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Give me one flaw with this man.
He is not controlled by puppets or is a racist bigot threatening world war 3. He also fights against corruption and stupid trade deals.

Hillary flaws:
>puppet to wallstreet
>full of corruption and bad decision making
>supported invasion of Iraq
>supports awful trade agreements
>email scandal

Trump flaws:
>Wants to give nuclear weapons to north korea/japan
>Wants to start trade wars with china and mexico and destroy the economy
>Wants to punish woman who want abortions
>Will keep loopholes open because hes profited from them.
>Wants to end NATO and make the world more dangerous to everyone except Russia
>intelligence of a third grader.

The american people are too blind to know how deep the flaws of the front runners are.
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>>73289175
He doesn't understand simple math.
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>>73289175
He's not a corporate Establishment sell out, hence he has a low chance of winning.
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Economically illiterate
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>>73289226
how? Taxing the rich more will pay for everything. If the billionaires/CEOS were taxed more and tax havens stopped, it could pay for education and infrastructure.
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>>73289175

he thinks a student loan and a home loan should have the same interest

also,

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
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>>73289175
he voted in favor of the 1994 assault rifle ban. that being said he is still way better than clinton.
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>>73289175

He wants to ban most firearm purchases and he's anti-white.

Two for the price of one. You're welcome.
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>>73290816
>>73290795
So did Australia.
How many mass shootings have they had since they implemented gun control?

Or are you in favor of watching innocent people die.
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>>73289175
Old age.
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>>73289175

>Bernie not destroying the economy.

In fact the economy is dead as we speak... its a ticking time bomb of debt as is.
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>>73289175
Agree 100%. People are so fucking dense and have shallow critical thinking skills in America due to cultural brainwashing. Voting for anyone other than Sanders is literally voting against your own interest, unless you're a billionaire or part of the oligarchy.
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>>73289455
>Taxing the rich more will pay for everything
Go ahead and see what happens when you raise the highest corporate tax rate in any Western developed country even higher. I'm sure this is too much for you to understand, Australian's little bro.
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>>73290944

>implying I should care more about mass shootings than my own rights
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Bernie is a literal allende
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>>73289175

He is an ideologue for a cause he doesn't fully understand and shows no self-awareness.
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>>73289175
>creepy old jew
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>>73289175
>Give me one flaw with this man.
He won't win
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>>73291731
Actually this is the only flaw I agree with. Maybe he needed more charisma and energy to win. Humbleness gets you no were in american politics.
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trump

>never said that
>renegotiated deals
>if threat to mother
>never said that
>intent
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>He is not ... a racist bigot threatening world war 3.
I found the flaw.
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>>73289175
>Give me one flaw with this man.

Nothing, he's perfect.
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>>73289175
>Give me one flaw with this man.

He hires illegals over hard working real Americans.

Who gives a fuck about the rules when you can just shortcut your way in front of everyone else trying to get in?
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>>73289175
yet he'll not qualify because the population that need sanders the most is also rabid antisemitc and see him as the antechrist
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>>73289175
He can't seem to understand the concept of 19 trillion dollars of debt. That's a pretty serious flaw.
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>>73291826
He got cucked off stage by two female niggers, how's he going to debate with world leaders if he can't hold his ground at his own rally?
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>>73291954
>He hires illegals over hard working real Americans.

So does Trump...
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>>73292147
>Antichrist , no
>anti-Semitic , yes

The general distrust of Jews by poor Americans is due to the way Jewish people here treat them.
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Those flaws with Trump that you listed aren't right.

>wants to give nuclear weapons to North Korea and Japan.

Nope. He wants SOUTH Korea and Japan to defend themselves. He didn't say he was going to give them the weapons, that's what he doesn't want. He doesn't want the US to give everyone military aid with nothing in return.

>wants trade wars with China and Mexico

He wants to fix the trade imbalance with the countries, where we have trade deficits with them.

>wants to punish women who want abortions
The doctors will be punished, not women. When he was asked that question, it was a hypothetical scenario where abortion is illegal. If you do something illegal, you get punished.

>wants to end NATO
He wants a reform on it. He thinks it's objective needs to be modernized and more countries need to a get involved.

>intelligence of a third greater
"Not an arguement." - Stefan Molyneux
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>>73289175
He let two black wymen take the podium from him like it was nothing. That's not very leader-like
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>>73292743
>"Not an arguement." - Stefan Molyneux

Stefan is a cult leader.
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>>73289175
He's communist.
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>>73289455
Raising taxes on millionaires+ to 100% wouldn't fund the government for 6 months. And then those people are flat broke and you've exhausted your "revenue" source.
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>>73292743
Forgot to add, you were right with Hillary's issues, but I think the email scandal was proven to not have anything illegal, but I bet it'll still be held against her.

And where's the proof that Trump is a racist bigot?

If anything, Bernie is a self hating racist. How about when Bernie said white people can't be poor?

Also
>Democratic Socialism won't work in the USA
>his ideas cost too much
>his ideas will greatly increase taxes
>wants gun control
>can't win the nomination
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>>73292972
And you are a fascist.
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>>73289175
>was going to post a rebuttal
>saw your flag

get fucked commie
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>>73289175
He does not talk about trade deficits, Trump does.
He does not talk about eliminating the deficit allowing the US to pay down debt, Trump does.
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>>73291126
It's not voting against your own interest to want to pay only for the college costs you incurred. 10 year student loan is finite, and is only what you yourself have spent.
Tax increase means you are paying for college for the rest of your life, and paying for more than your own expenses.

It's not free.

Furthermore, if you have ever worked in any manner with directly with recipients of social services benefits of any kind, you see very very quickly how awful an idea it is to expand them.

Social safety nets destroyed the black community, incentivized single motherhood, and made "work" a dirty word.

Why would we want to expand that? Americans are extremely individualistic and culturally heterogenous. Socialism like his just will not work.

And that's before even touching the fact that it would water down bachelors To the point that a PhD would be de rigeur, meaning student loans debt would still be a thing.
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>>73291100
Reminder that Trump is only 5 years younger than Bernie
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Raise corporate taxes-corporations move elsewhere.

This is simple shit man.
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>>73292806
NOT
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>>73292743
Trump wants more countries to have nuclear weapons. The more countries that have nuclear weapons, the more dangerous the world becomes.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/30/11332074/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-japan-south-korea-saudi-arabia
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>Intelligence of a 3 grader
If you think that Trump is stupid, read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. It's literally play by play of that book. Why do you think his book is called The Art of the Deal? Do you even have books in Kiwiland?
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>>73293311
Presidency is at most 8 years. 5 makes a big difference. Also trump is in better health.

The 3 minute clip of Bernie staring at a bird shows he has already begun to enter dementia.
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>>73289175
too idealistic
doesn't understand economics
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>>73293172
You mean you have no rebuttal, straw-man rapist.
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>>73293403
I generally agree with the sentiment that more nukes is a terrible idea. But there is also a case to be made that, as odious as the current Saudi regime is, the alternative there is far worse. Nuclear South Korea might pump the brakes on the North's aggression. Or it might catalyze further aggression?

My point isn't that these countries should be nuclear or shouldn't. My point is that geopolitics is a fucking nightmarish realm of "lesser of two evils" choices that gives normal human beings headaches to even think about.

Generally speaking, kiwi bro, I agree that we probably don't need any more nuclear states. I'm more just pointing out other factors for discussion.
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>>73293403
Like I said, he's not going to give them nukes. He said (even in the article) he's allow them to develop weapons. I never said that he didn't want them to have nukes, because he said he'd allow them to have it. I just said he wouldn't give them the nukes. He doesn't wanna just give foreign countries military aid all the time.
You said that he was gonna give North Korea and Japan nukes, which is wrong because he wants them to make their own, and he was talking about South Korea, not North Korea.
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>>73290944
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>>73289175
Communist Jew.

I know that's two flaws but I feel those two especially need to be stressed.
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>>73293149
What was that capitalist country with a fascist leader called again?
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>>73294076
of course gun deaths would drop if guns are made harder to get

the question is did murder rate drop or are criminals just using a different tool to do the job?
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>>73294162
I will give you Jew, but how is communist a deal breaker? The only reason "He is not controlled by puppets or is a racist bigot threatening world war 3. He also fights against corruption and stupid trade deals." is because he is a commie. Saying that you like his (communist) policies but are against his communism is very strange.
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Hes Old and will make this country lazy and weak. While i think hes better then hilary (anyone is better then hilary) these democrats love to take and give to the poor. Even when some of these people that are given financial aid are druggies.

You're a democrat unless you pay taxes.
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>>73294336
Why does the left care about the portion of gun deaths that involve suicide anyway when they support assisted suicde? Makes no sense.
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>>73294336
yeah good point.

But if you were in a school with a murder on the loose. Would you rather him have an AR-15 or a knife?
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>>73289175
>He is not controlled by puppets
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>>73294468
>but how is communist a deal breaker?
Because it threatens Western civilisation, guy.
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>>73294468
Fighting against corruption and bad trade deals are not communist policies. Which means he's either lying or a communist. Both of which are equally likely due to him being a filthy Jew.
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>>73294553
if someone is trying to massacre people and he can't get a hold of a gun i think his second option won't be knife. he'd probably look up how to make pipe bombs.
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I don't understand why /pol/ hates Bernie so much. Isn't literally ANYBODY better than having shillary as the democrat nominee? Bitch lied ahd cheated her way to the top once, you think she won't do it all the way to the white house if she gets the chance?
Trump has no political clout, if shillary starts pulling the strings and voting machines """"accidentally"""" start miscounting votes in favor of dems he's fucking done
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senile hebrew
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>>73294553
I'd rather have my own AR 15 and not die like a fucking cuck
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>>73294872
>Isn't literally ANYBODY better than having shillary as the democrat nominee?
Yes, but we live in the real world and in the real world Shillary is the Democratic nominee and Bernie is still a communist Jew.
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>>73289175

I currently make about 52k a year. Not only does approximately 21% of my income go to taxes, but I also ended up owing 1,200 last year.

Bernies tax plan would cost me an additional 800 a month in taxes.

>sure is great to be a single white cis male with no children or health issues. I'm privileged to pay more in taxes.
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>>73295176
I am voting for Hillary in the primary because I hate Bernie so much and I know he could stand a chance against the God-Emperor Himself.
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>>73289175
jew
socialist
wants less white people
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>>73291215
> raise the highest corporate tax rate

This maymay needs to end.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-corporate-idUSBREA1P04Q20140226
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>>73294553
I'd probably rather him have a knife. But I'd also probably wish I could conceal carry at schools and I'd probably be thankful that he didn't decide to commit arson, which accounts for most of Australia's mass murders with death counts in the double digits Port Arthur aside). Australia still has mass shootings and mass shootings such as these are still relatively rare regardless of whether you're talking about America or Australia.
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>>73294872
>Isn't literally ANYBODY better than having shillary as the democrat nominee?

No. Hillary may be a corruptable traitor but Bernie is still a communist.
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>>73295263
Are you saying you will NEVER have kids and will be healthy till the second you die?

Even if you are infertile and will never get sick in your entire life, you will still benefit from him getting money out of politics so koch brothers dont control your government
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>>73291603
This, he is a careerist scoring cheap points with ideologue idiots and kids.
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>>73289175
He's a shillary puppet that's why he refuses to attack her and tries to get everyone to forget her felonies.
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>>73295176
>>73295500
>muh communist meme
that's the point you retards, Bernie could never win in the primary because he's a commie but shillary can
i bet you're hillshills, nobody on /pol/ could be this stupid
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>>73295502

The taxes I mentioned does not include the $200 a month tax I pay now for my Obamacare which has fine coverage.
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>>73295502
He's right though.

Young, educates, single, middle class men are those most likely to start small businesses and innovate because they're able to take risk. Why in God's fuck name would you want to tax them that high?

He could be doing far more productive things with those dollars than the government is giving them away to illegals and welfare shits.
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>>73295624
Why the fuck would anyone shill in a race that's already over? Can you not do math?

The only race left is God Emperor vs Hildebeast you stupid fucking bernout.
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>>73295624

>Bernie could never win in the primary
I assume you mean could never win in the general otherwise you wouldn't waste your time pleading for people to vote for him in the primary. That being the case it is still too dangerous to get a commie that close to the presidency. I'm not even comfortable with him running in the primaries.
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>>73295624
where did bernie have his honeymoon?
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>>73294665
who is exactly is he owned by?
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>>73291215
>highest corporate tax rate
Too bad theres loopholes so many of them pay $0 tax. You need someone to end the tax evasion and it wont be from some american billionaire who loves loopholes.
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>>73289175
he's a cuck
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>>73296579
The Treasure Department actually just recently declared they'd throw the hammer down on anyone doing equity inversion going forward and big business threw a shit fit. It only took 35 years..

The Obama administration has been below shit tier but credit where credit is due, they (presumably) accidentally did something good for this country at long last.
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