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Double Dissolution called. July 2 election.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/
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>>73357346
How is Oz? Are you winning the fight against immigration and Islam?
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>>73357346

>Full senate election.
>New senate voting rules will be in effect.
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have you fucks had a stable government for more than six weeks in the last decade

you're like a fucking latin junta at this point
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>>73357433

We've stopped the boats.

PNG recently decided that detaining people at Manus Island is against their constitution. Aus Govt standing firm that no one will be re-settled in Australia.

This country is at risk of becoming an SJW hellhole if Labor gets power again. We can't let it happen.
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>>73357622
>PNG recently decided that detaining people at Manus Island is against their constitution
lol
didn't they just open up the detention center and gave them free access to the island, so its legal within PNG

they probs gonna regret that in a few months.
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Vote for me 2016
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>>73357346
everyone knew it was going to bel held then
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>>73357497
all because some fucksticks thought it'd be a great idea to have a woman prime-minister.

LEARN FROM US. Don't let it happen to your cuntry.
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>>73357805
they said they could settle in PNG and of course they dont want to. I have no problem with letting people in to australia who are true refugees as long as there is no welfare for them but these dicks only care about coming here to leech. If it was purely about their safety why not settle in PNG and take the offer? because thy want to claim australian tax payer money.
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>>73358145
>because thy want to claim australian tax payer money.
yep, its not about safety, it's about freeshit and qualitity of life.
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Who else /greens/ here?
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>>73357346
No way I'm voting for some PM wearing a poofter salmon-coloured tie.
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>>73357346
I'm voting minor parties then liberal.
Turnbull's a kike who fucked up the NBN and superannuation.
>tones will never be PM again
He can come back right?
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>>73358145
>I have no problem with letting people in to australia who are true refugees
Fucking idiot. There are enough "true refugees" in the world to destroy western society. NO REFUGEES period. We have had more than enough already.
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>>73358233
Into the gas chamber you go.
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>>73358233
ALP/Greens tbqh mate
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>I'm going to be in DC then
kek
enjoy your auspol, cucks
>>73358145
idk what you think refugees are fleeing but in PNG you can catch 14 years in prison for sodomy. PNG is considered the worst place in the world for gender violence. UNICEF says children there are some of the most vulnerable in the world - half of all reported rapes are from children aged 15 or under. Nearly 100% of women in the highlands region are beaten by their husbands. Why the fuck would you settle a person fleeing persecution there?
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>>73358531
>superannuation
What's your complaint there m8?

You think rich cunts should be able to avoid paying any tax ever?
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>>73358603
Pinko commie scum
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>>73358672
>Nearly 100% of women in the highlands region are beaten by their husbands
Then the muslims would fit right in m8.
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>>73358086
ruddy never even got to stretch his legs properly
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>>73358233
Get the fuck out of our country you traitor cunt
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>>73358790
>women fleeing violence would fit right in in the worst place in the world for gendered violence
Let's go back to basics m80: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum
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>>73358915
>muh wimminz
shut up
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>>73358233
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>>73358977
>shut up
okay good chat
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>>73358915
>women fleeing violence
They are not fleeing DOMESTIC violence m8. They live domestic violence. Domestic violence is their culture.
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i hope you guys elect a fat muslim tranny
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>>73359090
please no, not someone from melbourne
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>>73359128
>Shorten wins
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>>73358566
>>73358826
>>73358733


Lol, stop reading Murdoch trash. This country was built by three things; immigrants, infrastructure and strong unions.

>>73358603

Mate, it might be hard to be a lefty in such a conservative, backward country but know your not alone. Know that more people are waking up. We will win the battle for history because because we are right.
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Turnbull just appointed a Greens candidate (fat SJW on right) to be in charge of all Social Policy in his office:

>Lin Hatfield Dodds the Green Senate candidate for the ACT for two elections running has been appointed a deputy secretary in Prime Minister and Cabinet in charge of all things social policy. Many Liberal MPs apoplectic.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/greens_candidate_now_a_deputy_head_of_turnbulls_department/
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>>73359210
>immigrants
If this means post WW2 immigrants then that is bullshit. The country was already built. That's why they came.
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>>73359066
Violence is violence, why does it make a difference if that violence is ISIS, or a papua new guinean rapist, or a wilson security guard? Every state does and should have a responsibility to the security of stateless persons.
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>>73359285

So what determines a good immigrant from a bad one is simply the date they came?

Fucking conservatives are so retarded
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>>73359219
>Turnbull just appointed a Greens candidate
He is pushing too hard too fast. I have a feeling he is not going to last as leader.
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BRING BACK THE TONE
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Labor needs to be wedged on """""refugees""""". They're going to fall over themselves not to talk about it before the election. Guaranteed Liberal loss otherwise.
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>>73359388
>So what determines a good immigrant from a bad one is simply the date they came?
Who said that you disgusting poofter?

I just said that modern immigrants need to be separated from pioneers who came to a pile of dirt and built something from nothing.
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>>73359294
No we don't. Australia has a responsibility to Australians, not 3rd world hordes, be they 'stateless" or citizens of 3rd world countries.

3rd world people have a 3rd world culture. When contained, like jn PNG and Nauru, they only rape and attack their own, just like in the home countries. That is normal and expected behaviour for them. If we let them into Australia, they rape and attack Australians, as we have seen with Apex in Melbourne and Lebanese/Muslims in Sydney.

3rd world people will always be 3rd world people doing 3rd world things. They only question is not letting them get into proximity to Australians to do 3rd world things against us.
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>>73359451

We need to pray to KEK for some Meme Magic.
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>>73359510
Turnbull is too much of a softcock to give us a race election m8.

He can't take the criticism from his lefty friends.
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>>73359451
my stance is fuck the boats and anyone who attempts to come here without documentation. We accept a shitload of refugees from the air and conventional means, just don't sneak in. I dont give a fuck if you're an economic or war refugee just give us your identification and papers so we can check on you. otherwise fuck off we're full.
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>>73359598
Oh I meant to reply to something else >>73359451
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>>73359450
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if these boats cross into international waters, they are fair game to anyone and anything... why isn't anyone sinking their dumbs asses in the open ocean?
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>>73359613
>otherwise fuck off we're full
No we are full anyway m8. Niggers and muslims have nothing positive to add here. I don't care how good their papers are or whether they fly in.
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>>73358233
yep
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this top bloke remembers a double dissolution
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>>73359431
If the ALA win or other Right wing meme parties win Senate seats, we will likely see a breakaway group of Liberal & Nat Seantors forming a de facto conservative coalition with them (ie they cross the floor) to hold the Senate balance of power.
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>>73359743
I hope you are just out for a cheap and easy troll m8.

Fucken greens I tell ya.
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>>73357622
Had some save the refugees people approach me at uni the other day with a petition to release all detainees from manus and settle them in aus right away.
Told me they "have been tortured" and other things like that.
I ask him if they had all been checked out in terms of background etc he told me they had.
Still didn't sign the petition since I thought I didn't know enough personally on the subject, some fat hoe says I'm disgusting.
Go home and do my research and surprise surprise the torture claims haven't been proven and where just allegations and they hadn't even undergone any background checks on the refugees.

Fuck the greens and Mr shortenshortenq
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>>73359790
>If the ALA win
m8 no-one has ever heard of them. They won't even get 2% of the vote.

>a breakaway group of Liberal & Nat Senators
Maybe, but unlikely. Cory Bernardi might do it though.
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>>73359792
>tfw you realise the greens are 100% going to grow their seat count in the election according to literally every opinion poll
feels good to be a lefty scum faggot tbqh
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>>73359451
Labor want to double the number of Apex gang members and Muslim rapists imported into Australia to 30,000 per year
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>>73359658
>"Old mate Tony Abbott didn't even hesitate when I asked him to throw on my speed dealers today even insisting that we were to have some Friday arvo skitz times," Smith wrote alongside the photo on Facebook with the hashtag #toblazedtobephased.
Aussies literally talking jibberish
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>>73359580
Yes, we do. If we didn't want to accept responsibility for the welfare of refugees, we shouldn't have signed a series of documents acknowledging that such a responsibility exists.
As to the question of gang culture, if you're suggesting that Australia didn't have a gang culture or any organised criminal elements before we upped migration from the MENA region spiked, you're on drugs. What about all those Indian students getting bashed? What about all those skinny white ice addicts you see loitering around the sunbury line? Are these symptoms of the evil muslims too?
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>>73359887
Not true m8. Greens will likely lose a seat.
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>>73359790
>we will likely see
This has not happened before. What makes you think it 'likely'?
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>>73359580
We need to kill anyone who doesn't follow our laws, deporting is too good for them.
Anyone dealing in illicit substances like ICE needs to be able to be killed on sight.

This generation is far too soft, we need to send a message, scare the shits into not wanting to come here.

Also all people should be paid equal by the government regardless of race, this favouring abos and immigrants needs to stop.
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>>73359294
in that case wouldnt all the residents of PNG have the right to seek asylum in australia?
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>>73359904
>Labor want to double the number of Apex gang members and Muslim rapists imported into Australia to 30,000 per year
At least they'll all be sent to Melbourne, right?
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>>73359964
>Anyone dealing in illicit substances like ICE needs to be able to be killed on sight.
Jesus, ease up on the AM radio famalam
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>>73359927
>we shouldn't have signed a series of documents
The only thing you said that is true m8.
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>>73359933
http://www.galaxyresearch.com.au/polling/
http://www.roymorgan.com/morganpoll
Both major polling sites show definite growth prospects, you can easily find more
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>>73359693
Fuck oath. We need to cut down on our overall migration. The brain drain from asian middle powers locking australians out of white collar careers and driving up the cost of housing. That's our migration issue that the govt is doing nothing about. Cbf googling it but I'm pretty sure it's in excess of 100k immigrants per year we're taking in. So we have room for those, but not people fleeing persecution. That's fucked up.
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>>73359792
No, I agree with their policies.
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>>73359875
A de facto breakaway group, not a formal break. Remember Coalition backbenchers can vote freely on any bill, no formal party discipline like Labor stopping them.

ALA are gettig pushed in the normie and conservative blog media by Liberal Party conservatives disillusioned with Turnbull. Miranda Devine, Andrew Bolt, Jo Nova etc. have all mentioned them and advocated voting for them as a Conservative choice for Liberal voters to the right of Turnbull.

Because of that, and Gert Wilders blessing, I think ALA are the best right wing meme party/vehicle for the upper house.
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>>73360136
my man
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>>73359911
Sorry its not in Spanish mate
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>>73359792

I love it how science-based economic and envroinmental policy is now considered 'trolling'.
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Daily reminder that a multi-party system is infinitely better than the two party """""system"""""
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>>73360099
m8 you are obviously a pleb who doesn't understand shit. I don't know why I waste my time with you.

See Antony Green here on likely DD Senate prospects:

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2016/04/the-turnbull-governments-senate-position-would-be-little-better-after-a-double-dissolution.html
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>>73360040
Sydney will get Apex/Sudaneae gangs soon too, as will every Australian city. Sydney is already overrun by Muslim crime gangs, Arab and Afghan.
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Is there any Trudeau-level cucks lurking in your parties, Ozbros?
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Post your local MP.

Fiona Scott here (Liberal, Lindsay). Voting for her because she's a top qt.
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Who's winning in the opinion polls?
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>>73360400
Labor but it's very close
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>>73357346
VOTE LIBERAL

LABOUR, GREENS AND LIBERAL DEMOCRATS WILL OPEN THE BORDER
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>>73360359
Turnbull would love to Trudeau but he's on thin ice
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>>73360400
It's literally 50/50 right now.

The Coalition are still the clear favourites though. Labor has to win 21 seats to win back government and that's a lot to win in just one election.
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>>73360248
So the greens are for decreasing immigration then?
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>>73360333
Senate voting rules are totally different now, so it changes everything.

Optional preferential Senate voting. First time it is being used, so no one really knows how people will vote and how it will all turn out.

You just pick 6 above the line, or 12 below the line, and then you can let your vote exhast rather than go to anyone else. Changes everything.

http://www.aec.gov.au/voting/How_to_vote/Voting_Senate.htm

>Voting is different this election:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuUxZlZygO0
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>>73360362
this cuck lord for Banks (lib)
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>>73360498

But a lot of electoral boundaries have been redrawn which would notionally give Labor 7 of those 21 seats for free.
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>>73360591
Funnily enough, when the Greens first started as a party, they were opposed to high levels of immigration for environmental reasons, but they've been hijacked by Trotskyists and are now rabidly pro-immigration whatever the cost.
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>>73360437
>>73360498
I pray for your success. Fuck Labor.
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>>73360591
>science based economci/environmental policy
>decreasing immigration

Pick one and only one, Murdoch
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>>73360331
Good thing you have three major parties I guess?
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Another question: How do you feel about the Alternate Vote/Instant Runoff Voting? Because this what Mr. CurrentYear/04/20 wants to bring to Canada.* My research tells me that it doesn't make a difference.

* Of course, he's lying. He's not going to change the system that brought him to power.
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>>73360591
They put science away when it conflicts with political cuckrectness or the idea of 'evil corporations'.
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>>73359210
It was literally built by criminals.
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>>73360709
Can you explain how it "scientifically" makes sense to protect the environment of a desert continent with limited carrying capacity by importing millions upon millions of illiterate third worlders and Chinese who lack a concept of "environmentalism"?
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>>73358672
Fleeing war you fucking cuck idiot
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>>73360359
Sarah Hansen Young for the Greens, but not even the Greens take her seriously. She has run for leadership positions twice and no one else in the Greens party voted for her.
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>>73360755
I wouldn't change it. Eliminating the spoiler effect is a good thing.
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>>73360331
>Daily reminder that a multi-party system is infinitely better than the two party """""system"""""

How is the Aussie system not two party?

Your lower house is dominated by the Coalition and Labor Party. Seems two party to me.
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>>73360498
>>73360658
Is it possible to run a campaign against Labor being un-Australian on the basis that they use the American spelling?
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>>73360722
Four. There's Labor, the Coalition (which is comprised of two separate parties: Liberals and Nationals) and the Greens.
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>>73357346
I'm a burger who has been living here for a short time.

What does double dissolution election mean.

Is this gonna let mud and shit skins in if something happens to turnbull?

I dont what this place to become commiefornia, I fucking love Australia and I want it to stay angry at shit minorities and lefties.
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>>73360755
I'm very glad we have it because I can put minor parties first without splitting the vote for my less-disliked major party
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>>73360898
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_O%27Malley

Fun fact: It was an American who was responsible for changing the spelling from Labour to Labor.
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>>73360934
>What does double dissolution election mean.
When the entire House and Senate is up for re-election. Normally it's just the entire House and half the Senate.
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SFP/LDP report in.
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>>73359210
>>73359210
>country built by immigrants
>on the right side on history

Wrong on both. Literally a cuck mentality
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Australian politics is a joke
https://youtu.be/JDLAUmqp8f4
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>>73360934
In a normal election, half the senate seats go up for election.

In a double dissolution election, every senate seat goes up for election. A DD can only be brought on in a specific situation outlined in the constitution.

A DD lets the government 'flush out' the entire senate - it can be beneficial if they have broad public support but it can also be risky.
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>>73360613
It seems much fairer but really complicated
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>>73360445
Greens will open the border
Labor will double the refugees
Liberal Democrats have no chance of winning

Family First and Liberals are our top preference but Liberals have a stronger chance of winning
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>>73360639
His head looks like it bobs back and forth on that neck a lot, be careful anon.
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>>73360685
Please m8 that is very defamatory.
Lee Rhiannon is an orthodox Stalinist trained in Moscow, not a Trotskyist.

>The Greens and fundamentalism
>BY MARK AARONS
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2011/may/1307065885/mark-aarons/comment
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>>73359294
According to what authority?
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>>73357346
seriously, is there a fucking western state in the world with a stable 'democratic' regime ?
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>>73360934

>Senate has 6 year fixed terms.
>Elections are held every 3 years.
>Only half the senate faces election each election cycle.
>Double-dissolution is when the entire parliament is dissolved and the House and entire Senate are re-elected.
>PM can only trigger a DD election if the senate blocks the same piece of legislation twice within a few months.
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>>73360905
You guys spell it Labor, not Labour?
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>>73361061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMI4Z7ri8A
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>>73359388
Whether or not they are willing to leave their previous identities behind and become australian you fucking idiot
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>>73361189
Yes, see here >>73360979
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>>73361107
Feels like a mirror of our parties
Labour and greens can go fuck themselves
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>>73361046
Damn, where'd you get your hands on that semi automatic lever action assault shotgun?
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>>73361189
We spell the word 'labour' but the party is called 'Labor' at the insistence of a burger called King O'Malley who was influential in the Labor Party at the start of the 20th century.
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I honestly don't understand how the LibLabs can even form a government anymore. Everyone hates both of them, everyone I know or talk to preferences them both last and second last.
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>>73360836
HIGH TEST!
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>>73361037
>>73361081
>>73361160
Okay thanks a lot bros.

So could this turn out better than worse? Could we end up with stronger Liberal party presence? I'd rather this was a gain than a loss.
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>>73361160
So are half elected to a three year term? Otherwise everyone would be up for election again next time. How do they decide?
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>>73359685
Some of them do go missing. One got run over
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>>73360905
LDP (Lolbetarians) and Family First (Christian Right) have Senators too. Palmer United (fat maniac party) still have Dio Wang in WA. And all the indepedents and defectors.

Doubt they will survive the change in Senate laws and double dissolution.
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>>73361290
Where do you live? I live in Western Sydney and everyone I talk to loves the Liberals because "muh Labor debt and deficit".
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>>73360613
And the high Court could still deem it unconstitutional, which would be a solid kek.
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>>73361189
>>73361289
I find it convenient.
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>>73360040
they wanted to dump them in outback towns at one point
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>>73361317
>Could we end up with stronger Liberal party presence?

No. There's going to be a swing against the Liberals and there will be a significant number of minor parties in the Senate because the threshold to get in is reduced in DD elections.

Turnbull should have called the election shortly after he replaced Abbott when he was still popular. He could lose this.
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>>73359887
Enjoy your nigger rape fucking melbournite
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>>73359685
>if these boats cross into international waters, they are fair game to anyone and anything... why isn't anyone sinking their dumbs asses in the open ocean?
Because that would drastically worsen Australia's international standing once it makes itse way onto Liveleak.

Bad standing = Australia gets pancaked by various Azn shitholes because America stopped giving them cool shit.
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>>73360755
Preferential voting is the only way to go senpai.
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>>73360062
You like that degenerate shit or something?
Also who listens to AM other than footy/cricket freaks?
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>>73361475
Fuck. NO!!!!!

Even I know Labor/Shorten is bad fucking news!!
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>>73361317
It means potentially a more diverse Senate because 12 per state will be elected, and therefore the quota is half that of a usual half-Senate election.
I'm hoping for a Greens balance of power.
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>>73359388
>So what determines a good immigrant from a bad one is simply the date they came?

Where they came from, what their culture is, and whether they're willing to assimilate. Third world refugees, especially muzzie scum, do not in any way at all make first world countries better. There is literally no good reason at all to want more Islam in your country.
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>>73361244
From Satan
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>>73360362
>she's a top qt
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>>73360185
Fuck off kike
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>>73360958
>I'm very glad we have it because I can put minor parties first without splitting the vote for my less-disliked major party

But isn't that just the same as putting a cross next to your less disliked major party in the end of the day?

Or do parties there get funding based on first preferences?
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>>73360821
Aye, some are fleeing war. Some are fleeing religious persecution, or political persecution. A lot of them are fleeing sexual persecution, because africa doesn't like gays and often tries to kill them.
North Korea produces an awful lot of refugees, but NK is not a war zone.
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>>73360613
if they are gonna have logos for major parties they should have for minor parties as well
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>>73360248
>science based
>anti-nuclear

Pick one.
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>>73361101
The "optional" preference part is a really good change. Before you were forced to preference everyone, even crazy communist parties (like the Greens) and meme parties etc. Now you can say I'd rather my vote die and not count for anyone, than count for them.

Also in practice people just voted 1 for an automatic party list of preferences, which they had no idea what it was and saw there vote flow in ways they had no intention of going. We have had unemployed people from meme parties (Motorists Party) have Senators elected on 1% of the vote (supposed to need 14.3%), just because of automatic party preference list sending preference votes flowing in ways voters never intended. That can't happen any more.
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Leaks when?
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>>73361656

(you)
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>>73361456
>His smile and optimism: gone
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>>73360685
and this is precisely why i'm always inches away from punching every greens supporter i meet

they have no idea they're watermelons, green on the outside, red on the inside.

fuck labor, but i'm with bob carr on the immigration issue. our country can't fucking handle it, we don't have the resources, the water, and our agribusiness has been taking hit after hit for 3 decades.
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>>73361619
Yeah they get funding based on how many people put them first. I think?
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>>73361146
>does have a responsibility
The CRSR, and to a lesser extent, the ICCPR, and to an even lesser extent, the UDHR. All of which Australia signed its name on the dotted line acknowledging that it agrees with everything contained in said documents.
>should have a responsibility
My personal morals.
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>>73361609
I'd add a large number of Greeks/Italians/wogs in general to that list, too. Everyone just looks at the food/coffee they bring and forget that their main import is organised crime, money laundering, and tax evasion.
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>>73361619
They do get funding based on 1st preference votes but that's beside the point. I genuinely would prefer the party I put 1st to win the seat and instant runoff means I can express that intention. I'm not forced to vote strategically like FPTP.
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No way in hell I would vote for Turnbull after he fucked the NBN into the ground.


FUCK ABBOTT
FUCK TURNBULL
FUCK MURDOCH
FUCK BABY BOOMERS
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>>73360125
The people fleeing persecution just turn around and bring persecution to the places they move into because they have no concept of how to function in a secular democratic state where nobody is under any obligation to give a fuck about Islam and nobody is accustomed to the violent third world mentality. It's already happening in Europe and there's no good reason at all to think it won't happen if Australia opens the doors again. And besides, there are plenty of safe places to stop between where they're running from and where they're headed, they just want the benefits of living in a first world country but they're unwilling to change themselves to function within one.
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>>73357433
I'm muslim australian (not religious but muslim background). Most muslim Australians I think are in the same category, we don't have the same problems as Europe. But then again, we took in far more Shia who aren't anything like the salafists.

Australia has a smart immigration policy. Take in skilled migrants and controlled amounts of refugees. Enough to make sure the australian ethos continues. I think our politicians are learning from european mistakes and put more effort into assimilation.
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>>73361625
No, they are fucking Muslims.
Christians are fighting.

You are a cuck.
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>>73357346
>fagget on fagget crime
victims: 23,130,000
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>>73361866
i feel you brah, those sneaky libs cause nothing but strife, but the only alternative is a SJW-imposed hell on earth.

fuck this country.
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>>73361786
Oh no, paper.
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>>73361703
>>73362008
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>>73361866
Blame Howard for giving Telstra to his mate
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>>73361398
I really don't see how desu
Seems a meme challange, like the gay marriage one

For most of our history Australia elected Senators as a winner takes all block. Proportional Senate voting was only brought in the the 1970s by an act if parliament. Don't see why an act of parliament couldn't change it again.
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Tell me honestly Greens, does people owning this in Australia trigger you THAT much?
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>>73361886
It's happening in Europe because nobody can crack a history book and see how much of a disaster a literal open borders policy was back in the '80s and '90s, particularly for Germany. Australia wouldn't have an open borders policy. The two most influential aussie refugee advocates, Con K, the dude who runs ASRC, and Julian Burnside, both say they want to see onshore processing of asylum claims. We won't be letting in just anyone, just those with legitimate claims. You have no data you can produce to show that persecuted individuals manifest that persecution on resettlement.
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>>73357622
>We've stopped the boats.
If only we stopped all the Muslims and chinks.
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>>73362061
Civil war is an eventuality, I'm just hoping its sooner rather than later.
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>>73362135
Only bad guys should have guns and that's what makes them bad guys. - greenie logic
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>>73362071
What kind of authority were you hoping for? I don't think I have a Trump quote that supports me here.
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>>73361866
There's more important things to worry about than your
>muh torrent-pipe
>muh megabits
unless you're a NEETcuck of course
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>>73359927
Pol is not the place for you. Fuck with your shit opinions and feelings.
Syrians are trash and have no place in Australia.
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>>73362179
You're a fucking idiot if you think the people who want onshore processing will do vetting.
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>>73362364
This

Fuck off, we're full!
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>>73361602
Because of the new optional preference rules the Greens will likely win a lot of Senators at the expense of Labor.

Because the Left wing vote is split 1/3rd Green to 2/3rd Labor, that will now be reflected in the Senate. In the lower house it doesn't matter because those votes flow to Labor, but in the upper house they will now stay with the Greens and count for more (becuase there will be less preference flows against them, thanks to votes exhasting)

For Labor to govern they will need a coalition with the Greens in the Senate. That's why the Greens supported the voting law changes, and Labor didn't.
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>>73362258
Oh you know, something with Uthority over the state. Example: Literally fucking nothing.
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>>73362135
>greens complain that a few people have too many guns and want to limit it to 3 per owner with the reason that criminals could burgle them
>greens set up a website where you can search registered guns and gun owners by postcode
www.toomanyguns.org
I seriously hope none of you vote for these idiots
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>>73362441
>>73362364
>get out of my hugbox
You guys are just a different flavour of leftist.
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>>73361643
They probably will, as long they are registered parties or groups.

Not sure, we shall see.
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>>73360804
>Can you explain how it "scientifically" makes sense to protect the environment of a desert continent with limited carrying capacity by importing millions upon millions of illiterate third worlders and Chinese who lack a concept of "environmentalism"?

I remember arguing with an insane liberal on that point wrt Canada.

Also, I'm sure that these people would look down on the US Cities of the Southwest, even though that is what they are exactly proposing.
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>>73362507
We should just go vigilante
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>>73362117
It hinges on the exhausted vote. If you number through 1-6 above (or 1-12 below) the line, and none of those candidates get a high enough proportion of votes, your vote is thrown out. I don't have a problem with that personally, and I think it's much better than the previous system, but it's still up to the high court to decide whether we can throw away votes. I'm not a constitutional lawyer so I have no idea which way they'll decide, but they're certainly considering it seriously.
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>>73357346
We have a stark choice with the two main globalist party's the Turd sandwich party under the Tones stabbing Turncoat or the Cuck's united under the Soros .org financed and Union thug backed party of Shortass.
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>>73362507
Is David Shoebridge just a special kind of stupid or does he just have an unrelenting hate of law abiding gun owners?
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>>73362522
Hugbox? No mate. Im just here to discuss real Australian issues and crying fucking refugees is not one. Not our problem. Fuck off we're full.
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Anyone who believes liberal aren't winning is deluded. Labour gets in once every 2-3 decades and shorten sure as fuck isn't about to change that. Couple that with Europe and the Islam question and we sure as fuck aren't about to go cuck mode.
We're holding out for a true nationalist and until then it's business as usual.
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>>73362676
>reeee our government is incompetent we only have top 5 prosperous nation reeeeeee
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>>73362179
The only reason I don't have data is because the media in the European countries taking in the most refugees is because those same countries are and have been engaged in constant suppression of facts and data that would paint the rapefugees in the extremely negative light that they deserve. The only reason we even know about the massive number of sexual assaults that occurred during New Year celebrations is because enough anecdotes from individual witnesses surfaced on social media that a clear pattern emerged. After that it was discovered that not only did the German police lie, but that they had also covered up similar incidents in other cities on the same night, and it was later discovered that similar things had been happening for a few years in Sweden but had been suppressed by the media and the police for fear of lending credence to the SD.

It is a categorical denial of simple truth because facing that truth destroys the leftist dogma that all people are the same and that all cultures have equal merit. Green parties across the world are all eager participants in this mass delusion and if given their way the entire first world will be flooded and irrevocably ruined by an endless horde of immigrants and "refugees". Such people have no business making policy decisions on any level.
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Who here just voting for whichever party will fix our internet

Even though I care more about the future of our country, and it's heritage, the internet trumps over all
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>>73361957
Fark off, fucking lebos
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https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/728499211990241281


JUST
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>>73362786
We're not prospering you porcupine, the rest of the world has gone to shit, big time.
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>>73362845
Make me
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>>73361786
Australia has no responsibility under any international convention or law.

That's not how our constitution works. All an international convention/treaty Australia signs up to does, is give the *right* of the Federal Parliament to pass laws to effect that treaty/convention. The right is purely optional and has no obligation in Australian law for it to be done, nor is it ever a source of Australian law.

We have no obligations whats so ever under any of the conventions you cited.

If you love 3rd world people so much, why not move yourself to the 3rd world to be in proximity to them, rather than move 3rd world people here to be in proximity to other Australians? That way only you get to experience the 3rd world "cultures" and their ways and mores of rape and crime, not other Australians.
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>>73362832
NBN finally began construction in my area. Probably wont be relevant in my vote now
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>>73362824
I don't know why anyone thinks Europe matters these days. We're a bigger economy than half of those cunts and Asia just walked in with a baseball bat.
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>>73361957
Any immigration policy that increases the presence of Islam in a country is a bad immigration policy.
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>>73361957
Australia was 98% white in 1950 and 90% Anglo-Celtic/British

There should be no immigrants at all.
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>>73357622

only boats, not legal immigrants or most illegal immigrants
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>>73361957
As a Muslim Arab you have no idea what the Australian "ethos" is.

You will always be a vistor in a foreign land here.
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>>73360362
I see this qt 3.14 like everyday
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>>73362947
>>73362947
I've got the fastest net in the country and the upload is less than 5mbps. The internet is a non argument. The problem is sub marine cables.
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>>73362364
>Syrians are trash and have no place in Australia.
This we don't need more Islamic filth in this country to destroy it from the inside out.
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>>73359294

o great now we gotta resettle all of png
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>>73362576
A lot of people took the gay marriage challange seriously too, when it was always just a meme challange that would be tossed. We'll see.

NSW has had optional preferential voting for a few decades now.
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>>73362832
So Greens? Because Labor has watered down their NBN policy.

I don't know what the other minor parties said about it if anything. Check the websites of whichever parties are running for your seat.
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>>73362962
>>73362977

Nah Ive lived rural and urban. I like multiculturalism. Food is better and the place is more interesting. As long as everyone holds 'australian' as primary identity and everyone is learning English I don't care.

All of your reeee about non whites is mending. The white towns of australia are some of the most degenerate. Drug abuse and family breakdowns are so bad everywhere I've lived so keeping things white obviously isn't a solution to a country wide problem.
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>>73362956
Europe is a fascinating place with a ton of history. Even if most of its countries don't matter economically or militarily, it's still worth preserving for cultural and historical reasons. I traveled across quite a lot of it when I was younger before Muslims started filling up every major city west of Berlin. Seeing what it's like now makes me sad. London electing a fucking Paki for its mayor is an embarrassment.
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>>73363130
>o great now we gotta resettle all of png

>tfw you realize you should have Tasmania'd PNG when you had a chance.
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>>73362832
100Mb/S Cable Internet here m8
Freeloaders pls go
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>>73363022
If you say so lol
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One hand, one party stands for

>No boats
>Traditional
>Conservative
>Restrict immigration
>No bullshit climate tax and wasting money for a lost cause
>No faggot marriage
>Less SJW-pandering

Whereas, on the other hand, the opposing party stands for
>Better internet with fibre optics

Guess which party I'm going to vote for
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>>73363154
gay marriage is a shitty wedge issue that only gets brought up when they need a distraction from a real issue
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>>73363223
>there's curry and kebab so obviously multiculturalism is great!
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>>73363347
Better internet, every time. I can ignore SJW's, I can't ignore slow internet.
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>>73363223
>The white towns of australia are some of the most degenerate. Drug abuse and family breakdowns are so bad everywhere I've lived so keeping things white obviously isn't a solution to a country wide problem.

Pretty much. Even in Sydney. White Australian suburbs like Mt. Druitt and St. Marys are total shitholes with meth-smoking bogans, while places like Chatswood (majority Chinese) are nice, clean places where normal middle class families live.
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>>73363223
>I like multiculturalism

No, you're the degenerate. You know you don't fit, that you can't be 100% authentically Australian so you make no effort to become as authentic as possible and instead try to change what Australian means, tearing down the society real Australians built to create a new one where no one is truly Australian. That's exactly what your Shiite scum family did in Lebanon too. You ruined Lebanon and now you're trying to ruin Australia. You are the cancer.

>white countries don't have a right to be white you racsits!

Enjoy genocide, shitskin
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>>73363407
This is the first good iceberg I've seen.
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>>73363307
I don't say it in a hateful way. Arabs and Muslims are very different to English and Irish people. You are not Australians, you will never get Australians, and you will never be Australians.
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>>73363307
He's correct. You even stated as much that you have no respect for the existing australia and seek to tear it down to create a country without an identity so you can keep benefiting from the country real Australians created.

>lol

Everyone knows that making light of being called out on bullshit is a tactic niggers in America use when people get tired of them and start being "racist" in order to deflect and distract. You aren't fooling anyone.
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>>73363459
>nice, clean places where normal middle class families live
Where chinky drones shelter in their hive m8. There is no sense of community. No-one knows their neighbours' names. They have no patriotic spirit either. Completely atomised.
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>>73363407
Bullshit. Most eastern cultures are far better than aussies below that ice berg. as I've said I've lived in a lot of pure white towns here in aus due to my work and they're the most degenerate of all. Drug abuse, teen pregnancy, crime is fucked. most of the aussies reeeeing over multiculturalism haven't lived anywhere but suburbia
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>>73363459
>the overwhelming majority of people in Australia are white
>the fact that the majority of the poor are white is a surprise

Are all leftist australians braindamaged?
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>>73363664
It's like that in pretty much every suburb these days. Chatswood is not unique.
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>>73358233
Not I
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>>73363684
Statistically it doesn't matter what your anecdotes are you dumb shitskin

>80% of Australia is white
>Lol so many poor whites exist in a mostly white country

You're an idiot and you would never be in australia with your defective brain if immigration wasn't so lax
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>>73363459
Australia was founded as a convict colony to deport Irish degenerates from the pure land of England. Congrats on finding them today. They didn't create country, their English guards did.
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>>73363472
You're american you don't even know where Lebanon is. The Shiites saved southern Lebanon from being annexed by Israel in the 80's and are now protecting the Maronites from takfiris. Lebanese Christians love Hezbollah I get told this all the fucking time by lebs
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>>73363684
>Most eastern cultures are far better than aussies below that ice berg.

Aside from the fact that you're hilariously incorrect, it doesn't fucking matter. It's not your place to decide what's better. It's your place to assimilate or get the fuck out.
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>>73363748
>flag

Nobody asked for your opinion m8. This is an Australian thread. Fuck off back to Trump General.
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>>73358305
Fucking orange you colour blind, cock-eyed, foetal alcohol syndrome cunt
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>>73363825
More convicts came from England and Scotland than from Ireland, you know.
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>>73363459
>Like Mt Druit
Haha you fucking troll
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>>73363684
The degeneracy of small towns has little to do with race. The growth of the service economy, efficiencies in agriculture and the death of manufacturing ruined opportunities for these poor fuckers. A place with no jobs, no hope and no incentive to try is the best breeding ground for degeneracy.

Having said that, I used to deal with all sorts in the northern suburbs of Melbourne and the Muslims I dealt with were without exception disrespectful parasites festering in their own cultural enclaves. Encouraging that sort of thing is not going to improve anything for anyone.
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>>73364099
Okay, maybe Mt. Druitt isn't all that "white", but surrounding suburbs like Whalan and Tregear very much are, and they're arguably even bigger shitholes.

Trust me. I live in St. Marys.
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>>73363845
And what does that have to do with Australia?

Everything you have just written is an example of how different you are from Australians. Nothing in Lebanons internal affairs matters to Australians. The fact this this week your particular Arab sectarian group are friends with one particular sectarian Arab group (that you were at war against last week) in a war against other sectarian Arab groups on the pther side of the world has no affinity to anything Australian.

Hezbollah is a designsted terrorist group in Australia for starters. Yet you idolise them. You are not an Australian and never can be. You are a vistor in a foreign land.
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>>73363859
I speak English and I'm not religious but you retards still reeee. I earn double the median salary here and my whole family that came here is doing better than the average australian. you have absolutely nothing to hold above me, we've done better than the native born 'real australians'
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>>73364033
Race, not location, that matters.
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>>73363347
>>73363410

Labor will no longer be building a FTTH NBN, just so you know.

They will continue with the FTTN roll out.
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>>73364227
I'm not Lebanese or Arab. Australia designates them as a terrorist group because america says so.
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>>73358305
>Jim Beam
>Southern Cross tattoo
not sure what stereotype this is meant to be
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>>73357346
Australia needs to make tony abbott prime minister again
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>>73357433
>>73357622
>>73357805
>>73358145
>>73358218
>Tweeting about refugees in response to cucks on q&a
>Some bot starts tweeting me back my tweets but with the word refugee replaced with HUMAN BEING
>Holy fucking shit what is this language policing right here

http://bot.watch/post/135782478965/a-twitter-bot-turns-refugees-into-human-beings
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>>73364324
>not sure what stereotype this is meant to be
It's an Australian man. You probably haven't ever seen one before m8.
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>>73364365
The bot is technically correct, which mean's its shit.
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who are you cunt's voting for? all the major parties want to destroy the white race so no point in voting for them. most of the right wing meme parties also don't really care about the white man.
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>>73357346
Who /greens/ here?

australia.isidewith.com
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>>73364426
shooters and fishers
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>>73364229
The fact that you're so self-righteous rather than incredibly thankful for the opportunity to live somewhere other than an Islamic shithole is more than reason enough for me to look down on you.
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>>73364379
sure thing cunt
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>>73364426
Vote One Nation. The party's greatest hope is a woman that ran a fish and chip shop I guess she knows what's best for you lol.
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>>73364324
you've never seen empty cans of jimmy on a front lawn, with a rusty VL parked on the street, a few cracked plastic chairs on the front patio, and an overflowing ashtray sitting on the arsnic-green metal outdoor table?
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