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Why is paying for sex considered degenerate?
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Is paying for escorts/hookers actually degenerate if you're not in a committed relationship? Seems like jealous women are the main reason it's even illegal. It's safe as long as it's regulated like in Nevada. If their body is their main asset, why not just get to the point and sell it off? Women should want it to be legalized because there's a great way to close that gender pay gap they whine about. The idea of hookers ate getting more appealing to me the more regressive women become. I was considering paying for pic related because the price was right, and she was rated well. I decided not to because when looking up her Facebook info I found that she has a boyfriend which is a deal breaker for me.
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>>73263840
You intended to pay for sex, like up front? That's degenerate. And sure, it's probably jealous women and "righteous" Christian men and feels that is keeping prostitution illegal.
Go flirt or hook up at a bar or something, bro. Costs less in the end if it's only casual.
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>>73263840
>Why is paying for sex considered degenerate?
>she has a boyfriend

Why are whores degenerate? That's like asking why is fat fatting?

Take a cold shower and spend your time on better things, OP.
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>>73263840
You have no clue what you are talking about.

One of the main reasons Germany's birth rate is so low, long term working relationships are less stable and the young generation has become sexually unstable, is legal prostitution.

It fucks the prostitutes' minds up (they are all young women from Eastern Europe - we have a total of 500,000 prostitutes in Germany) and it fucks with the men who visit prostitutes.

I am seeing it every day, I live in a German city and there are thousands of prostitutes here. Degeneracy isn't even the right word to describe it. I get an "end of the world" or a "before Rome fell" vibe here.
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>>73264044
>Go flirt or hook up at a bar or something, bro.
but what if youre ugly and have no social skills, then prostitutes are your only option
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>>73264044
Paying for sex actually benefits conservative values. Instead of men fucking women and creating illegitimate children they have sex with a well regulated prostitution class and do not create children that drain the public fund and delegitimize family values. But cuckservatives are too stuck up their own cunts to deal with sanity.
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>5'2"
>36D
>doesn't show her body

That whore is fat as fuck, guaranteed senpai
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>>73264150
Would an ugly autist even have the balls to pay a prostitute?
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>>73264044

As opposed to buying them a meal, jewelry, etc. Either way, it amounts to paying for sex in most cases, doesn't it?

>>73264145

Prostitution happens regardless of legality. But when it's illegal, there are no laws regulating health standards, you can't go to the cops if someone defrauds you, etc.

The benefits of having it illegal are easily outweighed by the negatives.
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>>73264073
Because spread of diseases, that's why it's bad.
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>>73264221
No, just look at wizardchan, /r9k/, /jp/, etc.
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>>73264209
>Instead of men fucking women and creating illegitimate children

Perhaps only in Burgerland where abstinence is taught as a viable option, rendering generations clueless of the concept of safe sex.
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>>73263840
>Is paying for escorts/hookers actually degenerate if you're not in a committed relationship? Seems like jealous women are the main reason it's even illegal.
Yes, it is. One of the grandest tricks women ever pulled was making the illegality of prostitution and a stupidly high AoC a conservative issue.

It's not.
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>>73264257
>As opposed to buying them a meal, jewelry, etc. Either way, it amounts to paying for sex in most cases, doesn't it?

This doesn't sound very casual. Perhaps a meal, but that's hardly going to be expensive.
Relationships are expensive though, yes.
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>>73264073

Pic related is the boyfriend. I am guessing he has to know and is a literal cuck. If you google her first/last name the first thing that comes up are prostitution charges against her in Massachusetts a few years ago. There is no way he can't know.
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>>73264406
>Arbitrary 3 dates
>Women just go for 2 dates with a guy, getting expensive steak dinners and shit
>Only fuck them if they think he'll be a good cash cow

That's the status quo we have right now. Are you really satisfied with it?

Sex robots soon, guys.
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>>73264150
Then you're in an situation that it
is unacceptable for you to get laid.
Learn social skills and not how to be a
beta, so your chances of getting laid
increase dramatically. With blood sweat
and tears you will become better off improving
yourself then if you just fucked a hooker
outright.
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>>73264325
Come on now, let's not pretend. My nation is fucked badly, but so is yours. Rape epidemic, illegitimate children skyrocketing, social system collapse. Create a prostitution class for the muzzies to use instead of raping people.
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>meet a prostitute
>pay her
>have sex

>meet a "non prostitute"
>take her to restaurants, buy her shit, waste your time
>and after a month have casual sex by begging her

Hmmmmmm
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>>73264466
kek
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>>73264519
>That's the status quo we have right now. Are you really satisfied with it?

Honestly, this isn't my experience at all. I feel bad for anyone that has to go through this.
Most of my girlfriends, even female friends say they usually fuck on first date. Fucked most of them too so I know.
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> is paying for sex degenerate?

We always pay for sex, one way or another. Whethere it's time, money, or a false rape conviction
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>>73264712

My current GF and I had sex on the 2nd date, but her ex has gone on like 8 or 9 dates with a few women and they just stop replying after the second date. Worst part is, he's specifically going after the heavy-set women, so it isn't exactly exclusive to Hollywood supermodels.
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>>73264211

She's not skinny by any means, and is obviously tucking that shit in. Still well within my standards though.
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>>73264257
>Prostitution happens regardless of legality.
It was illegal in Germany just a few decades ago. Then the German government introduced the most liberal prostitution laws worldwide.

We have morphed into "prostitution central" with millions of sex tourists per year. We get more sex tourists than Thailand, not even kidding. The number of prostitutes, including trafficked and exploited women, has gone up massively. In 2000 we had between 150,000 and 200,000 prostitutes, now it is over 500,000. And the German population has remained stable. Guess what this means? The number of clients has gone up massively.

I have had sex with 3 prostitutes while here in Germany. All of them high end escorts. I regret having done it. It is like taking a hard drug, it fucks up your mind completely. And if you make a habit out of it, forget about ever being in a loving relationship EVER again.

Think people, think. Prostitution is not the answer. Drugs are not the answer. Nationalism is! Let us do away with this degeneracy which is everywhere. We need to go back to women as in pic related.
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>>73263840
Because actually paying for sex is considered being cheap.
You are supposed to giveaway your life for 10 to 20 sessions of sex.
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>>73263840
A real man should never pay for sex with women. If you don't agree with me, then you're a cuck and guys like you are ruining America.
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>>73263840
It's only degenerate to christ thumping beta faggots that haven't actually experienced women and think it's possible to live the perfect white virgin wife myth. There is literally nothing wrong with paying an adult for sex. Unless it's a nigger.
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>>73264840
>Worst part is, he's specifically going after the heavy-set women

Kek'd. Those women are either really hungry for any penis coming their way or in deep denial of their own bodies so they're super picky. Either way, fucking heavy women is sorta like fucking a barrel, or a stranded walrus in my experience. Last fatty I was inside (I think) I had to lay ontop of (couldn't really reach down with my arms to keep my self above her), wondering how this whale ended up on the beach.
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>>73265130

He's just being jerked around. It's really sad. He's bi, though, so it's easy enough for him to get his jollies, but he's at the point where he's just going to write-off women as a whole. Too much hassle.
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>>73265252
If you like to take the cock up the ass too, why not write off all women. We CIS straight men have it tougher.
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>>73264150
Honestly why go to a bar?
You are limiting yourself to just the females there. GO online find out about them ( i.e if they are compatible) and then taken them to a bar and drink for added social lubricant.
A bar is a pointless waste of money. if you have no social skills a bar is pointless. if you already have, then use them online.
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>>73264145
bro they are all whores.
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>>73265122
And this is why Americans can never be true nationalists. Christianity has nothing to do with the degeneracy of prostitution.

I am as non-religious as it comes. I live 10 min from various brothels, 25 min from FKK clubs with young, good looking Eastern European women and 20 min from various high class apartment escort services which also do home calls.

And I KNOW this is degenerate.
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>>73265414
You'll find what you're looking for either way, bar (or just the outside) and online.
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>>73264145
>Weimar Revisited
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>>73264466
this is why I love 4chan
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>>73263840
If you have to pay for sex, you've got a problem. I'm not saying it should be illegal but it is definitely degenerate.
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>>73265130
they've all become and act like supermodels in their own mind bro
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>>73265385

I mean, anal feels the same with both genders, but I really like breasts (GF has 34G's, lol).
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There's nothing wrong with a business arrangement pursued safely with the consent of all parties provided that the profits from such an arrangement don't go toward degenerate habits such as substance addiction. If the prostitute is in a safe, discreet, and healthy environment (all of which will cost you) then you shouldn't be concerned with "muh degeneracy."

TLDR...The average street hooker is degenerate. Dennis Huff's establishment in NV is not.
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>>73265516
I can respect your opinion on the issue, although my statement about it mainly being something that brings asspain to christfags remains true. But I am quite confused why you feel that me not thinking prostitution is an issue makes me incapable of being a nationalist. I am most definitely a nationalist. How does fucking whores from time to time interfere with that concept?

If you are single and want to fuck, it's best to just pay a whore for their services and be done with it. It doesn't mean you never want to have a family. When I was in college and working, naturally I wanted pussy on the weekends, but didn't have the time to go meet women and spend time on relationship bullshit. Spending a few hundred bucks a month to slam all the pussy I wanted to help get me through the stress of those years was a great decision.
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>>73265662

I am a charmless awkward guy. Having a woman be attracted to me is next to impossible. I don't see how it'd be degenerate to pay someone to help you fulfill a natural desire.
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>>73266212
It is "degenerate" because so called Alphas not only want to fuck women, they want Betas to not fuck woman

I only fucked hookers so far, and I enjoyed it. I was never into relationships because I am unlikable and I enjoy vidya and books, not dancing and clubs. Tried fixing this situation for sake of my mental health numerous times, but it cannot be done, so I called quits, and enjoy depraved sexual degeneracy.
1 tall blonde blue eyed guy in gene pool less.
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Find a woman you beta loser. Unless you're a mongrel, then please continue until you get hep c and aids and die.
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whats the difference?

youre going to have to pay them anyways
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>>73266432
The difference is Wimyn feel better about themselves if you make them believe they have feelings towards you before you get them drunk and fuck them.
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>>73264466
Does he moonlight as a rooster?
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>>73263840
Yeah, I get really pissed about it. I want to try escorts but feel shameful about it because it's frowned upon. It's my only hope of ever having sex.

>>73264044
That would only work if you're a Chad.
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>>73266709
i dont like relationships because i like to play instruments and record and every time theyve tried to make me change who i am and its really annoying
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>>73266709
> The difference is Wimyn feel better about themselves if you make them believe they have feelings towards you before you get them drunk and fuck them.
This is not an advantage.
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>>73263840
I honestly think that sex workers should be protected, legalized, but remain lesser classes of society.
I was sexually outgoing for a good portion of my life, but then I conquered my depression that drove me to do such and I'd honestly just focus on building my life while getting a good massage with some sex at the end here and there rather than have to spend my time in the dating scene. It's great having a woman wake up next to you in the morning whom cares for and about you. They are too few and far between though and I don't like having to tinder or scrounge bars for mightaswellbe whores to get my rocks off.
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Women that are prostitutes promote feminism and feminism promotes prostitution it's all degenerate.
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>>73263840
I hate women, so I use hookers.
I'm not even ugly. I am told to be quite attractive all my life. Even on soc and fit I have been rated with 8s and a few 7s.

I just don't like women. Their character, their neediness, etc. I want to use up my time just for my own things like improving my skills and career. I'm 25 and I don't want to get married and have kids until I'm in my 30s. And I'll do it with someone who's 8-10 years younger than me. That's my plan.
For now, its me me me. I had a gf for 8 years and I dumped her because she was becoming too neeedy and time consuming, and pulling me down in my dreams. And what for? so she could dump me in my 30s or 40s take the few I made until that point and then get together with some younger/richer faggot while I go back to hj because at that point I'm a loser who neglected his life due to some useless cunt, so I just end my own life in my 40s or 50s? not happening.

I fuck escorts to alleviate my biological needs and that's it.

fuck women. (literally and figuratively)
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>>73264150
I am sorry you have self esteem issues.
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what's next, paying for the cinema is degenerate?

there's nothing degenerate about paying for sex at all
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>>73263840
Why is the pope considered catholic?

Seriously, dude, I have a hard time thinking of anything MORE degenerate than prostitution, or buying one.
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>>73267465
how about shitting your pants at Walmart ® cos they moved the canned cheese to the lowest shelf, and you had to bend over and your humongous anus couldn't carry on supporting all that built up chipotle ®?

that's definitely more degenerate than having tasty cuntilingus with a top class sex worker.
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>>73267465
Prostitution prevents degeneracy.
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Not degenerate unless you do it on a regular basis. Like several months after a breakup, if you're still paying prostitutes instead of trying to find a replacement cum-dumpster you're a degenerate.
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Why pay for something you can get for free? Women are despicable whores these days and will fuck you if you give them attention.
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