80 Muslim "refugees" were baptized yesterday in a mass baptizing. The priests in Hamburg estimate that thousand more Muslims are searching for "the love of Jesus" and want to be baptized.
The "refugees" come from Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan, all countries where Christians are openly prosecuted and Germany has a "no return" policy for Christians "fleeing" from these countries.
Some "refugees" have stated "We feared Islam. Islam was oppressive. But with Jesus we have found love. Christianity is love and we embrace it.
Isn't this wonderful?
http://www.stern.de/panorama/gesellschaft/massentaufen--fluechtlinge-konvertieren-vom-islam-zum-christentum-6837644.html
>>73197310
That is good, but I wonder what the percentage is between converts and the remaining "ALLAHU AKBAR"s. I suspect the former is a very small percent.
>>73197510
The converts are still "ALLAHU AKBAR"s. They just convert officially so that they can't get send back.
Taqiyya.
>>73197310
I'm still suspicious but it's good if they're legitimately trying to integrate
>>73197642
This.
Christianity is a kike religion, and is the cancer killing /west/
>>73197642
Nonsense, maybe to them this is a new beginning. I doubt anyone with faith would just throw their belief out for money, that is if they are true believers.
>>73197310
I don't care they are still snackbars and don't belong in Europe. Or America.
>>73197912
>implying religion in general isnt cancer
>>73197310
80 out of 2 million?
>>73197310
Taqqiya crap. They have done this for years. Christians are seen as persecuted so they have a much higher chance of getting gibsmedats.
>>73197310
>No return policy
Oh,I wonder if that had anything to do with the whole "converting" thing.
That's wonderful! This is what should be happening: Muslims coming and seeing what great societies Christianity makes.
Sadly instead they come and see what degenerate societies secularism makes
>>73197510
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Google translate:
But Pastor Babajan is not the only hurdle that must be overcome by the baptized when they convert. For those who turn away from Islam, they often have to worry about their safety in Germany. Amir and Mahshad dare to leave the refugee camp only in jogging suits, if they want to visit a Sunday worship service.
"We do as if we go to the gym," says Mahshad. The pretty woman and her husband are afraid of their Muslim roommates. "It has been shown that we can not ourselves in Germany openly profess Christianity. Here the Muslims are stronger than the Christians," she says furiously.
In her home the other Muslim refugees force everyone to pray six times a day to Allah. Anyone who does not do, is being threatened and intimidated. "It is this Islam, that we fled from," said Mahshad. She and her husband had already received death threats. "But complaints do not help. The translator and the guards in our refugee camp are also Muslims. And they cover their friends", the 23-year-old says with resignation.
>>73197310
>Christianity is love and we embrace it.
That's not what they meant by embracing, Achmed.
Anybody have the pic where some muslims say
>We came here to escape Islam
>Now they're bringing these people over
>This is not good
or something a like
>>73197919
Don't you know?
Money is the true god of this world.
>>73198039
>80 out of 2 million?
It is 80 on one day in one city out of 700,000 Muslims that came.
Apparently about 25% of the Muslim that have come to Germany have, are considering or will convert to Christianity, mostly because "they found love and peace with Jesus".
Just hoping for mass riots in few years.
>>73197310
Aren't they allowed to be killed for this?
why do they allow their faces to be shown?
>>73198350
>why do they allow their faces to be shown?
They are true believers. They believe in the love of Jesus Christ and peace and the peace dove and the goodness in the heart. They are true converts, in white shirts and forgiving everyone and have only love in their hearts. They do not want to go back to the oppressive Islam that they fled from.
>>73197912
You tell 'em, neckbeard! Fuck those stupid, hetero, family-oriented, moral, middle-class, law-abiding, generous, compassionate, and generally nice idiots. Right?
Fuckin' kike cancer.
Well, back to our tranny porn.
Just like it is on /pol/, religion is 80% identity and 20% belief. They don't want to be seen as foreigners, abandoning former beliefs is a small price to pay.
Bullshit. More lies so that they can't be deported
>>73198216
Well, 0.01% of the population per day isn't that bad. At that rate it will only take 10,000 of these events. for them all to be baptized. 27 years if you have one of these events every day.
>>73198533
>They don't want to be seen as foreigners, abandoning former beliefs is a small price to pay.
Quite honestly, I think this is good.
Those people are now shaving, dressing properly, going to church every week and not wearing the hijab. What's not to like?
I think it is good that Germany has a policy to not really return those converted Christians but is now ramping up the deporations of all the "Allahu Akbars".
>>73197642
>>73197795
Yeah, I'm sure the Muslim community will totally think they're just faking it. I'm sure ISIS is reading the news and nodding in support. I'm sure these guys won't be harassed by brownskins for the rest of their lives.
Yeah, "taqiyya" is just a word you use to stop thinking critically. Good job. niggers.
Now they will want to kill use in Jesus' name.
Remember kids: Islam is the religion of peace, christians are teh evil.
>>73198602
>Well, 0.01% of the population per day isn't that bad. At that rate it will only take 10,000 of these events. for them all to be baptized. 27 years if you have one of these events every day.
You do realize that Hamburg is just one city in Germany? There are about 40,000 "refugees" in Hamburg. 80 are 0.2%. You need 100 of these events to get 20%. Of the other 80% Allahu Akbars, you deport 2/3rds, then you end up with nearly half Christians, half Muslims.
>>73198136
And this is why you are losing your nation, you are godless following paper money.
>>73198475
I thought that was why most people stay Muslim in the Western world, it is taboo to their family and friends
>>73197310
This is good. Either they should convert to Christianity or deported
>>73198889
Yes, you only need 500 of these events to convert the Muslims in one city. Only two years if you do one every day, assuming no more Muslims come in the next two years.
>>73199007
I'm just stating the obvious.
Besides, rapefugees gonna rapefugee, regardless of the direction they pray.
>>73199175
>This is good. Either they should convert to Christianity or deported
Agreed. Actually, I think Germany should really ramp up the deportations of the Muslims as soon as possible. This will drive a shitload of the non-die hards to find love with Jesus Christ. The conversion takes several months and the priests work with the converts in details, brainwashing them to make sure they truly accept Jesus as their savior.
If Germany were deporting 100,000 this year as originally planned (it looks like it will only be some 40,000 to 50,000) I am sure the convert numbers will skyrocket to anywhere between 50,000 and 100,000 this year alone.
Interesting fact: some satanic groups also do baptizing.
If it's in the name of Jesus, and these people have actually turned form Islam, good on them. I wouldn't trust the story without some more information though.
>>73198090
The only saving grace germany and swedenand any other pussy liberal states can have amidst all this refugee bullshit is that their opressive (not in sjw terms but actually opressive) beliefs will weaken with exposure to western culture. But considering that the muslims huddle together in communities where the imams secretly condone and assist in terrorism and kill anyone who leaves the cult and even the police dont stop them from raping children and the media hide their crimes... Then you realize that these cuckold countries are getting what they deserve
>>73199429
>Besides, rapefugees gonna rapefugee, regardless of the direction they pray.
As a matter of fact, converted Christian refugees or original Christian refugees are known to commit pretty much no crime, especially no sexual crimes.
I am not even kidding. The reason is that those are mostly true believers, they go to church each week and believe in Jesus and his love. Their minds don't even get to the "rape" fantasy part.
Muslims are allowed to do anything to survive.
>>73197310
What does Christianity mean? Expand on this.
>>73198703
t. Ahmed Mohammed
>>73199728
You can dress a monkey like a man, but it's still a monkey.
>>73199590
>>73199728
>>73199175
'Non-whites having 12 children is okay as long as they believe in jeebus!!!!!'
Die cucks
Lovely to see a happy story :)
>>73199659
Google translate:
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Throughout Germany the Christian communities record a large number of converts. Alone in the Persian community in Hamburg already 196 Afghans and Iranians were baptized this year as Pastor Albert Babayan told. Up to 500 it could still be this year, thinks his wife Nasrin. " The motive for the change of faith is the same for many: "they are disappointed by Islam ," says Babayan.
Just as the Iranian Shima. "I've been looking all my life for peace and happiness, but in Islam, I have not found this," says the young woman. " To be a Christian means to me happiness." Also, the young Iranian couple Mehdi and Solmaz found in the Christian religion, what it has missed in Islam long: love. "In Islam, we always lived in fear. Fear of God, fear of sin, fear of punishment ," said Solmaz. "However, Christ is a God of love. "
A convert must, however, prove his faith in front of the local congregation. One baptism in the Christian Persian community requires about several months of faith courses. And this does not mean a guarantee for inclusion in the Christian community. "If I have the impression that someone does not believe from the heart, then I do not baptize him," says Pastor Babajan. "I ask not for memorized Psalms or prayers," he emphasizes. "I ask people how their lives have changed. Because the Christian faith changed the way of thinking, the world view. If someone then told me that at night he can sleep again or an old enemy could forgive, then I know that he has Jesus in his heart, "said the 64-year-old.
"Whoever does not believe that is not baptized"
But there are also many who come to him because they promise higher chances to asylum by a conversion. "There are maybe 20 or 30 percent who really want to hear the gospel. For those who want to have a license, I must show them the door. Often I get angry messages if I refuse someone baptism. But it is very easy for me, whoever does not believe will not be baptized. "
>>73200307
Like you white cracker reproduce, a nation needs people. You guys are on a point where you can no longer reverse the damage, your country will be a nation of shitskins.
>>73200360
>"If I have the impression that someone does not believe from the heart, then I do not baptize him," says Pastor Babajan. "I ask not for memorized Psalms or prayers," he emphasizes. "I ask people how their lives have changed. Because the Christian faith changed the way of thinking, the world view. If someone then told me that at night he can sleep again or an old enemy could forgive, then I know that he has Jesus in his heart, "said the 64-year-old.
>"Whoever does not believe that is not baptized"
>But there are also many who come to him because they promise higher chances to asylum by a conversion. "There are maybe 20 or 30 percent who really want to hear the gospel. For those who want to have a license, I must show them the door. Often I get angry messages if I refuse someone baptism. But it is very easy for me, whoever does not believe will not be baptized. "
>>73200360
>Pastor Albert Babayan told. Up to 500 it could still be this year, thinks his wife Nasrin.
>his wife
>wife
dropped
>>73198069
>Christians are seen as persecuted
Not in modern times. They are demonized beyond belief anymore.
athiesm is better. Christianity is weak and masochistic to the core.
forgive your enemies? fuck that.
>>73200646
Pastors all around the world have wives. Actually you can't become a pastor if you aren't married.
>>73200513
>a nation needs INFINITE POPULATION GROWTH
No, nigger. A nation needs a stable and homogenous population. White birth rates are simply correcting themselves back to pre-baby boom numbers.
>>73197310
These people should be allowed to stay.
Like we have people who come from all over the world. A lot of them are christian.
The problem is that these people genuinely flee oppression. Muslim oppression. Then they come here and not only do they have to live with muslims in the refugee camps and buildings, but realize the country they fled to is being flooded with them. Flooded with the people they escaped.
It's why a lot of christian refugees and even jews vote for SD.
Refugees are not the problem, islam is. We kept them away from europe so long and advanced so far ahead of them people in the modern world don't understand why our ancestors so fervently kept them away, and now they are inviting them in. Sickening.
>>73198477
Progressivism is just an off shoot of christianity.
>>73199007
Says the American capitalist cuck
>>73200894
Agreed, look how shaved they are. They couldn't hurt a fly.
I am honest here, I truly believe Christians like those folks can be honorable members of our society.
>>73198795
Daily reminder that Islam is based and Christ is for betafags
>>73201134
Look, not a single hijab!
>>73197814
This, anyone who says differently is probably as pig headed as a liberal.
Of course they still have to go back when the wars are over, then they can red pill and convert the fucking Islamic nuts left in shitskinistan
>>73197919
Kek. That's what bible thumpers actually believe.
>>73197310
I'm actually ok with this.
Why do you keep putting "refugees" in quotes? No matter what you may think of them they are refugees by definition, fleeing their war torn countries. I'm sure you'd do the same if ISIS was knocking at your door.
>>73197912
Christianity is the religion that unified the West.
Romans forced unification, Greeks forced unification, Christian Empires joined Christian nations together to fight the common shitskin enemy
>>73197310
ape will be ape, no matter if you paint its fur with a cross or a crescent moon.
>>73197310
>what is al-taqiyya
I still wouldn't trust them baptism or not
>>73197310
do you think, listen and hear me out, do you think some of them really realized their home country is a shithole because of Islam and since they are not openly percecuted they can finally let Jesus into their hearts?
I want to believe that at least one of them did it
>>73201434
Newfriend, it's put in quotation marks because many of them pretend to be Syrian, and even if they are not. They are passing SEVERAL safe countries before arriving here. This makes them economic migrants not refugees.
>>73197310
this board memed hard on francis when he said every church takes a family
majority of people from anywhere dont give a fuck about religion.
they do know that this makes them less scary and therefor more [SPOILER]employable by the indigenous population[/SPOILER]
you fucking racists
>>73197310
There is very little difference between Christianity and Islam, it's all based on Judaism mixed with old Pagan religions for easier digestion for masses.
>>73201600
Many of them are Syrian and it makes sense for them to start anew in countries that will actually aid them rather than being homeless in Turkey or some other shit hole. Again, you would do the same in their situation.
>>73202098
If they come to our country for our benefits, that makes them economic migrants, hence the quotation marks. Why are you having trouble with this?
Even if they're pretending to convert, it's a good thing. That's how religions take hold.
First generations convert due to true belief, fear, or political convenience and eventually normalize the faith for others.
You think people converted to Islam out of love?
A splash of water for a lifetime of catering and sympathy from people, who thought having kids to themselves is too much of a hassle, but when they grow older and lonely they quell the need with "social activism".
Pic related approves, this is a good deal.
>>73197310
That is actually a good thing. Christian refugees are universally better behaved than fucking Muslims. Half of it is genetic, but another half of it is their toxic religion.
Christianity is part of European culture, converting to it is a form of assimilation. A small thing, but it's a start.
>>73197310
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Ironside
>They proceeded inland to the town of Luni, but were unable to breach the town walls.
>Hastein sent messengers to the bishop to say that, being deathly ill, he had a deathbed conversion and wished to receive christian sacraments and/or to be buried on consecrated ground within their church.
>He was brought into the chapel with a small honor guard, then surprised the dismayed clerics by leaping from his stretcher.
>The viking party then hacked its way to the town gates, which were promptly opened letting the rest of the army in.
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.
Pretty nice, but it would be best if they chose Catholicism.
Deus vult!
>>73198703
No, even though Taqiyya is a thing, they love having an excuse to kill infidels even more than lying. Seriously these people getting baptized are risking their lives and being anonymous refugees and changing their names and abandoning their families are probably the only way to safely become Christian if they had a change of heart in their home countries.
Also these converts are our best chance to preach to the muslim refugees and lessen the problems they have by instilling western christian values.
>>73198571
Spain has 2 million African Christians.
USA has many more.
Christian religion is the race-mixing church since its beginnings. Christians are the biggest threat to world peace, race purity, happy marriages. Christians are the biggest degenerates, the most corrupt ones. Literally nothing about Christianity is good. Christians destroyed 90% of world's nature. Christianity is at minimum cancer on crack.
>>73201083
>Muh capitulism
lol, do you need your reminder that Communism has collapsed in almost every nation that it is introduced to?
>>73202626
>t. achmed
>>73199590
Christianity should be a prerequisite for staying and there should be a record that they have attended church.
People don't want to convert back to islam after they have seen the light, even if it was at first fake
>>73197310
>we pay you 100€ each to spend an afternoon for our PR campaign
Who cares? They still can't speak the language, they still don't have any relevant skill.
>>73200995
give proof. explain. elaborate. i'm genuinely interested in this idea
>>73201229
But why? the hijab is empowering!
>>73201865
>t
OMG OMG OMG... are you saying, ... Bin Laden was Jesus! He died for our sins?
>>73202882
>They still can't speak the language, they still don't have any relevant skill.
pretty much this, still no reason to keep them around
Claim to be a prosecuted Christian and your asylum application will undoubtedly get accepted.
This is too easy, famalam.
>>73197310
Fucking unreal.
>>73202978
Bin Laden fought for his people, while Germans get race erased for Jesus. Bin Laden was real, Jesus is an cuck excuse.
>>73197310
>>73197795
>>73197310
Most likely Druze. Druze are fucking cool and integrate.
>>73197310
>2016
>/POL/ STILL THINKS THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM AND NOT THE ARAB SHITSKINS
>WAKE UP FAGGOT
>>73197310
Most muslim countries issue the death penalty to people who commit apostasy, i.e. leave Islam. These people can't be send back because that would put them in danger. Those "converts" were most likely never very religious in the first place or will continue praying to Allah behind closed doors.
Many male """"refugees"""" also try to pull the "I was drafted for the army but refused" card because desertion is also severely punished.
>>73202768
Not achmed. Converts to Christ from Islam are our greatest weapon. They hate Islam even more than all these memeheads around here.
>>73203403
>muh integration
Christian scum.
>>73197310
They're still sandniggers
>>73203403
Fuck off, rabbi.
Yeah lets trust the guys who rape children like going out to dinner.
>>73203488
They aren't actual converts, you utter dipshit.
>>73200726
Uhh, go to Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and RED PILL even Israel where Arab Christians are fighting back against the kike menace.
>>73200585
Thats racis!
>>73203518
Druze are pretty white for middle easterners and it is their culture to fit in wherever they go.
>>73197310
>>73203459
Even if they are crypto-muslims their children will have a good chance of being christian, they will have to act christian and will eventually decide its easier to actually be Christian.
This is what Islamic Armenians are like in Turkey, and what happened to the Moors in Spain.
>>73203756
...Did I NOT just tell you to fuck off, Rabbi?
>>73197310
Jesus doesn't have a temporary ban on Christians
They are welcome
Force-convert them all and then serve them bacon
>>73197310
Muslims (and kikes) always lie to the kufar (goyim).
>>73200585
The best part comes after that.
>"About ten percent of our converts were deported"
>>73203518
Being white isn't a race. I don't care about white or black, i don't hate other races, i just don't want to mix with them and i want them to stay in their homes and sort their shit there. Migrants should be exterminated, from white to black, doesn't matter what religion. They are all cowards and thieves who move and destroy other lands, then they move again. People should work on their homeland, not escape shit they created.
>>73202943
There's a lot of commonalities. Not fedora ones: human egalitarianism, castigation of nonbelievers,
idolizing of victim status, etc..
Basically, we only see progressivism/secular humanism in currently/formerly christian countries. Japan and korea don't have progressivism beyond what was imposed upon by the united states.
You see liberals glorify institutions like the university and what they believe is the consensus view of academics. Well, what are the origins of the university? To train the leaders of the church before the invention of mass media.
The modern progressives are just the secular inheritors of the old clerical belief system and structure.
>>73203668
To convert away from Islam is a life threatening ordeal. It has a much higher chance of being real than someone converting to Islam for this reason. People who convert to Christ in Europe get attacked by machetes all the time.
This is especially effective if the conversion is public.
>>73203982
This, why is this so hard to understand for some people? It is your DUTY to stay in and live in the country God intended for your forefathers.
CHRISTIANITY IS WHIIIIIIITE
>>73203837
Or they will grow up in ghettos resenting their white oppressors, because lefties push racial tensions, and their weak parents for embracing the faith of the infidels, before reverting back to their real faith in the nearby Wahhabi mosque funded by the Saudis (by proxy of the US).
![2000px-Germanborders.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Z9GIWVH.png "2000px-Germanborders.svg[1].png")
Shamelessly /r/ing this with Pepe overlaid.
>>73204258
Or you don't try at all.
If you don't get rid of the leftists either way there is no way to win.
Conversion is a weapon against the leftists.
>>73204160
They ruin and steal, rob home country, they blame native country, they move to other country, they feel ok in foreign country, until all is robbed/stolen and crime rises, then they move and again they blame country. History repeats and repeats and will repeat until we remove every migrant, especially economic migrants. We have those Hollywood actors and politicians with their shit speeches how they love migrants, since they don't have to live there, they got their special oases and escape routes, which is the major part of cause for every war in existence. People who ruin and steal should be punished, not allowed to escape.
>Pastor
That's unfortunate. Protestantism is too flimsy and won't be able to manage to keep them for long.
>>73204483
You can't get the Islam out of them, you fucking shill. If they had actually obtained citizenship in a legal and non-desperate way, I would trust their conversion, but this is so obviously fake.
There are literally written guides that circulate amongst people in the 3rd world, especially in Muslim countries, stating what you can do to get asylum with heavy focus on lying your way in, the soldier story, as I mentioned before, being a quite popular method. It's an industry in itself, and even though it sometimes does help people who are legitimately decent persons, it's fucking Europe over in the long run.
>>73199175
If the conversion is a political move rather than personally motivated, it's pointless.
>>73205354
Like in Turkey recently, or the entire middle east, where almost all conversions to Islam were politically motivated?
Or in Medieval Spain, where most conversions to Christianity were politically motivated? Or Scandanavia where the kings politically converted in order to have greater contact and alliances with the Christian world?
>>73199748
Not quite. They're allowed to do anything to ensure Islam survives. Big difference. Understanding the enemy is as crucial as ever.
>>73205354
No, it is not. You convert. You stop praying to Allah and stop wearing the hijab. Your kid goes to church with you. Eh voila, you are a Christian and 100% integrated into German society.
You stay a Muslim, you are not integrated at all and we got a problem.
>>73205805
Only if they actually believed Islam in the first place. The Islamic world appears so fervent because the have to be at the risk of death. There are many more doubters than the stats suggest.
It'll be great if it was a requirement to convert from Islam if they wanted to be refugees.
>>73197310
A lost chance to drown the shitskins.
>>73205990
Yeah and even in the USA they would be racially integrated into society. Middle Easterners were considered as white as Italians and Greeks in the US until this "Brown People" racebaiting shit happened recently. This is why everyone pretty much considers Christian Lebanese white people and not "brown people" when they have the same skin tone but have an uncouth unshaven appearance and act islamic and crap.
>>73201434
https://youtu.be/ZV315xqbRK8
>>73201865
who even gets baptized like this?
evangelicas?
>>73207094
baptists
