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>JUST

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/was-jesus-gay-702
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>linking vice
Consider suicide.
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>>73139283
Fuck off Sadiq.
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Do they have to ruin fucking everything? Also this is the publication Gavin mcinnes founded. How do you go from hyper leftist to alt-right irl shitposter?
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>>73139181

Vice needs to be memed out of existence.
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>>73139387
>linking vice
Consider suicide.
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>Vice

All vices in life are sins
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>>73139181
>as a straight jew
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>>73139543
If Im correct, he was never a leftist. Vice turned leftist and kicked him out or something
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After the Supreme Court's historic ruling on gay marriage, it seemed like all the proudly homophobic Christians came out of the woodwork to talk about how much they still hate gay people. As a straight Jew, the homophobia amongst Jesus's followers has always struck me as a bit of a surprise: Worshipping at the feet of a ripped, hung man, seems at least a little homoerotic. But it's Jesus himself who lights up my gaydar like a Christmas tree. He's a skinny young otter-like guy, flocked by a mess of dudes, telling everyone to love and care about each other, who later gets the shit beaten out of him by a bunch of closed-minded conservatives who are terrified of change.

As it turns out, this is not a unique theory. Dr. Reverend Bob Shore-Goss, an openly gay senior pastor, has written several books on the subject, including Queering Christ and Jesus ACTED UP: A Gay and Lesbian Manifesto. He holds a doctorate degree in Comparative Religion from Harvard, and he serves on the National Advisory Board of the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies in Religion. Oh, and he believes that Jesus was gay. I got in touch with Reverend Goss, who laid out the Biblical evidence and explained how his theory plays out.


VICE: Was Jesus Christ gay?
Bob Shore-Goss: I would hope he is. I would project that he is. For my own spirituality, I would love to jump into bed with Jesus. At the very least, Jesus was queer. That is to say: He broke the rules of his culture, of heteronormativity. He subverted masculinities and gender codes in his culture. Queer doesn't necessarily mean sexual orientation, but it can include that. St. Paul, I would say, would probably be described as a closeted homosexual today, but they didn't have those words at the time.
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>>73140041
>Jews own LGBT degeneracy lock stock and barrel
>acknowledging this is antisemitic
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>>73139181
he was an SJW bitch, so maybe
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>>73140063
Well good thing he left. VICE is cancer
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Vice has only ever had a couple of really interesting documentaries, the rest of their stuff always kind of sucked.

>>73140275
>As a straight Jew
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>>73140275
>this level of blasphemy
Even if you are a Christian you should agree that this is pretty damn blasphemous to Christians.
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>Mary Magdalene confirmed for fag hag
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>>73140275
nothing has ever made me as mad as this has.
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>>73140275
I'm not even Christian and this offends me
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>>73141141
This. Fag v-day changed me
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>>73141141
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>>73140041

Wew
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>>73140041
>worshipping at the feet of a ripped, hung man, seems at least a little homoerotic
>straight
sure you are
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>>73139181
Want to bet the author of the article is gay?
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>>73140275
>For my own spirituality, I would love to jump into bed with Jesus. At the very least, Jesus was queer. That is to say: He broke the rules of his culture, of heteronormativity. He subverted masculinities and gender codes in his culture. Queer doesn't necessarily mean sexual orientation, but it can include that. St. Paul, I would say, would probably be described as a closeted homosexual today, but they didn't have those words at the time
I would kill this man if I ever saw him in person
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Wow, vice just hit a new low.

They are treading in some fucked up territory now.
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>>73142214
"As a straight Jew" is in the first paragraph
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>>73139181
Fuck these guys
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>>73142295
Oh, I believe that one.
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>>73139181
>Suzdaltsev
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>>73139181
Kek, christcucks btfo
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How was homosexuality perceived in Jesus's time?
There was no concept of sexual orientation, but there was a concept of gender. So, in the Bible, when a man sleeps with another man like with a woman, it's an abomination. See, the emphasis is on a man betraying his status: He has feminized himself. So it's a gender violation as opposed to a sexual violation. The code of masculinity is very strong in the ancient world. Now, homoerotic relationships in the ancient world are really common, especially in the Greek and Roman worlds.

Does Jesus himself ever address that?
As a matter of a fact, one of Jesus's miracles is the healing the Centurion's boy. It's in Matthew and Luke. Matthew uses the word "pais"—you get the word pederasty from it, it means youth—to describe this boy, who is essentially a concubine to the Centurian. It's an erotic relationship. He comes to Jesus and asks for his boy to be healed. And Jesus asks if he should heal him, and he says, "I'm not worthy that you should come under my roof, but say the world and my boy will be healed." Jesus says about the faith of the Centurion, who is in a homoerotic relationship, that "there is no greater faith that I've encountered in Israel."

What's great about that is that every time you go to communion on Sunday, millions of Catholics say, "Lord, I'm not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed." They're uttering this homoerotic phrase that was uttered by a Centurion in an actual homosexual relationship with a youth. We've just sanitized that and forgotten those sort of things in the meantime. But a church of the second century would understand that this is a homosexual relationship and it wasn't a big deal.
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>>73139387
Seriously, kill yourself or use archive.is you canuck faggot.
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How do Christians who support homosexuality reconcile that with scriptures like 1 Corinthians 6:9?
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>>73139181

>vice
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>>73140041
>jew hating christians
>this is okay
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But if Jesus was gay, and he was perfect, then really it's only the gay people that are going to heaven, right? That's so deliciously ironic.
You know, I think there's a greater picture about how universal Jesus is. Jesus had sexuality. I used to think that everything about Jesus was perfect. Then in my first year of school, I was reading a book by John A.T. Robinson, an Anglican bishop and New Testament scholar, The Human Face of God, and there was a little footnote there that really disturbed me. It said that Jesus farted. And I said, "Oh my god!" And then I thought, Well, OK. He was human. And that led to, "If he was also human, did he have an erection at night? Did he have a nocturnal emission? All males experience that." So that was kind of an eroding of my sort of Catholic fundamentals around Jesus. And I went the next step by saying, "Was Jesus sexual?" And then, "With whom?" Then I thought, "Does it really matter?" And I think it does.

If Jesus was fully human, he must have been fully erotic. That would mean that sexuality was a positive thing, because we need to reclaim the fact that sexuality is a great and good thing, whatever sexuality that you are. So, you see where I'm coming from? I want to say that all sexualities are an original blessing because we're made in the image of God.

What I'm getting from this the most is that Jesus, as a queer human individual, could at least relate to the struggle of gay men—feeling like outcasts, having violence perpetrated on them for their queerness, whatever it may be.
Yeah, I'd say that you're absolutely on solid ground with your statement.

Even if Jesus wasn't gay, I imagine he'd certainly feel more kinship with the minority of homosexuals than the heteronormative Christians who preach hate.
It's funny, because fundamentalists go back and misread these things and get hysterical about it because they do not understand the historical context. COMMENT TOO LONG

Was Jesus a top or a bottom?
Versatile.
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>>73142292
You sound like a Muslim.
THEY INSULT OUR SKY JEW! KILL THEM ALLAHU AKBA- I mean Deus Vult!
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>>73142707
>But a church of the second century would understand that this is a homosexual relationship and it wasn't a big deal
Actually it was, hence the "I am unworthy" part. The Centurion was ashamed of that aspect about him plowing tight slave boipucci.
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>>73140275
Not even edgy atheists are this bad. Is this what it feels like to get triggered?
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>>73139283
this swede's got it
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>>73143065
This is written by a mentally ill person.
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>>73139387
>>73139181
a fucking leek
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Let me pass on a redpill to you guys that someone gave me.

If the article headline is a question, they don't actually answer the question.

No need to thank me.
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>>73139181
clickbait and you idiots are giving them ad monies
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>>73139181
Friendly reminder
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>>73142707
> this is a homosexual relationship and it wasn't a big deal
I'm sure you understand this, but I think it's important to say that this was not what the modern world considers a 'normal homosexual relationship', as in a monogamous pseudo family-unit of two willing adults. Homosexuality was common, but it was considered extremely shameful and unmanly to be on the receiving end of the relationship.

So a man fucking a little boy is fine by the standards of antiquity. But I think they'd be appalled at the idea of integrating gay families into their social structure.
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>>73144446
Good redpill.
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First I was aroused,
Then I was annoyed,
Then I was angered,
But I let my anger pass
And it became compassion;
Now I am at peace.

Christians aren't going to see this article, much less read it.

The LGBT and progressives will read it.
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Kek, this is great, so many mad christians
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>>73140275
What the fuck even is life anymore?

I normally rag on religion but this is some straight up fucking blasphemy.
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>>73139181
Jesus may not have been gay, but his followers today sure are.

What happened to the guys like Charles Coughlin, Hillaire Belloc, TS Eliot? The church used to be a shitlord institution, now its full of foot kissing cucks like Francis.
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>>73140275
This is why I believe in Satan and in turn why I believe in God. How bizarre is it that finding Satan led me to God?
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>>73140041
>that summary of Roman religious attitudes

I'm unable to even type his sentence in to summarize it. I will bet anything this guy is a "Durr it already happened so why do it mattur?"
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>>73144830
Oh, you don't want to read the rest of it. If it wasn't a vice article, I would think it's high quality bait with all its misinterpretation of the bible, history, and even common sense.
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>>73139181
Hmmmmmmmm
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>>73145054
What do you expect from these idiots. Joseph was the original cuckold, either to God (unlikely), or to some random shitskin, and then Mary made up the impregnated by God bit.
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>>73139181
This doesn't bother me. God told us there would be persecution, and well, here it is.
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>>73139181
I actually approve of this article.

Like most of you, I initially recoiled in disgust. But this might be just what we need: to let the Left make more enemies. The farther they push themselves to the extreme, the easier it will be for normal people to recognize their bullshit.
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>>73144243
(((Mentally ill person)))
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>>73139543
Gavin McInnes disavowed.
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>>73146296
Sure, as long as you are vocal and coherent in your refutation. Articles like this are an opportunity, not a victory.
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>>73140275
I legitimately doubt you would go to hell for beating the absolute shit out of the guy who wrote this article.

Somebody is defaming the son of god and insulting his name. Love or no love, I guarantee you Jesus is looking down in fury and wishing he had Zeus-bolts or something to throw down and smite this cunt.

>Tfw he dies and Jesus meets him in heaven
>Gives him a tour of the entire place and shows the guy all his family that he has lost over his life
>Fill the guy with the utmost joy somebody can feel
>Immidiately tell him he isn't getting any of this because of he insulted the messiah to such a level and tried to spread this hatred
>Kick him down to hell where he is fucked by skinny hung men for all eternity with thorn-crowns on their dicks
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>>73140275
>I would hope he is. I would project that he is. For my own spirituality, I would love to jump into bed with Jesus. At the very least, Jesus was queer.
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>>73139463
Lmao
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>>73143065

Agree with you all the way. There is no bound to Love, in a life lived through it.

Do not hate the majority, try to reach a state of being that does not hate anything. It is not possible, it is an ideal; but we may always choose to strive for it.

Non-violence is an ideal.

Jesus is a symbol of non-violence, the result of infinite Love.
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> Jules Suzdaltsez
> Bob Shore-Goss
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Holy fuck, I'm atheist and this rustles my jimmies. I'm sorry, Christbros.
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>>73139181
VICE confirmed going to hell

The Bible says "don't talk shit about God", they fucked up
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>>73139181
Things like this are why Gavin left.
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>>73142823
They ignore it
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>>73145054
>Can you believe this foot kissing cuck
Do not lump all Christians in with the feckless weakling cucks that unjustifiably call themselves one.
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>>73139181
>Jews slandering Jesus
What a shocker
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>>73140041
pure coincidence.
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>>73148847

He doesnt wait for you to go hell, he will punish you for this, doesnt need followers to do it.
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>>73140041
>Romans
>Homophobic
what the fuck am I reading?
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>>73151633
>Romans killed Jesus because they thought he was a homosexual
>It definitely wasn't the Jews because they are of the devil
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>>73139283
FPBP
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hi i'm gay and what is this bullshit
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