>/pol/ will defend this
>>73308481
no we wont, what?
In quebec province of canad the treatment is free tho , at any stage
>>73308481
India version is 99.99999999% poo
>tfw a south american shitskin believes a facebook image that has literally no source for it's argument saying that miracles are affordable in India
I'm not surprised
>>73308481
/pol/ is in favor of small government
>>73308481
What is stopping you from buying the Indian equivalent?
>>73309530
nothing is free, retard.
[citation needed]
What happens when the pills don't cure anything anyway?
>>73308481
America pays whatever the pharmaceutical companies ask for without even looking for an alternative source.
That's why Donald trump said were going to shop when it comes to pharmaceutical companies and their monopolies.
>>73309679
the poo in it?
Truly India is a paragon of perfect health.
>>73309679
>What is stopping you from buying the Indian equivalent?
The federal government bringing the hammer down and imprisoning you for daring to utilize the free market. This is not hyperbole.
>>73309637
prove it wrong then faggot
>>73308481
Kikes being kikes is not something /pol/ tends to endorse
>>73310360
>Prove it wrong faggot
The claim that is made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence you fucking idiot.
His job is not to prove your argument, your job is to defend your position.
I swear to god these fucking shills are getting worse and worse.
wrong number on the meme... but here's the report.
>>73310310
smoker from left4dead?
>>73309679
You government laws ?
Why do I care about paying for healthcare when I literally just drive to Canada when I need surgery. Got my Lasik for 1/15th of the cost. Got kidney stones removed for free. Got prescribed medication for testicular cancer for free. I am now completely healthy again just go drive into Canada. All the benefits, no taxes. Being American is great.
>>73310553
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/84000-hep-c-drug-only-1500
>>73310360
>true until proven otherwise.
science =/= religion
cuck
>>73310019
Caveat emptor
>>73308481
How much does your typical Indian make in a year?
>>73310360
>73310559
how about YOU prove it right, you grass fucking faux-mexican?
>>73310310
Both Indian and american healthcare are overregulated. Actually this is the worlds problem. There are thousands medical startup for medicine automation, but none of it is allowed to be implemented, because it first need 5 to 10 years of different pricy testing.
>>73308481
Sourceless/dubiously sourced infographs are the most enduring /pol/ meme.
>>73310626
Yes. It's costlier for Indians. But cheap for americans who get assfucked by their healthcare
>>73308481
Nice source. You blindly believe everything that's posted on joobook, and just repost it all here.
You are cancer.
No one pays those prices except insurance companies. The money gained often then goes on to research for better drugs.
>>73310625
If only we could engrave these words on all our hallowed halls.
>>73308481
>implying the average pooinloo pajeet could aford this
>>73310602
>http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/84000-hep-c-drug-only-1500
Very interesting article.
this?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-29/the-price-keeps-falling-for-a-superstar-gilead-drug-in-india
1 pill cost 1000 bucks
84000 bucks is full treatment
>compacted poo and piss
>>73308481
First off, it's indian, so it probably has poo in it.
Secondly, you do realize "big" anything usually has a large scale jewish infestation right?
And you know how most of /pol/ feels about jews, and the businesses they run.
>>73308481
>indian medicine
better die than take that tainted shit. look up the fda warning letters issued to indian pharma companys. poo in loo is all I'd say.
>>73308481
India has very poor regulatory processes and enforcement. I had a friend buy some Indian oxy, it didn't get him high and he ended up having to go to the hospital because he wasn't able to shit for 2 weeks.
I wonder why they pay so much less? :^) hmm
Multi-billion dollar research, development and approval costs for a cure for a rare disease which is transmitted primarily through dirty needles.
In order to recoup the costs you have to charge that much especially when you consider the majority of sufferers never will be able to afford it regardless of the price.
I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that American pharma companies have to spend a decade and billions on development, research, and testing so that a generic can be sold to shitty poor countries like India.
>>73309823
everyone knows what it means you obtuse burger
>>73309530
>free
I think you are needed over at Occupy Democrats
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/02/04/trump-vows-to-take-on-powerful-drug-companies-drive-down-prices/
>>73310019
hep c is a viral infection of the liver that can be treated. So the use of the term "cure" can only be used when you get your blood work done and are virus free for a period of 6 months.
>>73308481
>leftists completely failing to understanding the economics of this
They're basically leeching off Americans
India ignores patents for drugs created in USA and makes knockoffs for cheap, basically stealing a fucking shitload of money from American companies and patients.
Americans are stuck with paying high prices to cover the billions of $ in R&D
Drugs aren't fucking cheap. It costs like $2,600,000,000+ and 12 years of research on average to develop a new drug and many never even get approved and make it to market.
Countries like India just steal the drug and don't contribute to the R&D at all (which is the main expense by far for real drug companies that actually create instead of steal).
This is they main reason they won't join TPP, becuase it would force them to stop stealing our IP and allow us to sue them if they fail to do so.
>>73310613
if it's impossible to falsify then its not science.
>>73311501
>tfc every morning the CDC pays for commercials to get your hep c checked out especially if you are brown because that's what the statistics say.
Racists.
>>73308481
The Indian one will cure my Hep C, but will give me Hep A from it being 99% poo. Why would I choose it then?
>>73311540
Those billions don't go into the actual R&D, they go to the shareholders. Drug discovery is usually free from universities, they have millions more drugs than they can test. Then a smaller company will do initial tests for about $100,000, if it shows promise then big pharma comes in and buys the whole company, giving a massive payday. Then testing begins but if 2billion went to the actual researchers they could hire 3000 researchers for 12 years which isn't what happens. Most goes to sales.
>>73308481
learn economics.
>>73311193
India is still lucky to get the pill's price reduced to their low GDP, if they had to rely on their research they'd have to cure the disease with cow piss
>>73308481
Just looked it up. It's roughly the same price in the US (bought $1000). And it's not a cure you dense shit. It's a treatment.
>>73309679
Illegal to buy medicine from India, Silk Road did that and (((they))) SHUT IT DOWN.
>>73312196
most of the cost of research is in equipment and material; not people. Say you need a new Mass-spec to run your trials thats several million on one piece of equipment.
>>73308481
well you see its because those how make it like money and they can charge that in america and thats ok because its none of your business
>>73308481
If government wasn't allowed to interfere with the free market, corporations would hire lobbyists or donate to political campaigns
>>73308481
That image sounds like a blatant lie, provide a source to back it up or gtfo.
>>73309679
It'll be contaminated with fecal matter
This is what happens when the government grossly distorts market forces.
>>73309601
This. Feces works wonders to cure an illness when you die from another illness.
after thousands of different drug candidates have been synthesized, brought into clinical trials for years of testing, and then finally approved, drug companies can then make the drug for often cents per gram in terms of cost of material.
so after investing years and years of research, costing literally billions of dollars, and after having looked at thousands of compounds, they have a route to one drug with a known profile.
and then some faggot chemists in china and india see the structure of the drug and just synthesize it themselves without ever having spent a dime on the research needed to get there.
and so they can sell it for next to nothing. but without the pharma company, that drug would never have existed.
t. a synthetic organic chemist in the field
itt:
>muh R&D
yeah you mean
>gold yachts for executives
>>73308481
Sorry, but this is just capitalism. Nothing else.
Pharma companies can charge what they want for pills. The problem is that insurance companies are forced to pay for this shit. And patent laws allow pharma companies to charge whatever they want until the patent runs out.
>>73313463
yeah, lol, we need to stick with that line like forever
>>73313496
>>73313519
Then how come IG Farben, BASF, Monsanto, Hoerst, or any of the rest don't want to make the pills anymore?
What happened to the Zyklon and the Agent?
>>73313463
and what a bout the R&D done by universities :^)
Well no shit, third world countries like India, Brazil, etc. just copy the drug after someone else has already done all the development. They just have to cover the manufacturing cost, and not the years of product development, clinical trials, etc.
>>73308481
but medicare
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/lets-make-america-great-again
>>73313496
>>73313560
youre right about the gold yachts for executives, but it is the R&D too.
thats the reason me and half the people i know are employed, unless you think im part of a conspiracy. although the market sucks as of recently due to the gold yacht you mention
>>73313784
the collaboration between universities and pharma companies with respect to R&D is sickening- pharma companies fund research at universities so they can pay grad students $25k/yr for 80+hrs/week to do their work, without having to hire full time $120k/yr 40hr/week scientists.
its a reason the job market sucks for synthetic chemists
>>73314102
SME's are the past, not many are coming up. the MAB therapies are very interesting tho.
>>73308481
Isn't there already an alternative at less than $1 a pill?
>>73314102
>companies doing what they can to cut down on costs
Not saying it isn't really shitty, but it's the way things go, unfortunately
>>73314254
pharma companies searching the chemical space for the last couple of decades has been dependent on making libraries of compounds with only the most robust reactions, with led to a lot of biaryls and amides.
once this meme dies new scaffolds will emerge and be pursued
>The government is able to pick winners and losers rather than let the market decide
>This is somehow the private sectors fault and the solution is greater government influence over the economy
Libtards, everybody
>>73313919
its only a conspiracy in so far as all MBAs have only one goal: make a much money as fast as possible until you die and do so within the letter of the law, or even outside of the law if it is never enforced or you have the power/wealth to beat the rap
>pharmaceutical companies n-need to recoup their massive R&D investment
Except pharmaceutical companies already make huge profit margins, and actually spend more on marketing than on research.
>drug companies spend far more on marketing drugs - in some cases twice as much - than on developing them
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223
>>73314816
That's because corporate mgmt has a legal fiduciary duty to maximize profits for the shareholders. A duty not to their country, or the environment, or humanity, or God - to the shareholders. It's a shitty legal framework that leads to net destructive behavior.
>>73310310
Did someone impregnate poo and it gave birth to that monstrosity?
>>73314674
they have micro reactors and automatic analyzer robots, fascinating machines.
on the other hand the biotec drugs can't be copied, that's why the knock-offs are called biosimilars, not generics.
Poo in loo in the meantime is breeding superbugs. the effluent from the factories producing antibiotics is released in to open waterways where it kills all bacteria. untill one day darwin farts in his grave and the fittest microorganism becomes a new menace.
>>73313463
Also if they produce the drug there, it might not be isomer clean and could have unexpected side-effects.
>>73314893
if the drug fills a medical demand, and they have a patent for exclusive sales, why do they spend so much on marketing?
>>73308481
yeah get rid of crony capitalists you fucking statists
>>73315772
http://youtu.be/ASBeOZlujSw
Vice, but for once not bad.
>>73308481
>big___
>___gate
FUCK OFF
india avoids our patent laws which makes it cost $84,000 in USA
without charging for R&D, there would be no cure for hepatitis C.
>>73315998
I could be wrong, but I think it mostly goes to marking for drugs that we don't really need, or there are a lot of competition
I don't think I've ever seen a commercial for insulin, but I see fucking Viagra commercials all the time
>>73315957
exactly, this comes on top of the poor generall understanding of GMP. the warning letters are terrible, but the fda generally doesn't look for byproducts that can be very toxic.
>>73316287
Better pay the price than get poisoned.
>>73308481
Now folks, listen. We spend billions- BILLIONS- on healthcare. Obamacare is a disaster for so many reasons, but number one- THE NUMBER ONE REASON- is that these politicians, they sign bills to pay $20 a pill, or $50 a bandaid, or something like that.
And I know what you're saying, everyone says it, how are they this stupid? The truth is that they're not stupid- they're bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies. PFIZER- pfizer, people, pays tons of money to our politicians and now wants to move to Ireland! But anyway, so they pay the politicians, and these crooked politicians- like crooked hillary, for example- goes in and makes a bill to lower costs but then they get a phone call- and the voice says
>uh, your PAC called and they want you to withdraw suppoet or they won't keep supporting you
And they wanna stay in, so they do!
Companies get people to do what they want, wether it's in trade agreements or construction or whatever because of this.
That's why I'm proud to say that I am self-funding my campaign, folks, this isn't going to happen anymore!
>>73316450
Insulin is a great market, no ads needed as ppl would die without it. here there is no advertising for Rx drugs. competition does push prices down and often the drug with the better risk/effect ratio is covered by healthcare providers.
it's a complicated process to manufacture many drugs. of course the shareholders want shekels, but big pharma has lots of employees and subcontractors. here 3 external jobs are secured by one pharma employee.
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>>73309090
900$ in India could buy a fucking Konigsegg and still have enough money for blow for the rest of your life. That's a silly comparison.
>>73309530
the province still pays the drug company about $60k per person for the treatment
And I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of the information or implications made by OP or his image, but if Harvoni only costs $900 per person in India they are getting it for much less than North Americans do.
>>73308481
How about you prove it, Occupy Democrats?
>>73310230
underrated
>>73318506
>>73310360
There are 3 m&ms on pluto currently
prove me wrong faggot
>>73312763
Go through the thread. Another Indian has posted an article. But it's $1500 not 900
>>73308481
>spend billions of dollars
>decades of research later
>finally develop drug
>costly trials start
>FDA doesn't approve drug
>backtothedrawingboard.jpg
>spend more money to improve drug
>finally get FDA approval
>fucking paajeet buys a box and starts copying it
>>73319983
You can't just make something up like that. You have to put the words on a picture.
>>73318160
Don't run away with your imaginations kid. It's about 65k rupees. Can't even get a new car.
>>73310310
>what kinda face you want senpai
>Just dip me in the ganges, senpai
>>73308481
How can a brick of powder cost that much
>>73308481
>Not just ordering the pill from Pooistan on E-bay
>>73308481
900 obimbobucks is a lot of money for an indian, he needs to clean many shitriverstreets for that. It probably equals 84k bucks in the usa.
>>73308481
I agree with the image. I hate wallstreet, they can eat shit and die and I don't give a flying fuck what happens.
>>73321076
development, chemicals, able scientists, paying test subjects and factories. it costs as much as a good private designated shitting street
>>73313496
/pol/ is full of corporate bootlickers
>India dumps all of their pharma waste into drinking water
Brought to you by regulation. Leftists believe that regulation is free.
