Is Zoloft the literal bluepill?
>>73242622
This is the bluepill, Zoloft and Xanax are just legal heroin sold by big pharma. I don't see any wrong in using it if you want to, but you should be allowed to accept your own levels of risk.
>>73242972
>Zoloft and Xanax are just legal heroin sold by big pharma
thats oxycontin, those 2 are some fucked up industrial pollutant that make you suicidal and kill sealife when you piss them out
>>73242622
well, it is blue and a pill, so yes it is "the literal bluepill."
Also the withdraws are a nightmare. SSRI's should be used with extreme caution. Withdraws from SSRI's are literal hells that can cause permeate brain damage and last up to 6 months to years.
>>73243301
You literally have to re-learn how to manage emotions when you get on/off of them.
>>73242972
>zoloft
>like heroin
at least heroin is enjoyable. Zoloft just fucks you up
>>73242622
I feel nothing senpai.
>>73243797
>mfw about to score heroin
>mfw i've been doing opiates for years
>mfw im better off then the retards who fell for the pharmajews SSRI's
>mfw im a happy guy
>>73242622
I was on them a few years ago. It fucked my shit up. I could barely get out of bed on a morning, I still felt depressed as hell but didn't care about anything (so it fixed my anxiety in a way), sleep paralysis was common, and the withdrawals were hell when I realised enough was enough. I couldn't eat, constant cold sweats and shaking, nightmares, emotions all over the place, and severe suicidal ideation,
If you are ever put on anti-depressants you should always do extensive research about the side effects and consequences. I was foolish enough to just trust my doctor who was probably getting money to peddle this shit.
>>73245261
>heroin
That's escapism. Completely degenerate.
Zoloft makes me robotically efficient.
>>73243237
Ha...
>>73242622
I took it and literally a week after i got fucked up. I am now questioning being trans after 6 months being on it. I had no idea why i got so fucked up by i tracked it back to this medicine.
I told my psychiatrist to immediately get me off it. Its terrible. Dont take it. I went from straight and serious to a cute twink in no time. I think it fucked me permanently
>>73245638
>robotically efficient.
Good goy, keep working.
zoloft made me have severe giggle attacks.
worse than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjTUj-_Mxs
god tier: marijuana
meh tier: opium, cocaine, ketamine, mushrooms, lsd, encode
pussy tier: benzos, anti depressants, anti consultants, high dose oxycontin
retard tier: meth, heroin, cigarettes, alcohol
>>73242622
Wtf are those?
>>73250245
>retard tier: Alcohol.
What?
>>73250346
You should know. You're country manufacturers them to sell to the goyim and get them hooked.
>>73250471
Ok, it's anti depressant.
Yeah it's super jew, does it even help anyone besides making the addicted?
Plus wtf is that trans side effect? >>73249928
>>73250717
>If you need meds just to get through the fucking day
My blood clots, genetic thing. I don't take my thinners and I die slow, does that count?
>>73250634
It fucks with your brain and makes you thinks the opposite. I hated transexuals and gays next thing i know im begging for cock and wanting to look like a soft cute girl.
The thoughts wont exit your head and you wanna kill yourself from it.
At least im not an sjw.
I was on a generic form of Zoloft for a little while. Made my orgasms extremely intense and extra pleasurable for some reason, but that only lasted about a week. That was nice. Didn't do much for me after that.
>>73245638
I remember doing Zoloft for a couple years, it was literally "Hide the pain away: the drug", didn't help with anything and made me SJW like
Then I got off it, I felt sad, but at least I felt like my true self instead of like some fucking retarded idiot.
>>73250955
>begging for cock and wanting to look like a soft cute girl.
>>73251813
>sjw
So, pussy, the drug?
Of all the drugs to be scared of, Zoloft seems like the tamest one.
Wow, it makes you not have anxiety attacks, surely it must be the undoing of society!
>>73251813
Also in regards to making me efficient, I'm pretty lazy now being off zoloft, and usually I never use an agenda/organizer for planning because I spend too much time worrying with anxiety and depression. But then again, I wasn't really any better on Zoloft because I was still a lazy fuck who never used an organizer, only instead of worrying, it was usually some shit that covered up the worrying.
It's been about 4 years since I last did that shit though, and last time I did it (after being off it for about a year or a couple months), I used an object as a dildo while crying (I guess made sense since the first week I used it back around 2009 was one of the worst weeks of my life, and I felt pretty suicidal, sad and helpless as fuck).
Yeah... too much information on the last part
>>73252069
More like liberalism: the drug
I'm still pretty emotionally sensitive, but at least I'm not a liberal
>>73242622
No. Atheism is.
IIRC it was a sampler of zoloft that contributed to a mental breakdown of mine many years back
>>73242622
Xanax would be the bluepill if it worked longer than a few hours. It makes you blissfully dumb and fucks with your memory. I have a bunch in my stash and use it recreationally sometimes (more like twice) and while it didn't turn me into a raging lefttard, it made me just stop caring.
The literal bluepill is probably an antipsychotic that degenerates your frontal lobe, like Rispridal or Zyprexa. That shit will ruin you for life.
It's hard to attribute a single drug to being "bluepilled" because bluepilled people are actually mentally active and angry, they just have distorted thinking. Xanax would fit the bill if bluepilled meant blissfully ignorant
I was on Lexapro for 9 months about 3 years ago after being (mis)diagnosed with GAD. It turned me into a massive violent/suicidal asshole as well as a faggot. I would also act like I was fucking demon possessed if I drank alcohol. I would have random blackouts and wake up to find things like having my foot sliced open and a knife in my hand.
The only positive is that I ended up having a vision/religious experience that made me stop being a atheist fedora. Because of that and all the basically acting possessed that also happened, I'm now pretty convinced that SSRIs open your brain to spiritual dimensions in some weird way.
Seriously though, I'm really lucky I didn't end up dead or in prison. Fuck SSRIs.
>>73245638
Escapism is good once in a while, gotta have a bender once in a while to blow off steam otherwise the stress just turns your thinking into a downward spiral.
>currently high on kratom on a friday night listening to comfy german tunes
>>73252808
>GAD
Take magnesium bruh, also works for massive hangovers.
>>73243797
How so? I've been on Zoloft for ~10 years, since early childhood
>>73252946
Don't you think there's anything weird about being dependent on a brain-altering chemical every day for a decade?
can anybody post some science?
>>73250245
patrician tier: LSD, opioids, disassociatives, shrooms, alcohol
thinking in circles tier: weed
>>73242622
Do you even Seroquel? Shit makes you dopey and just not give a fuck.
>>73250346
It's medicine for the goyim.
>>73252919
Like I said, I was misdiagnosed. I actually have Adult ADHD. Magnesium also totally works for it, been taking mineral supps for like a year now.
>>73250634
It's the only thing that makes following your religious laws seem possible.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/psychiatric-drugs-become-talk-of-the-ultra-orthodox-community-1.425727
>>73253389
I've been taking magnesium for a month and I'm still getting good results from it. I use it for my debilitating fatigue.
>>73250955
That has nothing to do with the meds and everything to do with you being a faggot.
I was recently put on bupropion.
Does anyone have any information on if this is good or not?
I've tried looking up reviews but considering the only people who review them are mentally unwell people, I can't really take their word for it.
>>73253515
>take brain-altering chemical
>it changes your thoughts
>>73252885
>>73251813
It has allowed my to, for the most part, fully bury emotion. I'm not happy, I'm not sad.
>>73250245
Marijuana is shit. It is neurotoxic, the high is shit and you become an apathetic slob.
God tier: LSD, shrooms, cocaine, mescaline, DMT, amphetamines
Meh tier: Alcohol, cigs, heroin, meth
Pussy tier: Anti-depressants, Benzos, MDMA
Shit tier: Marijuana, PCP
>>73253684
>Bupropion is a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI), and it serves as an atypical antidepressant different from most commonly prescribed antidepressants such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs).[10]
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Pharms_Bupropion.shtml
I don't trust antidepressants in general (besides maybe tianeptine), but you should make your own judgement and stop taking it if you feel like it's not helping.
>>73253294
This
I have a small stash someone gave me years ago - I'd use them to fall asleep after psychedelics - and the entire next day I'd feel nigger-tier stupid.
>>73252919
Nothing better than l-theanine for hangovers. Take one or two before bed after a night of drinking and if you still have a hangover in the morning take one more. It's good for your liver & helps it faster metabolize the acetaldehyde.
>Here, goy, take these magic pills for eight weeks and tell us how you feel! We don't really know how they work or what they do but whatever lmao. They'll also break your dick and leave you shitting blood while not showing any positive effects whatsoever, but that just means they haven't started working yet! Good goy!
Never again.
Why the fuck would anyone use SSRI when there are SNRIs and god tier ad - Wellbutrin? Also, I was on velaxin and I it helped me, the only downside was that it made me yawn every three minutes for the first several days.
SSRI are really shit tier drugs cardio is proved to be better for mental health than zoloft.
tell me more about your personal details, and please do that without using vpn, so we can do the profiling a little better.
>>73253097
Well yeah, but are there any side effects? Like major ones? I was 10 when I was prescribed so I just went with my mom and doctor said
>>73253684
This is the best antidepressant.
>>73242622
It's not a bluepill it's a nothing pill. If your doc puts you on Zoloft it's his way of saying "fuck you see a therapist, faggot." If you're on Haldol and lithium and shit like that, different story.
>put on risperdal when I was teen because bipolar
>develop gynecomastia
>$600,000 lawsuit after taxes/fees
>found out last week 9% of my neo-cortex (part responsible for emotions and critical thinking) is filled with dead cells
never ever fall for the pharmaceutical meme
>>73254178
>mfw I first realized that psychiatrists have no idea how the drugs they prescribe work chemically nor are they required to know
>>73242622
Theres nothing fucking wrong with zoloft. That shit can help you with many problems like premature ejac
>>73253684
>>73254001
I'd trust buproprion/Wellbutrin more than any SSRI any day of the week, however, it is a (very weak) dopaminergic stimulant. For what it's worth, I've used tianeptine and I'd probably choose buproprion over that, but everyone's different.
>>73254346
Suicide
Mass murder
Psychopathy
Those are a few side effects I can think of.
>>73253816
Pretty much, on Zoloft it really feels like your brain is just trying to tell you not to be yourself, and hide the pain away. I remember being off of it for a while, it was definitely refreshing to actually finally be myself again instead of just a dumb shell of myself, so eventually I got off of it and refuse to ever take synthetic mind altering medication. I'd rather feel sad than be unable to feel sad.
I'm also a little more independent off of Zoloft, so that's nice.
I dont take zoloft for long periods of time. I just take half a pill before I had sex and I can actually perform without cumming instantly.
>>73254001
>>73254352
>>73254520
Thanks, so far it's been pretty good.
>>73254346
It's not a matter of "side-effects." It's a hard fact that you took a pill that changed your brain during your key developmental years. I never even smoked weed until well after I was 20 because I knew how important brain development is. You're never going to get that normal brain development back, and you're probably dependent on taking that pill to live. It doesn't even seem like you had a good reason to take it in the first place.
The fact that I'm explaining this to you means there's something wrong here.
>>73253294
I was on seroquil xr or whatever for a week, i was rolling on the floor screaming trying to rip my hair out and couldnt sleep for 1 second. Shit was so fucked up
>>73254868
I seriously don't understand how people can keep taking a drug to get to that point. Giving up your free will like that
>>73254365
>get tits
>turn part braindead
Seems about right.
>>73254760
This. I was given anti-depressants and risperdal at 7 after I started being a little shit and they deduced I just had to have fucking bipolar disorder.
Fucks your shit up for the next 15-20 years mate. Never do it.
>>73255016
Risperdal is fucking evil man. Hope you've recovered from that.
>>73254965
Doc was trying to find something to help with my chronic anxiety and depression and OCD disorder. I take nothing now and am still affected but its better than taking the pharma jew. I do take a pill of zoloft here and there before sex though.
>>73254868
>>73254365
>>73255016
>Taking antipsychotics
>Equating antipsychotics and ads
No wonder you are mentally ill.
>>73254365
I'm impressed that you managed to win a lawsuit. Was it against the maker of the drug or the person who prescribed it? You'd think psychiatry would be a risky business by now considering how many people got their lives ruine
for the average guy on 4chan, (im assuming mostly men, probably 6 ft 180 pounds)
50 mg is a realtively small dose
i was on this shit for 4 years. for a while it makes it hard to piss.
also makes you have to yawn but you can be left unsatisfied with the yawn
Citalopram is way worse than those. I've taken that and Zoloft.
>>73255075
Risperdal is better than Haldol or abilify for me but yeah not something to take longer than absolutely necessary. It really is a chemical straightjacket. Also makes you fat as fuck.
But it didn't make me writhe constantly like Haldol, or pace constantly and go with hardly any sleep for days like abilify.
It was super pure, super strong but super pure. I had a little akathisia and tremors but not like the other two.
When it comes to intermittent insanity lithium is where it's at. Old friends can't even tell I'm on it. I couldn't tell myself that I'm on it except I haven't had a psychotic break since starting. The blood tests are annoying but a psychiatric drug that does what it says it will with miniscule side effects and no change to personality is breddy gud. Plus it's a mineral, not a new drug, and has been used to treat insanity since ancient times.
SUICIDE PILLS!
>>73254365
I did a lot of research before I finally decided I needed Zoloft. I asked for it by name and the dosage (50mg, very mild) which was off putting to most. So I doctor shopped until I got what I wanted. I was also was mostly past the age of mental developments (28yo) so I felt comfortable experimenting.
>>73255216
You don't exactly get a choice of what the medical system forces into you when you're seven, ruskibro.
>>73255075
Not really. I was fat as fuck until about 18 when I stopped taking it and got >>>/fit/, My emotions are really dull and occasionally I get so fucking horny I have to bone something there and then.
>>73255137
>I do take a pill of zoloft here and there before sex though.
for what purpose?
>>73245261
Used to be like you. Used heroin IV from age 18-22, didn't stop until I got a massive infection on my leg that caused me to lose my job, my scholarship, and nearly my leg itself. Not to mention financial and emotional strain. Not to mention the sickness every time I had to go without.
I was always extremely clean and careful as well. Unfortunately for me, I have an ever so slightly underactive immune system that has had me prone to bacterial infections since I was little.
Even if you don't use needless, you're not doing your life any favors. Take it from someone that used to literally rely on heroin for mental coping too. I thought I was so naturally fucked in the head that I was just better off on dope than trying to find a decent medication or healthy way to cope. I don't have that illusion any longer.
Don't go down this road. Honestly getting that horrible infection saved my life. I was too careful and if things went on without immediate consequence in my life I might have just wound up another junky living hand to mouth until my unfortunate demise at the ripe age of fifty five
>>73243237
only the 50 mg are blue pills
they color code zoloft by dosage
im ignorant about pharmaceuticals in general so i dont know if this is usual or not
>>73242972
you do not know your drugs at all
>>73244420
That's it I'm smoking up *lights one while Angry Beavers comes on*
>>73250245
>LSD isn't god-tier
Did your parole officer tell you this?
>>73253389
>ADHD
doesnt exist
or at least not as common as they say it is
just something thats made up or exaggerated for drug dealers to deal Legally. LEE GULL EE
>>73255772
Stops me form premature ejaculating. It has been the only thing on the planet to help fix the problem. And I dont take it enough to where it really effects my brain. It is out of my system after 24 hours. Can kinda suck to sleep though since it gives you insomina depending on when you have sex the day before
>>73242972
please don't listen to this guy regarding drugs jesus christ dude do at least the minimum research
>>73256081
I figured as much. SSRIs do not act that quickly though, any perceived benefit in that regard is purely psychological.
>>73256209
Yeah im not sure why it works but it does. I jumped through hoops to get it but i have about 100 pills and i dont have sex often so when i know im going out i pop one just incase. It takes the edge off like liquor you know?
I'm training in the pharmacy world and the number one thing I'm afraid of is getting robbed by a drug addict. They don't cover that in the books.
>>73253097
Not if you naturally have an imbalance dumbass
It's a lack of chemical in the brain. It's supposed to bring it to normal, the issue is its over prescribed. There are still tons of people who need these drugs.
I think it's a little bit stranger that they throw oxy at you when you get a tooth pulled when all you need is Advil or naprysn. That's how a lot of addicts get started.
It's apathy
>>73256641
>lack of a chemical
You do realize that all anti-depressants are literally just the product of someone going "Hey if we give them this they shut up more", right?
Nobody has a fucking clue how they work mate. The chemical imbalance meme is just a casual observation of Chemical + Brain = Less Noise From Person.
I went off Zoloft cold turkey in January but I was taking it only (1x50mgaday)8 months prior. I got this thing called "brain zaps" for about two weeks.
I was in a dark place and that made me want to not take Zoloft anymore. Death was always on my mind. In my situation, I guess the withdrawal wasn't much but just weird. But I guess if someone taking a higher dose and/or longer term would have worse effects? Or it just depends on the person....I wonder if my Synthroid medication interacted with it....
I-ill get out now
I don't like this boar
>>73250469
>Jew defending the liquid Jew
>>73256599
your employer will likely have their own protocol for that situation. it's usually to just give them what they want.
if you work for an independent pharmacy you may have the option to conceal and carry.
>>73256018
You have no idea what you are talking about if you have never experienced disorganized thinking.
>>73256858
You're wrong. I'm on lithium anyway.
>>73257238
>you're wrong
Prove it.
>>73256858
And depression is very real. What exactly are you implying? You've obviously never known someone with it.
>>73257305
Read a fucking medical journal.
>>73257348
>And depression is very real
I know it is. I had it for 12 years and attempted suicide on 6 different occasions, fuckwit.
>>73257376
Waiting for a source.
>>73249862
Good goy, Keep working.
>>73242622
Zoloft Zombies
>>73256018
nah i definitely have it
it sucks when your ADHD goes from the physical kind to the mental kind
my ADHD used to give me god tier reflexes and I was really good at tennis in high school but as I got older around 18 it switched to the inattentive kind and I went from an A student to a D student
>>73257348
He's implying that SSRIs are a shitty drug and nobody knows how they really work.
the "chemical imbalance" thing isn't proven. there's no blood test you can get to check your brain chemical levels.
SSRIs right now suck dick, 50 years from now when they find out the real actual cause of depression (most likely brain inflammation and hormonal imbalances) the treatment will be a lot better
>>73257466
http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what-causes-depression
>>73257874
The actual cause of depression is that life fucking sucks.
>>73257890
"Rather, depression has many possible causes, including faulty mood regulation by the brain, genetic vulnerability, stressful life events, medications, and medical problems. It’s believed that several of these forces interact to bring on depression."
You also completely misrepresented my argument. I'm not saying Depression isn't real, I'm saying SSRIs are a crock of shit that we've just come to assume work on depressed people.
>>73257874
But isn't the idea that one or many of the chemicals in the brain being either too low or too high as one of the non-environmental causes of the depression the best we have right now?
>>73258096
>the best we have
Do you see surgeons going "Well he's pale and not breathing, and generally the mouth is involved with breathing, so let's cut his mouth open" when someone is unconscious?
>>73258096
I mean, the drugs work, if you want to kill yourself they'll make you not want to kill yourself, but they'll never truly cure anybody with depression
nobody I know with depression who went on meds ever truly got cured or felt happy like they did before their depression
>>73258052
Ok, but why do doctors believe largely that a combination of SSRIs and CBT is the best treatment for depression?
I get that we don't know enough and that psychology isn't an exact science, but there obviously has to be proof that it works for some people.
Like I said, I'm on lithium because the doctor I see now believes I have bi-polar depression and not MDD.
I am still depressed, but I haven't been deeply depressed for a period of 2 or more weeks since I started Lithium.
I used to drop from dysthymia to horrible months long depressive episodes where I couldn't function.
Now I'm just dysthymic and horribly anxious where I can't do much outside of the house and going to work.
>>73258233
The difference is that psychology is not an exact science.
>>73258096
The problem with that is you're trying to fix symptoms instead of the cause. For most people that issue is lack of physical work.
For instance if I don't work 60 hours a week of hard labor I develop severe insomnia (I've gone 4 nights in a row without sleeping). In college I tried different prescriptions which shifted my issues elsewhere depending on the drug (holly fuck stay away from ambien. I lost 3 months of my life to that drug. I was a retarded zombie the entire time). Once I flunked out of college (see ambien) I went back to doing construction 7 days a week and I'm in the best shape of my life physically and mentally
I took Zoloft for a year and have been off of it for about a month. After getting on to it I actually started hating feminism and progressive values after taking it. Is it blue? Literally yes, but after taking it for a while I've been more redpill more than ever
>>73258532
>Ok, but why do doctors believe largely that a combination of SSRIs and CBT is the best treatment for depression?
CBT is an actually decent treatment and in some cases can more or less end depression and anxiety, SSRIs are treated as a general-ish treatment that make the patient give less symptoms of depression.
We're essentially in the middle ages of mental health therapy senpai. In the next 45 years I can imagine we'll have much better treatments that will render shit like SSRIs and CBT completely ineffective.
Hell, SSRIs are only seen as an actual treatment because they make the outward symptoms of depression ease off. From experience (Yes, I was actually on them for years and I know many who have also been on them for years) all that they do is dull your emotions to the point where you're not visibly sad/inactive as fuck. There's still major side-effects such as increased suicidal thoughts and changes in the body that shouldn't be there.
SSRIs are a guess, Depression is real.
>>73258697
That's the exact problem. We're treating a physical illness that can be detected and seen with medical tools with a bunch of refined guesses and Q&A sessions.
>>73242622
fuck zoloft and my parents for falling into this pharmajew trap
had the chance to lose my virginity and i couldnt pitch a tent cause of years of zoloft and adderall
>>73258873
Before I took it I was a "everybody should do what they want!" Libertarian.
After being on it for over a year I'm a Trumpian Nationalist.
I'm told i take it due to my serotonin level
>>73242622
They shouldn't be used on people who are depressed because they experienced trauma etc, they won't do anything, and often lead to symptoms of serotonin syndrome. Subsequently, there are a subset of depressed individuals who a depressed because of a literal chemical imbalance, and SSRI'S can make them feel like a normal person, usually with only minor side affects.
>>73259181
pretty much, I live in a very liberal area and I pretty much said I was a feminist for a long while. Now I'm probably going to vote Trump. Although some of the stuff he said on global warming is kind of dumb.
Is lithium a blue pill? Is it degenerate?
>>73259424
republican vs democrat is essentially meme social issues vs issues that actually matter
who gives a fuck what trump thinks about global warming when he's the only candidate that wants to stop globalism and unrestricted immigraiton
>>73242622
A couple months back I was put on Zoloft. It fucking sucked, I quit that within 4 weeks because I had a hard time getting to sleep and I had no sex drive whatsoever. It was fucking awful.
>>73252808
You're just a fucked up individual. Lexapro does actually help with anxiety
>>73259932
>no sex drive
Shit. No wonder i can't get erections.does zoloft effect my testes?
>>73242972
Heroin and Zoloft have literally nothing in common you fucking moron. First post worst post
>>73260158
No it doesn't I don't think, it just effects your sex drive while you're on it. If I remember correctly doctors don't actually know why.
>>73260322
This. Zoloft sucks but it isn't at all like heroin, that's prescription opioids.
>>73257874
>>73258995
The whole serotonin system, while playing a definite, important role in mood, is far too complex to just throw a "one size fits all" approach at it (which is what is being done with SSRIs right now - they are simply artificially increasing serotonin levels when it's an extremely important neurotransmitter for more than just simple "feels" - hence the side FX)
There are promising studies with NMDA antagonists as occasional, supervised treatment for depression, which will probably end up the next logical step in the process. It's a good thing if you ask me, certainly more promising than SSRIs ever will be.
If you ask me, the real potential in antidepressant drug design lies in highly selective serotonin agonists. No, I'm not saying "hurr durr trip out man" but very selectively downregulating given serotonin receptors - not necessarily the ones that make you trip - will not only affect neurotransmitter levels, but, having the body ignore what may potentially be running hyperactively could hold promise IMO. Given how slow the serotonin system is to up-regulate itself, it would be one pill, once a week.
But, that's just from my own readings. Dafuk do I know. Ooga booga where da white bitches at
People around me pressuring me to try medication is what gave me the drive to get my shit together. Just to avoid it.
