialist society where the people are healthy, free and feel well, unlike all modern states
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>>73405477
Are we even allowed to have a true opposition to our current government? Oh no, that's now against the law.
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>>73404428

>Nordic style socialism

Sick of this meme, Denmark and friends aren't socialist! Not only that they survive from oil!

>>73405757

No, and how does it feel? Its not a good thing.
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>>73403825
Says sweden
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>>73405854
It's a flaw of all governments, National Socialism is no different. Now I hope you have paid your TV license and the rest of our hundreds of taxes.
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>>73399615
You didn't check the flag before asking.
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>>73406007
I judge the individual, not the collective.
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>>73405854
>denmark and sweden survives because of oil
wat?
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>>73390249
They didn't seem to succeed at the last part did they?
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>>73391257
>barely did anything at all to the banks
>what is the Reichsmark

>defends how the jews were responsible for a lot of shit and even declared war on germany from within their borders
You smell like a dirty jew trying to spread disinformation
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>>73400242
You know capitalism and communism are just two sides to the same jew world order right?
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