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Nobody here actually believes that the "good guys" lost WW2, right?

This is all just a meme, right?
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate.
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
mehmet plz stop it
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>>73301042
Do you mean to say Russia was a "good guy"?
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>>73301042
FUCK OFF ANTI-WHIT
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
fuck you Jew
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>>73301042
What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H75fYWQDDYU
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301101
>>73301153
>>73301157
>>73301183
>>73301192
>>73301243

>shitting on all the brave Brits, Americans, French, Russians and others who gave their lives so that you can shitpost behind your computer in the year 2016

Honestly, kill yourselves
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>implying there were good guys and bad guys
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>>73301042
FU
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301101
Atom Bomb Baby.
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>>73301331
Nigger, if Hitler won, we'd be living the same dream, but without all this multicultural melting pot memery of a shitty world.
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>>73301331

Nobody shits on their soldiers, they thought they fought for the right cause. Everybody shits on their government though. Retarded corrupt democracies ruled by jewish industrialists/globalists
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>>73301042

The bolsheviks won World War II. Both Axis and Allies were defeated through calculated communist subversion.
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Yes
The good guys won and europe is a better place now
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>>73301331
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>>73301331
Are you implying that we wouldn't have computers without an Allied victory or something?

And why should I be grateful for a world that is so fucked up that I'll rather sit in front of a computer screen than experience the real world?

Especially as a German, you cannot deny that YOUR life (being a GERMAN) would be much better in a German-centered world than it is now.
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>>73301042
It wasn't a fair fight

The world would be better off if Hitler had won
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>>73301331
My Grandpa was a D Day veteren and fought at Spicheren Heights recieving two purple hearts with Oak Leaves.

He would be ashamed of how how Germany and the West in General has deteriorated.
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>>73301042
The eternal kraut still exists and is attempting to destroy western civilization yet again. So yes, won the war but lost in the long run.
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>>73301042
oy vey!
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>>73301456

> we'd be living the same dream

I would say that it would be better. More focus on the people (socialist part)... but only your own people. More animal rights, more environmental friendly, probably more focus on science, non degenerate TV and art, no teens slutting it up, no decline in birth rates, pride in your nation and so on.
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Agree with OP
Death to fascism
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>>73301042
London just had a mayoral election where the main 2 candidates were a jew and a muslim

I'd say the good guys lost hard
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We would have computers of course, but you wouldn't be able to use the internet since it would probably be completely under control by the goverment, and they watch all your steps.

No private sphere, no way to get rich, shitty boring women, no anime or vidya since all the money would be put into some dumb shit like space research or the military.

Fuck off
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>>73301042
Given all the browns, Muslims, and liberal traitors that were on Twitter last night saying "fuck your grandparents" to white Brits after Khan took London, yes. The good guys lost WW2.

I guess that would technically make the UK the "bad guys" for fighting on the wrong side and dragging us into it.
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>>73301743
>Taiwan
non-whites shouldn't be arrogant enough to voice their worthless opinions on European culture and history. Thanks.
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>>73301042
Shut up slavic rape baby. If you honestly don't realize the less of two evils lost than there is no hope for you.
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We were the good guys
and we lost, more then even germany
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>Russia was nothing but a cesspool of Jewish "intellectuals" spreading hateful ideology designed to control the masses
>Britain literally sold itself to the Rothschild Jews for oil profits
>America only entered the European campaign of WWII because of public pressure created by a propaganda campaign started by a Rabi

The allies were fighting for absolute evil in WWII. The Jew is and always has been a global menace. Instead of uniting together for the prosperity of all men, the allies and axis forces were pitted against one another for the profit of the Jews.
The two figures who the Jews never cease to defame are Adolf Hitler and Jesus Christ. Each of them were saviors of their people.
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The wrong side won WW1
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>>73301876
>We would have computers of course, but you wouldn't be able to use the internet since it would probably be completely under control by the goverment, and they watch all your steps.


Yeah, it's not like the governments aren't doing that right now.
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>>73301841
>I hate fascism because evil white males tried to oppress everyone!
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>>73301830
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I don't believe it I know it.
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>>73301042
Both sides were pretty shit.
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>implying there are good and bad people
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>>73301578

>The bolsheviks won World War II

Wrong. The soviets were so weakened that they had to rely on lend lease for survival, especially food during the end. They were weakened and the US could have pushed them back to moscow if they wanted, especially with a nuke or two.

Stalin new that for the survival of the soviet union, he had to take all of europe, it´s lands, it´s work force and so on. Since he couldn´t do that, he knew that they had lost and he didn´t even attend the glorious war scenemory in moscow for "winning" WW2... he knew that they were doomed in the long run because now all the aid from the US would stop comming.

The jews won WW2, not the soviets/bolsheviks (even though partly the same).
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>>73301042
WIR WAREN
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>>73301876
>No private sphere, no way to get rich, shitty boring women, no anime or vidya

Yeah.. sure is good we got all those things..
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>>73301434
at this rate the only atom bombs being dropped will be on white America
>baby
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>>73301042
There were no good guys in WWII that is the important lesson to take from it.
Nazis and the allies did near identical crimes with the Nazis being slightly worse overall.
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>>73302025
>fat happy gay socialist Jew wearing a cloak of death
Yep. Yes sir. I do believe that pic about summarizes their race t b h
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>>73301042
Lost what? Nazi Germany is beating the shit out of the western allies right now
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>>73302060
You don't really believe any of this shit, right?

Holy fuck dude...

READ all of that, and then compare it to the 3rd Reich.
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>>73301042
Nazi Germany is beating the shit out of the western allies right now
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>>73301876
>Stasi is what Hitler wanted
dude
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>>73301876
>no animu and vidya

Wow, that's fucking nothing. Besides, animu would have been made regardless of who wins.

>boring women

Still better wife material than most women nowadays.
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No, the good guys won WW2. They got out of their economically crippling depression and turned their nation into a Muslim paradise, thus setting the shining example for what the rest of Europe should become. And they are...
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>>73302150
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>>73302060
>wanting socialism so all your money goes to some cunt you don't like
>wanting nationalism so your country is surrounded by borders that act like prison walls and you can't escape no matter how fucked it gets
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>this triggers the /pol/
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>>73301042
War has no good side and bad side you colossal cuck
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>>73301876

>No private sphere, no way to get rich, shitty boring women, no anime or vidya since all the money would be put into some dumb shit like space research or the military.

I don´t even really know where to start with that post. You barely know national socialism and you don´t even seem to know how the current world works.
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>>73302326
>>wanting nationalism so your country is surrounded by borders that act like prison walls and you can't escape no matter how fucked it gets
That is not nationalism and you know it. Why have the quality of Canadian posts degraded so much ever since Trudeau got elected?
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>>73302248
get fucked kike
>>73302326
>wanting jewish economics that fucks everyone but a few kikes at the top
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>>73302170
Why do Britbrowns insist on posting meme charts when they're in the same boat?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/396390/Migrants-change-UK-forever-White-Britons-will-be-in-minority-by-2066
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>>73302475
>when they're in the same boat?
i never said otherwise, schlomo
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>implying Stalin and Churchill were good guys
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>>73302441
They are trying to beat Australia at shitposting, but without the humor, wit and bantz
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>>73302441
>That is not nationalism and you know it.

Yes it is you bitch ass nigger. The whole point of nationalism is to prevent all the smart people from leaving.
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>>73301830
Stop it, Hans. I can only take so much on a Saturday morning.
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>>73301960

You forgot one thing: US economy was as shitty in 1939 as it was in 1930. Producing war stuff and later joining themselfs is what saved their economy.

But yes, the allies fought for evil reasons while germany fought for survival. Hence nobody agreed to their peace terms, no matter how generous... Allies just wanted to destroy and conquer sales markets and the jews couldn´t allow someone else to build up a seperate economy.
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There were no "good guys". There wasn't any then, there aren't any now. Especially now. You should be suspicious of people who act like they're only fighting for a just cause.

Jesus, that sounds more edgy than I intend it to.
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if Germany won we wouldn't have ''refugees'' ''culturally enriching'' us.
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>>73302659
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>>73301042
Yes and no.
The Nazis were as close to "the bad guys" as you could get.

But internationally speaking and speaking with hindsight, Britain were good guys, she won the war alongside America but she drove herself to bankruptcy to do it, she eventually lost her empire, she lost her world dominance to the United States and to the unabated forces of capitalism.

Now you have an Africa made up of states that retain their colonial borders containing different tribal peoples who hate one another, suffering under a constant game of divide and conquer for the benefits of international companies. At least under colonialism there were token efforts to civilize them, to leave the country in a more stable situation than we found it. Now it doesn't matter if there's a civil war, a genocide, what have you - so long as those natural resources keep flowing.

British international hegemony gave way to the USA, and with the fall of the USSR even this gave way to the forces of uncaring money. The good guys lost, and it started with WW2.
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>>73302659
>implying Albert Einstein didn't leave the nationalist
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>>73302659
>bitch ass nigger
You can go back to redit now thanks.

Also see pic related
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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We will see who the real winner is when we start putting the sand people on trains
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>>73302843
>be faggot Dane
>be stuck in 12 square mile shithole in Northern Europe
>can't leave because no one speaks your shitty language
>can't leave because wherever you decide to move, you'll be that weird Dane who speaks English with a retarded Danish accent
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>>73302851
>British were the good guys
>invents concentration camps

Pick one
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>>73302567
Oh, I get it.
>It's another "Jewish guy pretending to be NatSoc white and playing divide-and-conquer" episode
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>>73302060
>we chose ns
>you should choose it too
Meh. The only thing i should do is liberating you scumfucks.
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>>73301042
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>>73301042
You're right, look how much the jews have helped us out.
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>>73302998
please elaborate
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>>73302986
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>>73301042
Fuck you
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>>73301042
Fuck you

Hitler should have won
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>>73301331
>implying we wouldn't be able to shitpost if the germans won
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>>73302567
Yes. Yes it will.
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>>73302991
Not particularly comparable to the Nazi equivalent.
Basically an old-world version of the US strategy in Vietnam of chasing people into the cities to damage the Vietcong.

Sometimes you have to do bad things to maintain power overall. Are you saying South Africa is worse off for British presence?
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>>73303244
ah, the old
>Hitler is a Muslim
jewmeme
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>>73303244
when exactly did he say that?
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>>73302326
>nationalism so your country is surrounded by borders that act like prison walls and you can't escape no matter how fucked it gets
Nationalism and patriotism make people want to stay and and be proud of what they've built. It also keeps subhumans out. Hitler didn't built the berlin wall dipshit.
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>>73302464
>wanting a shitty protectionist economy because you're too much of a pussy to compete on an international level and you just want to jerk yourself off over made up Viking stories
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>>73303408
>thinks his country and race is superior
>wants protectionism because he knows that he can't compete with other races
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The world would be a much simpler place if there were only white blonde aryans left.
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>>73303480
how much did you pay for that jewish economics degree?
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>>73303398
The dude loved muslims.
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>>73301042

>he thinks Communists and the British are good guys
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>>73302777
Nice trips britbro
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>>73303551
Most people in economics now are asians. Jews are usually in business management (much easier program).

Jews make poor mathematicians, and recent advances in economics require it to be very rigorous.
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>>73301876
>be completely under control by the goverment, and they watch all your steps.

Try to watch this video faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOnfV0-0apE
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>>73303662
>see? here is a picture of him talking to a muslim looking guy
>he loved muslims

If hitler saw modern muslims he'd have never tolerated them.

He probably only gave them attention cause muslims inherently hate jews
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>>73301672
Careful Fritz, Fuehrerin Angela is always watching
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>>73302060
>right to self determination
Except for those deemed inferior, and everyone who stood in the path of Nazi expansionism was inferior.
>more land
Taken from other people.
>strong ethnic/racial/national
With emphasis on ethnic. Nazis were German nationalists. They also liked Scandinavians. That's it. Everyone else was inferior in various degrees.
>laws that protect foreign guests
Yes, they stood by law so much they literally invited Hacha and bullied him into accepting German occupation, in one example.
>no foreign lobbyists
True.
>social programs
>disabled
Depending on how it went, disabled would probably be exterminated.
>prevention of immigration
True.
>must have equal rights
Except upper party and leader himself who is above law or any moral.
>abolition of unearned/stolen/slave-driven
Ironically Nazis used slave workers, and Hitler never moved against big money. That was ideology in the start, and he abandoned it after coming to power and got cozy with elites. That's why he eliminated SA.
>personal enrichment
See: Goering.
>nationalization
Never happened. That was early idea which Hitler abandoned.
>old age welfare
No idea about this.
>indescriminate
Also for everyone opposing regime in any way, as well as personal opponents, whether inside or outside of party.
>education
No idea.
>child labor laws
Existed since 19th century in German Empire. See: Prussian socialism.
>known lies
Yes, because only state can lie.
>freedom of religion
That's why they shot so many Catholic priests, and aimed to replace Christianity with ''positive Christianity''.

I love destroying Hitlerboos here. You think Nazi lies work when there's no monopoly of force to intimidate people. C'mon, try to debate some historian IRL, and see how you go, you mindless drone.
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>>73303662
And Taylor Swift is the leader of the western fascist alliance
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>>73301042
No anon, I don't belive that bullshit. There was more to WWII than you get thaught in history class. Victim numbers of the Holocaust have been exagerated, the allied forces also committed a shitload of warcrimes, etc.

But bottomline: Hitler was an evil cunt who had some pretty good but also pretty bad ideas. His ideas for economic development were ahead of his time and he was fully in his right to go against the Versaille Treaty.

But the systematic extermination of Jews, communists, gypsys, gay people, handicapped, and so on, that's just pure evil, no matter what the exact number is. I don't like all of these groups, but exterminating anything you don't like is like a 10 year olds reaction.
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>>73301743
You have no right to post about ww2 your country need Americas help to get the japs out and then years latter your country can't win a civil war so you run to a tiny island
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>>73303826

>If hitler saw modern germans he'd have never thought they were superior
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>>73303551
Can you explain that picture? I don't get it
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>>73303833
>try to debate some historian IRL
provide proof of the Holocaust
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>>73301042
Fuck you, self hating cuck.
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>>73301042
Yeah thank god the Allies won, otherwise stuff like this wouldn't happen!
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>>73303541
>wants protectionism because he knows that he can't compete with other races
Or is it shitskins like you want to flood the west because you can't fit into a civilized society. Did you stand up and clap when Trudeau said we should not call honour killing at 'barbaric' act?
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>>73301042
Educate yourself, antifa scum.
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>>73303932
And they never were.
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>>73301042
A 'brit' here saying go kill yourself.

>elects a paki mayor of Londshit

>winning
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>>73301042
Most seem very serious about the Nazis being the good guys in WWII despite all evidence to the contrary.
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>>73303935
working together as separate nations according to the peoples of those nations against
>pic related
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>>73301042
Mashallah, Mehmet.
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>>73303987
I don't give two fucks about Holocaust. Holocaust wasn't the only Nazi crime, nor were Jews their only victims.
Besides, only a dumb simpleton would ever write something like ''provide proof of Holocaust''.
You have tens of thousands of books dealing with the subject.
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>>73302060
>>73303987
>Historian

LOL
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>>73304175
>evidence
>>73303987
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>>73303732
>and recent advances in economics require it to be very rigorous
You are a fucking idiot. Please tell me how writing software, and using HPC/dedicated fibre links between markets to execute a million trades a second is advancement? Same old ideas using new tech. Give me a recent 'advancement' in economic theory that hasn't been done before. Economics is not science.
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>>73301331
we would be shitposting from our mars colony now
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>>73301042
Inshallah muhammed, nice bait.
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>>73301042
I don't really know.

History is always written by the victor and both sides engaged in atrocities.

Maybe this is not some manichean, black and white, issue.

Perhaps there were no good guys or bad guys at all, just slightly better and slightly worse, depending on your values.
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>>73304425
>our
Are you a German?
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>>73304326
Historical consensus is that the Holocaust did occur. As a revisionist - and I say that without the negative connotation - it is on YOU to prove your argument.
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>>73301268
Tell me how nazis were pro white by fuckin them all up and starting wars with only white nations...
Dont fuck logic
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>>73303833

>Taken from other people.

Poland was German land less than 50 years before the beginning of WW2.

>Depending on how it went, disabled would probably be exterminated

Yeah we all know how horrible it is to stop congenital defects from infect the population via non-expressed genetics. Meanwhile the Soviet NKVD murdered more than 20 million people for disagreeing with them and they somehow went down in history as "good guys."

>Except upper party and leader himself who is above law or any moral.

See: Every civilization ever. You act like nobody in the German government ever tried to kill Hitler. There were more than a dozen attempts on his life.

>Ironically Nazis used slave workers, and Hitler never moved against big money.

So did the Soviets and the United States. Forced labor camps weren't as abhorrent of an idea as they are now.

>Never happened.

Just like the extermination of disabled people, but you brought it up.

>Also for everyone opposing regime in any way, as well as personal opponents, whether inside or outside of party.

See above comments about Soviets.

>I love destroying Hitlerboos here. You think Nazi lies work when there's no monopoly of force to intimidate people.

You think there were any alternatives to these practices or that the other major powers of the world weren't doing the exact same shit. Here's a tip: They did the same shit, the difference is that they didn't have the skeletons in their closet plastered all over every history textbook to justify a World War.
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>>73301042
nice proxy
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>>73304521
Nothing is black and white, but Nazis were literally people who had 13th century Mongol outlook on things, only far more brutal and systematic.
>We don't have X? Okay, we'll just enslave and exterminate people nearby who do.
Stalin's regime could be compared, but problem with equating them is because communism is inherently humanistic in it's outlook, internationalist.
Nazism as Hitler imagined it was literally 20th century morally bankrupt tribalism.
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>>73304401
I never said it was a science. There's an element of speculation in economics that makes it similar to theoretical physics in terms of usefulness. Only 1% of people working in the field really produce anything worthwhile.

Making money and finance is not an exact science, you simply cannot account for every variable in economical models. That being said once we merge economics with neuroscience and models of the human brain become more sophisticated and useful economics will become a science. As of now we're still just formalizing social relationships.

So to answer your question, neuroeconomics is the advancement, computational models of the human brain allow for us to find better optimization and to physically model preference trends related to consumption.

This is why I minor in neuroscience, I took economics specifically to infiltrate parasite class and work to undermine them from within.
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>>73304847
Based Montenegro
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>>73304559
>Historical consensus
>it is on YOU to prove your argument
in other words -

"everyone KNOWS it happened! prove it DIDN'T!"

that's not how evidence works

the fact is the so-called "historical consensus" is centred around the fantasies of the Allied victors

believing in something without evidence is stupidity

so provide evidence that the Holocaust happened

it's not hard, right?

not the summary of a scholar, but ACTUAL evidence

you know...evidence

not opinion....

evidence
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>>73303833
"Not to cross the clothing, our mother Europe"?
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fuck you
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>>73301042
4chan is full of contrarians. Thats why /pol/ always has lots of sympathy for lost causes like Nazi Germany or the Confederate states. In fact /pol/ usually supports the losing side in any war throughout history.
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The good guys did win. The only Christian superpower in the history of the world, the USA.

The sad thing is that they succumbed to the virus of secular humanism and degeneracy when they stopped being a nation in the Body of Christ and doing things like stopping school prayer.
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>>73301042
There was no good or bad in WW2. Only children believe that as we'd only be trading off certain aspects vs another. Germany would have been just as domineering as the USA but they'd be far more forceful in bossing other countries around.
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If I had that Patton quote I would post it. Even he came to realize the U.S. was on the wrong side.
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>>73301042
yes we do but the fact is Hitler was the Basterd son of a Rothschild so it did not work out
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>>73301042
>freedum
This pic is pure cringe
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>>73304734
>Poland was German land less than 50 years before the beginning of WW2.
Then it wasn't. Besides, that land was occupied by Prussians in 18th century, and then colonized by Germans.
I have no idea how you concluded your argument makes any sense, and can't also be applied against Germans.
>stop congenital defects
I actually mostly agree with that. But they would probably take it to new extremes, given their tendency.
Don't forget, they planned to expel the Jews early on, then they went with industrial extermination.
>the Soviet NKVD murdered more than 20 million people
All around there was around 10 million victims of Stalin's rule, most of them victims of famine which wasn't a planned genocide but a failure of agricultural policy (collectivization).
All this was well documented in secret archives which were opened after communist regime fell.
Not like it matters, I'm not really defending Stalin either.
>See: Every civilization ever
Nope, for example I'm pretty sure Obama can't order things Hitler ordered, nor does he enjoy status that Hitler did, or party upper ranks. He could theoretically, but few Americans would obey and he would suffer repercussions.
>So did the Soviets and the United States.
Not on this scale, and Soviets only, though it was mostly POW's and prisoners.
Nazis literally abducted people across Europe. 20% of their workforce were slaves.
>Just like the extermination of disabled people
How is that an argument, for start?
And I specified I think they WOULD do it. They did kill some disabled people (see: T4).
>See above comments about Soviets.
And how does that affect my argument?
Am I defending Stalin?
Did only Stalin fight Hitler?
>They did the same shit
There is a qualitative as well as quantitative difference.
British Empire did awful things, but their ruling ideology wasn't ''we'll just enslave and exterminate people if they have resources we want''.
They at least had some laws and morals.
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>>73304847
>but problem with equating them is because communism is inherently humanistic in it's outlook, internationalist.


You make is sound like this is, by definition, a good thing. It almost seems like you think it is axiomatic that an internationalist outlook is a good thing or a better thing than a nationalist outlook.

Once more, you seem to imply that claiming humanistic values excuses any atrocities that you might commit.

Finally, how could anything that Stalin did qualify him as a humanist?
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Only the Stormfags who think their subversion of this board has has succeeded.
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>>73304847
Mountain nigger telling him what for
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>>73301042
>Germany fighting to get rid of the people that destroyed its economy, seeped their way into the banking system, and were pushing a degeneracy agenda (much like what you see today) onto the people
>USA comes in without knowing anything and sees one group (Germany) to be the bad guy in this situation
>USA BTFOs Germany and USA befriends the Jews
>fast forward 70 years, Jews have completely taken control of USA and and are now pushing their degeneracy agenda onto the American people now

Yeah, I do believe the the wrong side won the war. America should've allied with Germany.
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>>73304847
>morally bankrupt tribalism.
Please give examples of 'moral tribalism'.
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Not wanting the neo-pagan occult esotericism of the NSDAP.

It's almost like you want decadence and degeneration.
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And now the Jews, which America saved, are doing this to America.
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>>73301042
>good guys
Are you ten years old or what?
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>>73306121
You seem unaware that Germany declared war on us right after Pearl Harbor
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>>73305737
>inherently good thing
I'm Christian, and so are most of Europeans. From the perspective of Christian ethics, that shaped the culture of European people, Nazism and it's stances are a ''bad thing''. Also, from the perspective of people who aren't sociopaths.
>you seem to imply that claiming humanistic values excuses any atrocities that you might commit
I never made that point, you're putting words in my mouth. I'm just saying it's a bit better in moral sense.
>Finally, how could anything that Stalin did qualify him as a humanist?
Stalin was literally alpha Hitler who didn't believe in pseudo-scientific racism, and had a trace of internationalist outlook because he was a communist. That's all the difference between them.
I'm not really sure why idiots here worship Hitler, Stalin was far more awesome judging by their perspective.
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>>73306360
Yeah cause Japan's a faggot
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>>73301331
the same russians that executed poles en masse?
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>>73301042
>people still don't know that churchill was bribed and paid off by zionist bankers to bring britain and america into the war

If Churchill had been killed or died. World War 2 would never have happened.
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They were all in kahoots with one another, directly/indirectly. Hitler was Thule Society member along and was so much closer to Stalin,Churchill and Roosevelt than we are lead to believe. All were freemasons, even fucking Churchill was in two orders, one being Druid,
Heck, even look up Albert Pike and his writtings, you'll know what I am egging at soon as you find out that he schedules 3 world wars to bring the world to its breaking point and finally sieze control for the future Grand Masters of the Masonic Orders. Especially Knights of Malta and the other Vatican one which I forgotten..
Look further into all this shit instead of spewing out the classic WOW 1488 GUYS HITLERRRR HOLOCAUST OY VEY

I am seriously just trying to help you guys be a little more open minded, but I am sure im just a 'shill' because you know I am right. A little weird how there is no official evidence or even any eye witnesses who saw exactly who was rolled up in the carpet after the Reds took it away. Only reason why Hitler was brushed off is because he was not wanted anymore since the high ups already had control of the Commies, and Hitler was seen as a loose end soon as he started to introduce interest free currency. Same thing happened to Napoleon, freemason, 32 degree (I think) and you know how it is, WAR = MONEY. We all agree banks play both sides to max the profit. Napoleons fate was also his Imperialistic attitude later on trying to get interest free currency and no longer keeping up with the high ups.. he was fucking destroyed shortly after.

If you still have ALL doubts, check out pictures of these main characters during the wars, look for hand positioning such as 'hidden hand'. Google shows a good amount too.. its all there, yet no one says anything.
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>>73301042
cuck
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How does /pol/ say MAGA and "Hitler did nothing wrong" at the same time?
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>>73306580
thats some retarded conspiracy theory you have their limey
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>>73301042

hitler was the last sovereign ruler of Europe, he told the NWO and their bank debt slave system to fuck off. In the future he will be remembered as a hero - outside of the Islamic world that is
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>>73304101
Just like Russians
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>>73306121
Do you know if it is true that Patton intimated that the US allied with the wrong side in WWII? I haven't seen it in a primary source yet, though, admittedly, I haven't looked deeply into it.
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>>73301042
All of western civilization is dying and collapsing so we can say the bad guys won.
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>>73306202
Many such examples, I'm not really sure what are you aiming at?
Old people were usually guided by at least religious principles when interacting with people.
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>>73306614
By the carpet I mean when shortly after Hitler supposedly commited suicide the Soviets quickly took the body. Absolutely no one saw who truly was inside
>>73306580
This. No one won except the bankers
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>>73306614
Shalom.
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>>73301876

>no apathetic empty culture

well fuck
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>>73306693
How are they mutually exclusive?
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>>73302170
Says the man that's ruled by Muslims.

We meme around a lot, but all of us are in this shit together.
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>>73305771
Shut up kike
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>>73301042
>Nobody here actually believes that the "good guys" lost WW2, right?
I certainly believe the "Bad Guys" won.
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>Then it wasn't.

Yeah no shit, because somebody else took it. Are you really trying to imply that repossessing land is somehow inherently unacceptable?

>I actually mostly agree with that. But they would probably take it to new extremes, given their tendency.

Conjecture on the ethical standards of Nazis isn't worth much.

>Don't forget, they planned to expel the Jews early on, then they went with industrial extermination.

Reminder that there is no evidence of mass graves and that the statistics given on the "industrial extermination" of jews are as absurd as they are unverifiable. The only evidence of the alleged Holocaust is the forced testimony of SS Officers. No evidence of mass graves. No evidence of massive amounts of ash in the soil of the surrounding area.

>All this was well documented in secret archives which were opened after communist regime fell.

Oh so apparently the Nazis can destroy evidence of genocide but the Soviets didn't?

>Nope, for example I'm pretty sure Obama can't order things Hitler ordered

Bullshit he can't Obama has ordered the killing of American citizens on American soil multiple times. So did Dick Cheney, for that matter, and he wasn't even the fucking President at the time.

>Nazis literally abducted people across Europe. 20% of their workforce were slaves.

[Citation Needed]

>And I specified I think they WOULD do it. They did kill some disabled people

Killing some disabled people is not evidence that they would have exterminated all disabled people any more than killing some black people is evidence that you would exterminate all black people.

>And how does that affect my argument?

Because you act as if somehow Hitler was worse than Churchill or Stalin in that regard. Even today politicians have their personal and political opponents slandered or even outright killed in many places in the world.

>They at least had some laws and morals.

Unlike the cartoon Nazi villains in your head, I suppose.
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>>73306857
Dude, at least use your head a bit, you're a fucking American, on what ideals is America founded?
Did it make any sense for a liberal democratic republic to ally itself with a totalitarian regime?
Why does it matter what idiot Patton thought?
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No, the absolute majority unironically believe that.
Don't see how it's a problem since they are right.
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>>73301042
But we lost the war...
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fuck
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>>73306365
You realize, of course, that the social degeneracy and progressive tolerance that you see in the West currently has its roots in Christianity, right?

Progressivism is Christianity without Christ.
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>>73303751
>This video is unavailable in your country
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>>73307088
You're more American than he is.

Shame people that believe in freedom like you aren't here.
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>>73307088
>on what ideals is America founded
Slave ovnership?
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>>73301042
russia would've attacked anyway
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>Its a /pol/ defends dictators and blames Jews for everything thread
This is why nobody takes you guys seriously
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>>73306723
Churchill went bankrupt and was out of office and work prior to running for prime minister. You'll notice he had a huge manor house and several other homes, fully stocked with servants and aids. And was able to pay them for several years despite having no money in his bank.

The money was eventually traced. It came from rich jewish bankers and known zionists. They stated that they would make him prime minister and the most famous one at that.

Later on he went back to them for help and in return for certain banking relief and other underhanded acts of parliament, they brought america into the war.

No I'm not shitting you. It's all there. Read a bit.

All of it.

Every last bit.

From the Bolsheviks. Tot eh 1918 german war. To Britain a once non aggression pact member with germany and possible ally suddenly turned aggressor before any mention of holocaust etc.

This was all a plan. All of it. Put into action through great murder and money/favors/acts that you could not even dream of for one purpose. The jews to have Israel. That's what all this was for. All of it.

And it was all planned. All orchestrated.
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>>73301042
>Seeing the world in black-and-white absolutes
Your understanding of WWII is childish and simplistic.

The Allies committed several war crimes like the firebombing of Dresden (a civilian city with no strategic or military value that was wiped off the map) or the expulsion of more than a million ethnic German civilians from Eastern Prussia and other lands following the end of the war.

In fact it could be said the Allies invented the concept of terrorism, when they switched tactics in 1943-44 from "strategic bombing" (attacking weapons factories and legitimate military targets) to what the Allies themselves called "terror bombings" (attacking civilian population centers with the aim of causing the greatest number of victims and demoralize the population). Of course, the Axis committed plenty of war crimes too, even if theirs are sometimes magnified while those of the opposing side are omitted.

Ultimately, what was at stake was not just social or economic systems, but cultural values and the survival of the White race itself.

In the light of the massacres and oppression that took place in Eastern Europe following the Soviet occupation, and the cultural and moral decline taking place today in the West, leading to demographic suicide, it's hard to celebrate the Allies as unequivocally good guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XGFYQryJs
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>>73301569
>this
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>>73306897
Are you saying that tribalism is alright depending on the moral of the group?
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>>73307275
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>>73301672
Alan Turing Created the first computer so the allies could win. SO yeah... Its entirely possible.
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>>73307307
Mate, you know you'll be getting a 'Shalom, jew' like >>73306904
Why bother when these guys won't even bother opening a new tab?
I agree with you by the way, seems a little ironic for the 'redpilled' lads roaming around here
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>>73307184
hahahahahah weak
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>>73307275

Nobody takes us seriously because the only thing they can do is feign superiority and pretend they don't need evidence. They have no other argument than "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?"
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>>73307024
>repossessing land is somehow inherently unacceptable
Again, I'm not sure how are you using this argument against me, because it can be used against Germans too. Poles had that land for almost a millennium before Prussians occupied it.
>Conjecture on the ethical standards of Nazis isn't worth much.
OK, we'll just disregard that part of the argument.
>that there is no evidence of mass graves
Ah, I struck on your favorite subject, but who cares about Holocaust?
Plenty of other mass graves hosting other victims of Nazis.
>No evidence of massive amounts of ash
You're referencing the ''research'' of that one guy who used ground-penetrating radar, but he never really published his findings so they could be peer-reviewed. Sorry, even if you love Hitler you still have to provide some proof, we can't just take your word for it.
>can destroy evidence of genocide
Nazis did it because they were losing.
Soviets had no reason to do that, because all people executed in USSR were executed according to ''law''. Sounds funny, but that's how it was. Totalitarian regimes always ridicule law.
>Bullshit he can't
>has ordered the killing
Extrajudicial killing? No he didn't.
>[Citation Needed]

>Panikos Panayi, "Exploitation, Criminality, Resistance. The Everyday Life of Foreign Workers and Prisoners of War in the German Town of Osnabrück, 1939-49," Journal of Contemporary History Vol. 40, No. 3 (Jul., 2005), pp. 483-502

>Killing some disabled people is not evidence
As I said, let's disregard that part of the argument.
>Because you act as if somehow Hitler was worse than Churchill or Stalin in that regard.
Hitler was worse than Stalin, let alone Churchill.
>slandered
is vastly different from
>outright killed

>Unlike the cartoon Nazi villains in your head
Nazis were guided by no laws. Their only law was necessity of German people.
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Fuck off juden
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>even if you love Hitler you still have to provide some proof, we can't just take your word for it.
i'm still waiting, Moishe
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>>73307205

If you had not noticed, Classical Liberalism is a failure.

The population clamors for a parental figure.

The US Constitution was a noble experiment in the ability of the people to govern themselves.

"...a Republic, if you can keep it."

This experiment has failed miserably. Our entire history has been a devolution from a Republic to mob rule. Tyranny is just around the corner.

This experiment has merely proven that most human beings are incapable of governing themselves.

Why should I care about my fellow Americans? The vast majority would have no moral compass without legal statutes.

They live in a state of arrested adolescence.

Rather than a society of responsible free adults, I am surrounded by dependent children.

The Republican electorate are merely juveniles seeking a stern father figure.

The Democrats are children seeking a permissive, doting mother figure.

Neither is the party of mature, responsible adults, because we do not have a population of mature responsible adults.


Any social welfare state is populated by individuals who seek a government to act in loco parentis.

I have no respect for the vast majority of my fellow citizens because they have no respect for themselves. This may be the most undignified culture in human history.

The population of this country has become utterly contemptible.

Our population is lazy, undisciplined, self-absorbed, decadent, and coddled.

They would rather live trapped in a gilded cage and scream about oppression than to burden the risks and responsibilities of freedom.

Unless you promise the people and the corporations slop at the trough, the pigs will never vote for you.

Equality is the antonym or quality. Yet the political system in this country forces the "philosophy" of lowest common denominator upon everyone.

Enough is enough. This noble experiment was wasted on the irresponsible and unworthy.
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>>73307275
Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima...Entire cities full of civilians bombed into ashes.
>We wuz gud goyz and sheet
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>>73308041
>antonym or quality
*antonym OF quality
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>>73307180
No, it has it's roots in liberal capitalism.
>Progressivism is Christianity without Christ.
Nope, it's a false God.
>>73307205
>Shame people that believe in freedom like you aren't here.
You're wrong buddy, I'm a right-wing socialist.
>>73307225
It was a shitty institution and they didn't know how to end it in reality.
>In 1779, as a practical solution to end slavery Jefferson supported gradual emancipation, training, and colonization of African-American slaves rather than unconditional manumission, believing that releasing unprepared slaves with no place to go and no means to support themselves would only bring them misfortune.
Don't be so simplistic.
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>>73304554
germans are the only aryans meme
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>>73301841
sweet jewper hero
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>>73301042
Fuck You
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>>73308570
>>Progressivism is Christianity without Christ.
>Nope, it's a false God.

no true scotsman

You sound just like the Mudslimes. "ISIS isn't Islamic."

Progressivism is a secular variant of Christianity.
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>>73307708

>I'm not sure how are you using this argument against me, because it can be used against Germans too

It's almost like you're ignoring the point. The point being it invalidates any kind of ethical or moral platitudes you are pushing about Germany "taking" land from others.

>Plenty of other mass graves hosting other victims of Nazis.

[Citation Needed]

>You're referencing the ''research'' of that one guy who used ground-penetrating radar

You don't need ground penetrating radar to test soil composition jackass. Large amounts of ash leave large amounts of hydrogen and other elements in soil layers.

>Sorry, even if you love Hitler you still have to provide some proof, we can't just take your word for it.

I don't have to provide proof to point a lack of proof you dumb fuck. That's the point. The burden of proof is on the people making these assertions that HAVE no proof.

>Soviets had no reason to do that

So you're saying that the Soviets had no reason to hide evidence of mass murder? Yeah alright chief you keep believing that.

>Extrajudicial killing? No he didn't.

So are you implying that it is somehow okay for Obama to have American citizens murdered and imprisoned without a trial? I'll give you a hint: Try reading the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution.

>Panikos Panayi

Even the fucking work your citing says that the percentage of laborers was only 0.8% in 1939 and later at 19.9% in the year 1944. A fun little detail you left out because it makes your argument look fucking stupid.

>Hitler was worse than Stalin, let alone Churchill.

Thanks for that hot opinion based on entirely unproven and non-factual information.

>Nazis were guided by no laws.

Here's where the baseless rhetoric starts.
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>>73301042
fuck you
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>>73308014
I'm ignoring you because I explained you Holocaust wasn't the only Nazi crime, and that's the only area you idiots ''specialize'' in.
And I told you there are tens of thousands of books about Holocaust. Peer-reviewed. That's all the proof sane person needs, but you don't want to believe, so I can't really make you believe.
>>73308041
I don't really like American system buddy, I'm just saying American ideals are what makes America and Americans.
Allying with Nazi Germany was literally impossible proposition. It would be equivalent to destroying USA. Without your ideals, you're just a bunch of people of European descent with no roots who live on a piece of land with nothing to connect them.
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yes shlomo
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>>73309124
>there are tens of thousands of books about Holocaust. Peer-reviewed. That's all the proof sane person needs

More like it's all the proof a brainless sheep needs. You're appealing to a consensus, which is an inherently a fallacious argument. Six billion people can say the Earth is flat but that doesn't make it flat.
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Victors write history and, objectively, Nazi Germany got the same treatment as Imperial France did: vilified during the war and made into a huge, immortal example of evil. And, like the Napoleonic French, the Nazis were simple utopians who made the wrong powers angry with their egalitarian ambitions.

inb4 "calling people untermensch isn't egalitarian." If the entire world didn't ally against the Axis, the untermensch would have been relocated.
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>>73309124
>Peer-reviewed
peer reviewed is literally trash. How many peer reviewed papers, etc have you looked at? Literally peer reviewed doesn't mean shit except in very few fields it's just as shit as anything else and a large circle jerk among liberal academia
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>>73303833
t. mountain nigger
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>>73308622
Aryan is a meaningless pseudo-scientific term and Nazis weren't pan-Europeans contrary to memes here, they were German nationalists and imperialists. You as a non-German wouldn't enjoy any benefits of their glorious society. Which they would never build by the way, but that's a different subject.
Besides, Greeks as well as us were in Italian zone.
>>73308915
>Progressivism is a secular variant of Christianity.
Nope. It's a product of liberal capitalism.
>>73308972
>any kind of ethical or moral platitudes
So you believe stealing is okay?
>[Citation Needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes
Here, read.
>You don't need ground penetrating radar
Yes but I know what are you referencing. And I'm telling you that guy just said he didn't find anything, and then never published findings.
>I don't have to provide proof
You're talking about ''research'' that has shown there are no ashes. Point me to that research.
>had no reason
Exactly. It was done according to law. All shot were ''saboteurs and traitors''.
>was only 0.8% in 1939 and later at 19.9% in the year 1944
War started in 1939. I'm not sure what are you implying?
I simply said that at one point 20% of their workforce were slaves.
>non-factual information
I'm passing judgement on historical persons. I explained my reasoning earlier.
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>>73309482
Good luck getting peer reviewed if you go against the orthodoxy. The won't even look at it.
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>>73304269
>i can't provide proof, but ur a dumb simpleton :^)
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>>73309636
not sure if actual kike or goodgoy redditor
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>>73309784
he is a goodgoy

he already said that he is a Christian
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>>73309875
he even cites wikipedia
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>>73309258
>>73309482
>your proofs aren't proofs
There's no way we can discuss like this you know?
Holocaust is one of the most researched and documented events in human history.
It's more sound to deny Roman Empire ever existed, there's less evidence about that. You have no idea how retarded Holocaust denial is.
And you completely ignore that Holocaust wasn't the only Nazi crime, so you don't really vindicate Nazi regime if you prove Holocaust was of lesser scale or that it didn't happen (and by the way, very very few real Holocaust deniers claim mass Jewish deaths never happened, they just claim lesser numbers or that there was no intention of killing Jews).
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>>73309665
>not knowing how "peer-review" works.
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>>73304580
Because they fought white nations that didn't want to be white.
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>>73309951
>Holocaust is one of the most researched and documented events in human history.
where are the proofs, then?
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>>73301042
The good guys definitely lost.
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>>73309959
Ok, tell me what happened to David Irving.
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>>73309784
>>73309875
Now if only hot memes could rebuild Third Reich and prevent Hitler from shooting himself like a little bitch :^)
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>>73309951
>Holocaust is one of the most researched and documented events in human history.
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>>73307149
>Not sure if Poland Ball or Indonesia Ball
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>>73310169
so no proofs of the Holocaust
despite your assertion that it is the most well documented event in human history

yet no proof exists
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>>73301042
The good guys (Germans) did lose ww2.
The Japanese weren't good or bad, they were just imperialists.

But Germany was fighting against globalism and the new world order that we find ourselves now struggling against.
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>>73301042
The "good guys" are always who ever wins and writes history.
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>>73301042
The good guys DID lose. The only reason a lazy burger stuffing ameritard moron fights over anything is because of money. As soon as it affects their pocketbooks they fight. We're basically the biggest bunch of kikes there is. If any country wants to draw us into war all they have to do is stand up for their own economies.
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>>73309636

>So you believe stealing is okay?

Let's say someone steals my car.

Is it ethically unacceptable to go steal it back?

No. This is called repossession.

>Here, read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%9350)

Here, read.

>You're talking about ''research'' that has shown there are no ashes. Point me to that research.

What part of "there is no proof of mass graves or massive amounts of ash" do you not understand? Do you have difficulty understanding that claims the Holocaust happen have no proof behind them? If the Holocaust happened it's as easy to proof as a soil composition test. If there were evidence they'd parade it around. They don't, because the Holocaust as it's taught never happened. The burden of proof is on the people who claim the Holocaust happened.

>Exactly. It was done according to law. All shot were ''saboteurs and traitors''.

So, hypothetically, if the Nazis had passed laws to exterminate all the Jews then it would have been okay to do so?

>War started in 1939. I'm not sure what are you implying?

I'm not implying anything. I'm directly telling you that you are full of shit and you're intentionally leaving out information that makes your argument look retarded. How much of their workforce do you think they had left when all the young men were being trundled off to war exactly?

>I'm passing judgement on historical persons. I explained my reasoning earlier.

Whereas I'm explaining to you that your reasoning is fallacious and based on outright lies and half-truths.
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>>73301042
both sides entirely controlled by joos
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England and France shouldn't have declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland. Let Germany have all of that shit, let Germany be reactionary. Should have let Germany wipe out the Russians too.

The US should have been more friendly with Japan and let them control more of East Asia.

A lot of American, British, German, French, and Japanese lives could have been saved and the world would probably be less degenerate now.

Also the Korean War and Vietnam War wouldn't have happened.

There probably wouldn't be all this terrorism bullshit right now.

There wouldn't be all these decadence and empty capitalism.

Also Italy could have just chilled instead of getting all ass-blasted.
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>>73309951

>Holocaust is one of the most researched and documented events in human history.

So where's the hard factual evidence?
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fuck you
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>>73310463
>someone steals my car
You fail to understand that land was originally Polish. It was then stolen by Germans.
Then Hitler tried to take it again.
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>>73301854
Underrated comment.

Good bye history, patronage, and ancestors.
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>>73301042
Considering how much cuckporn is on this board, it is not surprising there are unironical nazis as well.
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>>73301960
This anon and post also hits the mark.
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>>73310545
>England and France shouldn't have declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland. Let Germany have all of that shit, let Germany be reactionary. Should have let Germany wipe out the Russians too.
Agree

>The US should have been more friendly with Japan and let them control more of East Asia.
Eh, sort of... more than what? Honestly I think the US should have just taken control of big chunks of East Asia directly, rather than letting it fall apart and waiting for Japan to jump in before getting warlike. There was no reason to provoke Japan with the oil embargo, of course.
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